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Date Posted: 07:32:21 01/25/10 Mon
Author: Joel to Dave
Subject: Re: Joel Avoids Fight/Luke Later Paddled
In reply to: Dave to Luke & Joel 's message, "Re: Joel Avoids Fight/Luke Later Paddled" on 17:22:21 01/24/10 Sun

Dave,
I guess like you getting a flu shot and still getting the flu this season didn't help you, and I've found the same for me. I've had the flu since late Saturday afternoon, and haven't gotten any better. Like you, been in bed and close to the bathroom.
Hasn't helped so I guess a visit to the doctors is next in line this morning for me, so no school for me today and if I get better I can attend the hoop game Tuesday but I won't be allowed to play missing practice today as a school rule, but could sit the bench to cheer the team on.
That is, if some members will accept my cheers. Over the weekend got a few calls from suppose to be some of my team mates and complaints, not Kyle, Sean or Luke, who said I didn't do my part Friday night to win the game. Had no complaint from Coach in having an off-night, and I felt fine playing, just couldn't get the ball to fall in the hoop. Besides it takes a team working together to win a game, not just one person to look to.

Then I have to get the flu and can't shake it. I guess that's my punishment for the way things have been going for me. A WAKE UP CALL TO JOEL, FROM GOD!

But now about your message. I see I have SCREWED UP AGAIN!

Don't blame you one bit to be mad at me and if I were you I'd want to write me off to!
I'd like to find words to explain things, probably say the wrong things, but will give it a shot, and hope you can understand what I'm trying to say, even with the flu it makes a person not feel good and try to help find right words to say.

Let me explain more about the incident at McDonalds. That took place away from the area where our Coaches were at eating. They were in the main dining room, and most of the team was there, all except me, Luke and few others who took up dining (don't laugh) in the enclosed PLayland area as there was no more room for us to be with rest of the team because of other dining room patrons, so with that it made a perfect situation for that dude from the winning other team we played to confront me,try to make me say I was a less of a basketball player then I was and get Luke going to want to get me to fight him when he saw I wouldn't do it on my own.
Once that dude tried to get me going, he tried to get Luke to get me going and that's what Luke did. I'm surprised Luke didn't try to take him on when I didn't and he commented later he wanted to seeing how I wouldn't even after I told him it wouldn't have accomplished anything. That would have been a mistake to fight that dude, me or Luke and I wouldn't have let that happened and didn't.
Guess we should have got up and walked away from the jerk, but didn't and wanted to have some pride and show we were not scared of him, and didn't want to fight!

From your comments, are you saying we should have went to Coach and told him what happened right then and there, even if the dude was still in McDonalds?
Maybe we should have, but wouldn't it have looked like two "little boys" going to tell on him to get him in trouble for something we couldn't handle, and tought we had?

As for giving Luke the paddling later on, I thought I was doing the right thing, as "big brother" to teach him a lesson. At first Luke wasn't agreeing it was the right thing to do, but he said it was later on and glad I cared enough to do it to make him think twice not to put me or him in a sitaution like that again.
So instead I should have went to Coach and told him what Luke did to try to get me to fight the other player, is that what your saying I should have done? I thought I was helping Luke as a friend and team mate, and thought he would think twice NOT to want to do again what he did? If I went to Coach, was you hoping then Coach would have benched Luke, kicked him off the team or paddled him for punishment, from what I read in your message?

Didn't Rick ever give you a paddling when you did something wrong that he knew you did, instead of telling your dad to give you a paddling instead, that Rick thought he could teach you a lesson and give you a less severe one as a brother to help teach you?

I'm sorry Dave, I shouldn't be judging you and asking you such a question, when you are trying to help me see things through and how wrong I am. doing things I have.
I thought I was helping Luke, like a brother, to give him the paddling and hope he would see what he did wrong in egging on that player to want to fight me and egg me on to fight the player. I guess I shouldn't have then?

Dave, I don't think your a hard ass at all to care about me.
The way lately I have been doing stupid things, I can't imagine what you saw in me earlier, wanting to call me a "little brother" of yours, etc. I don't even deserve that now, and in the future.

I wouldn't blame you one bit to write me off as a person. I don't deserve to be called a friend, buddy or "Little Brother" of yours now.
When that happens I will, however, have some great memories of you as a person I have come to know, learned to respect, and was proud to call you a friend, buddy and "Big Brother" to me, especially a brother to make up for one I never had in life. Yes, there's Kyle, but you and I have more close personality & interests, for the reason I really thought you as one-a BROTHER to me!

I really appreciate you helping me over the last few months in life, helping me find myself and pushing me to have more courage then I've ever had in life to accomplish a few things that WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED I believe, and for one getting myself to get my dad to give me my first paddling in life! You helped me get that, when nobody else did before now. That was something Kyle could never motivate me to do. Thanks, Dave.
The way things have been going for me, I know your saying you should have never helped me. I wouldn't blame you one bit you thinking such things, "What did I ever see in this guy to want to help him in life, who seem to act more like an immature kid, then a responsible mature l7 yr. old, who wants to achieve great things in life?"
Other things have happened since then, and some of them you've listed in your message that have ballooned out of control, and wondered why and what the answer is to why they've happened?
I've wondered myself now to. I didn't realize it was happening, if you can believe that. I guess too many things came at one time for me to realize to separate them.
There is no excuse for my actions.
In other words, I haven't been FOCUSED like I should be as a person, and trained as an athlete, but been blind in my eyes to not see what was happening with me and my friends. I guess with what's been going on I don't even have the right to call them buddies.
They haven't paid close attention either to see what fools I have been and them!
I realize NOW I've been a fool! I would like to change that, and would like to know how to change that. For a guy who's been around I should be smart and have the answers. But lately I haven't been a smart guy, and I guess I'll have to do some soul searching to discover the answers before something serious happens to me that I will regret for the rest of my life.
I have no right to ask you to forgive me for what kind of person I have been lately, Dave.
I have not only disappointed YOU, but disappointed myself, and will try to figure out how to turn things around.
I never realized over the past month I was engaged in "play these one-up games to see which one can out do the other."
I'm not trying to make excuses, but I guess it happened because I've become a stupid teenager without realizing it happened and I helped caused it.
Because I did it, I've embarrassed you because you know me, and that is wrong for you to have to be embarrassed because of me!
I guess there's no way I can make things up to you, try to make you proud of me again, because I'm not worth it NOW!
I know you are an adult, older then me, but I've NEVER thought of you like that. I can't find the right words, I guess to say, so I guess I will say I will always cherish you as a "brother" I never had.
So I don't embarrass you anymore, and you don't have to say you ever knew me, I guess I should be the one to say "adios, dude!"
I didn't mean to write a "masterpiece" here. I hope you won't be dissapointed in me again.
Oh, I do want to say one thing, I sure hope you and Mollie have a great married life, and when you have kids, make sure they don't ever turn out like me, but ones you can be proud of!

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Re: Joel Avoids Fight/Luke Later Paddled -- Dave to Joel, 18:24:35 01/25/10 Mon
- Re: Joel Avoids Fight/Luke Later Paddled -- Joel to Dave, 07:11:03 01/31/10 Sun