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Subject: Re: Spanking a bare bottom in front of the family

Author: John

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 22:51:56 05/11/12 Fri In reply to: Lynne 's message, "Spanking a bare bottom in front of the family" on 15:26:43 04/25/12 Wed When I got spanked bare it was always in private. But I will always remember one of the worst spankings I ever saw when I was 7. I spent the night at a friend's house. He was also 7 and had a 9-year-old sister. In the morning he and his sister were jumping on a bed, which evidently was a big no-no in their house. Their mom came storming in and yelled at them to get undressed. They started crying and begging not to get spanked but she wasn't listening. Both of them took off their pajamas and underwear. They were then told to come downstairs. Their mom was waiting with a belt. She spanked them in a way I haven't seen before or since. They had to stand in front of her with their hands on their heads, and she whipped them hard with the belt from head to toe! They were completely naked and those whippings seemed to last several minutes. They both had red welts everywhere. I'm glad I didn't get spanked like that. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Author: Jill (Oh vey) [ Edit | View ]

Date Posted: 21:14:07 08/21/12 Tue That was a really sad story you told about the two kids. I have mixed views on corporal punishment, because my household was so divided. My mother was young, and creative and really progressive and didn't believe in spanking, she believed in talking and psychology, and I didn't have disciplinary problems with her really. My father on the other hand was raised extremely strictly, and religiously. he was a much older man than my mother, and believed in a good old-fashioned southern style whipping. So I've been treated two different kinds of ways. I personally want to be more like my mother if I ever become a parent, I don't want to use my hands to get the child under control, I want to be more inventive then that, I have some issues with just bullying a kid into submission. But I'm realistic though, in an emotional and difficult situation you don't know what you might end up doing-- it doesn't make you bad or abusive parent if you used spanking necessarily. But NOT THIS that you witnessed, that was really wrong. First, what they were being beaten for was an extreme reaction. Because they jumped on the bed? I jumped on a bed once, it was a fun-looking bed in a hotel. My mother told me not to jump... and I got down end of story, I never jumped on a bed again. You shouldn't ever just WANT to beat your child down, waiting for the first opportunity, tearing into the rooms with your veins bulging. It was such a small thing, and to hear you describe how scared those kids were I am sure that they would have complied if caught, she really did not have to hit them, she WANTED to. We should all try to look for the most painless methods to solve a conflict if we can. As oppose to launching with everything you've got. If someone steps on your feet, should your first reaction be to blow them away with a machine gun. Second this was a beating, a mean beating, not a spanking. Having them strip down nude is TOTALLY abusive sexually, you should never force a child to get fully naked head to toe and walk around with their hands on their heads so you can punish them. That was sadistic, this lady sounds like a horrible and cruel woman. And consider the ages of these children too. Only seven and nine? For the reasons I said this wouldn't be fair to do to a teenage child, but children that little? Hitting them as hard as she can from HEAD TO TOE, and letting it go on for minute on minute. That is child abuse in today's standards. She shouldn't have been able to keep her kids.

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Author: rdh333 [ Edit | View ]

Date Posted: 00:04:25 08/27/12 Mon >That was a really sad story you told about the two >kids. I have mixed views on corporal punishment, >because my household was so divided. My mother was >young, and creative and really progressive and didn't >believe in spanking, she believed in talking and >psychology, and I didn't have disciplinary problems >with her really. My father on the other hand was >raised extremely strictly, and religiously. he was a >much older man than my mother, and believed in a good >old-fashioned southern style whipping. So I've been >treated two different kinds of ways. I personally want >to be more like my mother if I ever become a parent, I >don't want to use my hands to get the child under >control, I want to be more inventive then that, I have >some issues with just bullying a kid into submission. >But I'm realistic though, in an emotional and >difficult situation you don't know what you might end >up doing-- it doesn't make you bad or abusive parent >if you used spanking necessarily. But NOT THIS that >you witnessed, that was really wrong. First, what they >were being beaten for was an extreme reaction. Because >they jumped on the bed? I jumped on a bed once, it was >a fun-looking bed in a hotel. My mother told me not to >jump... and I got down end of story, I never jumped on >a bed again. You shouldn't ever just WANT to beat your >child down, waiting for the first opportunity, tearing >into the rooms with your veins bulging. It was such a >small thing, and to hear you describe how scared those >kids were I am sure that they would have complied if >caught, she really did not have to hit them, she >WANTED to. We should all try to look for the most >painless methods to solve a conflict if we can. As >oppose to launching with everything you've got. If >someone steps on your feet, should your first reaction >be to blow them away with a machine gun. Second this >was a beating, a mean beating, not a spanking. Having >them strip down nude is TOTALLY abusive sexually, you >should never force a child to get fully naked head to >toe and walk around with their hands on their heads so >you can punish them. That was sadistic, this lady >sounds like a horrible and cruel woman. And consider >the ages of these children too. Only seven and nine? >For the reasons I said this wouldn't be fair to do to >a teenage child, but children that little? Hitting >them as hard as she can from HEAD TO TOE, and letting >it go on for minute on minute. That is child abuse in >today's standards. She shouldn't have been able to >keep her kids. While I agree with you that jumping on the bed was not reason enough for their punishment, I don't agree with most of the rest of what you said. Children need to be made to mind. They need to be punished when they do not mind. I was a very stubborn child. But my mom was very stubborn too! I was punished harder and harder, until I finally learned to mind. What "broke my spirit", and made me learn to behave: after spanking me or whipping me many other ways, when nothing else worked, my mom would go pick out a good switch, strip me naked, and soundly whip me. It was horrible! Really terrible. But, if I wanted to avoid getting whipped, then I should behave. It took a few bare naked whipppings to learn this, but I was so afraid of this punishment that I would do anything, (or NOT do anything) to avoid a switch whipping. After finding out what worked, from then on, anything I did that was seriously wrong resulted in my mom stomping out the back door to get a switch. (she didn't believe in making me get my own....she wanted to make sure it was a good one!) It only took a couple of minutes to go from "arguing with mom", to being stripped bare naked, regardless of who else was there, and very soundly whipped. I learned to behave! One episode that really stands out: I wanted to build a tree fort, and start out by nailing some boards to a tree in the back yard, to make a "ladder". My mom told me no. I kept arguing with her, but she kept saying no. So, very foolishly, I blurted out that I was going to just do it anyway. "OK. Well, let me go get a switch" she replied! "Oh no! What have I done" I thought. I immediately tried to back down....that tree fort wasn't that important...but it was too late. Even though I didn't nail boards to the tree, just mouthing off to my mother and refusing to obey her had earned me a whipping, all for so little reason. I tried and tried to talk her out of it----I hadn't done anything! But to no avail. My mother came in holding a big switch, that branched out into about a dozen smaller branches....god that was going to hurt! She very calmly told me that I was going to be whipped for talking back to her, and for insisting that I was going to do something that I was told not to do. Seconds later, I'm naked, bent over the table, and that god awful switch was crashing down on my butt and legs. All for nothing....well, "nothing" but deliberately defying my mother. I never did that again--telling her right to her face that I wasn't going to mind! I got whipped many, many more times growing up, always naked, almost always with the switch...but never again for something so stupid as open defiance. I was expected to do what I was told, and not do anything that I was told not to do. As simple as that. If I disobeyed, mom got a switch, and ordered me to strip naked. I learned to associate misbehaving with getting whipped. Whippings were awful....misbehaving was awful. I tried really, really hard to always obey my mother after that! There is no punishment that compares to getting a whipping. None. That is punishment! The switch? Just a very effective, and very convenient, tool to carry out the discipline. I got whipped with belts, wooden spoons, and other things....but nothing was as terrifying as the switch. Naked? Yes. Every time. As much as I hated it, I actually agree with it. Even then, when I was getting whipped, that made sense. 1. The punishment hurt so much worse on bare skin. 2. I deserve to be embarrassed that I needed to be whipped. 3. Humliated/humbled? The humiliation was a big part of the punishment. Being humbled? No longer the defiant, misbehaving child....I was much more humble when I knew I was about to get whipped. God I hated the saying "too big for your britches". That meant that you were about to get your britches taken off, and soundly whipped, to put you in your place and make you mind. 4. Accepting your punishment, and submitting. Submission was very important. It would be one thing if someone just grabbed a stick or belt and started hitting you....but that is not the way it happened. I was made to undress. I was made to bend over. I was made to stay still, and keep quiet. As I was taking off my pants, I was agreeing that I needed to be whipped. When I pulled down my underwear, I was agreeing that it was time. I was accepting my punishment. If I didn't cooperate completely in taking a whipping, I would be whipped again. I learned to submit. I learned to obey. Just the fact that someone could suddenly order me to remove all of my clothes was pretty overwhelming! Knowing further that once I was naked, I had to accept a severe whipping....that was really difficult. But, if I didn't cooperate fully, I got whipped again. I was a junior in high school, and I got into trouble. I hadn't been whipped in quite a while, and I was hoping that it had been decided that "I was too old". Well, my mom ordered me to strip naked, and she went out to get a switch. I wasn't sure that she would make me strip---I hadn't done anything that bad, so I had trouble deciding what to do. If I didn't strip naked, she would be mad, and whip me harder. But if I did strip naked, it would hurt so much worse. Well, as she was marching up the stairs to my room, switch in hand, she yelled "you better be naked!". I just froze: I sooooo didn't want to be whipped naked, but I was very afraid of not minding my mom. Before I really decided anything, she came to the top of the stairs, turned and entered my room. And, she was carrying a switch. She screamed at me, "why aren't you naked!". But instead of making me strip, she whipped me really, really hard, with my clothes on. Jeans or no jeans, a severe whipping really hurt. But, the worst was yet to come. "That whipping was for not stripping naked like you were told. Now, you are going to be whipped for what you did wrong in the first place---AFTER YOU STRIP NAKED. RIGHT NOW! YOU'VE GOT 10 SECONDS...." So, I tried to undress as fast as I could, got a few lashes in the process, and then, finally naked, I got a really bad whipping. At least it was over, right? Oh no! One more thing: "When I tell you to strip naked for a whipping, you had better do so. You've been whipped once for what you did wrong, and whipped another time for not obeying me when told to strip. But you still need to be stripped naked and whipped with a switch, and fully cooperate. So, we will wait 2 days for the welts to heal, and then we will try again. You will submit and cooperate to a completely naked whipping, or this punishmment is not over. I hated getting whipped, but the switch taught me to mind. Having a mother who wouldn't hesitate to strip me naked and whip me made me mind. I'm glad that I learned to obey. Being so well disciplined has helped me greatly since then. I learned the hard way, but I learned!

[> [> Subject: Re: Spanking a bare bottom in front of the family

Author: Max [ Edit | View ]

Date Posted: 09:09:50 08/28/13 Wed It is really cgild abuse,and I agree with Jill,she should never could keep her kids It isn't even spanking or discipline but beating,they're lucky if they have never had broken bones or more dangerous injuries. If thyey had this for only bounding on bed,I wonder what she did when they've caught,for exemple,smoking or drinking... Well,I hope,it's jume some sort of extremely weird fantasy...