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Subject: Hohoho


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David
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Date Posted: 04/18/02 9:29pm
In reply to: Wade A. Tisthammer 's message, "Ha ha." on 04/18/02 1:29pm

"1. If God exists, then he exists necessarily.
2. It is possible for God to exist.
If these two premises are correct, then the statement “God necessarily exists,” must be true."

Hmm so then back to George.

1. If George exists he exists necessarily (because the definition of george is "a being named george who, if he exists, exists necessarily")
2. It is possible for George to exist.

George necessarily exists.

Therefore anything that, if it exists, would exist necessarily, exists.

>>It’s the greatest possible from of existence because
>> the existence is possible in all possible worlds.

So by greatest do you mean "best" or "biggest"? The problem is you'll have to show that anything other than an abstract concept can exist in all possible universes.

>>Quite correct. The easiest way I can think of to show
>>that is to provide examples. An example of a
>>necessary truth would be 2 + 2 = 4 or the law of
>>noncontradiction (this law states that for any
>>specified proposition p, it is impossible for both p
>>and not p to be true; e.g. it is impossible for me to
>>exist and to not exist at the same time). Both of these
>>things are true in all possible worlds. There isn't any
>>possible world in which these things don't hold true.

Playing devils advocate: so what makes us think these laws are true in all possible worlds?

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