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Subject: There's a first!

Author:
Biff

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Date Posted: 12/30/10 2:36pm
In reply to: Damoclese 's message, "I dunno bout that..." on 09/23/10 6:19pm

>
>>..... Probably only outsiders can tell and compare.
>>But in the meantime all of us got older and a change
>>of views is probably normal/possible with open-minded
>>people who keep learning as long as they live.

Actually, I've found that the older people get, the more set in their ways they become. Several studies have indicated that by the time a person reaches adulthood, they've made up their mind about their worldview, conciously or not, and are very unlikely to change it. I would suggest that your point is still valid as most people do not make the effort to continue to learn and explore throughout their lives.

>Science is nice. So is logic. I think I worked it a
>little too hard before without understanding its
>weaknesses fully. I certainly didn't understand the
>extent to which emotions play into most people's
>beliefs--logic based or otherwise....

>People supposing
>they have "the answers" on the pride of a conversion
>experience and reading a book tend to annoy me.

Annoyance is an emotion.

>Spirituality need not be tethered to a predominately
>Christian view either. I think on some level this was
>my original problem with the whole thing. Christianity
>becomes very narrow-minded on average once it attains
>what it believes to be "the answers".

But here's the thing, Damo (can I call you Damo?): Christianity does not own the monopoly on narrowmindedness. Every world view claims to have the answers. That's the underlying purpose behind world views, to provide answers to the "big" questions. Not to get personal, but I would submit that you have been every bit as narrow-minded as any Christian who has been a part of the core group of debaters here.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the discussions that took place here. But a couple of things frustrated me to no end (there's the emotion again). One was the continual implication that the naturalist argument comes from a more solid premise by claiming to be the only one based on observable evidence. The naturalist vs. design argument is not one of evidence vs. lack of. It is of the evidence and how it is interpreted, and it is of how the gaps are filled in.

After
>awhile, I dare say everyone who seeks spiritually or
>otherwise simply finds more and more questions.

Indeed, there will always be more questions. No world view can legitimately claim to have the answers to everything, spiritual or otherwise.

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Different backgrounds, information,filters	QUITTNER	01/11/11 11:00am

Whateva	Damoclese	01/25/11 10:53pm