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Subject: I doubt it.


Author:
Wade A. Tisthammer
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Date Posted: 10/31/04 12:19pm
In reply to: QUITTNER 's message, "Re: Ancient Egyptian beliefs were incorporated into Christianity" on 10/18/04 11:28am

>Wade A. Tisthammer, you wrote in part: >>> Massey is
>hopelessly outdated. <<<
>..... Then so are ALL the scriptures, including the OT
>and NT. God is not dead and keps communicating with
>people even if clergy did not give God prior
>permission to do that. Such more recent communications
>from God must NOT be ignored. They are NOT outdated.
>..... Do read the latest book by professor and priest
>Tom Harpur "The Pagan Christ....", and see what he
>thinks about Horus, Isis and Osiris and about people
>who were/are able to read the Egyptians' writings.

Those kinds have claims have already been discredited. Note that the sources he uses he calls "Egyptologists" (as Kuhn, Massey and Higgins) but he doesn't use any contemporary Egyptologist, nor recognized academic authority on world religions, nor does he appeal to any of the standard reference books (e.g. Oxford Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt) nor does Harpur refer to any primary sources.

Alvin Boyd Kuhn is especially prominent for Harpur, saying that he is one of the single greatest geniuses of the twentieth century, and that ""Kuhn has more to offer the Church....than John Spong, C. S. Lewis, Joseph Campbell or Matthew Fox." And Harpur is puzzled by the silence the scholars have received Kuhn's work. Perhaps I can shed some light on the matter. It turns out that Kuhn was a high school English teacher. To his credit, he earned his Ph.D. from Columbia University by writing a dissertation on Theosophy. But his only other connection with higher learning is a job as a secretary to the president of a small college. Additionally, all his works are self-published. One scholar described Kuhn's work as "fringe nonsense."

The reason why I said much of the material was "hopelessly outdated" was because deciphering the symbols was still being finalized, and the vast majority of first-hand accounts was not yet translated.

One reason why claims like Harpur's are so discredited is because some of them are just outright falsehoods. For instance, there is no evidence for the idea that Horus was virgin born, nor is there any evidence for the idea that Horus was 'a fisher of men' nor is there any evidence that his followers were ever 12 in number.

The real story on Horus? Check out this web page.

Again, mainstream scholarship has discredited the Christ-myth view, fringe groups notwithstanding.

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