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Subject: Welcome back Kemosabe

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Wade A. Tisthammer

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Date Posted: 07/15/04 9:31pm
In reply to: Damoclese 's message, "Damoclese rides again" on 07/14/04 8:04pm

>>
>>True, but ID doesn't look nearly as implausible to me
>>as an orange instantly turning into an ape.
>
>It ought to, though.

Funny, creationists have said similar things about evolution.

>>That's a bit open to debate. Note, for instance, the
>>apparently dismal track record regarding fossils and
>>human evolution.
>
>It's only "dismal" to creationists. Everyone else is
>impressed

Impressed? Why be impressed that they've had so many failures with would-be intermediates?

>>We can tell if something is designed even if we don't
>>know by whom.
>
>No we can't.

Okay, suppose we find an obelisk on the moon of Jupiter just like the one that was in 2001: A Space Odyssey. Suppose the obelisk is clearly inscribed with, "This thing is designed, in case you couldn't tell already." Yes, we can tell if it was designed. Archaeologists can also rationally infer design even if they don't know who made it (beyond the fact that they're humans) or why.

>Snow flakes look designed.

Not to me they don't.

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Subject	Author	Date
Design?	Damoclese	07/16/04 8:18am
Disputable points -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 08/12/04 5:38pm