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Subject: I suppose I mean it more in a figurative way

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Damoclese

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Date Posted: 10/ 1/04 1:15pm
In reply to: Duane 's message, "Depends..." on 09/30/04 10:25pm

>
>Now, if by chaos you mean a system without ANY rules,
>not even low-level, primitive ones, first off, I think
>you'd be hard-pressed to find such a system. I think
>we'd need to identify an example of one before we
>could talk about THAT situation.

Yeah, this is more what I meant. In an abstract way where no rules are present, is it possible that at least localized rules can arise? (By localized I mean to say that chaos in the long term is without rules, but comes to certain "equilibrium points" now and again where certain short term rules apply before returning to a disorganized state)

I guess an example of a "pure" chaotic system might be something like quantum virtual particles churning about. There are probabilities here that can be expected to be met, (in some ways anyway) but this is about as close of an example I could think of in the actual universe. (I'm not sure one can regard a probability as a "rule" as probability really translates into "most likely, but not necessarily")

My hope was to argue it from a more abstract standpoint, and then see where we land.

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