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Subject: You are being by far too complex Wade...

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Don

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Date Posted: 01/28/04 8:16am
In reply to: Wade A. Tisthammer 's message, "Not so simply resolved." on 01/ 9/04 10:52pm

You are being by far too complex Wade...

As I understand it you are talking set theory--- the set of all even
numbers has no end because we can always add an other number
according to they system of math. Using this system not even god can
say what is the set of all even numbers, for he could always add an
other number, so god would never be able to answer---what is the set
of all even numbers.

Can you break this system of math> NO. But understand it is a human
system. 1+1=2 is true to �day� and not for the past or the future--for
it takes a human mind to understand it, we can not bring back the past
nor can we call tomorrow to day.--- Language is an other human
system based on assumptions only with great ambiguity.

All -- the only means we have to understand something---systems are
built on assumptions. Mental concepts whose grass roots are
�assumptions�. That is why you will never be able to show or prove
your godless god. For it is an assumption.

You will always be faced with what started time, and where did god
come from and expanding a human system that has it grass roots in
assumptions will never cut the mustard so to speak.

I can show the definition of a god �being all Knowing� as bogus---for if
he used the system of math he could always add --one more number--
to the set of all even numbers hence never come to the end---unless
he limits himself.

That is all I need to show is the concept of a god not being all knowing
and I can do that by using a human system--the system of math.

Is there something beyond human systems? We don�t know for we
need a system to understand it. That is how we are hard wired and
how the mind works--even your so called �revelations from the
spirit�-- what language did the spirit speak to you in? There you go
human systems.

Humans I can show in real time and real life---the many gods well they
are all godless, all born of virgins, all knowing in fantasy, and they all
come and go--- but for now humans are still here.

Your god is a claim Wade, a concept---a human system. Suppose we
see a worm that digs a hole in the ground that looks like this
�0�---does that mean the worm has the concept of zero and
understands math? NO we are applying a human system to natural
events-- that is what you are doing with your god concept. Mixing your
systems and applying human thought. That is the only place your god
exist is in the mind of man--- and when man is gone so will your be
your god thoughts so enjoy them while you can. Just know you are
playing with a human system.

Don

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Subject	Author	Date
A compendium of refutations	Damoclese	03/21/04 10:17am

Geeze...	Wade A. Tisthammer	03/22/04 10:57am