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Ben
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Date Posted: 03/ 2/04 7:34am
In reply to:
Wade A. Tisthammer
's message, "Infinity began?" on 02/27/04 10:45pm
>Well, the reason that wouldn't work is that the
>past, since it is infinite, has no beginning.
>Shandy was never born, he was always writing. An
>infinite past can't have a beginning. If it did,
>(along with other problems) it would never get to the
>present. (Confer what I said about Shandy being
>infinitely far behind.)
This is precisely why all of us objected to this from the very first post. When taken to its logical conclusion, it is clearly a ridiculous idea. You have created a world where people don't need to be born... they just always exist, which is, ironically, an idea you constantly fight against on this board. You are probably this board's biggest proponent of the idea that everything has to have a first cause. Then you want us to go along with you on a journey where your lead character _doesn't_ have a first cause.
Sure, if you change the rules of how the universe works, you can make anything into a paradox. As most of us have said from the beginning, maybe you have created a paradox within this little box of yours, but it is not a useful paradox in any sense related to reality.
For the record, I don't have a problem with the idea that time could be in a loop, which would create a sense of infinity, but even in such a loop, people would still have birthdays unless the universe were changed on some core level. If you can tell me this guy's birthday, I can solve your "paradox." If he has always existed, then you started your entire argument with infinity as your base, and then tried to put time-oriented things like "a year ago" into it, which of course won't work.
It may help to remember that time is just a human measurement technique that really only works here on earth. If we traveled at light speed a lot, we'd need a whole new way of measuring time. Because of the relavite nature of time, it's easy for it to appear paradoxical fairly easily on paper.
Ben
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