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Subject: nature and justice

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Primordial
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Date Posted: 03/ 3/02 4:52pm
In reply to: Damoclese 's message, "liberty and justice" on 03/ 3/02 9:23am

>I wouldn't go so far as to call nature itself "just".
>For instance, perhaps the scenario is that one man has
>a loaf of bread that he himself intends to consume.
>However, there are other men out there equally as
>hungry, so one of them snatches the loaf of bread, and
>eats it. Meanwhile, the guy who originally had the
>loaf of bread dies. Is that justice? I'd say it isn't.
>Nature is neither just nor injust, it just is.

I would argue that you brought in the idea of conventional law to govern this "nature-like" anology. You ask, "Is that justice?" But justice from what point of view? That this person with the bread will now die?

What do you think about the appeal to a natural law, above a civil law, to justify the murder of abortion clinic workers/doctors?

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Natural Laws Damoclese 03/ 3/02 6:00pm

and these words on natural law...... -- Primordial, 03/ 4/02 8:51pm

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>>I wouldn't go so far as to call nature itself "just". >>For instance, perhaps the scenario is that one man has >>a loaf of bread that he himself intends to consume. >>However, there are other men out there equally as >>hungry, so one of them snatches the loaf of bread, and >>eats it. Meanwhile, the guy who originally had the >>loaf of bread dies. Is that justice? I'd say it isn't. >>Nature is neither just nor injust, it just is. > > > I would argue that you brought in the idea of >conventional law to govern this "nature-like" anology. >You ask, "Is that justice?" But justice from what >point of view? That this person with the bread will >now die? > > What do you think about the appeal to a natural >law, above a civil law, to justify the murder of >abortion clinic workers/doctors?

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