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Subject: Yes they are.

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Damoclese

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Date Posted: 02/26/04 1:48pm
In reply to: BTL 's message, "Answer" on 02/26/04 11:13am

>They are NOT ex post facto in nature as you put it.
>They are fact not interpretation. They are subjects
>which dont require interpretation they are
>historically correct. Ask anyone at the History Museum
>in London UK.

I'm not debating that the events occured. I'm saying that since we KNOW those events occured, and pretty much HOW those events occured, it's very easy to glance through the Bible and pick any verses that even vaguely support that event happening.

The real question for any of those prophecies is this: "If we had been alive when the prophecy was made, would we have understood it to be predictive of event x?" If the answer is no, as I suspect is almost always the case, then we must be extremely careful about picking out verses in the Bible that seem tangetially related and saying AH HA! Here is the prophecy. (because now that the event has happened we know what to look for)

>
>Would you deny what happened in New York 9/11? Its all
>history. People may describe there experiences of it
>in different ways but we all know that it tragically
>happened, it was not ex post facto in nature was it?.

It is now.

>
>The mote and rivers quote doesnt make sense to
>me..explain please.

This is the verse according to the NIV that your article uses as proof positive that there was a prophecy about drying up a moat-river whatever that means.

who says to the watery deep, 'Be dry,
and I will dry up your streams,'

It's just out in the middle of nowhere. It doesn't say anything about moats. It's super vague.

>
>The article I handed you was but just a few examples
>of prophecey in the Bible. Did you read it word for
>word, may I ask?

Yeah I read it. It's pretty propaganda laiden. See my above moat example.

Did you bother to check to make sure the versus your article uses as proof indeed constitute proof?

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Subject	Author	Date
Prophecy	BTL	02/26/04 4:21pm
Why don't you quote the verses? -- Damoclese, 02/26/04 6:40pm