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Subject: Did what? Author: Wade A. Tisthammer [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 03/13/04 2:18pm In reply to: Damoclese 's message, "Yes you did." on 03/13/04 2:01pm >>>> >>>>I don't believe it is because I don't believe an >>>>infinite past is feasible. >> >>I didn't say otherwise. > >I asked why you thought making a beginningless task >was feasible. You replied because you don't think an >infinite past is feasible. Correct. >My original question: > > "Do you really think constructing a task with no >beginning (that an immortal human does no less) seems >like something that OUGHT to necessarily be the case >with what in reality we consider the past?" > >It's clear your reasoning is either circular How is it circular? >, or you >are equating a beginningless task with an infinite >past. Neither. I do not equate a beginningless task with an infinite past. A beginningless task does, I think (in the Tristram Shandy paradox) pose a problem against the rationality and feasibility of an infinite past. But I discuss this on another thread. We should talk about it there. >>>"Craig further points out that the picture Russell >>>paints entails a beginningless task. That is, if one >>>were to ask "Where in the temporal series of events >>>are the days recorded by Tristram Shandy at any given >>>point?" then, according to Craig, one could only >>>answer that the days are infinitely distant from the >>>present" >> >>How is this "important"? > > >Because it is only true in reference to a >beginningless task. (as the quote shows) >>Yes, so how is that relevant? > >Because if that contigency rests on the basis of a >beginningless task, then calling into doubt the >logically impossible idea of a "beginningless task" >will throw into doubt and possibly refute the rest. I don't think so. Go back to my argument in the other thread where I explain this sort of thing. >>>An infinite past doesn't imply a beginningless human >>>task. >> >>I didn't say otherwise. Maybe you should look at my >>argument >>again, and if you think you've found why a premise >>fails, let's discuss it in that thread. > >Even if it were the case the past was infinite, >postulating a beginningless human task is absurd. About as absurd as an infinite past. Again, go back to my argument and we'll discuss its soundness there (don't forget to attack a specific premise). [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date I don't think so. Damoclese 03/13/04 3:09pm I do. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 03/13/04 4:21pm Go to it then -- Damoclese, 03/13/04 7:30pm