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Subject: Non-being is the lowest form of being, not the greatest. Author: Wade A. Tisthammer [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 03/15/04 8:05pm In reply to: Damoclese 's message, "It's there" on 03/15/04 4:50pm >> >>So if God is greater than nothing, God has to be >>non-existent? Again, that's a non sequitur. >>It seems clear that to have the greatest state of >>being would not be non-being. > >It seems that way, but I have non-being defined as the >null state of being. Hence, not being is simply a >subset of being, it's just zero being. Okay... >Therefore, if god is the greatest being, he must also >have the greatest null being, that being zero, or >non-being. Again, that does not logically follow. The greatest form of being is not non-being. Non-being is the lowest state of being. God (or anything else) being greater than nothing does not imply nonexistence. If it did, none of us would be here. If anything, God being the greatest being would imply having the greatest form of being, not the greatest form of non-being. And non-being would be the lowest state of being, not the greatest. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date er damoclese 03/15/04 9:27pm Err -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 03/15/04 10:38pm A kingdom for a set -- Damoclese, 03/16/04 7:31am Lack of coherency. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 03/17/04 3:26pm The un cola -- Damoclese, 03/17/04 7:30pm The un cola -- Damoclese, 03/17/04 7:31pm 7up. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 03/18/04 9:47am Blinded by the light -- Damoclese, 03/18/04 1:43pm Blinded by overzealous emotion. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 03/19/04 10:09am This is how it seems to me -- Ben, 03/19/04 11:18am You're right you ragamuffin -- Damoclese, 03/19/04 12:56pm Logic terminology. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 03/20/04 1:09pm Strongly doesn't equally emotionally -- Damoclese, 03/19/04 12:52pm But strongly emotional does. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 03/20/04 1:34pm I guess you even know what I'm thinking -- Damoclese, 03/20/04 6:54pm Not necessarily. -- Wade A. Tisthammer, 03/20/04 9:56pm