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Subject: don’t ask a man, ask only the gods. Author: Don [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 12/18/01 8:10pm In reply to: Mredd 's message, "Who can it be now? (If you have to ask, you're too young to remember)" on 12/18/01 9:43am What threat could one itinerate preacher in a forsaken corner of Judea have been to the Roman Empire? Precious little if any. -------------------- Hi Mredd, Perhaps a little history....Israel was not in a corner... it is a land bridge to the far east. Statically located as the land was fought over for many thousands of years. Trade, riches and wealth could be transported faster “and safer” by boat back to Rome and ships never went any where empty....Rome survived and became great because no province could be so stupid as to not see the greatness of Rome...They were right, the best of the best for the time. Get a map and look at it...you will see I am right. Also when you are looking at history and the Jews...Do not confuse the original Jews --children from Abraham...from the north eastern European Jews---whites--that were converted to the Jewish religion. It is these Jews that are responsible for the Jewish state that is to days Israel--- not the children of Israel..... Many people saw what man can achieve in the Roman culture.. the best of the times back then---The chidden of Israel had a major problem with it...they were very backward and Rome wanted to move forward so fighting was the given. Think of the location like a road map around the Mediterranean you go right back to Rome. You start with trinkets as you sail east and a little north from Rome-- stopping in Israel for food, trade, and supplies as any of the hundreds of major ports --down to Egypt then head west and south a little ...stop at North Africa and then turn North back to Rome with a boat load of Gold (and good looking ladies)...This was just too good to pass up....Israel was very valuable to complete the loop so to speak. Rome offered much to the people ---protection and stability and leanings of all kinds and trade....Israel was stuck on religion as Roman tried to teach other wise, “using other gods”...and so Rome fell.... not because of out side influence but because the Romans gave up on what made them great in the first place, from Civilized to Barbaric, and what was left?---religion....... The same conquest was repeated as the years of “colonization” not that long ago...so came about the USA and freedom of religion....Now let people fight over it at their will and with just laws of behavior perhaps the playing field is level?.... it takes the wind out of the many religious sails....or perhaps this country will again be as others that have risen only to be defeated into religion...in the name of “common religious sense” and we will become as Rome. Less than a thumbnail of history.....but for sure Israel was not in a far corner. The people became known for their violence, protesting... and social disruption...so they made the front page news back in the time of Rome and so they do to day....Hardly a peaceful religion and hardly a people of peace.....does war make sense?----don’t ask a man, ask only the gods. Don [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]