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Subject: Any ideas what this year's hot media savvy crowning will be looking for? Last year was diversity. What will this year be looking for?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:55:26 04/23/14 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I don't think diversity was the mandate last year, it just kind of happened. There were years, particularly 2002 when Erika Harold won, where they spoke openly about diversity. That year was not only racially diverse, you had learning disabilities, deaf, mental health issues, and very few just strong contestants. There were a lot of "stories" that year. (NT) -- No name, 10:16:38 04/23/14 Wed "Stories" still help in the win (sigh) (NT) -- No name, 11:06:05 04/23/14 Wed You can thank reality TV for that. I know someone that auditioned for American Idol. She was told she had a fantastic voice and they wanted to put her through. However, they wouldn't because she didn't have a story. She was told that straightforward. (NT) -- No name, 11:29:37 04/23/14 Wed Or so she says. Look, every girl has a story. We ALL have a story. Some are more compelling than others. None guarantee a win (NT) -- No name, 14:47:50 04/23/14 Wed If stories always won then Alexis Wineman would have won 2013 and this past year Iowa would have won. Stories get ratings and garner interest but they don't win. Nina's "story" wasn't any different than CA's or DC's. Mallory didn't have a unique or particularly moving story, the small town girl moves to the big city with a dream made for a nice anecdote after she won but I doubt it was a factor in her win. Every girl has a gimmick that the MAO can use after her win to garner publicity. (NT) -- No name, 15:16:02 04/23/14 Wed Nobody said stories ALWAYS win. The point is that they can most certainly help a contestant to do better than she otherwise would and in some cases, can help a girl win. (NT) -- Nothing ALWAYS wins it for a girl. But certain things can help., 17:03:30 04/23/14 Wed I can't think of a winner since Heather Whitestone who had an extra compelling story. Stories get you attention but that isn't the same as winning. (NT) -- No name, 17:09:52 04/23/14 Wed

Subject: 'People' article about Laura's wedding, with photos
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 06:43:16 04/10/14 Thu http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20805090,00.html I have to say, despite my doubts, these two look deliriously happy. All the best to them. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Thanks--this was a good article. I think they look happy, hopefully it stays that way. (NT) -- No name, 21:47:21 04/10/14 Thu Congrats to them and wishes for a long and happy marriage (but he gives me the creeps). (NT) -- No name, 05:21:56 04/11/14 Fri Well, it's not likely to be long relatively, but I hope it is happy. Many women are attracted to money and power. I was once, myself (former state). But sometimes wears thin quite quickly. I think she has just been swept up. He is probably a very interesting guy for a young woman from Wisconsin. (NT) -- No name, 12:39:15 04/14/14 Mon How do you have any idea how long their marriage will last? I sincerely hope it lasts a lifetime. Mine has lasted over 40 years, and we are still going strong. (NT) -- No name, 17:47:05 04/18/14 Fri I think the poster is referring to the age difference and the fact that he'll likely die much sooner than she will. (NT) -- No name, 13:04:38 04/19/14 Sat He's 40 something. He could easily live another 40 years. What about 40 years isn't "long"? (NT) -- No name, 14:18:03 04/19/14 Sat That's probably why they said "relatively". (NT) -- No name, 16:22:25 04/19/14 Sat Relative to what though? Most marriages don't last 40 years, so whether it said "relative" or not, it doesn't make any sense (NT) -- No name, 16:36:21 04/19/14 Sat Oh good god, relative to couples who celebrate 50th anniversaries etc and grow old together. Does it really require that much explanation? (NT) -- No name, 16:51:33 04/19/14 Sat Considering those couples are in the minority, yes. You don't pick out a minority group and make everyone else relative to them. That just doesn't make logical sense (NT) -- No name, 17:31:23 04/19/14 Sat I know I'll probably get harped on for saying this, but the whole thing weirds me out. He's old enough to be her father. She was born the year he married his first wife. Plus, he's just kind of a skeezy dude. It all screams "daddy issues". (NT) -- Obviously, it's her choice (since I'm surs someone will point that out), but it's weird., 14:00:10 04/20/14 Sun If you understand love, there's nothing weird about it (NT) -- No name, 15:18:12 04/21/14 Mon Riiiight... (NT) -- No name, 17:51:35 04/21/14 Mon Your immaturity is showing (NT) -- No name, 15:01:51 04/22/14 Tue Riiiight... (NT) -- No name, 16:07:49 04/22/14 Tue Different poster. I agree with the first poster. Let me guess, another "riiiight"? (NT) -- No name, 14:48:55 04/23/14 Wed No, because "riiiight" wouldn't actually be a response that would fit this statement. I mean, I could certainly type it, but it wouldn't fit. A more appropriate response would be an eye roll, but you can't type that. So just take this as a verbal eye roll. (NT) -- No name, 17:01:08 04/23/14 Wed

Subject: DWTS fans
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:07:29 04/14/14 Mon It hit me tonight--Candace Cameron Bure reminds me of Kayla Martell. Anyone else see it? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I think she looks like Gretchen Carlson with darker hair. The smile, nose and eyes!!! (NT) -- No name, 05:07:36 04/23/14 Wed

Subject: Opened up my web browswer to this story. Front page news: http://news.msn.com/offbeat/teen-suspended-for-asking-miss-america-to-prom
Author: wonder how many Miss Americas in past 5 years were that accessible, approachable AND appealing [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:59:14 04/18/14 Fri [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I'd be surprised if there was a single Miss America who didn't get a prom invite. It's only news because he got suspended. (NT) -- No name, 20:38:51 04/18/14 Fri I would say that every single one of the last 5 Miss America's were accessible, approachable, and appealing enough for a highschool kid looking for a laugh to invite to prom. Obviously she wasn't too accessible if the kid was suspended. I don't think this had anything to do with Nina personally, sounds like a class clown who would have pulled this same stunt whether it had been Nina or any of our past titleholders or even a Miss State or Miss USA. He'd planned it before she ever even visited. (NT) -- No name, 13:09:42 04/19/14 Sat I just don't understand what's wrong with this. Kids ask celebrities these things all the time. Why are people making a federal case out of it? What exaclty did he disrupt? It's not like he interrupted her, jumped on stage to serenade her, and did jumping jacks for cheap laughs. He asked her question, like everyone else. His was more personal (NT) -- No name, 14:17:08 04/19/14 Sat The article stated he walked on stage during the assembly. (NT) -- No name, 16:20:53 04/19/14 Sat No, it doesn't. It says he asked her, then walked TO THE STAGE to hand her a flower. It makes no mention of him being on stage nor does it say how this was a disruption of the assembly (NT) -- No name, 16:40:11 04/19/14 Sat I think it's pretty obvious how it was disruptive. Can you imagine trying to get a bunch of teenagers quiet and attentive after that? The school has specifically asked him not to do it and he did anyway, that alone is disruptive. (NT) -- No name, 16:49:36 04/19/14 Sat It was a Q&A session. Anyone could have asked something that would have had the same result of people getting distracted. It's not like he interrupted her speech (NT) -- No name, 17:30:13 04/19/14 Sat He got out of his seat and walked to the stage. He had already been asked not to. Doing something they had asked him not to do is automatically disruptive. I think the main point is that they'd already told him not to. (NT) -- No name, 18:10:26 04/19/14 Sat It's stupid that he was asked not to, frankly (NT) -- No name, 19:54:34 04/19/14 Sat This is what is wrong with the younger generations today. They do not and will not follow authorities instructions. You may NOT agree with what you are told to do, but the PRINCIPAL said DO NOT DO IT and he chose to do it anyway. There are consequences for his actions. He was trying to he a hotshot in front of the school. I agree 100% with the school. (NT) -- No name, 07:50:13 04/20/14 Sun I don't think it's stupid to ask him not to stand up during an assembly and take away the focus of whatever Nina was discussing, STEM most likely and put the focus on himself. (NT) -- No name, 08:53:02 04/20/14 Sun He didn't interrupt Nina. This was during a Q&A where students were asking her all sorts of stuff (NT) -- No name, 10:06:12 04/20/14 Sun The point is he was told NOT to ask during the school assembly as it would disruptive and he ignored the school admin and did so anyway. Thus he is now facing the consequences for his actions. As he should be. Apparently he does not respect authority and has no boundaries. It's quite obvious he has had no discipline at Home and I commend the school for Instilling some. (NT) -- No name, 11:30:07 04/20/14 Sun Yup. Any kid who misbehaves does so because they had no discipline at home. I'm very envious of you raising perfect children and/or being a perfect child yourself (NT) -- No name, 13:20:28 04/20/14 Sun Lol. My kids are not perfect but I can promise you this much - I would stand behind the principal who issued this disciplinary action of this where my son and I Found out he disobeyed the principal to NOT disrupt an assembly. This will impact college applications and scholarships. These children learn that this behavior is acceptable from SOMEWHERE. Possibly parents who stand behind them saying "oh my gosh it was cute for goodness sake aren't you overreacting?" And demanding punishments NOT be applied to their child! Children are behaving more and more in an entitled spoiled and demanding behavior and attitude. And a line must be drawn and consequences must be laid down for actions. (NT) -- No name, 13:37:14 04/20/14 Sun If your son's not perfect, then it's because you must have stood behind him and excused his behavior. I mean, that's where he learns that stuff, right? (NT) -- No name, 13:55:05 04/20/14 Sun NP here- give it up already. You're not proving the point you think you're proving. (NT) -- No name, 14:09:31 04/20/14 Sun I think part of this debate is that times have changed. There's a lot of fear out there, even (sometimes especially) in schools. Who knows whether the MAO office is putting the fear of God into the handlers about potential risks to Miss America. Particularly since this one's year started in a flurry of racial negativity. They're not the most graceful communicators, to say the least. (NT) -- No name, 14:21:45 04/20/14 Sun I don't think that has anything to do with what's going on here (NT) -- No name, 17:07:05 04/20/14 Sun Also a different poster, but I think that poster proved their point well. It's a shame that people take a kid's behavior and blame the parent for it (NT) -- No name, 17:06:39 04/20/14 Sun Honey - no Kid is perfect. But if this had been my son, which FYI it was not, I would stand by the principal's decision and sweetie pie there would also be repercussions at home. Loss of privileges ect. So no you have not proven anything. And while we are on this subject MY kids would NOT have disobeyed the principal. The end. So you trying to turn this around to be about me is pointless. (NT) -- No name, 17:22:32 04/20/14 Sun Not the poster you're talking to, but I think their point flew right over your head. No one said that your kids would do this. The point was that a kid being a jerk isn't always the fault of the parent (NT) -- No name, 15:16:37 04/21/14 Mon Well, to answer your question--we know how she feels about being asked about a boyfriend, so I'm sure she wasn't too pleased with this. However, I think it was the school's call for a suspension. I don't think she's approachable at all. Mallory and Teresa, IMO, were the most approachable. Laura was very nice but classy, and Caressa was "friendly" but sorry, not appealing. (NT) -- No name, 16:56:00 04/19/14 Sat plus 1 (NT) -- No name, 05:08:50 04/20/14 Sun Actually I read that she laughed it off and upon hearing that he was going to be suspended sent a letter to school asking them to reconsider. Maybe she's had a change of heart about these sorts of questions. (NT) -- No name, 07:16:27 04/20/14 Sun More likely, it's just PR (NT) -- No name, 10:08:26 04/20/14 Sun I can't find a link, but they showed a video of him doing it on TV. Seemed to be camera phone footage by fellow student. He stood up, started to ask, was instructed to top by the staff, then proceeded to ask and approach the stage. (NT) -- Anyone find a link?, 08:16:59 04/21/14 Mon A few posts beneath here. (NT) -- No name, 09:01:22 04/21/14 Mon I don't see where he was instructed to stop by staff (NT) -- No name, 15:20:54 04/21/14 Mon

Subject: Mallory looks HOT!
Author: click in for link [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 00:01:44 04/11/14 Fri http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/mallory-hagan-attends-the-zooey-deschanel-for-tommy-news-photo/483709883 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Yes, she does! I LOVE the dress. I love florals. (NT) -- No name, 08:15:40 04/11/14 Fri I hate florals on anyone except little girls. Mallory does look a little heavy, but no more so than when she gave up her crown IMO (NT) -- No name, 07:44:14 04/12/14 Sat Not to be labeled a defensive Mallory fan (which I am, I think she's fabulous and support her no matter what) but I think that if she looks "big" it isn't simply a matter of her weight but her general body type. She's busty which can make her look heavier and she's got an overall bigger build and broad shoulders. Even at her peak competition weight she never appeared tiny and I doubt she ever will. (NT) -- No name, 22:10:20 04/12/14 Sat This is percisely the issue. As someone built just like Mallory but shorter, I went through this throughout competition. No matter what, I will always look bigger than the average pageant girl because of my build. I'm a 34 DD. My measurements at the moment are 34-24-33 but instead of looking proportioned, most people think I'm overweight, especially when I wear loose-fitting clothing. Even in tight clothes, I never look as petite as other girls with the same amount of body fat (NT) -- No name, 06:47:03 04/13/14 Sun But she has an hourglass figure. She could look tiny if she were at a lower weight. Losing weight comes off everywhere. Still love her though for her natural personality. What you see is what you get, and we love it. No phoniness here! (NT) -- No name, 12:25:41 04/14/14 Mon Since when did being an hourglass automatically mean you could be "tiny"? I suppose it depends on your definition of tiny. Mallory will NEVER be tiny like Betty Thompson was tiny or Kaitlin Monte was tiny. Her body just isn't built like that. She has a beautiful hourglass figure, but her structure is bigger/wider than tiny, which is what makes her sexy as hell, imo. Even if she were a size 2, she wouldn't look tiny. She'd just be even more sexy (NT) -- No name, 15:25:49 04/14/14 Mon So long as you dress for your body, you can be sexy. Mallory does this SO well. Betty Thompson, all these girls...they know how to dress to their body. (NT) -- No name, 09:52:59 04/15/14 Tue she looks big! (NT) -- No name, 12:52:29 04/11/14 Fri Love it! She looks fabulous. :) (NT) -- No name, 17:46:44 04/11/14 Fri There is nothing "big" about her. She has a curvy figure "8" figure and looks just great. I might have chosen a different dress, but she is beautiful. (NT) -- No name, 17:42:35 04/18/14 Fri There may not be anything big about her, but she looks big in this picture. Perhaps better undergarments would help? (NT) -- No name, 07:17:44 04/20/14 Sun New poster -- I don't think she looks the least bit big. I guess I have a different definition of big (NT) -- No name, 10:09:38 04/20/14 Sun

Subject: Link that shows the Nina prom request
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:05:40 04/20/14 Sun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMa4mEj_6II [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Miss NC
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:57:24 04/15/14 Tue Can't get over how much Miss NC reminds me of a young Stockard Channing. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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And I can't get over how you think she reminds you of Stockard Channing! (NT) -- No name, 23:11:26 04/18/14 Fri Um, I don't think she reminds me of Stockard Channing. I KNOW she reminds me of Stockard Channing (NT) -- No name, 06:42:03 04/19/14 Sat I see it more in other pictures of Miss NC but not so much this one. (NT) -- No name, 13:10:56 04/19/14 Sat Different poster but I definitely see it in this one. Their expressions are almost identical so it's a good picture to see it in (NT) -- No name, 14:13:57 04/19/14 Sat

Subject: For great P.R., Nina should show up at that kid's prom
Author: What a great PR opportunity [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:56:34 04/19/14 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Laura's nuptuals
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:36:53 04/06/14 Sun So, it is apparent that Laura married Mike Fleiss this past weekend. What I personally think of this I will just keep to myself because it isn't positive, and I'll leave it at that. However, this is a pretty big deal, and here's why: 1. The name Mike Fleiss may not be a household name, but his shows sure are, particularly the Bachelor. He was also the producer of that horrible Who wants to marry a multi-millionaire that Leanza Cornett hosted. 2. Mike Fleiss' net worth is $80 million dollars. 3. This has to be one of the biggest pageant marriages of all time. I think that Denzel Washington is married to a former Miss. And Vanessa Lachey was a former Miss Teen USA. But I doubt Nick Lachey is as wealthy as Mike Fleiss. Denzel sure is, though. I would say that in the Miss America system, this has to be the most high profile and high netting marriages. Those Oklahoma girls are sitting pretty enough (Shawntel and Jennifer Berry), but there is no comparison here. I would say this much--Laura has the right to privacy just like anyone else, and she has certainly exercised that right. But I also feel that if you marry someone so high profile, you should expect that people are going to talk about it. I wish her the best, hope for the best, and I guess I have to tip my hat to her. She "married well". But so did he. She's a real treasure, and her worth is well beyond money. Money can go away, but Laura's got so much more going for her personally. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Are you defining "high profile" by net worth? Because in your Point Number 1, you admit he is not a household name (but his sister surely is!) In any event, I don't think this marriage is any more noteworthy than other pageant marriages. There are a number of formers who have had high profile marriages: Phyllis George, who married the Governor of KY, Mary Ann Mobley and Gary Collins (high profile at the time), TawnyGodin was married to actor John Schneider, Tara Dawn Holland married a U.S. Congressman. In the USA system, let us not forget Ali Landry who was famously married and divorced from Mario Lopez. Very much in the news at that time. There are others. Yes, Laura married well, if you define "well" by how much her husband is worth. My definition is a bit different. High profile? Ehh, not so much either.. (NT) -- Congrats to the two of them, 07:30:35 04/07/14 Mon I think he's high profile in the sense he's a big deal in the entertainment industry although the average person isn't familiar with him. (NT) -- No name, 19:05:04 04/07/14 Mon Not his sister, but 2nd cousin. I don't even know what a 2nd cousin is. (NT) -- No name, 20:42:54 04/07/14 Mon I was exhausted last night when I posted this, but how could I POSSIBLY forget--Allison Alderson. She reminds us how wealthy she is every time she hosts Miss Tennessee. And also, Mark Anthony and the former Miss Universe from Puerto Rico. (NT) -- original poster, 08:08:58 04/07/14 Mon Denzel Washington is married to a former local titleholder from NC. She was the first black contestant in a formerly Confederate state and competed at Miss NC in 1970. She won preliminary talent and finished second runner-up. I believe her maiden name was Pauletta Pearson. (NT) -- No name, 15:37:44 04/07/14 Mon Pauletta was mentioned in Deford's book on Miss America. She was the first black Miss NC contestant (on the state level) and managed to get second runner-up out of 70 girls. This was also before Cheryl Brown received recognition as the first black national contestant later that year at Miss America. NC also had a contestant that was Mrs. Charles Bronson. (NT) -- No name, 12:26:14 04/09/14 Wed North Carolina was indeed the first southern state to have a black woman compete for a Miss America state title. Just a few weeks after that, I believe, Virginia followed suit when its first black local titleholder competed at state. I want to say the young woman in Virginia also made top 5 or top 10. (NT) -- No name, 20:04:23 04/10/14 Thu And yet Virginia didn't crown a black woman until 2003. They were one of the lasts and it was after much attention. They went and recruited Nancy Redd for that purpose (NT) -- no name, 19:02:52 04/18/14 Fri " She "married well". But so did he. She's a real treasure, and her worth is well beyond money. Money can go away, but Laura's got so much more going for her personally." --- Agree with this completely. And Laura is just beginning her life-- who knows what amazing things she may end up doing. Also on the note of former Miss America's who have married successful men, Heather French Henry whose husband is a surgeon and former Lieutenant Governor of Kentucky. (NT) -- No name, 08:57:47 04/15/14 Tue

Subject: Presenting our Miss America -- the rude and arrogant Nina!
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:18:32 03/22/14 Sat [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Scroll the 27 mark if you want to hear her rude response to the boyfriend question. What a little snot (NT) -- No name, 11:19:16 03/22/14 Sat For those curious ones, yes Nina does have a boyfriend back home (NT) -- No name, 13:01:22 03/22/14 Sat I thought it was a rude answer as well. No one is discounting her service work when they ask personal questions. They're just curious. I'm sure it gets tiring of course but it comes with the territory and if she doesn't like it there are better ways to deflect than chastising some clueless college kid. (NT) -- No name, 12:08:42 03/22/14 Sat I don't know. On the one hand, Nina drives me nuts--I didn't think she was the best choice. On the other hand, I don't really think this was a rude answer. She obviously doesn't want to talk about her personal life, which is her right. Just because you're Miss America doesn't mean you have to answer every question posed, especially if you feel like it dilutes your message. She could have answered it better, but having read the responses before watching the video, I expected a much bitchier statement. Yes, people can ask whatever they want, but it doesn't mean she has to give anyone an all-access pass to her private life. (NT) -- No name, 12:15:20 03/23/14 Sun I don't think she has to to answer questions about her personal life, but she should be able to deflect them more diplomatically. (NT) -- No name, 12:19:51 03/23/14 Sun Previous poster here. I agree that it wasn't a perfect answer. Out of curiosity, how would other posters here have answered it? I for one probably would have gone with a simple "Sorry if this is a letdown, but with all due respect, I'm here to focus on my volunteer and activist work and would rather talk about my personal life. Is there anything else you'd like to ask about?" (Also, a big smile can soften the blow of an answer like this.) Curious how other posters would choose to answer politely and diplomatically. (NT) -- No name, 12:27:18 03/23/14 Sun "rather not talk," that is. Lol. Important difference. (NT) -- No name, 12:28:22 03/23/14 Sun I would have handled it just like that. I think that's the point. To say you don't want to talk about it is fine. But to use that question to justify your rant on a bigger issue is rude. You make the person asking the question feel like they violated some rule and were totally out of line when, really, they weren't out of line at all in asking that question of a beauty queen visiting a college campus (NT) -- No name, 12:41:04 03/23/14 Sun I'm sure her boyfriend wants his life kept private as well. She's probably doing it to respect their privacy. Maybe it came off a little snobby. But that' part of her life she has every right to keep out of the public eye. (NT) -- No name, 17:11:36 03/23/14 Sun A big smile, a wink, and a "Why? Are you volunteering?" would have deflected the question, gotten her a laugh, and a whole lot more love from the crowd. She came across as a snarky, uptight, know it all. If I had been the guy that asked the question I would have gotten up and walked out. What's she going to do? Call him fat? (NT) -- No name, 19:04:37 03/23/14 Sun Meh, not sure if that's the response I would want Miss A to give either. (NT) -- No name, 19:36:09 03/23/14 Sun Just by virtue of you saying "Meh" makes you sound like a Great Grandmother suffering from irritable bowel syndrome. (NT) -- No name, 18:18:00 03/24/14 Mon I just don't think it's necessary for her to flirt her way out of uncomfortable questions. We still want her to be taken seriously. But really, the boyfriend question is something these girls have dealt with since they were state and even local titleholders, they're beauty queens, they're looked at as our ideal woman, whether or not they're available is brought up time and time again even if its just a joke. (NT) -- No name, 18:41:44 03/24/14 Mon I'm sorry for my flippant response posted above. You are entitled to your opinion and it is valid. I personally found her response rather rude and rigid. But hey, I'm from the South. We smile and flirt with everybody. Lol! Oh, and by the way. I'm sure you are much too young to be a Great Grandmother and your bowels are just fine! (NT) -- No name, 19:50:22 03/24/14 Mon I didn't like her response either, I think there's a lot in between, she could have easily smiled and laughed it off. (NT) -- No name, 20:10:04 03/24/14 Mon She's made it clear in the past that this topic is off limits for public questions. Why do so many people ask? (NT) -- No name, 19:48:42 03/23/14 Sun How would a random college kid know that she had made it off limits? These aren't pageant enthusiasts who already know all about Nina. (NT) -- No name, 21:23:31 03/23/14 Sun Just a smile and maybe "I appreciate the interest but today I'm here to talk about ....." Maybe expand a bit and say that the organization is much bigger than Miss A as an individual if you're really dying to make a point. But tone and body language can make a world of difference. (NT) -- No name, 15:28:39 03/23/14 Sun Frankly, I'd have just answered the question and moved on. "I do have someone special in my life, but I like to keep that private. I'd love to share more information about my with ___, though" or "I am not dating anyone at the moment, because I am very committed to my work as Miss America. One of the things I am most involved in right now is my work with ___, which I'd love to tell you more about" would have been fine. Why the need to avoid that question? It's not that big of a deal. You can answer it AND preserve privacy AND move the questioning along, all at the same time. (NT) -- No name, 18:23:49 03/30/14 Sun No, she doesn't have to answer every question, but she should handle every question like a diplomat. Not doubt she made that person feel like a stupid fool for daring to ask her that question. Miss America is supposed to embrace her public, not put her nose in the air and call you out for asking something she doesn't want to answer (NT) -- No name, 12:38:54 03/23/14 Sun Wow! That was really condescending! (NT) -- No name, 19:02:13 03/22/14 Sat Good God, she says "um" a lot!! (NT) -- No name, 11:27:37 03/23/14 Sun Oh come on people, Nina was far from my first choice for Miss America and I am not exactly a fan of hers, but her response was not bad at all....I actually found her diplomatic and can well understand her frustration. I am an accomplished educator and community volunteer, but when introduced to people and they find out I used to live in a popular resort area, that's all they want to talk about. It's the person who asked the question who is rude, not Miss America. (NT) -- No name, 16:41:56 03/23/14 Sun She's a pageant winner, not a politician or high powered female attorney or doctor, etc. Look at Angelina Jolie for example, she does tons of charity work but people still want to know what designers she's wearing or what her favorite color lipstick is. Miss A is still a celebrity of sorts and people are going to be curious about trivial things, it doesn't mean they think less of her service work. (NT) -- No name, 18:00:28 03/23/14 Sun I don't think her answer was at all rude (NT) -- No name, 18:42:39 03/23/14 Sun It was rude and snotty. I felt sorry for the student who asked her this, and got what I would call almost a rant. (NT) -- No name, 04:22:37 03/24/14 Mon You are a super-sensitive nut. (NT) -- No name, 14:42:26 03/25/14 Tue Nina is the supersensitive nut! (NT) -- No name, 14:33:55 03/28/14 Fri If any of you have the 1994 pageant, go back and look at the end, when Kathie Lee is talking to Kim. She said something about Kim being engaged. Kim was very diplomatic, eloquent, and said very matter of fact "We were able to continue our relationship this past year, and yes, we are engaged". She didn't pop an attitude, Kathie seemed genuinely happy, and the world went on. And what is so wrong with asking if someone is in a relationship? I would think it flattering. (NT) -- No name, 08:39:06 03/24/14 Mon Well, you're talking about Kim Aiken. A class act from the beginning to end of her reign. (NT) -- No name, 19:54:05 03/24/14 Mon Nina has to constantly present herself as "overcoming bigotry' and prejudice--ie--another big martyr of the ages. The overwhelming majority of pageant fans were opposed to Nina's winning NOT b/c of bigotry but b/c we felt she didn't deserve the crown--she didn't even deserve the NY crown. But b/c she's a so-called "minority" that sets up an immunity from criticism. (NT) -- No name, 05:13:44 03/26/14 Wed I would disagree somewhat with what you said. I think she deserved to win Miss New York. However, it came out very quickly after about her tapes. Because this had the very plausible scenario of causing a scandal, I think she should have been quietly disqualified at the national level and be done with it. They are lucky the tapes never became public. And you still never know--Vanessa Williams' pictures were released about 40 days before she was finished with her reign. What I have a problem with is that while she does seem to paint herself as a victim, according to that tape, we have evidence that she is two faced and participating in the same kind of verbal bullying. I would also disagree with your assessment of how you described her minority status. (NT) -- No name, 13:46:38 03/27/14 Thu One more thing to add--I am a firm believer that you have to look at the "little things" that show someone's character and behavior. I think her rudeness in this video indicative of her personality. She seems anger based, and she doesn't seem to think people deserve to be treated with respect if she doesn't happen to like what they are saying. I am sure there are 52 other women that would have loved to have that question posed to them as Miss America. You are not above anything, and it seems to come through in this video. (NT) -- No name, 13:48:54 03/27/14 Thu I attended NY last year and I would have placed the 2nd RU or the 1st RU over Nina--no question about it. (NT) -- No name, 07:05:25 03/28/14 Fri I thought the 1st r-u should have won too. Can't actually remember who was the 2nd r-u; who was it? (NT) -- No name, 18:18:08 03/28/14 Fri I think the 1st runner-up is one of the most attractive Miss NYs they've ever had. She has a very posh, upscale look about her. It's too bad she never got to compete at Miss America. Thismay sound horrible, but I've always thought that inheriting a state title after the original winner winsMiss America is kind of likebeing given a half-eaten sandwich. (NT) -- No name, 23:32:15 03/28/14 Fri If you were at Miss NY last year, it was clear the 1st runner thought she won. She was hardly the definition of gracious (NT) -- No name, 12:50:07 03/31/14 Mon I was, and I completely disagree. I thought Amanda was gracious, and didn't she win SS and talent? Don't remember, but fairly sure. She was terrific, but not the judges' choice, and is a great Miss NY now (NT) -- No name, 21:37:57 04/02/14 Wed Amanda was disappointed but hardly ungracious. It was her last year, she won SS and talent, and she's a great Miss NY. Never seen her be unkind and she very rarely has a bad word to say about anyone. (NT) -- No name, 15:24:04 04/04/14 Fri Plus 100 (NT) -- No name, 14:35:57 03/28/14 Fri The 2nd RU was Acacia Courtney--who this time around is competing in CT. VERY pretty and talented blonde. (NT) -- No name, 10:45:11 03/29/14 Sat Acacia I predict will win CT and has an excellent shot at top ten in Atlantic City. (NT) -- No name, 09:15:54 03/31/14 Mon For crying out loud. Who was her interview coach? And, why didn't they help break her of the habit of saying "um" all the time!?!?? Good grief. (NT) -- No name, 12:11:59 04/01/14 Tue Sorry, poor answer...if she is asked that question all of the time she should have a much better answer by now. And I agree, the um's, wow, she should be way beyond that level at this stage. (NT) -- Nope, not impressed., 17:48:12 04/02/14 Wed Nina won overall interview at Miss NY 2012 when she was Mallory's 2nd runner-up. A judge from that panel -- SL -- was rooting for her to win Miss NY 2013. While Amanda Mason was a double-preliminary winner I'm assuming Nina won on a holistic totality/composite score/final ballot scenario. (NT) -- No name, 11:26:40 04/03/14 Thu Nina didn't win Interview at Miss NY 2013 (NT) -- No name, 12:00:37 04/04/14 Fri Nina did an appearance a few days ago at another college, and was asked a similar question. Oh how her answer changed! She was all charm and cuteness. Apparently the powers that be got after her. How could she not have been asked this same question long before now? (NT) -- No name, 09:23:40 04/15/14 Tue What was her response? (NT) -- No name, 16:44:40 04/15/14 Tue What was her response the other day? (NT) -- No name, 16:46:22 04/15/14 Tue I heard that it had something to do with she had not told her parents about her boyfriend for awhile, but admitted to having one, very nicely (unlike the other). (NT) -- No name, 09:11:51 04/17/14 Thu This was at Loyola College in Baltimore. Her boyfriend is either from Baltimore or lives in Baltimore I think and she talked about him for a little bit. (NT) -- No name, 15:41:57 04/18/14 Fri It just goes to show you--despite all the protests, these boards are being watched by the powers that be. (NT) -- No name, 10:35:41 04/17/14 Thu

Subject: Webcasts

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Date Posted: 15:55:47 04/17/14 Thu

I think we all have benefitted from having them online. However, they are subject to technical problems, and it is certainly not like live in the audience. I understand they take time and money. I would like to contribute towards those funds. I have a suggestion for states--set up a Paypal or donation account. If we can actually get your webcast without any problems, it is clear, functioning properly, we can make a donation towards the cost. If not, then nothing ventured, nothing gained. I have no problem whatsoever donating some money to help it happen. I just have a problem when you must pay for something that is subject to so much problems.

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Subject: Anyone else banned from Guru?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:05:56 03/16/14 Sun [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Yes. I'm not even sure what I could have said other than not liking a jacket in one picture. (NT) -- No name, 08:53:54 03/16/14 Sun I made a comment about Nina's new clothing looked like origami. I even said I liked it. I wasn't banned but got deleted. (NT) -- No name, 12:43:02 03/16/14 Sun Guru is a NUTJOB! Thank god for this board!!!!! (NT) -- No name, 18:14:34 03/16/14 Sun* What's funny is that the page title of the board says "Unmoderated". Unmoderated my foot! (NT) -- No name, 11:44:27 03/17/14 Mon So am I. I've been dying to say this but I knew I would get banned forever on Guru if I did. So I will say it now. "I DO NOT THINK THAT NINA SHOULD HAVE WON MISS AMERICA!" Whew......I feel better now. Now I will explain why. I feel that once the controversy started in regard to calling Mallory fat she should have been red-lined. I knew once that she made the public apology that something was up or that the MAO knew that she was going to win. Also, why apologize if you did not do it? An apology is usually an admission of guilt. Nina is a beautiful and talented girl, but to be honest, Top 10 would have been far enough. I also do not understand why Nina would attack Mallory's weight when you used to be very heavy herself. (NT) -- No name, 12:58:32 03/17/14 Mon i agree and I just posted on that very thing? Nina was not my choice either her talent was the same at teen and not that good CRystles was way better and every other thing i hear out of her mouth is about being indian. She talks about that more than being a american and something is definatly fishy in regard to her and Malory (NT) -- No name, 22:17:53 03/17/14 Mon Thanks for the input, Catalina. I think. (NT) -- No name, 23:38:06 03/17/14 Mon I also wondered why she would call someone else fat when she struggles with her weight herself. (NT) -- No name, 14:32:56 03/17/14 Mon Forget about Guru. Post here. You people always say you didn't post anything wrong or just posted so and so which is obviously not true. If the Guru considers you a troublemaker, or someone they don't want over there, then please forget it and post here. (NT) -- No name, 10:54:06 03/18/14 Tue I agree. I like posting here much better than on that overly moderated Guru board. I don't even go there anymore. You can't express an opinion on the Guru board unless your opinion is the same as the moderator's opinion. (NT) -- No name, 11:30:33 03/18/14 Tue no really I know they are funny so i never posted anything that could be taken as criticism but as another poster has said there is a nut job over there (NT) -- No name, 14:57:52 03/18/14 Tue yep,,commented Ohio had no competitors that are the complete pkg....deleted. (NT) -- Geesh, 08:21:50 04/08/14 Tue That whole line of discussion was deleted because of the person who keeps posting that they are OK with gays, but tired of hearing about gay rights (just wow). And oh, Kara Mitchell should not win just because she is a lesbian, even though I've never seen it posted that she should?? Where was their concern last year when she had the exact same platform and was gay then too (as she's always has been)? My thought is they get she's a contender this year. She's improved her look, has been invited to do a ton of appearances for her platform, can dance, is ss ready now, and it's evident she's serious about getting to Miss America. Plus she's aging out so she'll be putting in all of her chips. There are a few others as well. Who knows how it will end up, as it will come down to who's 'on' that week. (NT) -- No name, 20:12:17 04/08/14 Tue Im sick of these guru posts here. It is disrespectful to the Mod of this board. It's like obessing about your ex to your new love. (NT) -- No name, 19:55:41 04/08/14 Tue I thought this board was supposed to be UNMODERATED? (NT) -- No name, 12:47:35 04/14/14 Mon Maybe our mod can clarify, but I think moderation actually refers to the posts having to be approved by the mod before posting, as we are doing now, in an effort to control spam or worse. We all tend to think moderation means censoring, deletion and banning, but that is just babysitting. The other board does declare itself "Unmoderated," but I think that just meant that everything is posted immediately, but there is no guarantee that it won't be removed if the mod decides it's inappropriate. (NT) -- No name, 06:15:10 04/15/14 Tue This is correct. The messages have to be approved due to spammers. Every single post that's been submitted since being on moderated status has been posted (NT) -- Moderator, 07:52:02 04/15/14 Tue How long does it usually take to have a post approved and posted? (NT) -- No name, 09:19:22 04/15/14 Tue It all depends on my schedule for that day. Some days I'm at work for 15 hours straight and it's so busy that I can't check in. Other days like today, it's so light that I leave at noon (NT) -- No name, 13:55:12 04/15/14 Tue

Subject: Tony Bowls named OFFICIAL Evening Gown Designer of the Miss America Organization!
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:59:18 04/08/14 Tue Tony Bowls named OFFICIAL Evening Gown Designer of the Miss America Organization! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I think it's terrible. Girls should be allowed to choose the designer and exact gown they want. It's their big day. A once in a lifetime event. And now they are told? No sorry you HAVE to wear tony bowls gown. What the hell is that? (NT) -- No name, 05:33:58 04/09/14 Wed I like maybe two gowns of his any given year. The rest look to me like prom dresses. The MAO has been so far behind the times with regards to fashion that it's not even funny. This will not help. Furthermore, I feel for the other designers and small gown stores that have some of our clients as their biggest source of income. Seriously, I've NEVER heard of one designer insist that every last contestant is forced to use his product. Onstage? If I was a contestant, I'd be pissed. (NT) -- No name, 07:12:39 04/09/14 Wed Every single contestant has been required to wear the same swimsuit designer since at least 2005, I believe. Plus Ribkoff for opening number some years, Express, AmWay makeup (they basically shot unpaid AmWay commercials), etc. Pink and Pepper. Etc etc etc. It will all be fine. (NT) -- No name, 19:03:51 04/13/14 Sun It's different when it's a scored area like Evening Gown. I get what you're saying about swimsuit but at the same time there's not a huge variety of swimsuit styles out there like there are dresses and the gown seems to be the defining moment for the contestants. I think it's a lot more personal than their swim suit choice of the opening number. On another note, this has potential to backfire on Tony. Say a Miss State goes into Miss A a major front runner. She had a gorgeous evening gown at state. She gets to Miss A and doesn't place as high as expected. It could be anything, maybe her talent or her interview. But then a sour grapes state director declares it was being forced to change gowns that ruined her chance. Now that's probably not true but then you've got all the pageant directors in the state angry at Tony Bowls and then how many TB gowns are you going to see at locals or state next year? I know that's a far fetched example but there are just so many variables here. (NT) -- No name, 19:50:29 04/13/14 Sun Yes it is a bad example. The only thing this will backfire on is the contestants. First of all, I have a hard time believing he is giving away all these gowns for free. And I would be mighty pissed if I was forced to purchase a dress from a designer that I didn't want because I was told to do so. His dresses are glorified prom gowns. I could realistically see his gowns for the opening number like Sherri Hill did with USA. But to force everyone to get from one designer isn't fair to the contestants. Look at his gowns, and see if you would see ANY at the Emmys or Academy awards. (NT) -- No name, 07:37:16 04/14/14 Mon

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