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Subject: TX is not all that and the horrible people that trash anyone around her should get their due.


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Date Posted: 17:00:42 09/01/14 Mon


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Subject: Anyone hearing anything out of DC?


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Date Posted: 06:34:12 09/02/14 Tue

Who is standing out, who is liked, who is hated, etc?

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Subject: Miss Florida


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Date Posted: 13:29:11 08/30/14 Sat

Is Miss FL's platform related to abstinence? Who was the last abstinence advocate to make a splash at nationals?

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Subject: Top talents at Sweetheart tonight were Nebraska, NY, NJ, Indiana and the opera singer who went second..forgot who she was. Disappointed in OK and FLA.


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Date Posted: 23:05:05 08/29/14 Fri


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Subject: Could this occur?


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Date Posted: 17:10:31 08/03/14 Sun

If Olivia McMillan were a Miss State. Looking and acting just like she did this week at MAOT, how would she do?
Could a larger girl win?

I ask this not to bash Olivia or anyone. I ask it because would a talented, smart, wellspoken girl, who wasn't larger than a typical pageant girl, be able to be Miss America.

Please discuss

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Subject: Who do you think wants to be MIss A the most? With their heart, mind, and soul, all in the competition?


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Date Posted: 10:06:56 09/02/14 Tue


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Subject: The contestant flight


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Date Posted: 16:57:49 09/02/14 Tue

To: All of you
From: Aviation Geek

I am not sure if this is the right flight or not. However, this is the only flight around this time that is headed from Washington D.C. to Atlantic City. If you want to track it, here you go:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/RBY802

Note: There are storms in the area and they are running way behind, so it might take a while. Check in after 9 eastern.

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Subject: Fun video


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Date Posted: 16:24:17 09/02/14 Tue

Cute video from DC today. Miss WV, MS and GA interview Obama.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/wp/2014/09/02/miss-america-contestants-highlight-the-pageants-wonkier-side-with-video/

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Subject: Miss CT's video


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Date Posted: 14:55:36 08/22/14 Fri

Miss CT's video just made me like her a whole lot less. She comes off as a caricature of a girl from Connecticut: rich (classical ballet and horseback riding are not cheap), blonde and obnoxious. She was my pick for frontrunner, but now, I don't know...

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Subject: This will surely be deleted soon from Guru so let's discuss here:


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Date Posted: 09:52:29 07/21/14 Mon

http://sheridipitous.wordpress.com/2014/07/20/is-this-toddlers-and-tiaras/

Interesting blog post from Miss Montana 2013 Sheridan Pope. Takes some pretty big swings at the dethroned Miss Delaware Amanda Longacre.

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Subject: Beautiful message from Miss Nevada!


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Date Posted: 21:05:51 08/31/14 Sun

missnevada2014
7 minutes ago · #ellieformissamerica
I can't believe it. Tomorrow, I leave for Miss America. I never thought I would ever type those words- especially not at only 17 years old. I've never worked harder for anything in my entire life, and this summer has been unlike any other. I am grateful that I didn't have to prepare for this by myself, and am extremely humbled to have such an incredible team behind me. My family especially touched my life throughout this process- they believe in me and my abilities from the beginning. They haven't stopped since. My sister, Amy, has been my rock and my best friend and supporter throughout this entire journey through the Miss America Organization. I truly wouldn't be here without her. She's my biggest fan, and the best, bravest, and truest Miss Nevada's Outstanding Teen I've EVER seen. As I go for my last workout, pack my last few suitcases, and write this post, the only thing on my mind now is my Lord and Savior. He's carried me through it all, and His Word will be on my mind for the next two weeks. "Blessed is the one who perseveres under trial- for having stood the test, they will receive the crown of life that The Lord has promised to those who love him." -James 1:12. I am YOUR Miss Nevada 2014. The real, fair, and true Miss Nevada. I am ready to make my state proud and I am going to put everything into this pageant. Get ready America, and don't underestimate the 17 year old. Wish me luck and HERE WE GO!

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Subject: How to dodge a bad judges question!!!!


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Date Posted: 13:06:02 08/31/14 Sun



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Subject: Arrival Ceremony


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Date Posted: 15:11:18 09/01/14 Mon

2015 MISS AMERICA CONTESTANTS MAKE THEIR DEBUT WHERE THE LEGACY BEGAN ON THE FAMED BOARDWALK IN ATLANTIC CITY, SEPTEMBER 3 AT 4:30 P.M.

Public and Media Invited for Introduction of all 53 of
2015 Miss America Contestants

WHAT: A chance to meet the 53 incredible young women competing for the coveted crown upon their arrival in Atlantic City - at the birthplace of the nation's most prestigious pageant for the 2015 Miss America Competition.

WHO: Joining the contestants for this ceremony will be a host of organizational and governmental luminaries, including the honorable Kim Guadagno, New Jersey's Lt. Governor and Secretary of State; Don Guardian, Honorable Mayor of Atlantic City; John Palmieri, Executive Director of the Casino Reinvestment Development Authority; Liza Cartmell, President of the Atlantic City Alliance; David Tilton, President and Chief Executive Officer of AtlantiCare; Sam Haskell, III, Chairman & CEO of the Miss America Organization; Sharon Pearce, President of the Miss America Organization.

Miss America 2014 Nina Davuluri will speak as the Ambassador for Atlantic City

WHERE: Kennedy Plaza, The Boardwalk, Atlantic City, NJ

WHEN: Wednesday, September 3 at 4:30 p.m. ET

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Subject: 1993 & 1999 crownings


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Date Posted: 15:36:22 08/31/14 Sun






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Subject: Miss Nevada franchise revoked


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Date Posted: 11:44:47 08/30/14 Sat

Deleted off Guru because Guru is an idiot. The NV franchise has been pulled due to cheating.

http://www.mynews3.com/content/video/default.aspx?videoId=5306586&navCatId=32042

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Subject: Nevada MAOT


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Date Posted: 02:20:15 09/01/14 Mon

Please study the TV message by channel 3 Las Vegas 8/29. It states the truth. What I gather is that , Yes, the winner was asked to (unfairly) compete along with Amy Smith at Nationals and could not compete unless she signed a legal agreement by MAOT attnys that if asked anything about the Nevada situation she would have to respond with a statement that was completely false. All because The Smiths had a lawsuit (and I think ) possibly threatened bad media coverage. Look at the TV message! You can figure it out.

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Subject: Miss America 1993 Talents


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Date Posted: 08:00:38 08/19/14 Tue



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Subject: Scoring - so why is talent such a big part of the score? I would think interview should be more like 40% because we listen to her speak not perform her talent at places.


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Date Posted: 04:38:49 08/26/14 Tue


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Subject: THE SECOND ANNUAL CONTESTANT CLIPS ARE UP


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Date Posted: 11:53:21 08/31/14 Sun

http://www.voy.com/209312/
There are over 300 clips of your favorites in interview, talent and more! Stop by and spend some time reviewing your favorites, the ones that are getting the most hype, and the ones you know nothing about!

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Subject: article on Miss America 1998 Kate Shindle's book "Being Miss america: Behind the Rhinestone Curtain


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Date Posted: 09:02:08 08/31/14 Sun

Miss America winner writes book documenting experiences

By ELISA LALA Staff Writer | Posted 2 weeks ago

Miss America 1998 Kate Shindle won’t be in attendance at this year’s competition in Atlantic City; she doubts she’d be welcome.

The former titleholder recently wrote a memoir, “Being Miss America: Behind the Rhinestone Curtain,” in which she shares her experiences of the year she spent living under the crown and the history of the organization that she says “changed her life.” But it’s not all sparkles.

And for that, the Miss America Organization may be unhappy with her.

“I wouldn’t be surprised if the Miss America Organization unilaterally doesn’t embrace this book because I’m critical of the internal struggles of the institution,” Shindle said. “My goal was to tell the story of Miss America through my lens. Every time a Miss America writes a book or makes an appearance they send out alerts, but they’ve been pretty radio silent on my book, and I have a feeling they know what they’re in for.”

In “Being Miss America,” which will go on sale Sept. 1, just days before this year’s Miss America finals on Sept. 14, Shindle shares what she sees as “mismanagement and leadership instability” over the course of the organization’s history and unethical moves made to maintain television ratings and make money, including partnering with Children’s Miracle Network hospitals.

“Keep Children’s Miracle Network around; it’s a great group that does wonderful things. But stop balancing the books on the backs of kids with terminal illnesses. It’s not only ethically reprehensible, it’s borderline fraudulent,” she said.

Shindle explains that under the terms of the agreement with Children’s Miricle Network, Miss America herself is to serve as an ambassador for CMN during her year, and the Miss America Organization receives “reportedly as much as 60 percent” of the joint profit.

Shindle, a native of South Jersey who currently lives in New York City, said her goal wasn’t to write an expose.

“I love Miss America and I want it to succeed. This organization changed my whole life, it made (me) a really passionate activist and gave me literally a platform to bring awareness to my passions, and there aren’t many nonprofit organizations that can do that for a 20-year-old, but it becomes frustrating when it seems clear to an observer that there are issues,” she said.

Her mission said was to create a road map for how this organization has evolved as a nonprofit and where “I think it has to go.”

She writes: “If Miss America is to survive, she will not survive because the Almighty God of Television somehow brought her enough viewers and advertisers in one particular year, or even in a string of years. She will not survive because she successfully panders to the lowest common denominator; this approach is antithetical not only to building a brand, but to crafting Miss America’s brand in particular. Miss America will only survive if she decides exactly who she is, develops a lasting identity, and rejects the many temptations that run counter to that identity.

“But before any of that can occur, the organization needs to get its act together. Stop rewarding mediocrity. Let go of staff members who have been promoted to their level of incompetence. Organize the former Miss Americas who want to be involved, and send them out as ambassadors with a specific marketing message. The pageant has spent almost a century creating strong effective female leaders, but them it doesn’t really do much with them aside from inviting them to the show each year. It’s not only a waste of resources; it indicates that the people in charge don’t understand what the program accomplishes in the lives of very real women.”

As she predicted, the Miss America Organization isn’t too thrilled about the book.

In a statement to The Press of Atlantic City, officials said, “We have not had the chance to read the book. We were disappointed to learn from a reporter at the A.C. Press that a former Miss America, from 17 years ago, has chosen to take this path to advance whatever issues she might have.

“The Miss America Organization is the largest provider of scholarships for young women in the world, making available $45 million in scholarships each year. We are proud of the thousands of young women who participate at the local, state and national levels to advance their education, careers and service to their communities. We look forward to celebrating this great American tradition this September here in our birthplace in Atlantic City.”

Shindle said, “Miss America has instant name recognition but there are a lot of versions of what is. This is mine.”

Contact Elisa Lala:

609-272-7260

elala@pressofac.com

@ACPressLala on Twitter

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Subject: Olivia


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Date Posted: 18:53:41 08/02/14 Sat

Miss America's Outstanding Teen 2014:



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Subject: Predict America's Choice


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Date Posted: 11:54:03 08/26/14 Tue

Every year, it goes to the girl who's gotten the most attention in the media (for autism, for being in the military, from the reality show, etc). When there isn't a girl with a story, it goes to a big sash state. I haven't noticed anyone breaking through into the mainstream media this year.

So I'm guessing Alabama. Every year, Alabama is enthusiastic about their girl, but this year it seems off the scale.

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Subject: Advice for MISS NEVADA


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Date Posted: 16:46:16 08/29/14 Fri

She's lovely, but someone please tell her that the more she goes on and on about going to college this fall, the more it looks like she's not considering herself a serious contender for Miss America. Now don't get me wrong, I think it's great that she's excited about college, but when you're a state titleholder and you want to be taken seriously for the crown, you need to present yourself as someone ready to take the year off to step into the Miss America shoes. By the sound of her tweets, I'm afraid taking a year off would devastate Ellie.

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Subject: Did Gaspar "out" a client??


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Date Posted: 09:08:50 08/30/14 Sat

Is it true Gaspar outed a client on the guru board, saying she was not happy with her Tony Bowls gown and had to spend hundreds to have it altered? Someone told me about it but I can't find the thread...he didn't name names but since he is only working with a very few MAO girls for Miss America, he has cast suspicion on them. Anyone read the thread before it vanished?

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Subject: Found this to be an interesting article - a book written by Miss America 1998 Kate Shindle http://m.pressofatlanticcity.com/missamerica/miss-america-winner-writes-book-documenting-experiences/article_4fedf854-2646-11e4-b54c-001a4bcf887a.html?mode=jqm#.U_IW5T10Ovw.facebook You will probably have to copy/paste to get to the article. What do people think - is she on target?


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Date Posted: 17:11:48 08/30/14 Sat

http://m.pressofatlanticcity.com/missamerica/miss-america-winner-writes-book-documenting-experiences/article_4fedf854-2646-11e4-b54c-001a4bcf887a.html?mode=jqm#.U_IW5T10Ovw.facebook You will probably have to copy/paste to get to this article.

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Subject: Holding a Local Title Twice


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Date Posted: 18:00:47 08/27/14 Wed

Is there still a rule that states that you may not hold the same local title more than once? Or did they do away with that rule?

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Subject: Interesting piece from TX's 1st RU, Christine Tang


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Date Posted: 17:29:09 08/28/14 Thu

http://www.thepageantguy.com/from-heartache-to-hope/

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Subject: Sweetheart webcast has started!


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Date Posted: 17:25:36 08/29/14 Fri

http://www.nfhsnetwork.com/schools/hoopeston-area-high-school-hoopeston-il

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Subject: Miss Nevada and OT


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Date Posted: 21:22:28 07/22/14 Tue

Just a warning to everyone, This Nevada mess is going to unfold soon. The whole board of directors no longer exists and both pageants are under investigation.

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Subject: Miss CA interview


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Date Posted: 12:02:30 08/28/14 Thu

http://www.kusi.com/video?autoStart=true&topVideoCatNo=default&clipId=10525137

Do you see Miss America in her?

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Subject: Most Overacting Crowning Moment for 2015 Pageant


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Date Posted: 15:29:53 08/22/14 Fri



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Subject: Is it true the contestants are going to DC to the White House before the pageant?? Details? It was deleted from Guru


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Date Posted: 16:07:12 08/27/14 Wed


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Subject: What the hell is the matter with the MAO????


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Date Posted: 16:53:23 08/15/14 Fri

Sick baby in bed. Nina smiling like an idiot with a crown on her head. It's things like this that make people roll their eyes at pageants.



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Subject: Truth about MNOT


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Date Posted: 20:37:26 07/23/14 Wed

I will make this as short as possible: The Smith sisters received special treatment and broke rules from the minute they were crowned at their preliminary. The Smith family has a very close personal relationship with the former ED, Amy Hacker. She allowed them to break rules all along – some that were broken at the pageant were: having/using cell phones, leaving their room without a chaperone, their mother going backstage and speaking with production staff and mandatory paperwork not being handed in at check-in.
Haleyann was the preliminary talent winner for the teens. In such a small pageant (14 contestants), this holds a lot of value. The prelim talent winner is “usually” either the 1st RU or the winner. When the top 5 was announced and Haleyann did not place, red flags went up. Amy was not a stand out and an unexpected winner, therefore, more red flags went up. Immediately following the pageant, the President of the board resigned. Most of the parents and directors, along with others, all submitted complaints to MAOT and MAO requesting the ballots be audited and the broken rules/regulations be investigated. The Miss NV Board was allowed to basically investigate themselves and the lies continued. They audited themselves and surprise, the results came out the same. When MAOT finally requested the ballots and audited them, it was found that the scholastic scores were all incorrect. The entire Miss Nevada Board was fired. Amy Hacker claimed that Haleyann never submitted her transcripts, which was a lie and there is proof that they were submitted. Once these scores were added in correctly, the top 5 changed, leaving only two of the original top 5, one being Amy Smith. Haleyann was now in the top 5. The judges were sent ballots with the new top 5 and were asked to rank them. The winner was Haleyann. End of story. Haleyann should be the only MNOT. The reason Amy Smith won was that the Miss Nevada Board cheated and changed scores so she would win. It wasn’t a close race between the two. The Smiths have hired an attorney and are refusing to have Amy step down. Not sure how they are getting away with it, but they are insisting she still competes along with the real winner at MAOT, which is ridiculous. Again, she is not the winner – Haleyann is the winner and they are turning the whole thing into a circus. Do the right thing and step down, Amy. You and your family have all caused the other contestants and their families enough heartache.

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Subject: How about NAMING the states that actually have their gown?


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Date Posted: 17:00:29 08/20/14 Wed

It sounds as if OK has hers, and now some are claiming that they have theirs but won't name who. Unless this is all some big game to those that have theirs already, and I'm not sure why that would be, how about if your titleholder has one, just say the name of the state. I think this gown idea is bad but at least give credit where credit is due. It doesn't hurt to say "I live in _____ and our Miss has hers".

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Subject: Re Kate Shindle


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Date Posted: 16:24:32 08/22/14 Fri

Comments on Kate shindle's book are entertaining. Especially this one from an out-of-state board member (to remain anon). This is excerpted from Pageant Central's Facebook page: I'm not really surprised by this. And I'm sure it's juicy and I may or may not read it. It's just that I lost a whole lot of respect for Kate when she - not once but TWICE - was caught violating the very specific rules about not being allowed to be with contestants during Miss America week in 2010 when she was coaching Miss NY, Alyse Zwick. That's the real reason she hasn't been welcome back at Miss America in recent years. One night, after all the contestants had gone to bed, they were all awakened and had to do a room check because Alyse's roommate reported her missing. Just when they were going to call the police, Alyse was found in Kate's room with her. They warned her then to stay away. Then, a couple of days later, while the girls were in rehearsal, Alyse asked to go to the restroom. And later, a chaperone discovered her and Kate in the bathroom in the stall together!! Kate got in deep doo-doo for that. And the sad thing is she probably got Alyse
disqualified. Alyse won SS, but didn't make the cut on Finals night. And obviously, we'll never know if she would have made it on her own or not, but many were surprised she didn't make it. (And she's the only Miss NY since like 2007 to not make the cut.) The Miss NY organization stopped working with Kate after that. I also know of a former state contestant (not from Indiana) who reached out to Kate to inquire about coaching her and was told, "For 10 grand I'll make you Miss America." But Kate wouldn't even talk to her until she was willing to pony up the 10 grand. So while I'm not all that enchanted with MAO myself these days, I gotta say that I'm considering the source on this one. And it's too bad. I used to LOVE Kate Shindle.

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Subject: JUDGES


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Date Posted: 06:31:39 08/14/14 Thu

Mark Cherry
Shawn Johnson
Lee Meriwether
Kathy Ireland
Donald Driver
Anne McDonald (military)
Gary Vaynerchuk (Entrepreneur, never heard of him)

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Subject: My take on the many of the contestants


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Date Posted: 18:28:16 08/18/14 Mon

AL--Love her video, just wish she didn't sound like a 12 year old girl

ARK==Bad video. Could no one in ARK help her with this?

CA--Not attractive. Think she will follow in 2012's footsteps instead of last years CA.

CT--Pretty. Video is so planned though Makes me wonder if she can be spontaneous. Like ARK, could no one in CT help her film this?

DE--Very strong speaking voice. Like her story!

DC--Favorite video. Interesting girl though a little quirky. Want to know more about her

FL--Good video. Haven't liked her much until now. Hope FL doesn't change her a lot. They usually do

GA--Natural and pretty. Like her video. Her accent is very thick though at times.

HI Darkhorse. This girl is very well spoken, warm and pretty

ID--Fresh. Pretty. Wellspoken. Borders on overdoing the platform though

IL Fresh, fun, nice vibe. Seems to have talent. Want to know more about her.

IN After her over-the-top crowning, I was interested to see how she would portray herself. Sadly, she hasn't changed.

IA LOVE! This girl is my favorite. Natural ability on camera. Fresh. Young. Knew nothing about her and now I am a huge fan. IA may just do it this year.

KS Great job! Pretty, nice speaking voice. Great story. Interesting that she is holding the camera herself, but unlike CT and AR, you focus on what KS is saying, not that she is holding the camera.

KY GREAT story and good storyteller. Natural, well spoken.

LA Too speechy. Very nasaly voice.

ME After last year, I hoped they would be on a roll

MS Very poised, but forced. She clearly has the skills, but I have yet see her connect. Maybe in person she does. On camera, she does not.

MO--Very short film. Wanted more. Love the ice idea.

NV--Way too young looking and sounding. I know Scanlan won at 17. This girl is no Scanlan.

NJ Strange. Video was badly shot and she performed it like she was telling us something that she shouldn't be saying. Too close and horrible outfit choice and camera angle

NY Fresh, lovely, well spoken, great story. NY is going to give it another run. She is standout

OH Pageant girl from the 1990s. So disconnected. Odd video. What happened to her dummy? Thought at the end, she was going to be tackled.

OK Well spoken. Telegenic. Pretty. Great job. OK brings it year after year. She should continue the trend.

PA She is this year's Kelsey Griswold, without the star quality and the girl next door quality

RI Horrible speaking voice. Needs to breathe

SC "Hey" A prettier version of Miss CA. Talks so fast though, she cuts off ends of words

SD Pretty with gravel voice and Midwestern vowels

TN Pretty, but doesn't shine on camera. Video is a bit borning.

TX Very pretty, but comes off as a bit young. A little too planned. Kept wanting to yell out "Monique the camera is right here" She was always looking just off camera.

UT High pitched voice with little energy

WA Fresh, young, fun. Would like to see her be more featured on camera, but she is very real. Love to spend time with her

WV Please help her West Virginia. She has much promise and I want to love her, but someone needs to work with her

WI Possibilities. She speaks well and radiates on camera.

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Subject: I find it interesting that no one ever talks about Nina. Why is that?


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Subject: Happy Anniversary 20 yrs ago Miss America 1995


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Subject: Scoop : CT phoney nice. she is an ass kisser . girls started betting how long it would take for her to zoom over to talk to the ptb at each event. Mississippi was in full diva mode, rarely talkies to anyone, made snide remarks was above it all with an attitude. florida is beyond boring. Cannot hold a conversation and does not come across as very intelligent. Illinois was bright and engaging and funny and real but there is sooooooooo much negativity toward her state director from everyone, what is up with that. TN is very pretty but she wears tons of make up...tons they said with stripes down the side of her nose and her hair never moves. NY was adorable. Very friendly and beautiful, TX was like a deer in the headlights! seemed intimidated by the moment which happens sometimes when you dream about something for so long? the white evening dress with the long earrings with the feathers barely held her huge breast in (their words). SD and Cal looked like skeletons. I will post more .


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Subject: Beauties


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Date Posted: 08:31:03 08/02/14 Sat



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Subject: MWSO finances in disarray update - Blog created with documents mentioned in original post at http://www.mwso-questions.blogspot.com/


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Date Posted: 08:49:51 08/09/14 Sat

A blog has been set up to post the documents mentioned in the original post about MWSO finances. http://www.mwso-questions.blogspot.com/ Take a look and see if you agree there are issues about the record keeping in the state. They continue to delete any posts on their message board about this and refuse to address any questions. If there is nothing wrong then why won't they say so and show us?

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Subject: AC Press:Being Miss America - Behind the rhinestone curtains


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Miss America winner writes book documenting experiences

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Kate Shindle stars as The Mad Hatter in the Broadway musical ‘Wonderland,’ currently playing at the Marquis Theatre in New York City. Shindle’s parents live in Brigantine.
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By ELISA LALA Staff Writer | Posted 11 hours ago

Miss America 1998 Kate Shindle won’t be in attendance at this year’s competition in Atlantic City; she doubts she’d be welcome.


The former titleholder recently wrote a memoir, “Being Miss America: Behind the Rhinestone Curtain,” in which she shares her experiences of the year she spent living under the crown and the history of the organization that she says “changed her life.” But it’s not all sparkles.

And for that, the Miss America Organization may be unhappy with her.

“I wouldn’t be surprised if the Miss America Organization unilaterally doesn’t embrace this book because I’m critical of the internal struggles of the institution,” Shindle said. “My goal was to tell the story of Miss America through my lens. Every time a Miss America writes a book or makes an appearance they send out alerts, but they’ve been pretty radio silent on my book, and I have a feeling they know what they’re in for.”

In “Being Miss America,” which will go on sale Sept. 1, just days before this year’s Miss America finals on Sept. 14, Shindle shares what she sees as “mismanagement and leadership instability” over the course of the organization’s history and unethical moves made to maintain television ratings and make money, including partnering with Children’s Miracle Network hospitals.

“Keep Children’s Miracle Network around; it’s a great group that does wonderful things. But stop balancing the books on the backs of kids with terminal illnesses. It’s not only ethically reprehensible, it’s borderline fraudulent,” she said.

Shindle explains that under the terms of the agreement with Children’s Miricle Network, Miss America herself is to serve as an ambassador for CMN during her year, and the Miss America Organization receives “reportedly as much as 60 percent” of the joint profit.

Shindle, a native of South Jersey who currently lives in New York City, said her goal wasn’t to write an expose.

“I love Miss America and I want it to succeed. This organization changed my whole life, it made (me) a really passionate activist and gave me literally a platform to bring awareness to my passions, and there aren’t many nonprofit organizations that can do that for a 20-year-old, but it becomes frustrating when it seems clear to an observer that there are issues,” she said.

Her mission said was to create a road map for how this organization has evolved as a nonprofit and where “I think it has to go.”

She writes: “If Miss America is to survive, she will not survive because the Almighty God of Television somehow brought her enough viewers and advertisers in one particular year, or even in a string of years. She will not survive because she successfully panders to the lowest common denominator; this approach is antithetical not only to building a brand, but to crafting Miss America’s brand in particular. Miss America will only survive if she decides exactly who she is, develops a lasting identity, and rejects the many temptations that run counter to that identity.

“But before any of that can occur, the organization needs to get its act together. Stop rewarding mediocrity. Let go of staff members who have been promoted to their level of incompetence. Organize the former Miss Americas who want to be involved, and send them out as ambassadors with a specific marketing message. The pageant has spent almost a century creating strong effective female leaders, but them it doesn’t really do much with them aside from inviting them to the show each year. It’s not only a waste of resources; it indicates that the people in charge don’t understand what the program accomplishes in the lives of very real women.”

As she predicted, the Miss America Organization isn’t too thrilled about the book.

In a statement to The Press of Atlantic City, officials said, “We have not had the chance to read the book. We were disappointed to learn from a reporter at the A.C. Press that a former Miss America, from 17 years ago, has chosen to take this path to advance whatever issues she might have.

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Subject: Sweetheart videos at http://www.newsbug.info/hoopeston_chronicle/sweetcorn_festival/


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Subject: Branding Problem


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Date Posted: 21:52:45 08/06/14 Wed

I saw another post you-know-where and because we know that the teens, their program, and everything about it is untouchable, I'll say it here.

Some people seem to think the title of "Miss America's Outstanding Teen" is lame, bad, etc. I wholeheartedly agree. I do understand that there are other systems with better names. But when I think of Miss America's Outstanding Teen, it just reminds me of the girl in high school that you hated. It doesn't even sound fun. It sounds like an overachiever, the one whose nose was in a book, who had to get into the best college, who was the president of everything. I almost think Sweetheart would be better, but that is also taken. Furthermore, I hate sitting through OT pageants because instead of referring to them as even City/County everything has to be said with "outstanding teen" at the end of it. I just think with a different name, it might be a better reception.

What would you like to see it be called? I think something that was lyrical, something maybe like "Miss America's Legacy" or "Miss America's Future".

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Subject: The Miss America pageant is in a few weeks and we can't get a decent picture of the current Miss America at the top of this board? In fact before the teen winner there were other random photos at the top. This board sure is unofficial alright but officially irrelevant.


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Subject: How Ironic Chris Harrison Asks Miss Alabama Who ended up winning a question


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Date Posted: 15:49:32 08/20/14 Wed

BTW Please dont ever call the girls in this slow method again.



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Subject: Is it true no state has a Tony Bowls gown yet? If so this is shocking.


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Date Posted: 10:00:11 08/18/14 Mon


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Subject: I wonder what's going on with the new MAOTeen?


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Date Posted: 18:59:37 08/15/14 Fri

During Rachel Wyatt's year as MAOT she created the Instagram Rachelmaoteen. When you are the national titleholder your are required to deactivate your Facebook account and any other personal social media.
However, I assume that since Instagram is just pictures with limited words she was able to get approval for an Instagram account. Probably because Instagram is a huge way that teens interact with each other and see what's going on with their friends. When Leah Sykes became MAOT Rachel turned over the account to her and changed the name of the Instagram to leahmaoteen.
Leah did an amazing job at communicating through this outlet and keeping everyone up to date all year with what she was doing.
On Saturday night when Leah crowned Olivia she posted one last time giving thanks, reflecting on her year and saying "Welcome to the sisterhood, this Instagram is officially yours. The name changed right away to Oliviamaoteen.
Many days pasted with no post at all from Oliviamaoteen. Not a "thank you" not a "wow I'm excited for the year ahead" nothing.
It seemed so odd considering that both Leah and Rachel were so active.
Then all of a sudden 2 days ago the Instagram name changed to maoteenorg. Olivia's name is gone.
Does anyone know why?

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Subject: 2015 Pageant Requests


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Date Posted: 07:42:10 08/17/14 Sun

After being bored I re watched the 2014 pageant and yes it was nice to see AC again. However, here is what I would like to see this year

1. Get Rid of the loser lounge , its old and outdated, I'm sure the girls dont like it

2. If you are going to have formers there at least show their faces, last year they scanned the camera after the contestants where doing their production number but you saw no one

3. Go back to live indoor introductions and stop saying I am______ your Miss_______Announce your age

4. If you are going to announce prelim talent winners who did make the cut, show them!!

5. Stop skipping the announcement of the 1st runner up. Give her her moment.

6. Stop making all the finalists get into their talent outfit only not to be called, thats very dissappointing

I'm sure there are other changes, but those were the ones that bugged me the most

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Subject: To the person who posted about Rob Richards on the other board


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Date Posted: 20:03:05 08/17/14 Sun

I am not the moderator, but please, post your picture here. It probably will not be deleted. I think it was cruel to delete that. And here's why.

Miss America DOES have a relationship with our men and women in service. Since the 1960s, there was a USO Troupe. Our Miss Americas have traveled overseas a few years ago to cheer up the troops. Countless cadets over the years have escorted our young women to their local and state pageants. Miss Americas have visited military bases all throughout their reigns. So, if we lose one of our special young men, we all grieve.

Post the picture, and I promise we will all respect him and post our condolences.

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Subject: What will happen if the contestants don't receive their gowns in time?


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Date Posted: 08:53:18 08/07/14 Thu

There has been a lot of talk about the problems with the Tony Bowls process. It is 35 or 36 days from the crowning of Miss America. I don't know specifics, but I have been hearing that some contestants haven't consulted with him, dresses are not ready, etc. Of course, the contestants that play the game will say that their experience has been wonderful, etc. But to me, this has been a disaster in waiting from day 1.

So, if a contestant has to leave for Atlantic City, and they do not have a gown, should their be a backup plan in place? If you were a contestant, would you take a gown along? At least your state gown? I almost think you would have to. I really don't believe this is going to go off. You can't POSSIBLY do 53 gowns well in that short amount of time. The only other option is that a contestant gets a Tony Bowls gown at a local shop at this point, and have the alterations there. From what I understand, the local shops are doing the alterations, anyway.

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Subject: TOP 10 Thread:


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Date Posted: 06:56:23 08/08/14 Fri

Alphabetical order:

1) Alabama
2) California
3) Connecticut
4) Florida
5) Georgia
6) Idaho
7) Mississippi
8) Oklahoma
9) Texas
10) Virginia

Miss America 2015--toss up between CT and FL!!

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Subject: Question for those of you in the know, how true is it that MAO is cleaning out Florida and bringing in Tel Air (Florida USA owners) to take it over. Tel Air has been all over the Florida board the past couple weeks and says "Jersey" is in talks with him to take over the state! As a former for both systems I cannot tell you how horrible this would be for MAO!


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Subject: One panel or two panels?


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Date Posted: 16:53:10 08/14/14 Thu

After changing it up last year, the MAO is back to having the same people judge prelims and the final telecast. Does it change things? Does it mean they were unhappy with the result last year?

I think I prefer the two-panels approach. That way, the judges see what the audience sees. The judges are working from the same information as the viewers and won't keep choosing someone with a weak SS or Talent or something because they fell in love with her interview, the interview the audience can't judge because they weren't there.

Given that the vast, vast, majority of the people who watch Miss America only have exposure to her the night they watch the show, picking a winner that makes sense to them probably helps ensure people still watch.

Also, no professional singers, dancers, or instrumentalists this year. That's new. I'd say it means talent won't matter, but honestly, when does it ever?

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Subject: MAOT 2015 Top 12


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Date Posted: 15:30:01 08/02/14 Sat

1. PC - North Dakota
2. PC - Virgin Islands
3. Colorado
4. Virginia
5. Nebraska
6. Georgia
7. Michigan
8. Pennsylvania
9. Texas
10. Florida
11. Tennessee
12. Alabama

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Date Posted: 10:31:12 08/14/14 Thu

Before a major kerfluffle happens, can you please confirm if Lee Meriwether judged Marina Inserra or not? Now granted, the tin foil hat people are not going to believe you anyway, but perhaps reasonable minds will get what you are saying.

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Subject: Judges


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Date Posted: 16:34:33 08/12/14 Tue

Has anyone heard anything about judges yet? There are 32 days until the pageant, and the contestants leave in about 2.5 weeks. Usually they have announced it on GMA in the past. I even checked the MAO site and they don't even announce that they are having an announcement. Didn't we usually know by now in years past?

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Subject: Washington State finances in disarray?


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Date Posted: 14:05:14 07/28/14 Mon

As a long time supporter of the Miss America and Washington programs I was alarmed when I received an email with very disturbing contents showing documents that support concerns on the financials of the MWSO organization. Based on censorship and unresponsiveness at the state level I would like to “hold the feet to the fire” of the Miss America organization to address these concerns by posting this on the message board. Here are the contents of the letter in the email. If you care about the Miss America program and want to preserve the integrity of the program these concerns need to be fully addressed and not swept under the carpet. . I dread having the media turn a spotlight on this issue before it is resolved.
To the MWSO Board of Directors:
Four sets of Miss Washington Scholarship Org. (MWSO) financial documents for the year ending 2012 are enclosed (UBI 60198600). Part of the documents were provided at the fall meeting while others are public documents.
NONE of the 2012 financial figures match. The total income, expense and net gain/loss figures do not match.
“A” = The 2012 IRS 990 tax filing states a $10,000 net loss.
“B” = The 2012 income and expense report provided by your president to other states a $10,000 net gain ($20,000 difference, along with a myriad of line item discrepancies (see report for list of discrepancies).
“C” = the 2012 Miss America report states a $25,000 net gain. (a $35,000 difference from the IRS form)
“D” = Secretary of State Charities Division application states yet another set of 2012 income and expense figures.
Which document is factual? Is it the 2012 report sent to the Miss America office stating $25,000 net GAIN or the IRS 2012 filing of a net LOSS of $10,000? Or is it the 2012 income and expense report of $10,000 GAIN? Has the board been apprised of these discrepancies? If so, has anything been done to have an open review of the books to find out what other discrepancies there are.
A not-for-profit board of directors should be receiving regular financial reports that match the monthly bank account to unequivocally confirm no egregious mistakes or fraud is occurring on the board’s watch. In MWSO’s case it has been 7-8 years of no financial reports provided.
The questions surrounding the lack of transparency have become widely known to the MWSO family and is spreading beyond our community. Amid concerns that state agencies are now being asked to look into MWSO’s practices, it is incumbent upon you to insist on having an independent outside audit performed of the books for the past several years, and to take appropriate action based on the findings of the report. Doing so prior to a state agency becoming involved will help diffuse the board’s inaction and I hope provide you some personal legal cover.
Please know that Directors and Officers insurance does not provide any legal cover when directors have not done their job of forcing transparency in the face of none. Board inaction relieves D&O insurance companies from covering board member. Retiring from the board also does not provide cover. Directors are held responsible for any years they were involved.
As a director, “trusting” alone is very problematic. A board’s fiduciary responsibility is to verify, not simply trust. With people privately questions why the board has stayed quiet on something so vital, it’s imperative you now become the majority vote and take a stand for financial openness and transparency.
It is my understanding that the Washington Scholarship Foundation (WSF) has asked MWSO for financials, (your only 501©3 charitable option for sponsors) but MWSO leadership has declined. If WSF terminates their relationship with MWSO, it not only looks suspect to the pageant family, but to the sponsors and community at large.
For your own sake, it is imperative that you restore the financial integrity and transparency of the organization.
CC: (For transparency, you may forward)
MWSO Local’s Association Executive Board
Miss Washington’s Outstanding Teen Co-Executive Director
Miss Washington Alumni Association President
Washington Scholarship Foundation President
Miss America Organization

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Subject: Help me understand this board, please


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Date Posted: 16:57:09 08/08/14 Fri

Why/how are old threads bumped and there's no new material in them? I'm looking at one that had the last post in July - yet it appears towards the top, while one that had a post today is several threads below. How does this happen?

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Subject: Do you people need a sky writer before you get the message?


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Date Posted: 17:18:19 07/28/14 Mon

These are the two IP addresses from which all the anti-Smith posts originate.

ip70-180-176-117.lv.lv.cox.net/70.180.176.117

ip68-104-47-45.lv.lv.cox.net/68.104.47.45

It will not be tolerated. You will be permanently banned if I see another post going after the Smiths.

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Subject: Now that MAOT is over,when can we expect a new board for Miss Nevada and NVOT? I noticed the local scheduled for this month has been put on hold...


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Subject: Just to clarify. Nowhere in ANY state contract is there an exception to the NO COMPETE clause. As of a year or so ago, ALL STATE CONTRACTS in the MAO are the same. They state that once a contestant wins a local title they are NOT allowed to hold any other title in any other pageant system. There are no exceptions. All contestants sign this contract. As a result, if a MAO titleholder won their state while also holding another title in another system, the MAO would NOT allow her to compete at the national level. It's all in writing, you can find it on many of the state websites. These "verbal Okays" by state boards to compete regardless of other titles is unethical and goes against their state contracts.


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Subject: MAOT Awards- Congeniality


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Date Posted: 20:51:59 08/02/14 Sat

I don't know all of the award winners from the post pageant festivities. However, I did find out who congeniality is and felt the need to share it here.

Miss Congeniality at MAOT was Miss Nevada's Outstanding Teen. That's right. Amy Smith won congeniality. If that doesn't speak volumes about herself, as well as all of the teens that stood by her side through this whole ordeal, I don't know what does.

Please keep this in mind next time you want to bash any other teenager, especially (but not only) this one. If 53 teenagers can stick together through craziness and still stay supportive of each other, who are we to judge and be hateful behind an anonymous message board?

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Subject: Great article about the new MAOT


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Date Posted: 13:22:24 08/04/14 Mon

http://www.macon.com/2014/07/31/3227240/grisamore-northside-high-senior.html

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Subject: I was banned from guru for saying I can't believe Nina said Mallory was fat...... LOL


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Subject: Awards at OT


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Date Posted: 19:50:08 08/02/14 Sat

Photogenic: Miss VT OT
Non-finalist Interview: Miss AR OT
Teens In Action award: Miss NV OT
Congeniality: Miss NV OT (very happy about this, given the past week)

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Subject: Does anyone think Smith will place in top 10 or 5?


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Subject: New Topic: the Miss contestants


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Date Posted: 18:09:35 08/01/14 Fri

There's two reasons I'm posting this here: One, if you don't agree with the general consensus on guru, you can get torn to shreads and two, I'd like to delve into lots of discussion about the Miss contestants that has nothing to do with the Nevada OT situation.

So today, as I'm sure many of you know is the by day between prelims and finals for the teens. It's also the day that the miss contestants get to spend the day at Disney World. These girls were on the bus headed to Disney World at 6:00 am. That's right. They had 14 hours put in today enjoying the park, filming for their pageant and showing their Disney Side. Of course in the midst of that, there was plenty of social media posting done. After scoping out many, many Instagram accounts, I finally felt like I got some girls. I got to see what they really look like. I got to see personality. And let me just say, I loved it. I so wish I could post photos but unfortunately, I will never be able to do that on these boards.

So anyways, a couple of girls caught my eye and I want to focus on the good from what I saw today. So here are my standouts as of now:

Georgia- In all honesty, I wasn't a fan of Maggie's until today. I wanted to like her so much but I just couldn't. But in the pics I saw of her today, she seemed fun! I wanted to be around her. And on top of that, as the transition of the day came and her hair went from down to up (I'm assuming thanks to the hot weather and being outside for so long) I found her much more appealing. In what is considered the "hot and sweaty" state, she looked so naturally beautiful and that is a hard feat to pull off. So I'm happy to say, I'm now on the Maggie bandwagon and if she can channel the personality I saw at Miss America, I can see her going very far.

New York- Kira is another one I just haven't gotten. Then all of a sudden I see her pics out and about today and I got it. She, too, seems to have such a fun-loving personality and I could totally see her pulling a three-peat for NY. She even took a chance and wore Bermuda shorts today, instead of the typical, mid-thigh to shorter shorts the girls usually wear and poked fun at herself for it. She has exuded confidence this week and her styling has been on point for the most part and definitely rememberable. I'm glad to say this beauty has proved me wrong too!

Florida- I didn't really know much about Victoria until she was Miss Florida and Elizabeth Fechtel wasn't. And I adored Fechtel all the way back to her teen days. But Victoria has looked stunning in Orlando and stood out just as much in candids. I'm expecting great things out of this girl.

Oklahoma- I know nothing about Alex. Absolutely nothing but what I've read on pageant boards. And most of it has said she had a weak talent. Throw in the fact that I have been a fan of her look at all this week and I started to think "is this really Oklahoma?" But then I saw candids today and am starting to change my tune. Alex is quite a beauty in natural light and I expect she will convey that perfectly once September hits. Throw in a video of her dancing with Prince Charming and I'm sold. I suspect the naysayers are wrong and she'll make OK proud.

So who are some of your new favorites after this week?

Take a chance to check out the girls Instagram accounts, too, if you get the chance!

Note: These aren't my only faves, but they stood out to me the most out of what I saw today.

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Subject: Miss Teen USA


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Date Posted: 17:10:51 08/02/14 Sat

Erin Brady hosting!

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Subject: Another article


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Date Posted: 04:01:08 07/25/14 Fri

By MIKE WEATHERFORD
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
They crowned the wrong teen queen. Now two Nevada girls may be headed to Miss America’s Outstanding Teen Pageant in Orlando, Fla.

After parents of other contestants challenged the results and pushed for an audit, national pageant officials agreed there were “scoring irregularities” in the June 1 state competition that crowned 15-year-old Amy Smith of Henderson as Miss Nevada’s Outstanding Teen.

Contestants including Smith begin gathering in Orlando Friday for the contest that culminates Aug. 2.

A news release attributed to Donna Bozarth, chairman of the pageant’s national board, said the “unfortunate situation” has resulted in the decision that “there could be two winners,” and that “each of them individually would receive the recognition and awards for being Miss Nevada’s Outstanding Teen and would compete separately in the national competition in Orlando.”

However, the rightful winner — said to be Haleyann Hart of Henderson — was not named in the release, and only Smith and her family had agreed to the proposal on Thursday.

“An agreement has not yet been reached with the other young lady, but we are hopeful that a resolution can be reached so that she can participate in the national competition and represent the state of Nevada as well,” the statement continued.

Hart’s mother, Marcia Cope-Hart, said Thursday she could not comment on the situation.

Amy’s father, Rick Smith, was traveling to Orlando on Thursday but emailed a statement to the Review-Journal. “Amy was crowned Miss Nevada’s Outstanding Teen on June 1. Since that time she has continued uninterrupted in that capacity and will represent the State in the national (pageant). Other questions are beyond me, and would need to be directed to national organization.”

Amy Hacker, state executive director of the Miss Nevada Organization, could not be reached for comment Thursday.

The state competition already was newsworthy for the rarity of having two sisters win twin titles. Ellie Smith, a previous Miss Nevada Outstanding Teen, was crowned Miss Nevada in the competition for ages 17 through 24 and will go on to compete in the Miss America pageant.

The sisters live in Henderson but traveled to Elko to compete in a less-crowded preliminary, the Miss Northeast Nevada Contest.

When Amy Smith also won the state finals competition held at the Las Vegas Academy, parents and other pageant officials challenged the results based on several factors. Primarily, Hart was the announced winner of the teen talent award, so the proportionate percentage of scoring for that award should automatically have placed her among the five top finalists.

Instead, the five finalists excluded Hart and included three 13-year-old first-year contestants, which parents cited as another red flag.

After the contest, it was determined that Hart won the interview portion of the competition as well.

In a July 17 letter obtained by the Review-Journal, Bozarth told parents: “I have spoken to most of you in the past 2 days with the news that there was a scoring error due to an incorrect ballot being used in the Scholastic Achievement portion of the competition. When our national auditor in Orlando reviewed the ballots for a re-audit of the scores, he immediately noticed the error because the scores were so inflated.

“Our auditor, using the original ballots, re-entered the Private Interview, Lifestyle and Fitness in Sportswear, Talent, and Evening Wear & Onstage Question on to the tally sheet. He then entered the correct Scholastic Achievement Scores, which resulted in a different top 5.”

Contact reporter Mike Weatherford at mweatherford@reviewjournal.com or 702-383-0288.

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Subject: Current Miss Favorites...


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Date Posted: 13:37:33 08/01/14 Fri

Top 5

TX
MS
CT
CA
ID

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Subject: I'm trying to find out how to get access to the MAOT webcast tonight. Also, when does it start?


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Subject: Just a thought, but maybe all state pageants should be held by May 1st.


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Subject: New article in Review Journal... Only one Nevada teen competing in national pageant


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Date Posted: 20:49:07 07/29/14 Tue

By MIKE WEATHERFORD
LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL
An unusual offer to have two Nevada teens compete side by side in Miss America’s Outstanding Teen Pageant did not come to pass, leaving only one Nevada contestant in Orlando, Fla., this week.

Last week, national pageant officials confirmed “scoring irregularities” resulted in the wrong winner being named Miss Nevada’s Outstanding Teen. The proposed answer was to declare “two winners” and to invite the second one to compete separately in the national pageant with previously announced winner Amy Smith of Henderson. But on Tuesday, a statement from Steve Frocchi, the pageant’s vice president of marketing and business development, said, “We have one representative from each state.”

A July 20 email shared with the Review-Journal, attributed to Donna Bozarth, chairwoman of the pageant’s national board, states the actual winner is Haleyann Hart and Smith is runner-up.

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Subject: You all wonder why everyone goes to the Guru board and it's because MNOT is still being discussed. What's happening at MAOT?!


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Date Posted: 23:41:40 07/31/14 Thu


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Subject: Since you're NOT allowed to express an honest opinion on GURU:


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Date Posted: 07:25:26 07/30/14 Wed

Re Miss candids:

Oklahoma--very pretty but looks 37.
Connecticut--very beautiful face and hair.
Texas--pretty but disappointing.
West Virginia--NOT pretty at all
North Dakota--OK--hair is too much
New York--seems like a nice girl but very strange looking face.
Louisiana--NOT a looker to say the least.
Mississippi--hair looks great but her eyes are weird looking.
Minnesota--no.
Oregon-cute but mousey looking.
Virginia--I like her a lot.
North Carolina--NOT pretty.
Ohio-ok, that's it.

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Subject: Who looks good for MAOT talent tonight for prelim #1?


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Date Posted: 15:04:28 07/29/14 Tue


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Subject: Capitalization of Phases of Competition for a Pageant Script


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Date Posted: 15:12:32 07/30/14 Wed

So, I have a strange question, but being the perfectionist I am, I need some insight from some of you grammar experts regarding some capitalization rules. I am writing a script for our local pageant, and I'm wondering what letters (if any) in the different phases of competition should be capitalized. For example: if the sentence read, "We now present our contestants in the Lifestyle and Fitness in Swimsuit Competition." Should all those letters be capitalized? Or should it be "We now present our contestants in the Lifestyle and Fitness in Swimsuit competition." Or is it acceptable to write "We now present our contestants in the lifestyle and fitness in swimsuit competition." In my mind, none of the letters should be capitalized. I referenced the Miss America judging manual, and they were very inconsistent with what words were and weren't capitalized. I know that the only person reading the script is the emcee, but I've just been hung up with this, and want to know what is the correct form to be consistent throughout the entire script. Thanks for your help!

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Subject: Does anyone have any predictions for night two prelim winners at MAOT?


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Date Posted: 19:15:50 07/29/14 Tue


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Subject: Solution to NV OT situation


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Date Posted: 13:41:09 07/26/14 Sat

I posted this on Guru but it was taken off in 10 minutes.
However, in all fairness, I think it was because someone posted a bad reply. I was not banned. It was gone before I saw the whole thing
but they had already forced me to pull out my "Angry" emoticon and trust me, I don't do that often.
In any regard, my solution to the NV OT fiasco, if of course, I was the national ED would be this....
First off, fire the entire existing NV committee. Second, cancel all upcoming local OT pageants. Third, send Smith to compete this year since she has already been crowned. Next year crown the other girl in a special ceremony on the Miss Nevada stage to give her her "moment", then send her to nationals. The upside for the second girl would be she would have and entire year to get prepared, plus you could order the NV committee to pay the entire wardrobe/trip expense for the girl and her family.
Well, I think that about wraps this up. Got another problem for me to solve?

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Subject: My prediction of what will occur


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Date Posted: 15:39:57 07/26/14 Sat

Only Amy Smith will represent NV at the pageant.
The true winner's lawyer will file a huge lawsuit against MAOT and Amy Hacker on the first prelim day.
The media will converge and will want to know what Amy Smith, her parents and Amy Hacker (all of whom at in Orlando) knew.
The true winner will go on all the national shows and tell her story. We will learn she won every single category, but was not included in the final ballot.
The Smith family will file a huge lawsuit after both daughters do nothing at their national pageants.
MAO will lose a lot of money.

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Subject: Dear Moderator, Are you really going to let the I Hate Amy person continue to run your message board? Can we move onto other things please?


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Date Posted: 16:03:52 07/28/14 Mon


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Subject: Letter from Donna Bozarth July 20th....(more MNOT info, winner announcement)


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Date Posted: 15:54:59 07/27/14 Sun

First, I would like to apologize to all of you for the incredible confusion and heartache this unnecessary incident has caused. Please be assured that there has not been a minute in the past 72 hours and beyond that I was not trying to bring this terrible situation to a fair conclusion. After hours of working with our attorney, we have determined that there is really no fair way to settle this but we have chosen what we feel is the fairest.
I am pleased to announce the following placement of the teens from the ballot on Saturday, July 19, 2014:
Winner – Haleyann Hart
1st RU – Amy Smith
2nd RU – Baylee Bernstein
3rd RU – Nasya Mancini
4th RU – Lauren Watson
Each of these teens will receive the prizes as announced at the pageant held in June. I believe the scholarship prizes are listed in the program book.
There will be an announcement in the next few days regarding Haleyann and Amy.
CONGRATULATIONS TO EACH OF THESE OUTSTANDING TEENS!!! Donna Bozarth

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Subject: Hope this isn't deleted again....Wow


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Date Posted: 21:49:56 07/27/14 Sun

Standing up for what's right these days and doing the right thing doesn't always prevail but, it looks as if progress is being made of this very messy matter. Now let's start looking more into the NV Miss also.

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Subject: Letter from Donna Bozarth July 17th (regarding MAOT, more info)


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Date Posted: 18:39:05 07/27/14 Sun

July 17, 2014

Dear Miss Nevada’s Outstanding Teen Parents,

I have spoken to most of you in the past 2 days with the news that there was a scoring error due to an incorrect ballot being used in the Scholastic Achievement portion of the competition. When our national auditor in Orlando reviewed the ballots for a re-audit of the scores, he immediately noticed the error because the scores were so inflated.
Our auditor, using the original ballots, re-entered the Private Interview, Lifestyle and Fitness in Sportswear, Talent, and Evening Wear & Onstage Question on to the tally sheet. He then entered the correct Scholastic Achievement Scores, which resulted in a different Top 5.
As we spoke of yesterday, the decision was made to have the correct Top 5 re-compete in front of the original judges and have the judges rank the correct Top 5 from 1 to 5.
Every effort has been made to bring the original 5 judges back to Nevada on Sunday to participate in this competition. Unfortunately, we are having difficulty getting this done on such short notice, although 3 of the 5 have committed to be available on Sunday and have already made their travel arrangements.
After consulting with counsel, we feel that it is not advisable to do this with only 3 of the 5 original judges. Counsel has suggested that we make arrangements for the following:
• A new final ballot will be produced with the correct Top 5 names.
• An independent auditor will send the ballots to the original five judges via email along with
instructions.
• The judges will individually rank the 5 contestants in the order they choose.
• The ballots will be returned to the auditor who will then send the decision to me.
• At that point, an announcement will be made regarding the results.
• If there is a change in the winner’s position, arrangements will be made to crown the winner.
Please keep in mind that these 5 judges have already seen all of the contestants in each phase of the competition.
Each of the Top 5 will receive the prizes that were given to the original top 5. The original Top 5 will keep all prizes.
I realize this is yet another change in an effort to be as fair as possible to everyone. We greatly appreciate your patience as we strive to right this wrong and maintain the integrity of the Miss America’s Outstanding Teen Organization.
Sincerely,
Donna Bozarth
Miss America’s Outstanding Teen, Inc.

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Subject: Miss West Virginia and Miss West Virginia's Outstanding Teen


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Date Posted: 17:37:51 07/27/14 Sun



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Subject: OKay......fun post and survey


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Date Posted: 06:39:58 07/26/14 Sat

Well, it seems you haven't really arrived until you've been BANNED (at least once) by the fool running the Guru board....maybe we need to start a support group. LOL!! So, on that note, post here if you've been banned by Guru and for what "offense." Ready, set, go!!

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Subject: A message to all


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Date Posted: 03:54:09 07/24/14 Thu

I've been trying to decide what to do about allowing the posts about NV on the board without anything official being sent out. I decided to give a lot of leeway, but someone is now taking it too far. I will allow discussion about this. I will not allow this board to be used to shame a teenager into giving up her crown when it appears she has a legal right to keep it. This is for the lawyers to fight, not someone on a crusade. And I say someone because 95% of the things said about this girl and her family is coming from one poster. You can discuss it, but leave the teens alone.

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Subject: Guru and the Nevada mess?!?!?!


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Date Posted: 14:47:14 07/23/14 Wed

Anybody else wondering if the Guru mod may somehow be involved in the Nevada mess? Mighty odd that every single mention is removed--and a friend just told me she has been banned for asking an innocent question about how they'd handle two OTs. Nothing inflammatory, just a simple question. Maybe some of this is hitting close to home??? Perhaps friendships are at stake here?? Perhaps favors are being called in???

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Subject: Absolutely! If the ED eliminated 3 of the 5 top five just to get a result of the girl she wanted as a winner, what do you suppose she probably did to the Miss contestants?? Hmmm, not to hard to figure out, right?


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Date Posted: 15:57:51 07/22/14 Tue


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Subject: Miss Nevada investgation


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Date Posted: 14:15:46 07/24/14 Thu

Finally!!! There is another news source reporting on this so important story. If you google Vegasinc you will find the article about the two teens competing in the MNOT and about how haileyanne was indeed leading the scoring in the competition. It's amazing to me that they don't even mention the name Hailey at all....yet we all know who their talking about. Unbelievable what's going on here. Truth is getting out there!!!

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Subject: Cinderella Internationals


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Date Posted: 23:39:42 07/23/14 Wed

Could someone explain the judging system at Cinderella Int'ls? I don't quite understand how they do it if they don't use points when there are 75 or so contestants in a division.

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Subject: What the Nevada decisions could mean to MAO


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Date Posted: 06:50:19 07/24/14 Thu

If indeed MAO/MAOT has allowed the original winner and the leader after prelims to both compete at nationals, doesn't it hurt their other decisions this season?
Miss DE and CO's OT both had their titles removed because of not fulfilling age requirements. Both clearly stated their ages and were okay by state (and in DE's case local) boards. They were not given an exception.
Miss FL was removed because of a tabulation error. Her state director knew about this for days, but still allowed Elizabeth to drop out of school and make significant changes in her life. Elizabeth wasn't given an exception.
Now, NVOT crowns a girl who was the clear points leader after prelims and who the Teen Director removed from the Top Five list. She was rightfully given the title, but the announced winner, who most likely wouldn't have beaten her in the final ballot is allowed to keep her title.
Why was she given an exception?
And more importantly, will MAOT/MAO making that exception not weaken their cases in all the other decisions they have made this summer.
I forsee more lawsuits and two Miss DEs being allowed to compete.

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Subject: How can this be?


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Date Posted: 12:14:04 07/23/14 Wed

If both the actual winner and the original winner of Nevada OT can compete, why can't both Miss Floridas compete?

Why are they letting the name NVOT compete when she wasn't the actual winner?

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Subject: Mallory named one of the 30 Under 30, changing the face of fitness


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Date Posted: 18:35:40 07/21/14 Mon

http://www.fitocracy.com/knowledge/30-under-30-the-young-professionals-changing-the-face-of-fitness/

Way to go, Mallory!

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Subject: Miss Nevada investigation


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Date Posted: 08:19:04 07/22/14 Tue

The Smith Sisters also did indeed know the rules and broke many of them. Sharing the same hotel room....Abuse of cell phones...etc. There will be much more to come on this stuff, believe me. Oh, and the MAO shouldn't be as worried about a lawsuit from the smith Sisters as they should about a class action lawsuit from the other parents. Do the right thing!! Take there Crowns. They did not win fairly.

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Subject: what's the latest with the NVOT saga?


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Date Posted: 12:22:23 07/22/14 Tue

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Subject: Miss DCOT, Cydney Taylor Hill is raising money to help offset the costs of traveling to Orlando to compete. Her mother has been diagnosed with breast cancer for the third time and any little bit of money would be greatly appreciated. To donate or read her story, visit this link: http://www.gofundme.com/DCOutstandingTeen (NT)


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Date Posted: 08:10:18 07/23/14 Wed


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