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Date Posted: 16:54:45 02/15/18 Thu
Author: Knut Holt
Subject: Polls with stories about clabdestine medical ordeals



CASE REPORTS TO BE FOUND BELOW THE LINKS
Interesting polls about events in childhood, teenhood and adulthood

By Knut Holt

http://www.panteraconsulting.com/salg2b1.htm

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You can use these polls to tell your own history or the history of someone you know about. If the lonks are not active, please copy them and use them in the address fields of your browser.
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Extended, mandatory well-child examination under anesthesia - where the kid undergo endoscopic inspections in the intimate zone and other body areas, extensive ultrasound inspections, ex-rays of several body zones, intrusive specimen collection and body function testings:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395

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Poll about cystoscopy or bladder inspections in kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/615327

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Secret, intimate, intrusive medical exams and procedures under anesthesia on kids and adults:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976

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Called in for a strange physical or psycological exam:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/605807


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Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events, like abduction for surveillance and experimentation by governments or mafias

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/616524

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Americans- please tell in my unbiased poll who you would vote for if rhe presidential election was today

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/621050

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All the polls also have a message board. The individual stories of each participant will be published here. Here you can add comments or ask questions.


Knut Holt

aquila_grande@yahoo.no

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm


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SOME OF THE STORIES I HAVE COLLECTED
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Boy, North America, cystosocpy combined with examination of anus and colon

I had cystoscopy - I am male. The exam took place in North America. dsf 12 years old. Before 1960. Had cystoscopy in a health centre.

PREPARATIONS

Got no explanation. The exam was a total surprize. sdfg Had to stop eating several hours before the cystoscopy. Given laxatives at home before the exam. Got to a special preparation room. Had to undress completely and go to bed. Given enema during preparations. The whole bed was rolled with me upon when the time for the exam had come. Taken vitals like temperature heart rate and blood pressure.

God lubricating and pain-killing fluid inserted in through the pee-hole. Was totally naked during exam. Lay on back with legs in stirrups.

HOW THEY EXAMINED ME

They put a rigid stick-like cystoscope in through the urethra. They put a flexible snake-like cystoscope in through the urethra. They pumped up and irrigated bladder with water when looking inside. They took out the scope and inserted a new scope to take further specimens. The scope or a new intrument was inserted even further up towards the kindeys.

They also used an ultrasond probe on the stomach to inspect the bladder area. They inserted an ultrasond probe in through the anus to inspect the bladder and genital area. They made an ultrasound exam of the scrotum and testicles.

They inspected the whole colon - full colonoscopy.


ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

Had catheter in the bladder some time after the exam. Had to stay in bed some hours after the exam. Got medicines into urethra with a syringe after the exam.


DIAGNOSIS AND FOLLOW-UP

Diagnosis - low bladder capasity. Got mediaction for infection. The reason was problems with urination.


JUDGEMENT

It was humiliating or awful.



COMMENTS

What is reportet as a flexible scope was probably a tube used to pump in fluid to test the bladder capacity and reaction.

What is reported as full colonoscopy was probably a tibe inserted and inflated to test the reactions in the colon.

Flexible scopes were not in use before 1960, and therefore the things reported was probably some other things.

Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm



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I am female.It happened in Latin America.1980-1989, 11 year old12 years old13 years old14 years old15 years oldMy parents just took me I don't know about any information.My parents drove me to the exam.At a regular hospital.Children that had been treated or examined by a psychologist or psychiatrist beforehand.All children that have shown more than just standard interest for sexual matters.Children with some kind of unusual bahavior or interests.Children in foster care homes or the like.It was in Venezuela. I knew some kids from a local orphanage from my school and all of them were there in addition to all of us who had been caught having private conversations and explorations of sex.


PREPARATIONS AND ANESTHESIA

They washed my body before the exam.I was totally naked through all the procedures.The staff took my clothes of some time before the anesthesia had made its effect.I had to strip totally naked before the exam.They placed me upon something like a dentist's chair but with devices to lift my legs onto.I was placed to lay on my back with my legs flexed up spread and mounted upon two devices.I got electrodes on my cheast.I got electrodes on my stomach or hip region.I got something to swallow.I got anesthesia gas to breath in through a mask.The anesthesia only took away pain.The anesthesia made me relaxed but I was conscious.I was mostly awake during the procedure despite anesthesia given.

They took groups of us boys and girls into each examination room took all of our clothes off of us (and took them away out of the room) and sat us in these chairs with our legs held up and ankles strapped in. We were given a small paper cup of liquid and just a brief inhale of gas from a mask. We could all see each other's genitals clearly. The first thing they did after the anaesthesia was to wash all of our bodies with washcloths then they shaved all of our pubic hair off.

EXAMINATION WITH EXTERNAL EQUIPMENT

They performed an analysis of my breathing and oxygen uptake where I had to breath into a tube.I had to do some physical work like cycling or running on a threadmill when the ECG and breathing analysis was performed.They examined my genitals with an ultrasound device.They had electrodes at my genitals to record functions in this area.


INTERNAL EXAMINATIONS

They used a speculum in my vagina.They inspected my vagina with a scope.They inspected my anus with a speculum.The doctor explored my vagina with a finger.The doctor explored my anus with a finger.They also looked inside mouth and ears like a standard exam.


SOCIAL INTERRROGATION COMBINED WITH TESTING OF PSYCHOLOGICAL AND BODILY REATCTIONS

They spent a lot of time rubbing my vagina and touching my lips as well as massaging my breasts and pinching my nipples. I saw them doing something similar to the boys in the room to their genitals. They also touched our legs a lot.

I had electrodes on my body.I lay with my legs in stirrups some time after the exam. We spent a long long time in the examination room naked with our legs elevated asking us a great deal of questions about sex and our experiences. They measured our response to this asked if we got aroused easily and what happened to our body when we did.

There was also measuring and talking about our development (when was first period etc)Finally the beds were adjusted so we could sit up but our ankles still held in and legs still spread. We were instructed to look at each other thoroughly. Those who had to pee they brought a glass jar and had them pee into it.

HOW THE ORDEAL ENDED

As we were let out they told us now we have seen each other's bodies we shouldn't worry about covering up if we're changing clothes or something. All of us were led out of the examination room and taken home without getting dressed (they gave our clothes to our parents) and then I went home with my parents.I attended ordinary daytime school.It was a pretty poor school. Attendance was low for everyone.


COMMENTS

This seemed to be a general health exam combined with a surveillance of habits, reactions and social relations, and children that the society thought was of some risk were selected for the exam. It looks however that the staff exaggerated the intimate testings for own sexual gratification.

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Girls, school-age to teens, body-focused psychological exam and therapy

I am a female. I was a school-aged child and teenager. Year 1970 - 1979. In North America. I was examined in a health centre. It was a psychological clinic. My dad brought me the first time and sometimes Mom brought me but often I biked. Who did the exam? My therapist. Who was also present during the exam? Sometimes nurses sometimes my parents but sometimes nobody else.


IVERVIEW OF THE EXAM

They examined my head teeth or jaws. They did an orthopedic exam. They examined my genitals. They examined my rectal zone. They did a general examination of my pelvic zones.

They performed a psychological exam. The main focus was psychological examination.


ARRANGEMENTS

I was totally naked. My positions during the exam: Mostly sat in a chair or laid on a couch. Often would be asked to spread my legs and expose myself. It was just a normal psychology office, though.


THE ORDEAL STEP BY STEP

First they nsisted I get undressed. Then have a long detailed talk about the human body being beautiful and it being okay to be naked. Thirdly go over all my body parts discussing their names and functions. As I got more comfortable other people were brought in to look at me. I was observed while taking a pee The exam ended this way: always told I was welcome to walk around nude in the waiting room for a while before leaving. Over the years the psychological therapy got deeper and I was photographed to show my body changing.


PURPOSE AND OPINION

What do you think was the reason for this exam? I guess to make me not care about being nude? What is your opinion about this experience? I'm glad now but it was very embarrassing when I started. Now if anyone wants to see me I'm happy to.


MORE ABOUT THE SYCHOLOGICAL EXAM

They made interrogations about my social relations and my daily life. My therapist wanted to know every time I had been naked when I stopped bathing with family etc.


INTIMATE CHECKS

Someone other person came and performed an intimate exam even though I was called in for quite another reason.
The skin exams seemed separate from the psychological exams but I always got both.

They spread my genital lips to look inside. They examined my vagina with a speculum. Encouraged to masturbate if I felt like it. Showed pictures of my open vagina so I could see.

They spread my cheeks and examined extarnally my rectal zone. They examined my rectum with an inserted finger. Showed me pictures of my own anus since that's hard to see yourself.

I was given a lot of water so they could watch me pee.


OBSERVATIONS

The exam took a very long time. These exams usually went on for 4-5 hours.


FOLLOW-UPS

New exams as follow up. Twice a month from ages 12 to 16 Psychological or social counceling as follow up. My parents started going naked around the house and told me to do it as well.


COMMENTS

The girl possibly had shame and psychological bad attitudes towards own body and the body of others and that made it difficult for her with relationships and curbed bodily functions. The ordeals seemed to have the purpose of giving her a positive relation to own body and thereby solve these problems.

The ordeals seem to have given the wanted positive effect. But the staff possibly exaggerated the therapy sessions for own sexual gratification.

Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm




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Boy, 10yo, North America - cystosopy combined with sigmoidoscopy

I had cystoscopy - I am male. The exam took place in North America. usa 10 years old. Before 1960. Had cystoscopy in a health centre. Got now explanation. The exam was a total surprize.

PREPARATION AND ARRANGEMENTS

Had to stop eating several hours before the cystoscopy. Got to a special preparation room. Had to undress completely and go to bed. Given enema during preparations. Had to walk by myself to the exam. Taken vitals like temperature heart rate and blood pressure. God lubricating and pain-killing fluid inserted in through the pee-hole. Was totally naked during exam. Lay on back with legs in stirrups.

HOW THE EXAM WAS PERFORMED

They put a rigid stick-like cystoscope in through the urethra. They took out the scope and inserted a new scope to take further specimens. The scope or a new intrument was inserted even further up towards the kindeys. They inserted an ultrasond probe in through the anus to inspect the bladder and genital area. They inspected with a scope some way up into the colon - sigmoidoscopy.

ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

Had catheter in the bladder some time after the exam. Got mediaction for infection. Other reasons for the cystoscopy please comment. It was painful.


COMMENTS

Ultrasound equipent was not in common use at that time, so what is reported as ultrasound wos probably some kind of speculum inserted before a longer scope was used in the anus.

It is recommended that all boys that has had an urinary infection shall have cystosopy and it is possible that cystosopy combined with sigmoidoscopy was even mandatory for all boys, and possibly also girls, at that age in this community. One also frequently find some problems to be treated by these examinations.

Even though these exams are rather inrusive, they can be perfomed nearly painless with local anesthesia, light sedation and gentle approch, so the doctor was probably somewhat clumpsy.

Knut Holt

http://www.mydeltapi.com


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Girl, Western Euope, Periodic gynecological exams fro 8yo-15yo

I am female. It happened in Western Europe. 1970-1979, 8 years old 9 years old 10 years old 11 year old 12 years old 13 years old 14 years old 15 years old. I wasn't given any advance notice by my parents My parents drove me to the exam at a special establishment used for these type of exams. All children that have shown more than just standard interest for sexual matters had these ordeals.

ARRANGEMENTS

I was totally naked through all the procedures. They placed me upon something like a dentist's chair but with devices to lift my legs onto. I got something to swallow.


EXTERNAL EXAMS:

I cannot remember such tests. I cannot remember any external procedures like those mentioned.
INTERNAL EXAMINATIONS

They used a speculum in my vagina. The doctor explored my vagina with a finger. The doctor explored my anus with a finger.

ARRANGEMENTS AFTER THE EXAM

I lay naked under a blanket after the exam. I was naked in hospital all day. My parents picked me up and


THE SCHOOL I INTENDED

I attended ordinary daytime school.


COMMENTS

It looks like this community subjected all kids, of whome behavior they were concerbed, to periodic pelvic examinations, which for girls got the shape of a standrad gynecological exam. It seems like she got some kind of light anesthesia and that more than reported was done, but that she does not remember because of the anesthesia.

She probably lay dormant in a hospital bed some hours, during which they probably observed her.

Knut Holt

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

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