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Date Posted: 09:16:32 03/08/17 Wed
Author: Knut Holt
Subject: Mandatory medical procedures during childhood, teenhood and adulthood - interesting polls

Interesting polls about events in childhood, teenhood and adulthood


Collected, edited and analyzed by Knut Holt

aquila_grande@yahoo.no

Please also see his website with interesting information about alternative treatments, fitness and sex

http://www.abicana.com/health_information.htm

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You can use these polls to tell your own history or the history of someone you know about.
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SUrveillance ans spying on ordinaty citizens by the government, what do you think of it?

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/580904

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Alien abduction - investigation of memories of alien abduction or similar events

Memories of events that may be interpreted as alien abduction are quite common. Some may be from real abduction by non-human beings coming in strange flying vehicles.

Others may be actions done by governmental agencies or mafias for various purposes that have some of the same type of details.

Often one does not remember the abduction as such, but one remembers only some loose details during some kind of ordeal one has been subjected to.

I have made a poll to investigate these memories. If you have experienced something of the kind, please go to the poll and answar. All the answars will be lain out in the massage forum of the poll to be commented further upon.

The address of the poll:

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/616524


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Extended mandatory well-child examination under anesthesia:

In certain areas the health authorities has begun to subject children and teens to extended well-child physicals where one performs several or all of the following procedures: inspections with optical scopes through all or several body openings,ultrasound examinations of most body structures, x-ray taking of joints, EEG and EKG. The kid is often given sedation or even general anesthesia during these extended physicals to make the kid cooperative and to hinder him or her from remembering. Still the kid will remember a lot of details around the procedures and sometimes also from the procedures themselves, because anesthesia never works perfectly, and the kid will always have some symptoms afterwards that tell a lot of what has been done. This poll has the aim of investigating experiences from such ordeals.

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/611395

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Poll about cystoscopy:

By cystoscopy the doctor looks into your bladder with a long instrument. This instrument can be rigid like a stick or flexible. All age groups have cystoscopies. In some comunities a cystoscopy seem to be a mandatory exam at some ages of children and teens. These communities are probably not many yet, but this type of exam seem to increase in frequency, both for special purposes and for mandatory or recomended screening. This poll has the purpose of establishing a picture of the frequence of this type of exam in different age groups and the arrangements during the exam.

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/615327

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Secret medical exams and procedures under anesthesia:

There is growing indices pointing to a practice of doing secret exams and procedures on both children and adults in addition to the thing they are under anesthesia for. Such ordeals may be done for research, for trainging of medical students, ordered by child protective agencies, ordered by school health service, ordered by police or asked for by parents or relatives. This poll is to find out how common signs of such secret ordeals having been done are. This poll has beenlaunched in several sesseions.

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/608976

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Called in for a strange physical or psycological exam:

There is growing indices pointing to a practice of doing secret exams and procedures on both children and adults in addition to the thing they are under anesthesia for. Such ordeals may be done for research, for trainging of medical students, ordered by child protective agencies, ordered by school health service, ordered by police or asked for by parents or relatives. This poll is to find out how common signs of such secret ordeals having been done are.

http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/605807


All the polls also have a message board. The individual stories of each participant will be published here. Here you can add comments or ask questions.


Knut Holt
aquila_grande@yahoo.no

http://www.abicana.com

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SOME TESTAMONIALS FROM THE ALIEN ABDUCTION POLL


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Girl, 13 yo, USA West cost, abducted from beach with other children and teens


I am female- It happened at the west coast of USA when I was 13 years old, on a beach.

A boat came towards me. Then some alien-looking being appeared by me, but I did not see where they came from. The beings that came walked normally, but they were -weird-, a kind of all-limbs. They told that they came to help me and that I had to come along, and they made me willing.

I walked towards the vehicle (the boat?) without them coming to me in the first place. They carried me away. They also took with them other persons, kids, kids together with me.


PREPARATION

They stripped me totally naked and washed me. I think they washed us because some kind of fluid was sprayed over us but it felt more like air. like wet air.They let me lay waiting after the preparation at a sort of table. When waiting I was strapped down. I saw kids being prepared together with me. I saw teenage people being prepared together with me.

I think it was just under a massive tarp or tent but I don't know how it was held up. They started tugging at us, as if trying to figure out what clothing was and how it related to us. then they cut off all our clothes with some kind of rod that just separated where it touched the fabric.

After some cursory examination they separated the boys and girls and quickly chopped all of the girlsmhair short if it wasn't already.


PYSCHOLOGICAL, CULTURAL AND NEUROLOGICAL EXAMINATION

They talked with me and questioned me about my life and opinions. They let me see beautiful or funny pictures, videos or stagings and tested my reactions. They staged sexual scenes or handlings and tested my reactions.

They monitored my reactions with devices at different body parts. They tested my reaction with devices at my pelvic area, genitals or rectal zone. They stimulated me with electrodes at various body parts and tested my reactions.

Some of the beings pretended to be my playmate and played together with me. They talked in really broken english, trying to ask why we wear clothes. They asked us how sex works, how aging works, and showed us some footage so we could try to identify the different stages. There was a lot of footage of kids having sex with other kids or adults, seemingly taken from an impossible vantage point.


EXAMINATION OF THE HEAD OR THROUGH THE MOUTH AND NOSE

They looked at and felt on my head, face. mouth, eyes, ears and nose. They put instruments onto my eyes and looked into them. They put instruments into my ears. They put instruments into my nose. They put instruments into my mouth and down into my throut. They put instruments through my mouth and all the way into my stomach.


They put instruments through my mouth and down towards my lungs. They stuck some needles into parts of my head or neck. They examined my head with electrodes. They examined my head with something like x-ray or ultrasound equipment. They examined my head and neck in other ways.


EXAMS OF THE BREAST AND STOMACH

They looked and felt at my breast. They examined my breast with something like x-rays or ultrasound equipment. They stuck needles into my breast. They looked and felt at my stomach. They examined my stomach with something like x-ray or ultrasound equipment.

They stuck needles into my stomach. They looked and felt at my back. They examined my back with something like x-ray or ultrasound equipment. They stuck needles into my back.

They examined my breast, stomach and back with electrodes. They examined my breast, stomach and back in other ways.

I got really aroused and wet when they touched my nipples, and I heard a lot of other people moaning.


EXAMINATIONS OF LIMBS AND JOINTS

They looked at and felt at my limbs and joints. They tested my joints by bending, flexing, spreading and twisting my legs, arms, hands and feet in all thinkable direction.

They used something like x-ray or ultrasound equipment on my joints and limbs. They stuck needles into my joints and limbs. They examined my joints and limbs with electrodes. They examined my limbs and joints in other ways.

They pretty much moved every joint in every direction it can go and tested the limits.


INTIMATE EXAMINATION

They looked at and felt at my intimate area. They examined the outside of my genitals and pelvic area with something like x-ray or ultrasound equipment. They stuck something looking like an ultrasound sond into my vagina. They inserted a thin and long instrument in through my urinary opening, like a cystoscope.

They stuck something like an ultrasound sond in through my anus. They inserted a thin and long insrument through my anus, like a colonoscope.

They stuck needles into my genitals. They took something out of my vagina. They examined my intimate zone in other ways.


TEST OF SEXUAL ACTS

They held several boys and forcibly (but gently) inserted them into me and other girls, but we didn't really properly have sex or orgasm. They attempted a few same-sex pairings before realizing how it works.

When this girl peed on the table they seemed to react with alarm and thoroughly touched her urethra. I guess to make sure it wasn't broken?


INFORMATION TEH CONVEYED TO ME

Something I didn't understand about. you will stop resisting.


HOW I GOT BACK

Didn't get my clothes back. They brought me back in the same way as they took me. I felt tired and drawsy when I was back. Things I had on me were missing.


SYMPTOMS WHEN I GOT BACK

I started getting really really horny at random, like almost uncontrollably, and my lady bits would run like a faucet. I can't stop masturbating now.


COMMENTS

This might be an alien abduction, but more probably it was abduction by a governmental project with the aim of sampling all kind of intimate data about children and teens.

The boat was there to keep attention away from those abducting. The beings that came were probably some robots that also had the aim of keeping attention away.

The real abductors were most probably humans in disguize and they hindered the kids in looking at them during the abduction process. During the abduction one used mind controle techiques that made the young people think this was for their own good, made them willing subjects and techniques that hindered them to think very much about what happened before they had got home.

The place where they were abducted to, was probably a nearby great hall, possibly underground.

The pretention that they did not know about what clothes were and how sex happens, was also a means to get the kids naked in a smooth way and to mislead them about the origins of the abductor.

All the tests told about in the story are either standard medical examinations done on a daily basis with children in hospitals or health centers.

The mind controle during abduction and sexual testing is not standard, but fully possible with techiques available in health centers or secret services.

The thing taken out of her vagina was probably some monitoring device that she has had inside her for a long time and placed there during an earlier ordeal.

Probably the preparation contained some kind or toileting to make their stomach and bladder empty, but they were possibly kept under anesthesia when that happened, or it was performed sneakily at the same time as some other things happened.

It would be interesting to know how the parents reacted when they came home without their beach clothes in their bags. But perhaps also the parents were manipulated in some ways.


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Girl, 14yo, USA, abducted from a creek where she camped with two more kids

I am female, Kentucky, 14yo. It happened down by this creek where kids like to camp out, I was just there with two of my friends and sleeping under a simple tarp in some sleeping bags.


HOW THE EVENT BEGAN:

I do not remember how the event began, but I remember what happened later. I just went to sleep and woke up there. I know I had to be somewhere else, it was pitch black (I think maybe these things had night vision) and there were all kinds of strange noises. It sounded kind of like a rattlesnake but a lot of 'wet' noises too.

I couldn't see anything but I felt what was definitely a lot of beings and harder things that I think were equipment. I just got paralyzed as they approached me.

I just couldn't move much, when I tried it felt very slow and I wasn't sure if I had even moved at all. It was completely pitch black like I said, so I don't know much about it, but from the sounds I thought it was a relatively large room.


PREPARATIONS:

They stripped me totally naked. They emptied my bladder with a tube inserted into my urinary opening. They emptied my colon with a device inserted through my anus.

I don't think I moved anywhere, it felt like I was on the same 'bed' the whole time, but I don't know what was holding my limbs up. Since I couldn't see anything, I only know things were inserted into me, including my mouth, nose, and ears, along with vagina, rectum, and pee hole.

They pressed something into my bellybutton at one point but it didn't go in so it stopped, I think they thought it was another hole.

I felt strange liquid running all over my body, it felt cold but then it started to sting. Then I felt what felt like long tongues running all over me. That pretty much continued throughout, along with occasional harder things that I think were tools touching other parts of me.


TESTED WITH DEVICES ONTO THE BODY:

They tested my reaction with devices at my pelvic area, genitals or rectal zone. Other kind of test. I think it was attempting to be sexual because they spent a lot of time running the (tentacles?) along my nipples and genitals, along with my mouth. They kept going until I had an orgasm.


EXAMINATIONS AT MY HEAD AND NECK

I don't think I was moved, it was still complete darkness. They looked at and felt on my head, face. mouth, eyes, ears and nose.

They put instruments onto my eyes and looked into them. They put instruments into my ears. They put instruments into my nose. They put instruments into my mouth and down into my throut. They put instruments through my mouth and all the way into my stomach. They put instruments through my mouth and down towards my lungs. They examined my head and neck in other ways.

It definitely felt like they penetrated everything and I remember the long things feeling like they went all the way down my throat. It was terrifying, I felt like I was going to choke. They even licked (?) my eyes and held my eyelids open somehow so I couldn't close them except very slowly,


EXAMINATIONS ON MY CHEAST AND STOMACH

They looked and felt at my breast. They looked and felt at my stomach. They looked and felt at my back. They examined my breast, stomach and back in other ways.

Same thing, they ran their wet whatevers all over. They especially stimulated my nipples. They looked at and felt at my limbs and joints.


EXAMINATION OF MY JOINTS AND LIMBS

They tested my joints by bending, flexing, spreading and twisting my legs, arms, hands and feet in all thinkable direction. I felt my limbs being pulled on but they weren't flexing so much as pulling outward,


INTIMATE MANIPULATIONS

They looked at and felt at my intimate area. They stuck something looking like an ultrasound sond into my vagina. They inserted a thin and long instrument in through my urinary opening, like a cystoscope. They stuck something like an ultrasound sond in through my anus. They inserted a thin and long instrument through my anus, like a colonoscope.

They examined my intimate zone in other ways, the same tentacles or whatever touched me in all of those areas, they went right in, I think the one in my rectum went all the way up because it was in there for a while. Like I said they kept going in my vagina until I had an orgasm.


SOME GENERAL ASPECTS OF THE EXPERIENCE:

I was mostly in the spread-out position but it was hard to tell where my limbs were because I couldn't move them at a normal speed and I couldn't see. It's hard to remember the way the harder objects felt but there were some kinds of instruments involved, and they poked me in places too, sometimes held against my skin. Nothing really hurt though.

Some of the things tickled but I wasn't able to react normally like when you're tickled.


HOW I CAME BACK

I just passed out and when I woke up I was back at the campsite on top of my sleeping bag, my clothes were gone (I had only gone to sleep in a long t-shirt and nothing else so I was able to put on my original clothes)


COMMUNICATION

I couldn't even understand if they were talking or just making other noises, the sounds were just weird, like the way sounds sound underwater. I do not remember how I got back, but I woke up at the place where they took me.



SYMPTOMS AFTER I CAME BACK

I felt tired and drawsy when I was back. My joints and msucles were aching. I blead from my nose. I blead or had discharge from my urethra.

Things I had on me were missing. I felt totally empty in my stomach as if all the contents in my intestines had been flushed out.

I found out what all that liquid was on my body, it dissolved all my hair off from head to toe. I screamed and woke up my friends, they obviously weren't taken because they were fine.

None of my hair ever grew back. My parents didn't believe my story, and when they took me to a doctor he just said I developed sudden alopecia. I shouldn't have washed off in the creek after I woke up but I was so scared that maybe if I got the liquid off it wouldn't keep acting.. so there was no evidence left on me, I guess. People think it was a dream but I know what dreams feel like!

COMMENTS

The girl was surely abducted by somebody. They used methods to paralyze her and to keep her freinds sleeping.

Then she was brought to another place. Based onthe description, it sounds like that place as some building or an underground installation not far away.

There they exmined all parts of her by intsruments used outside and inside her, and tested several body functions, including sexual functions.

Those that abducted her could have been aliens, but also governmental projects are capable of doing any of the things in the history. Much of the details can be done by standard medical equipment. Some of it require more advanced, tentacle-like devices, but technically such devices are possible to make.

It looks like they used a cleaning substance that dissolved her body hair and destroyed the hair sacks so that the hair did not came back. This might be a preparation to make her ready for new abductions to come.

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Girl, 15yo, Southern Italy, tested and examined with other kids in a van

I am female. it happened in Southern Italy, 15, at a park where we liked to meet after school.


HOW THE ABDUCTION OCCURRED:

A strange van came towards me. Some alien-looking beings came out of the vehicle and approached me. The beings that came walked normally. A very long van drove up and opened up. The aliens had helmets on and suits covering whole bodies but several of them came out and called for us to enter the vehicle.

They had weird accents. The van was strange, didn't look like a normal van, and it had a lot room inside, plus lots of tubes and hoses.

They hypnotized me with a humming sound. They told that they came to help me and that I had to come along, and they made me willing.


They carried me along on a stretcher. They kept on bringing me into the door of the vehicle on a stretcher. They also took with them other persons, kids, and teenagers, together with me.

I dont know if youd call them stretchers, they were more flat pieces of thick material to lie on, they just told us all to lie on them and brought us inside the vehicle. They were able to stack some of us on top of each other with a foot of space in between.


PREPARATIONS:

They stripped me totally naked. They washed me. They made me sit on a toilet to empty my bladder and stomach. They let me sit waiting after the preparation at a sort of chair.

I saw kids and teenage people being prepared together with me. Other type of preparations: yes this was after the vehicle pulled into a place, but I didn't see the outside, we were taken directly in through an opening. It was dark inside with soft brown lighting and some other small red and orange lights around. there were lots of strangely-proportioned chairs but they were soft to sit on even though i was naked.

They took us all into a circular room and told us it was backwards and wrong that we were wearing clothes when nobody was forcing us to while just spending time at the park by ourselves. They said they would help us be more comfortable and cut our clothes off of us, then showed us how they destroyed them in a kind of shredding machine. they said this naked is how you should be when you can. then they took a kind of sponge brush like the end of a mop and wiped down our genitals to clean them. a few teens were embarrassed and blushed but if they tried to cover themselves they were told there was no need and everyone has seen it all.


PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSESSMENT:

They brought me into another room.

They talked with me and questioned me about my life and opinions. They let me see beautiful or funny pictures, videos or stagings and tested my reactions. They staged sexual scenes or handlings and tested my reactions. They monitored my reactions with devices on my head. They monitored my reactions with devices at different body parts. They tested my reaction with devices at my pelvic area, genitals or rectal zone. They stimulated me with electrodes at various body parts and tested my reactions. Some of the beings pretended to be my playmate and played together with me.

In addition to hoses or wires touching us, there were handheld devices pointed at us to get information. All the other kids and teens were being tested in the same room, in the same ways. They discussed at length all of our opinions about sex and naughty things and the human body, and tried to guide us to say positive things about them, but made a gesture whenever someone said they were inhibited and then another alien went off where i couldnt see, probably to record the information?

They had a kind of television and showed us a lot of different kinds of pictures and video of people having sex. some were older, some were very young. some appeared to be in this same facility. They said things like 'this is good, this is the right way to live, these people are happier because they make more love. They told us some of them were family members.

The testing room is the one I mentioned earlier with the nice soft chairs for us to sit in. I saw a few kids were sitting two to a chair, side by side or a girl in a boy's lap.


EXAMINATIONS AT AND THROUGH THE HEAD:

They looked at and felt on my head, face. mouth, eyes, ears and nose.

They put instruments into my ears. They put instruments into my mouth and down into my throut- I didn't mind this part, everyone was getting the same. They pointed their devices at our whole body so the head wasnt strange.


EXAMINATION AT THE BREAST, BACK AND STOMACH

They looked and felt at my breast. They examined my breast with something like x-rays or ultrasound equipment. They looked and felt at my stomach. They looked and felt at my back.

They spent a lot of time touching and analyzing my breasts, asking if it felt good, telling me my breasts are very good and i should like having them. i blushed a lot and had trouble answering, but they prodded me to reply.


EXAMINATION OF THE LIMBS:

They looked at and felt at my limbs and joints. They tested my joints by bending, flexing, spreading and twisting my legs, arms, hands and feet in all thinkable direction.

They had me stand up and do a variety of poses, including touch my toes, spread my legs, squat, and lift up my rear. Everyone else was being examined the same, but i saw the older boys also being given a heavy object to lift to test their muscles.


INTIMATE EXAM:

They looked at and felt at my intimate area. They examined the outside of my genitals and pelvic area with something like x-ray or ultrasound equipment. They stuck something looking like an ultrasound sond into my vagina.

They examined my intimate zone in other ways, they had me sit back and spread my legs and told me they were going to make me feel very good. they spent a long time touching my figa and put a long object inside that expanded and contracted repeatedly. i got very embarrassed and couldn't talk, but they kept asking me to tell them it felt good and encouraged me to be as loud as i wanted if i had a climax. then i did, they mostly let me sit comfortably in the chair but gave lots of instructions during the exam to move this part this way, and so on.


FURTHER SEXUAL AND SOCIAL TESTING:

At the end they took us into a new room and sat us down looking at each other, they instructed us to get good looks at everyones body, that it's silly to be embarrassed about it. they spent a lot of time encouraging us to have sexual feelings, and told us to go ahead and have fun with each other. at first nobody did but then they got a bit forceful and pushed some of us together, and most started having sex with each other. the others they encouraged to watch and to touch themselves. only one girl seemed too young to be very interested.



My brother was there and they pushed us together. I said he was my brother and we cant, but they ignored me and urged us to go on anyway. I started to feel more okay with it and got horny, and he blushed a lot but he went ahead anyway and held me and rubbed on me. One alien told me to help guide him inside me and i did as he asked. we both had an orgasm. afterwards they encouraged couples to stay inserted for a long time and not move apart.

The new room had a very soft white floor and was very spacious, with very quiet kind of music you could only barely hear, like one note for a long time then another. it smelled kind of good, i think they put a perfume in the air.


MESSAGES CONVEYED

They had destroyed our clothes earlier and said when we get home we should not put any more clothes on unless we have to. they didn't wipe us down this time.","they just told us we had done well and we should keep doing sex things whenever we can, and said we should never use contraception but try to get pregnant as much as possible and as early as possible. they also encouraged us to let as many people see, to record on media if possible and spread it around.


HOW WE GOT BACK:

They brought me back in the same way as they took me, they put us on the same flat platforms and put us back in the vehicle and drove us back to the park then let us out.


SYMPTOMS AFTER GOING BACK:

I felt tired and drawsy when I was back. Things I had on me were missing. Other symptoms when I was back: a few people were a little embarrassed but mostly we didn't care and just went home, and continued to meet in the park as usual after school. i noticed the other girls who had been abducted never wore underwear under their skirts anymore, and boys would touch them a lot more. I kept having sex with boys after that and i found it was uncomfortable to wear clothes so i started sleeping nude and staying naked in my room when i could, and just a robe around the house.


COMMENTS:

Somenbody examined abducted the kids and tested them psychologically, culturally, sexually and bodily. They could be aliens, but more probably it was a secret governmental project or a project managed by some underground government. In that case the beings were just humans in disguize. There is nothing in the encounter that is not possible by techiques available by governmental projects.

The lack of reactions from the parents or other when the kids went back naked, seems to indicate that this was a wider social experiment using mind-controle techiques. It is also posible that the abductors only pretended to destroy the clothes, and that the kids went back cloded, but did not remember that they had taken the clothes on again because they were in a drugged state.

It looks like the abductors wanted the kids to get pregnant and bear babies as soon as possible, possible because they had some interests in the chilren that were to be born.

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