Create a New Forum Admin Login Member Login Contribute to Voyager Search VoyForums Help Desk VoyForums Exchange VoyForums Directory/Categories VoyForums Homepage VoyForums News FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions

[ Show ]

Support VoyForums

[ Shrink ]

VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

[ Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 1, [2], 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 ]

[ Edit | View ]

[ Edit | View ]

[> [> [> [> Re: I.E., G.R., you and some others are putting bandaids on an irreversible trend! -- The Future, 11/19/15 6:39:07pm Thu

Kinda funny how whatever way you knew as a kid becomes the right way because, well, that�s the way it was when I was a kid!

The posters on this board who I typically agree with the most argue that:
1. Colgate shouldn�t care about playing home games. Colgate has a long tradition of being �Road Warriors.� Give us two home games! We can kick ass anywhere!
2. Colgate doesn�t care about hosting playoff games. This is proof that the administration hates football! How can we win without home playoff games?!


If you want to win the national championship (which should always be Colgate�s goal), you need to:
1. Schedule at least one FBS game a year. This will always be an away game. The best FCS teams play them and occasionally win them. It also helps blur the line between FCS and FBS so that you can recruit better players.
2. Schedule home and home series with good teams. As a rule, the point spread swings three points in favor of the home team. That�s a six point difference between playing a team at home or on the road. Which means, unless you are only counting on the autobid to get you into the playoffs, you absolutely need to play Richmond or Furman at home much more than you need to play Delaware on the road. The playoff selection committee isn�t going to care if you played these teams at home or on the road nearly as much as whether you won or lost. Colgate needs to win games against good teams. Colgate is more likely to beat good teams at home. Therefore, Colgate needs home and home series with good teams.
3. It�s a good thing the AD is scheduling football instead of people on this board. The schedules are pretty perfect. The FBS games are great (Colgate will beat Syracuse next year). Home and home games early in the season with Cornell are great. Home and home with teams like Furman and Richmond are really important for at large bids to the playoffs (for strength of schedule and actually winning these games--see above). Throw in another Ivy or another CAA school�ones that will give Colgate a home and home-- and you have five home games (and the advantage of playing top FCS schools at home every other time you play them) and then six away games (with a trip to an FBS school where everyone gets pictures taken).

Isn't it great to know Colgate football is in such good hands!!!

[ Edit | View ]

[> [> [> [> [> Bring back the "Barnstorming Red Raiders" of Yore!!! -- Abdy Kerr, 11/19/15 8:04:06pm Thu

This time around, you'll be able to watch multiple games on your iPhone/ipad from the Bluebird or Hickey's or during a Toga Party at Beta!




>Kinda funny how whatever way you knew as a kid becomes
>the right way because, well, that�s the way it was
>when I was a kid!
>
>The posters on this board who I typically agree with
>the most argue that:
>1. Colgate shouldn�t care about playing home games.
>Colgate has a long tradition of being �Road Warriors.�
>Give us two home games! We can kick ass anywhere!
>2. Colgate doesn�t care about hosting playoff games.
>This is proof that the administration hates football!
>How can we win without home playoff games?!
>
>
>If you want to win the national championship (which
>should always be Colgate�s goal), you need to:
>1. Schedule at least one FBS game a year. This will
>always be an away game. The best FCS teams play them
>and occasionally win them. It also helps blur the line
>between FCS and FBS so that you can recruit better
>players.
>2. Schedule home and home series with good teams. As a
>rule, the point spread swings three points in favor of
>the home team. That�s a six point difference between
>playing a team at home or on the road. Which means,
>unless you are only counting on the autobid to get you
>into the playoffs, you absolutely need to play
>Richmond or Furman at home much more than you need to
>play Delaware on the road. The playoff selection
>committee isn�t going to care if you played these
>teams at home or on the road nearly as much as whether
>you won or lost. Colgate needs to win games against
>good teams. Colgate is more likely to beat good teams
>at home. Therefore, Colgate needs home and home series
>with good teams.
>3. It�s a good thing the AD is scheduling football
>instead of people on this board. The schedules are
>pretty perfect. The FBS games are great (Colgate will
>beat Syracuse next year). Home and home games early in
>the season with Cornell are great. Home and home with
>teams like Furman and Richmond are really important
>for at large bids to the playoffs (for strength of
>schedule and actually winning these games--see above).
>Throw in another Ivy or another CAA school�ones that
>will give Colgate a home and home-- and you have five
>home games (and the advantage of playing top FCS
>schools at home every other time you play them) and
>then six away games (with a trip to an FBS school
>where everyone gets pictures taken).
>
>Isn't it great to know Colgate football is in such
>good hands!!!

[ Edit | View ]

[> [> [> [> [> Not really a contradiction -- 'gate80, 11/20/15 8:12:55pm Fri

Of course we should try to get home playoff games if the goal is to advance in the playoffs. Our home playoff record is 3-0, and away is 1-9. Even with our best efforts it will be rare when Colgate is in a position to host a playoff game, and it is a disgrace that we forfeited those opportunities in the past. And yes it is evidence that the anti-fb attitudes were real. The good news, if true, is that we finally bid for a home playoff game. It is a sign that Vicki gets it and has influence.

I also agree that Vicki has done a great job with our fb schedules. I would be delighted if we played all of our games at Kerr. I am skeptical that we will continue to get Richmond and Furman, and eventually James Madison and Delaware, to come to Hamilton to play in front of a few hundred, as Lehigh did last week in the most important home game in 7 years. If James Madison prefers to play a game with us in front of 20,000 in Virginia, rather than in front of 500 in Hamilton, we should understand and not say the hell with 'em. Yes we need to beat good teams, even if it has to be on the road, not only to have a shot at an at-large bid but to improve our chances of being awarded a home playoff game.

[ Edit | View ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Not really a contradiction -- bs, 11/21/15 10:38:56am Sat

>you are right on.

Also, in the sixties we generally had three home games. Homecoming, fall party and parents weekend.

[ Edit | View ]