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Re: The Museum Downtown -- 60s alum, 10/29/15 12:34:13pm Thu
>>>I heard that the downtown museum project has faced
>>>major cost overruns due to infrastructure
>>>complications, delaying its start.
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>>What I know from speaking with senior administrators
>>is that the demolition of the old Perrys building
>>missed its planned summer execution, the scope of the
>>proposed 3 buildings was being reconsidered in light
>>of water table challenges, and that the Board is
>>reassessing the overall picture. But for sure, the
>>need for a new facility remains. And the fundraising
>>among interested supporters remains ongoing.
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>>What is that? Briefly, Dana is unsatisfactory as an
>>exhibition and storage facilty. Shifting to a new site
>>and adding the Longyear collection from Alumni are
>>very much still on the cards. Then there is the
>>repurposing of the freed-up space in Dana.
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>>So this MAY mean that the project's scope will change
>>and/or that it may be brought onto campus, possibly in
>>consideration of plans for a new performing arts
>>center, which would most certainly be built near Dana.
>>
>>Personally, I hope that this project stays on track,
>>partly because I think the village would benefit
>>greatly from an enriched arts scene.
>>
>>So watch developments this winter and spring and we
>>should know where we are heading.
>>
>>Go 'gate!
>
>The proposed design of the building is butt ugly!
Locating it where Perrys is, is wrong. Nobody will see it there. Should be on the hill or at least on campus somewhere. This sounds like a cockamamie scheme to me.
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Re: The Museum Downtown -- the last indian, 10/29/15 2:45:50pm Thu
So this is for the farmers and village folk, who live around Hamilton or is for the profs and their wives. I don't get it. Waste of money and I have also heard that it is ugly and not in keeping with the architecture of the town.
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Re: The Museum Downtown -- 60s alum, 10/29/15 4:38:51pm Thu
>So this is for the farmers and village folk, who live
>around Hamilton or is for the profs and their wives.
>I don't get it. Waste of money and I have also heard
>that it is ugly and not in keeping with the
>architecture of the town.
Ever since the bookstore moved downtown I've had a fear of something like this happening. It's "campus creep" and entirely against the spirit of Colgate's founders in keeping the buildings on the hill. I can't imagine the thinking that went into this boondoggle. Wake up people!
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Renderings of The Center for Arts and Culture -- The Future, 10/29/15 5:54:04pm Thu
http://www.designboom.com/architecture/colgate-university-center-for-art-and-culture-by-david-adjaye-03-03-2014/
I know absolutely nothing about design I don't really understand the front left part of the building. I think they put a car in front of it to mask how poorly is connects with the building next to it. Seems like this kind of design begs to sit out in the open to take advantage of the windows instead of creating an uninviting alley next to it. I think the interior of it and the alley closest to the Inn are nice looking but If I were the new president, I would absolutely stop $30 million from being spent on this.
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Re: The Museum Downtown -- Gate'83, 10/29/15 4:58:12pm Thu
>So this is for the farmers and village folk, who live
>around Hamilton or is for the profs and their wives.
>I don't get it. Waste of money and I have also heard
>that it is ugly and not in keeping with the
>architecture of the town.
The idea is it's for everyone... lets Colgate show off its extensive art collection to farmers, professors, students, tourists, etc. The hope is it would be another attraction within town that would draw economic activity to Hamilton, certainly to the benefit of locals and the downtown businesses. What the arts center offers may not be of particular interest to those of us populating a CU sports chatroom, but there are certainly others who care more about this project than the new hockey arena.
As to aesthetics, Future's post above has a link that shows a scale drawing so you can judge for yourself whether it's appealing. It's certainly different!
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Re: The Museum Downtown -- Gate Raider, 10/29/15 5:30:54pm Thu
It's certainly not appealing in the suggested location unless the style or architecture is changed. Maybe they should go up rather than back and leave some room for parking. Better yet, put it where the Alum Relations building office is and get rid of the modern architecture.
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Re: The Museum Downtown -- Cr, 10/29/15 6:27:57pm Thu
>>So this is for the farmers and village folk, who live
>>around Hamilton or is for the profs and their wives.
>>I don't get it. Waste of money and I have also heard
>>that it is ugly and not in keeping with the
>>architecture of the town.
>
>The idea is it's for everyone... lets Colgate show off
>its extensive art collection to farmers, professors,
>students, tourists, etc. The hope is it would be
>another attraction within town that would draw
>economic activity to Hamilton, certainly to the
>benefit of locals and the downtown businesses. What
>the arts center offers may not be of particular
>interest to those of us populating a CU sports
>chatroom, but there are certainly others who care more
>about this project than the new hockey arena.
>
>As to aesthetics, Future's post above has a link that
>shows a scale drawing so you can judge for yourself
>wh
ether it's appealing. It's certainly different!
Junk it! The farmers and Amish are' coming. If you need a new building find a new arcitect and put it on campus as last Indian suggests.
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Re: The Museum Downtown -- the last indian, 10/30/15 11:14:24am Fri
Ugly, anywhere you put it. Yes, those hordes of tourists clogging up downtown Hamilton. I can't stand the crush. Get Real. Can this thing.
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it's Dr.& Mrs Herbst's legacy for Hammy! -- Andy Kerr, 10/30/15 3:28:19pm Fri
Need I say more ?
>The museum definitely looks the best from the 20 story
>building above Roger's Market at night after they
>covered all of the buildings in town in matching brown
>wood. It's a bold choice to remove all architectural
>details from the surrounding buildings, but I do think
>it accurately depicts how seamlessly it will fit in
>once completed. I can only assume the $30 million
>price tag will include covering the town in said brown
>wood.
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>djaye-presents-design-for-center-for-art-and-culture.ht
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Re: it's Dr.& Mrs Herbst's legacy for Hammy! -- Steve, 10/31/15 3:19:07am Sat
Here are some personal views for all those art and architecture mavens on this board:
The downtown site was conceived to enliven the depth and sophistication of the village by bringing the Picker and Longyear collections and a community center onto Colgate-owned land there. Those amenities deserve to be seen and enjoyed by the wider community- students, staff, visitors and townspeople.
The architect is world class and probably not reading this blog. His designs are widely recognized as game-changing and his commissions on the Washington Mall for the Smithsonian, Denver, London etc are discussed in the last issue of Intelligent Life. They are not intended to be retro-Disneyland Main Street 1890 as some might expect is just what Hamilton needs. I don't, for the record.
The arts belong to everyone who appreciates culture- or who would learn to enjoy them if they had access. A challenging design from a top caliber architect in a small town in central NY would do that. And it would attract rotating exhibitions. None of this happens at Dana and Alumni now. In contrast to what's envisioned, it's sad to see museums etc sparsely attended when they remotely located on college campuses where others might not have access and/or feel they are welcome.
I know lots of people obsess about winners and losers, black and white and "too expensive" in their particular experience when making their points- and this is reflected in blog discussions. This project now is getting that treatment. So for the record, this center, whether in the village or elsewhere, will be a great boost for the Humanities at Colgate, now that the other 2 disciplines have had their capital projects built (Case, Ho, the McGregory, Lathrop renos) and also now that the Class of 1965 Arena is 9 months from completion. And it's no where near a $30 million project- where did that come from?- and it will be mainly donor funded, as are other projects such as the $11 million Benton Hall and Trudy some years ago now.
I hope that helps put things into perspective.
Go 'gate!
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Thanks, Steve -- Renaissance Gate-Man, 10/31/15 11:09:34am Sat
Thanks for the more balanced insight Steve !
Good thing that every point of view is not from or aimed at the pure jocks on this Board!
>Here are some personal views for all those art and
>architecture mavens on this board:
>
>The downtown site was conceived to enliven the depth
>and sophistication of the village by bringing the
>Picker and Longyear collections and a community center
>onto Colgate-owned land there. Those amenities deserve
>to be seen and enjoyed by the wider community-
>students, staff, visitors and townspeople.
>
>The architect is world class and probably not reading
>this blog. His designs are widely recognized as
>game-changing and his commissions on the Washington
>Mall for the Smithsonian, Denver, London etc are
>discussed in the last issue of Intelligent Life. They
>are not intended to be retro-Disneyland Main Street
>1890 as some might expect is just what Hamilton needs.
>I don't, for the record.
>
>The arts belong to everyone who appreciates culture-
>or who would learn to enjoy them if they had access. A
>challenging design from a top caliber architect in a
>small town in central NY would do that. And it would
>attract rotating exhibitions. None of this happens at
>Dana and Alumni now. In contrast to what's envisioned,
>it's sad to see museums etc sparsely attended when
>they remotely located on college campuses where others
>might not have access and/or feel they are welcome.
>
>I know lots of people obsess about winners and losers,
>black and white and "too expensive" in their
>particular experience when making their points- and
>this is reflected in blog discussions. This project
>now is getting that treatment. So for the record, this
>center, whether in the village or elsewhere, will be a
>great boost for the Humanities at Colgate, now that
>the other 2 disciplines have had their capital
>projects built (Case, Ho, the McGregory, Lathrop
>renos) and also now that the Class of 1965 Arena is 9
>months from completion. And it's no where near a $30
>million project- where did that come from?- and it
>will be mainly donor funded, as are other projects
>such as the $11 million Benton Hall and Trudy some
>years ago now.
>
>I hope that helps put things into perspective.
>
>Go 'gate!
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