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Date Posted: 09/26/15 12:31:55pm Sat
Author: OMG
Subject: Maybe we should run it up the middle. Again. From the shotgun.


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[> Re: Maybe we should run it up the middle. Again. From the shotgun. -- TheGreenCoat, 09/26/15 12:33:36pm Sat

great play calling you morons...same old, same old...frankly, this is embarrassing


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[> [> Re: Maybe we should run it up the middle. Again. From the shotgun. -- TheGreenCoat, 09/26/15 12:52:32pm Sat

>great play calling you morons...same old, same
>old...frankly, this is embarrassing
can ANYBODY on this site please explain to me the philosophy behind the offensive co-ordinator's play calling? ANYBODY...


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[> [> [> Re: Maybe we should run it up the middle. Again. From the shotgun. -- the last indian, 09/26/15 1:14:23pm Sat

too many mistakes, fouls and other dumb plays. Killing ourselves, tho I suspect they are just better.


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[> [> [> [> Re: Maybe we should run it up the middle. Again. From the shotgun. -- TheGreenCoat, 09/26/15 2:19:33pm Sat

>too many mistakes, fouls and other dumb plays. Killing
>ourselves, tho I suspect they are just better.
they are not better...they are better coached, including the positioning of their cornerbacks not being 15 yards from the line of scrimmage...now that he's finally thrown an int we'll probably continue to run on first and second down...HC knows what's coming...it's not exactly a state secret...


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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Maybe we should run it up the middle. Again. From the shotgun. -- TheGreenCoat, 09/26/15 3:14:10pm Sat

>>too many mistakes, fouls and other dumb plays. Killing
>>ourselves, tho I suspect they are just better.
>they are not better...they are better coached,
>including the positioning of their cornerbacks not
>being 15 yards from the line of scrimmage...now that
>he's finally thrown an int we'll probably continue to
>run on first and second down...HC knows what's
>coming...it's not exactly a state secret...
game really broken open on two straight pass plays after Mataluna punt return...25 yarder to Greenwalt and the TD strike to Quazza...yes, passes...we've got talent on offense...use ALL of it...Pujols had a bad day no doubt, but IF we let Melville throw (and he made good throws today) it will open up the run game...stay aggressive on offense and we can score points...


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[> Re: Maybe we should run it up the middle. Again. From the shotgun. -- Steve, 09/26/15 6:53:28pm Sat

>great play calling you morons...same old, same
>old...frankly, this is embarrassing

Green coat,

Not so embarrassing now, is it?

Go 'gate


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[> Re: Maybe we should run it up the middle. Again. From the shotgun. -- Gate Raider, 09/26/15 7:12:10pm Sat

last indian, HC is not better. This win makes it four in a row for Colgate.


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[> Game Ball to -- Gate Raider, 09/26/15 7:17:14pm Sat

The offensive line for the outstanding rushing drive for the TD. They made HC's D line look really ineffective. Go O Line.


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[> [> Re: Game Ball to -- 60'salum, 09/26/15 9:52:23pm Sat

>The offensive line for the outstanding rushing drive
>for the TD. They made HC's D line look really
>ineffective. Go O Line.

Agreed. That last drive we ate up yardage and the clock, didn't give HC any chance. The O line was superb at opening holes for Wilkens and made their D line totally irrelevant. The passing game certainly opened things up for us today. Let's hope this proves to be a turnabout in our game strategies henceforth. Go Gate!


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[> [> [> Re: Game Ball to -- the last indian, 09/26/15 10:08:21pm Sat

HC certainly looked to be the better team for 85% of the first half, but the second half was a big contrast. The performance by the O-line was the best this year. And it is a patched together bunch because of injuries, with several making their first start. Kudos. If you want me to eat crow based on my first half observation, I am more than happy to do so. As I said elsewhere, I think coach Shaffner deserves thanks. The D was terrific against a QB that has given us nightmares. I am always glad,to see Gilmore lose and Colgate to play 'gate football.


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[> [> Re: Game Ball to -- Go HC, 09/26/15 10:35:35pm Sat

>The offensive line for the outstanding rushing drive
>for the TD. They made HC's D line look really
>ineffective. Go O Line.
The game ball should go to the HC coaching staff-poor performance on defense and offense. Still 9500 fans at the game at Fitton Field-when was the last time Colgate had that many fans at Andy KERR?


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[> [> [> Re: Game Ball to -- jb74, 09/26/15 11:37:08pm Sat

>>The offensive line for the outstanding rushing drive
>>for the TD. They made HC's D line look really
>>ineffective. Go O Line.
>The game ball should go to the HC coaching staff-poor
>performance on defense and offense. Still 9500 fans at
>the game at Fitton Field-when was the last time
>Colgate had that many fans at Andy KERR?
Dear GOHC, As to your raving about the 9,500 at Fitton Field today, 25% of the crowd was wearing maroon. Beyond that, don't overlook the fact that the population residing within a 20 mile radius of Worcester is at least fifteen times greater than that in the same vicinity of the Kerrdome.


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[> [> [> [> Re: Game Ball to -- Steve, 09/27/15 7:22:02am Sun

>>>The offensive line for the outstanding rushing drive
>>>for the TD. They made HC's D line look really
>>>ineffective. Go O Line.
>>The game ball should go to the HC coaching staff-poor
>>performance on defense and offense. Still 9500 fans at
>>the game at Fitton Field-when was the last time
>>Colgate had that many fans at Andy KERR?
>Dear GOHC, As to your raving about the 9,500 at Fitton
>Field today, 25% of the crowd was wearing maroon.
>Beyond that, don't overlook the fact that the
>population residing within a 20 mile radius of
>Worcester is at least fifteen times greater than that
>in the same vicinity of the Kerrdome.


I am biased but I would take Andy Kerr Stadium over HC's
field even if the stands were empty. I mean, have you taken an impartial assessment of what makes for an enjoyable college football experience?

Why?

From my seat, HC is nowhere near as appealing:

1- There is nothing that can be done about it, obviously, but the stadium's visitor side is next to a roaring highway.
Then there were all the noisy "entertainments" throughout the game, possibly for the children, with dance groups,
team tributes and, worst of all, some clown announcing from
different sections home side sections giveaways, contest, and other nonsense at every timeout. Gratuitous noise, the extreme alternative, I guess, to a traditional atmosphere, you know, focusing on the game itself.

2- The mixed tailgate area showed that the authorities made NO effort to establish a Colgate section conducive to socializing. And at $10 per car you would expect more- and you would get it at Colgate. It's called hospitality.
And after navigating the mess that is Worcester, with its perpetual road works, I will take the scenery, convenience and safety of Hamilton anytime.

3- The last impression I had of leaving the stadium site was about 10 minutes after the game ended. It seemed like HC security staff couldn't wait to get away themselves. All
the chain link gates leading from the visitors side to the
regular (mixed) parking lot were padlocked, requiring visitors to walk around to the back of the home side, exit
through their exit and then loop back to the lot. Shabby.

If you want to experience class, a world away from Worcester and HC stadium, visit Colgate. Ah... central NY
hospitality on one of the top 5 most beautiful college campuses in the nation with a generous visitor lot, easy access, and a focus, yes, on the football game. Before you arrive check out out the Farmers Market in the Village, and before you take your seats look around Andy Kerr at the new soccer stadium towards Tyler's Field and behind the Dunlap stands the $38 million Class of 1965 Arena.

That does it for me.

Go 'gate!


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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Game Ball to -- out of the 'gate, 09/27/15 9:07:33pm Sun

>>>>The offensive line for the outstanding rushing drive
>>>>for the TD. They made HC's D line look really
>>>>ineffective. Go O Line.
>>>The game ball should go to the HC coaching staff-poor
>>>performance on defense and offense. Still 9500 fans
>at
>>>the game at Fitton Field-when was the last time
>>>Colgate had that many fans at Andy KERR?
>>Dear GOHC, As to your raving about the 9,500 at Fitton
>>Field today, 25% of the crowd was wearing maroon.
>>Beyond that, don't overlook the fact that the
>>population residing within a 20 mile radius of
>>Worcester is at least fifteen times greater than that
>>in the same vicinity of the Kerrdome.
>
>
>I am biased but I would take Andy Kerr Stadium over
>HC's
>field even if the stands were empty. I mean, have you
>taken an impartial assessment of what makes for an
>enjoyable college football experience?
>
>Why?
>
>From my seat, HC is nowhere near as appealing:
>
>1- There is nothing that can be done about it,
>obviously, but the stadium's visitor side is next to a
>roaring highway.
>Then there were all the noisy "entertainments"
>throughout the game, possibly for the children, with
>dance groups,
>team tributes and, worst of all, some clown announcing
>from
>different sections home side sections giveaways,
>contest, and other nonsense at every timeout.
>Gratuitous noise, the extreme alternative, I guess, to
>a traditional atmosphere, you know, focusing on the
>game itself.
>
>2- The mixed tailgate area showed that the authorities
>made NO effort to establish a Colgate section
>conducive to socializing. And at $10 per car you would
>expect more- and you would get it at Colgate. It's
>called hospitality.
>And after navigating the mess that is Worcester, with
>its perpetual road works, I will take the scenery,
>convenience and safety of Hamilton anytime.
>
>3- The last impression I had of leaving the stadium
>site was about 10 minutes after the game ended. It
>seemed like HC security staff couldn't wait to get
>away themselves. All
>the chain link gates leading from the visitors side to
>the
>regular (mixed) parking lot were padlocked, requiring
>visitors to walk around to the back of the home side,
>exit
>through their exit and then loop back to the lot.
>Shabby.
>
>If you want to experience class, a world away from
>Worcester and HC stadium, visit Colgate. Ah... central
>NY
>hospitality on one of the top 5 most beautiful college
>campuses in the nation with a generous visitor lot,
>easy access, and a focus, yes, on the football game.
>Before you arrive check out out the Farmers Market in
>the Village, and before you take your seats look
>around Andy Kerr at the new soccer stadium towards
>Tyler's Field and behind the Dunlap stands the $38
>million Class of 1965 Arena.
>
>That does it for me.
>
>Go 'gate!

Steve, You said it very well. HC is always challenging tailgating: what parking lot, what rules. Gate being gate though we managed to find some maroon, even one of the 2003 dream team players with his wife and parents (what fun that was). We lingered after the game with the players' parents so by the time got back to the lot, you are right, there was no one there. Finally post game tailgating was possible, but who could have known?

The game totally surprised us, especially when we began to fall into that routine of penalties that has helped our first 3 opponents win. But after a series of successful Melville completions, there it was, out of nowhere, that standard gate play from the playbook: RUN, RUN, RUN...by not 1 but 2 amazing athletes. I think HC kept thinking we would start passing again (since it appeared to be working) but we didn't, but they kept thinking we would. Melville maybe the ace in the hole to keep the running game effective (cuz I really think we can RUN).

Just fyi, to get the real spin on the Crusader view of our victory, go to their unofficial website. google CROSSSPORT, it should come up. GO GATE !


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[> [> Re: Game Ball to -- Gate Raider, 09/26/15 11:51:54pm Sat

I'll take the win. You keep the fans. It was your homecoming after all. I think this is 'gate's fourth consecutive win, right?


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[> [> [> Re: Game Ball to -- Go HC, 09/27/15 9:55:23pm Sun

>I'll take the win. You keep the fans. It was your
>homecoming after all. I think this is 'gate's fourth
>consecutive win, right?
Andy Kerr stadium(?) is a poor man's high school stadium.


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[> [> [> [> Re: Game Ball to -- out of the 'gate, 09/28/15 10:13:34pm Mon

>>I'll take the win. You keep the fans. It was your
>>homecoming after all. I think this is 'gate's fourth
>>consecutive win, right?
>Andy Kerr stadium(?) is a poor man's high school
>stadium.

The stadium was good enough to get us to the national championship. Until you've been there, have some respect...


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[> [> Re: Game Ball to -- Gate'83, 09/27/15 6:56:51am Sun

>The offensive line for the outstanding rushing drive
>for the TD. They made HC's D line look really
>ineffective. Go O Line.

Always fun to see the HC fans blaming their coaches after we've jammed the ball down their throats... again! They know what's coming & can't stop it, that's on the players they put on the field.

We had 7,300 for our homecoming debacle a week ago. Given the relative demographics of the area I'd say that's a more impressive number than HC's 9K. And we don't have to paper over half our stadium to make it look full...


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[> Re: Maybe we should run it up the middle. Again. From the shotgun. -- Lennie, 09/27/15 9:35:20am Sun

Weather just right, the outcome of the game, just right.
After the team got rid of its propensity to incur penalties in the first half, the second half was a beautiful thing to see. Both offense and defense were outstanding and I think that Jake Melville had a near flawless game. One thing, though, I would like to see 1 or 2 of the backup QBs get to take a few snaps in a game. I noticed that Bret Mooney never put a helmet on while standing on the sidelines. Does that mean he is injured or not in the coaches best graces?


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[> Re: Maybe we should run it up the middle. Again. From the shotgun. -- gate, 09/27/15 11:33:51am Sun

Great homecoming win for the Raiders!

Gorgeous, gorgeous day, and what a tale of two halves. The tipped interception at the HC 10 yd line, ugh...looked like another week of red zone points left on the field. Stopped on 3rd & 4th downs with an inch to go...and couldn't punch it in...my eyes swelled with tears. Fortunately, we returned the favor during a key point in the 2nd half and the payback was sweet. As predictable as our running play was in the first half, so were Pujals's passing plays...every single one of them to the sidelines for 8-12 yards. Thought he was a highly-praised recruit but his untimely pass interceptions have been Colgate's gain over the years.

Quazza's TD was a thing of beauty...don't hear his name enough, why??? With Greenwalt, Maddaluna and Quazza, our passing game could be a great complement to our running game. The clock control with our run is our bread-and-butter. I think many of Melville's passes are low, anyone else? I am still not sold on him but his stats after each game tell a different story, I guess.

No blocked field goals...and a bit better on the penalties. Thrilled for the win but not sure HC was our greatest test. Hopefully those tough, early games highlighted our flaws enough to fix some of them.

Have said it before...why did they extend Gilmore's contract? Rumors are Coen at Lehigh may be in the hot seat...again. Princeton offense looks good again this year and we play them in 2 weeks.

1-0 Patriot!
Go 'Gate!
Beat Cornell!
Run, Holland, Run!


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[> Re: Maybe we should run it up the middle. Again. From the shotgun. -- CLE Raider, 09/28/15 7:48:41pm Mon

I have never understood the negative reaction to the play calling on this board. The offense has been predicated on the inside zone and gap scheme power with read options available. These plays are/have been used to set up the passing game, even when we had dominate receivers. Every offense has an identity, I bet Navy fans do not complain about running the triple option so much. You would think all of the negative feedback here that 'gate has had the same type of performance as Bucknell or Georgetown over the last 10 years that we have been running this offense.


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[> [> Re: Maybe we should run it up the middle. Again. From the shotgun. -- the last indian, 09/28/15 8:58:30pm Mon

Great when it is effective as it was in Worcester, but not so great when it doesn't as in the 4th quarter against Yale. There are time when you have to run something different or pass to keep the defense honest. If the offensive line isn't dominating a little finesse is needed.


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[> [> Re: Maybe we should run it up the middle. Again. From the shotgun. -- Cr, 09/28/15 9:00:16pm Mon

>I have never understood the negative reaction to the
>play calling on this board. The offense has been
>predicated on the inside zone and gap scheme power
>with read options available. These plays are/have been
>used to set up the passing game, even when we had
>dominate receivers. Every offense has an identity, I
>bet Navy fans do not complain about running the triple
>option so much. You would think all of the negative
>feedback here that 'gate has had the same type of
>performance as Bucknell or Georgetown over the last 10
>years that we have been running this offense.

100% correct.


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