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Date Posted: 08/ 9/15 11:10:23am Sun
Author: gate bb fan
Subject: Re: WBB: UConn at 'gate?
In reply to: Go...'gate 's message, "Re: WBB: UConn at 'gate?" on 08/ 8/15 9:53:47pm Sat


>This is great for Colgate women's BB.

This is horrible for Colgate women's BB.

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[> [> [> Re: WBB: UConn at 'gate? -- Critic, 08/ 9/15 11:38:02am Sun

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>>This is great for Colgate women's BB.
>
>This is horrible for Colgate women's BB.

Ok, nevertheless, UConn is at the 'gate this December. Duke women have scheduled perennial powerhouses Penn, Army, and Winthrop. Notre Dame women are risking their top 5 ranking playing Cornell. Just saying. Go 'gate!


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[> [> [> [> Re: WBB: UConn at 'gate? -- and one, 08/ 9/15 11:22:13pm Sun

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>>>This is great for Colgate women's BB.
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>>This is horrible for Colgate women's BB.
>
>Ok, nevertheless, UConn is at the 'gate this December.
>Duke women have scheduled perennial powerhouses Penn,
>Army, and Winthrop. Notre Dame women are risking their
>top 5 ranking playing Cornell. Just saying. Go 'gate!

Scheduling a game with no possibility to win goes against a winning mentality/philosophy, and please don't rationalize it as a great experience for the student athletes. That is just a cover up/excuse for saying we have no shot at winning. I guess it may be status quo for certain departments as they need to generate revenue, so I get that perspective. Just will never be on the side of the fence and be excited for exposure when a team gets beat by 40 on a national stage.


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[> [> [> [> [> Re: WBB: UConn at 'gate? -- Steve, 08/10/15 1:16:16am Mon

I like the part of Cotterell Court being on the national stage. And like I said earlier... I'll ask the players and coaches afterwards what benefits they gained from playing the national champions. That should do it for me.

Go 'gate!


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: WBB: UConn at 'gate? -- gate bb fan, 08/10/15 9:26:40am Mon

>I like the part of Cotterell Court being on the
>national stage. And like I said earlier... I'll ask
>the players and coaches afterwards what benefits they
>gained from playing the national champions. That
>should do it for me.
>
>Go 'gate!

My belief is that no team should enter a contest with no chance of winning (or even being competitive). If that's the case then it is obvious that the reason for the game is $$$, and this is a bad thing for the players.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> Doing it for the money? -- The Lone Haranguer, 08/10/15 10:42:16am Mon

How much money are we talking about? It is Cotterell (seating capacity 1750) for cryin' out loud. The gross gate receipts won't even cover a full scholarship.

If you define success as only winning or or almost winning then the game isn't worth it. But success in these type games is measured at the team and individual player levels in addition to the benefits to the Colgate and Hamilton communities. A blowout is a given, but we always have our SAT scores and US News ranking to beat them up on.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Doing it for the money? -- Steve, 08/10/15 3:12:35pm Mon

Exactly!

...and when did this winners/losers business creep into our collective unconscious? Come on already! We are talking about Colgate students playing the 2014 top ranked DI college basketball team. We are not talking about professional sports and all that goes with its earnngs model.

Colgate supporters know better than that. It's about our students and their chance to play Conn and thereby challenge themselves. Ok?

Go 'gate!


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Doing it for the money? -- Hoopie, 08/10/15 4:28:19pm Mon

>Exactly!
>
>...and when did this winners/losers business creep
>into our collective unconscious? Come on already! We
>are talking about Colgate students playing the 2014
>top ranked DI college basketball team. We are not
>talking about professional sports and all that goes
>with its earnngs model.
>
>Colgate supporters know better than that. It's about
>our students and their chance to play Conn and thereby
>challenge themselves. Ok?
>
Incredible. Such negativity before the entire schedule is even released. I certainly hope our women's hoops players are not reading some of these pessimistic, critical comments. They deserve better.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Re: Doing it for the money? -- Steve, 08/11/15 7:20:20am Tue

Hoopie, I agree entirely on all counts.

Fortunately, the team is enjoying their visit to New Zealand now. Gocolgateraiders.com includes a story about their latest win. I checked out their opponent online and see they were 2014 national champions!

But win or lose any particular game, our teams are comprised of winning students and the value our coaches and administrators deliver is first class. That's the way I choose to see it.

Go 'gate!


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