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Date Posted: 09/ 2/15 11:35:54am Wed
Author: gate
Subject: Re: That contentious open faculty letter of 3 years ago
In reply to: Steve 's message, "That contentious open faculty letter of 3 years ago" on 09/ 2/15 9:31:55am Wed

Thx 4 sharing, Steve. She is an accomplished student-athlete for sure. I hope her words are not falling on deaf ears of those who drafted their original complaint. If any of them have kids that play little league instead of doing their homework, watch college or pro sports on tv or attend any sporting event, then shame on them!

I am sure, though, that there are athletes who find balancing academics at Colgate and a sports schedule more challenging than they ever realized and they suffer for it. I hope they are able to get the services they need. Not everyone is meant to graduate summa cum laude. A 2.0 from Colgate can still open many doors!

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[> Re: That contentious open faculty letter of 3 years ago -- 'gate80, 09/ 3/15 12:21:00pm Thu

Yes, I agree it says all there is to say. Steve, don't you think the very need for a letter like this, at a place like Colgate from someone as impressive as Lexi, demonstrates exactly the problem we have?


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[> [> Re: That contentious open faculty letter of 3 years ago -- Oak Dr., 09/ 3/15 12:33:14pm Thu

>Yes, I agree it says all there is to say. Steve, don't
>you think the very need for a letter like this, at a
>place like Colgate from someone as impressive as Lexi,
>demonstrates exactly the problem we have?


The letter is very well written, an impressive act by the student athlete. It is my hope the coach and administration were aware of it prior to it being released. The student athlete is representing Colgate, regardless of the situation and shouldn't act without proper authorization. Just wondering if it was necessary to open "Pandora's Box" again.


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[> [> [> Re: That contentious open faculty letter of 3 years ago -- Steve, 09/ 3/15 2:27:36pm Thu

I don't believe we have a problem as such. What we do have is a letter from a set of faculty 3 years ago explaining their concerns, most likely as a means of getting enough attention to stimulate debate. They succeeded.

This issue remains on peoples' minds, not surprisingly, despite the heightened levels of attentiom and quality delivered by Vicky Chun and her entire team. To me that counts for a lot because I have confidence that she "gets" what makes Colgate special, unique and a more successful destination for recruits and new department hires. Their profiles, in my estimation, as more impressive than ever.

I seldom concern myself with questions about Pandora's box. If Lexi was compelled for whatever reason to express her views, well, they were meant to be circulated to the Colgate community. So I did my part in doing so.

We all might as well keep our eyes and ears open to these types of push-pull discussions so we can remain current and involved. After all, we are all engaged as supporters of Colgate athletics.

Go 'gate!


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[> [> [> [> Re: That contentious open faculty letter of 3 years ago -- Steve, 09/11/15 12:42:10pm Fri

Well, it seems as if it was just as well that I reintroduced that letter from some faculty in the context of Lexi's recent response.

Why? The letter is part of a new Bloomberg video about the Class of 1965 Arena and the direction of spending on athletics at elite colleges.

What the video doesn't say is that Colgate is 52nd on the list of all US 4 year colleges and universities on cost, Colgate invested over $120 million in Ho, Case, Lathrop and the new career center in the past 10 years while the spend on athletics capital projects about $45 million on Trudy and the arena- mainly or entirely donor funded.

Then there are the USN&WR, Princeton Review and Kiplinger's rankings and findings that show Colgate is on a roll. It goes without saying, doesn't it, that alumni, parent and other donors know the importance, impact and value of their donations, including $178 million for financial aid in the last capital campaign.


http://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2015-09-10/the-athletics-arms-race-at-elite-colleges

I hope you will agree that "no publicity is bad publicity". The video is of high quality and shows off the campus. Both Mike Martin and Murray Decock presented their views well. Not sure about the Smith College sports economist's message, though.

Go 'gate!


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