• Agreed. We HAVE to raise the bar and these young, educated women must be empowered to speak THEIR truth (no editing by MAO) and say NO when necessary. If what you state is true, Miss CT should have drawn the line. (NT) -- No name, 00:27:48 09/25/16 Sun
  • I'm not from your area but if that's the catch phrase for his business I think it's easy to assume that people do realize that's what she was asked to say. I also think that people need to calm down regarding contestants and trying to "PROVE" these young ladies are smart or have good moral values or work hard to improve the community. If you feel you have to prove something every second then it seems you might not really think your as good as you are trying to portray. Who are you really trying to prove it to? Trying to prove it to people that will fight like hell to take you down is a waste of time. Have a sense of humor and enjoy the year of rein and in your heart know you are doing your part to make a difference and stop worrying about the small stuff. (NT) -- No name, 06:26:10 09/25/16 Sun
    • To continue: And stop worrying about small people. I think it's great she's even on a commercial and maybe this will lead to even more local commercials but even if it doesn't, it's great publicity for her and no I don't think people will believe she really speaks like that. (NT) -- No name, 06:29:45 09/25/16 Sun
      • To the poster above - if you were from CT, then you'd know what a scumbag this guy is. I get it that sponsorships can be hard to come by, but knowing that he cheated on a former Miss CT with his soon to be wife (a former Miss America) and knowing that he cheated on her as well, I wouldn't want any of the girls in the CT program anywhere near him. Shame on the CT Board for continuing to accept this sponsorship. (NT) -- No name, 07:37:51 09/25/16 Sun
        • continued: and since you're not from CT, maybe you should allow those who are speak their truth. Relying on the girls being "smart" doesn't always protect them from a sexual predator. (NT) -- No name, 07:39:28 09/25/16 Sun
• I always thought that Johnny Mac's pronunciation of the phrase "ALLS it takes" was just sloppy diction. I hear that alot here in CT. But, was shocked the first time I heard it come out of Alyssa's mouth. (NT) -- No name, 08:21:00 09/25/16 Sun

• She was a finalist, right? Therefore not eligible to be a non-finalist talent winner, and prob in the top 5 talents her night but not #1 (NT) -- No name (Not hard to undrstand), 00:56:15 09/25/16 Sun
  • Wasn't sure she was a finalist. Thanks. (NT) -- d..., 06:56:29 09/25/16 Sun
• LA was a semi-finalist. Only the T10 are considered finalists. (NT) -- No name, 07:25:15 09/25/16 Sun

• I don't know if it is true or not, but it would not surprise me in the least. (NT) -- No name, 05:04:42 09/23/16 Fri
• I would LOVE to be an LED again, I cannot afford the cost that the State of Texas organization requires. It is just too much money for a local pageant to spend. (NT) -- No name, 06:02:57 09/23/16 Fri
• Nonprofits are required to submit their financial statements to the IRS, and both the nonprofits and IRS are required to make those available to anyone who asks. Nonprofits must allow inspection of those records at their office during regular business hours. If you don't want to travel to MAO office to inspect them, you can try searching on Foundation Center at http://fdncenter.org and GuideStar at www.guidestar.org. The disclosure you are looking for is Form 990. (NT) -- No name, 09:08:37 09/23/16 Fri
  • Yet so many locals are not in compliance, and are documented as such on the IRS website. (NT) -- No name, 16:07:06 09/23/16 Fri
    • Again, in compliance with what? (NT) -- No name, 20:41:09 09/24/16 Sat
• If this is true I'm done. I've already got one foot out the door. I love my girls but I can no longer support this egotistical maniac. I don't know how to research all that will someone smarter than me see what you can find. I would love to see what kind of crap he expenses. This frivolous spending is off the sweat of our backs and we deserve to know. We must unite and no longer sit silent. (NT) -- Disgusted, 11:10:28 09/23/16 Fri
• Miss American Organization is a 501(c)4. There is a Miss America Foundation, which is a 501(c)3 nonprofit. Sam Haskell is a board member on both. Click in for links to public financial info. -- Very interesting, 12:42:16 09/23/16 Fri
  • Do the states pay for Sam to travel to their pageants? (NT) -- No name, 13:42:13 09/23/16 Fri
  • Thank you for the links (NT) -- No name, 13:46:21 09/23/16 Fri
• I was with the delegation who picked Sam up at the airport for our state pageant, he was on a commercial flight. (NT) -- No name, 13:37:23 09/23/16 Fri
• Hear this was happening the past 2 years how do we see those records? (NT) -- No name, 14:55:30 09/23/16 Fri
• Do states pay when an MAO Board member comes to their pageant? (NT) -- No name, 17:29:35 09/23/16 Fri
• 2013 travel expenses on form 990 -- No name, 19:55:37 09/23/16 Fri
• Interesting. I had lunch with a few formers recently and we talked about the decline of the program and one thing we all agreed on is Sam needs to go in order to have any shot at reviving it back to the glory days. One of the formers brought up hearing this rumor from someone pretty high up but she promised not to reveal. Apparently this staffer said it's common knowledge his spending is out of control and many are just praying one if those investigating reporters don't dig deep. This brought on talk by us that maybe we need that to happen so we can clean house and get a new board and save the system. I've rehashed the conversation we had in my head a million times and I just get sadder each time. He must be stopped. How can we make it happen? (NT) -- No name, 12:45:37 09/24/16 Sat
  • Go to the press and expose him to the media. That's the only way. (NT) -- No name, 14:12:49 09/24/16 Sat
    • anyone close with Robin Meade?? (NT) -- No name, 21:47:10 09/24/16 Sat
  • I agree completely. What happened with the Ohio license in early 2015 showed us that the problem wasn't just our state but was tied to the national staff. No point in fighting for change on the state level if they're in bed with the national program. I'd love to talk to Kate or Mallory. (NT) -- Would love to see this program focused on the young women, mentoring, and scholarships., 21:57:23 09/24/16 Sat
    • What do Kate or Mallory have to do with the current facts? Nether are closely affiliated with the program. Kate is a voice of reason but somehow, Mallory thinks she is speaking "the truth" but comes across as polarizing and alienating. It's tough to make changes when you are viewed that way by many. They both have clearly stated their opinions and they are valuable, but they both are powerless after that in correcting the situation. And they are beginning to beat a dead horse. It's time for ACTION. Enough with all of the opinions. Either the Board takes action or they can run it in to the ground..the signs are there. (NT) -- No name, 00:34:48 09/25/16 Sun
• The AC paper loves to investigate (NT) -- No name, 16:51:35 09/24/16 Sat
• http://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-to-fly-on-a-private-jet-for-under-200-per-person-2014-07-01 (NT) -- He may be taking advantage of empty leg flights., 01:51:26 09/25/16 Sun
  • I have looked into those and they are so few and far between and basically are LA to Vegas 99% of the time. (NT) -- No name, 02:51:33 09/25/16 Sun
    • There are some to/from NJ (NT) -- No name, 02:58:17 09/25/16 Sun
• I don't ever remember any problems when Al Marks was in charge. (NT) -- No name, 07:04:56 09/25/16 Sun

• Congratulations (NT) -- No name, 23:29:27 09/24/16 Sat
  • Should be announced like this on the telecast. Come on already. (NT) -- d..., 23:47:38 09/24/16 Sat
• Who posted these? Did someone make them? (NT) -- d..., 06:57:49 09/25/16 Sun

• Congratulations. (NT) -- No name, 23:30:19 09/24/16 Sat
• Anyone have a link to a video of her dancing? I'd like to see it. (NT) -- No name, 00:57:09 09/25/16 Sun
• Lovely outfit. (NT) -- No name, 01:57:22 09/25/16 Sun

• Sorry, but Mississippi completely blew her question. The question had nothing to do about equality in the workplace, but about inappropriate behavior. She was my choice up until the final question. Also, Maryland gave a very wishy washy answer. It was like she started with one train of thought and then completely went in another direction. I thought Washington did the best job of answering her final question of the Top 7. (NT) -- No name, 22:11:18 09/24/16 Sat
• New York gave an awesome answer. Definitely ranked her OSQ as 1 or 2. (NT) -- No name, 22:36:04 09/24/16 Sat
• http://www.therebel.media/miss_america_contest_mixes_politics_with_pleasure_and_makes_comedy (NT) -- No name, 23:21:05 09/24/16 Sat
• MS totally choked on the question. This example should be used for contestants in training as an example of not listening to the question and then responding to what you are asked. That being said, I don't think it's easy to do OSQ on finals night...but she did choke. (NT) -- No name, 00:29:53 09/25/16 Sun

• Congratulations (NT) -- No name, 14:07:49 09/19/16 Mon
• KT Maviglia is competing at Miss Michigan USA (NT) -- No name, 07:43:29 09/23/16 Fri
• Very happy for her (NT) -- No name, 07:11:05 09/24/16 Sat
• http://www.pageantupdate.info/miss-usa-2017-former-mao-maoteen-titleholders.html (NT) -- oz-usb, 07:56:32 09/24/16 Sat
  • Thank you (NT) -- No name, 23:34:16 09/24/16 Sat

• RANKINGS CLICK IN -- Collage Queen, 03:25:17 09/22/16 Thu
  • I can think of at least 6 Miss VAs who made the top 10, including Pam Polk, Heidi Lammi, Shamnon Dupuy, the SS winner who played "Malagueña, (NT) -- And two talent winners from the 60s, 13:21:17 09/22/16 Thu
    • Dorcas Campbell, Cherie Suzanne Davis and Nancy Redd (NT) -- No name, 15:30:36 09/22/16 Thu
      • I went based off the wikipedia page, but maybe I missed a lot of them. I knew it wouldn't be perfect. I was doing this at like midnight (NT) -- Collage Queen, 22:24:46 09/22/16 Thu
        • There is a bracket at the top of the wikipedia page that I used and there is only 1 person listed in the Top 10, so I apologize for the mess up (NT) -- No name, 22:25:41 09/22/16 Thu
          • Only Caitlin Uze, and I did not count her (NT) -- No name, 12:43:32 09/24/16 Sat
• What years does this list represent? (NT) -- No name, 06:18:13 09/22/16 Thu
  • It looks like all years. And only states/areas that still compete. There was also Canada, Virgin Islands and Canal Zone. (NT) -- No name, 06:21:00 09/22/16 Thu
• Crowned blog just posted this too with pictures and trivia. (NT) -- No name, 09:07:02 09/22/16 Thu
  • I'm surprised Colorado was that low. (NT) -- No name, 11:34:43 09/22/16 Thu
• Betty Thompson is the ONLY Miss Oklahoma to ever finish as 1st runnerup at Miss America. I have the complete list of every Miss Oklahoma and her placement. We include it as part of our local pageant program book every year. (NT) -- sorry---your list is inaccurate, 11:06:37 09/23/16 Fri
  • Bettye Averyt, Miss Oklahoma 1939 was first runner up to Patricia Donnelly. Averyt became a New York model, married a wealthy oitman Howard Keck, and was the owner of a Kentucky Derby winner. (NT) -- No name, 11:57:32 09/23/16 Fri
    • we didnt have that in our records! thank you for the correction! (NT) -- miss o local, 13:31:37 09/23/16 Fri
      • https://obscureactresses.wordpress.com/2015/09/08/bettye-avery/ - great article about Bettye (NT) -- No name, 19:49:15 09/23/16 Fri
• Also---according to MAO records, only 3 states---Ohio, Oklahoma, and California have had 6 winners. (NT) -- agree---your list needs work!, 11:08:06 09/23/16 Fri
  • I went based off of the Wikipedia pages for each state. (NT) -- No name, 12:33:38 09/23/16 Fri
    • Wikipedia lists only 5 New York winners, not 6. Wikipedia is really the best source for information on MAO anywhere - even the MAO official website has next to nothing as far as historical information. Wiki has tons of information concerning the MAO - and most all of it is very accurate! (NT) -- No name, 13:27:08 09/23/16 Fri
      • NY has had six winners: Bess, Tawny, Vanessa and the three-peat (NT) -- No name, 13:36:53 09/23/16 Fri
  • my guess is that the list did mot include vanessa williams--probably was not considered to be officially a miss america until the pageant last year "reinstated her" (NT) -- fan, 13:34:30 09/23/16 Fri
    • Vanessa has always been officially recognized as Miss America (a) of that year. (NT) -- No name, 17:42:44 09/23/16 Fri
    • List does include Vanessa as well as her replacement (NT) -- No name, 18:03:57 09/23/16 Fri
• Hawaii didn't enter the Miss America Pageant until 1948 -- Kamana Wana Lei U, 17:56:19 09/23/16 Fri
• Your work in creating this collage is greatly appreciated. However, we have discovered that Wikipedia has some errors. Maybe with the input of the visitors to this board, corrections can be made... (NT) -- No name, 19:26:28 09/23/16 Fri
  • Wikipedia has fewer mistakes than some of the state websites. And usually more information, things like local pageant, talent selections, etc. (NT) -- No name, 20:03:34 09/24/16 Sat
    • Could you correct the mistakes on Wikipedia? (NT) -- No name, 23:31:54 09/24/16 Sat

• All you have to do is contact MAO org and let them know. Maybe Sam will bring her to meet you on a private jet. (NT) -- No name, 20:06:46 09/24/16 Sat

• there is a guy who sells the dvds of many pageants Look up Toms pageant page (NT) -- No name, 21:17:55 09/24/16 Sat

• Not as drunk as could have been. Only 2 states said "I'm YOUR Miss State". But lots of talk about being blessed and lifelong friends. Someone told me a former Miss State tried to create her own drinking game, but it was too complicated. Stay tuned for next year..... (NT) -- No name, 18:44:38 09/23/16 Fri
  • haha, just watched the pageant and Betty says during her final walk "I'm YOUR Miss America 2016" So you could have taken 3 shots. (NT) -- No name, 12:26:56 09/24/16 Sat
• i do not know i drank coffee (NT) -- No name, 16:58:08 09/24/16 Sat
• It was a tough night for us gamers, especially with Sam on stage. (NT) -- No name, 20:09:36 09/24/16 Sat

• Announced yesterday the 1st runner-up Savannah Skidmore (correct name?) will take over. I believe she is young enough to finish the year, sit out and then re-compete if she wants to go to Miss America. Has happened three times before in California, Illinois & Wisconsin. (NT) -- No name, 05:44:05 09/13/16 Tue
  • Yes....she will have one more year to compete before aging out if she chooses. (NT) -- No name, 07:15:20 09/16/16 Fri
    • She is gorgeous! Also, that would have been my favorite gown in Atlantic City this year. (NT) -- No name, 11:29:23 09/16/16 Fri
• Yes, the new Miss Arkansas is Savannah Skidmore. Savvy's real first name is also Savannah. (NT) -- No name, 22:28:30 09/15/16 Thu
• Miss Arkansas also announced that they will be giving her an extra $15,000 so that her earnings are as much as Savvy's when she won Miss AR. That program is remarkable! (NT) -- No name, 00:25:43 09/16/16 Fri
  • Miss Arkansas has a great director, who honestly would be an amazing Miss America director as well. From our scholarship foundation "Savvy Shields earned $25,000 as Miss Arkansas and $50,000 as Miss America to pursue her academic and professional dreams. Savannah Skidmore earned $10,000 as First Runner Up but will now assume the role as Miss Arkansas 2016. The Miss Arkansas Scholarship Foundation is thrilled to award Savannah with an additional $15,000 to add up to the $25,000 scholarship promised to Miss Arkansas 2016. As a nonprofit organization that believes in empowering women through scholarship, this is a dream come true! Congratulations to both ladies!" (NT) -- Scholarship City, 11:20:35 09/16/16 Fri
  • Wow! Now that's awesome! I just looked at the Arkansas website, and just like the poster above wrote, the cash prizes are remarkable! (NT) -- Mary ❤️, 11:21:57 09/16/16 Fri
  • Wow! Way to go Arkansas, what an amazing example of what this program is supposed to be about! (NT) -- No name, 11:26:09 09/16/16 Fri
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  (NT) -- Here is Savannah Skidmore, 11:24:13 09/16/16 Fri
• She's a knock out! Wow! (NT) -- Mary ❤️, 11:35:55 09/16/16 Fri
  • She's a stunner! (NT) -- No name, 13:19:49 09/19/16 Mon
• I can't imagine what going into your state pageant interview after being in this scenario. Like "hello, yes I can prove that I can do the job and I'm more qualified than the other contestants because I already did it for 11 months." Hands down you win the crown again. (NT) -- No name, 11:49:58 09/16/16 Fri
  • You have to sit out for a year if you assume the title though. That's why some girls choose not to take it. (NT) -- No name, 14:05:51 09/16/16 Fri
  • Actually, I don't think it is as easy as it may seem. I know a number of girls who took over the crown have tried to win it straight out and didn't. As mentioned here, there have only been 3 girls who have actually done it. A bit of added trivia - Miss Illinois, Michelle LaGroue, took over for Ericka Harold and was in a near-death auto accident nearly a month after taking over the title. She overcame a serious brain injury to come back and then win the title straight out. (NT) -- No name, 14:54:00 09/16/16 Fri
    • I think you are confusing Michellr with Shauna Pender, who was Ericka Dunlap's Florida 1RU back in 2004, and who took over the Florida title when Dunlap won Miss America. Pender never returned to win a trip to Miss America, but you are correct that LaGroue did. (NT) -- No name, 00:51:14 09/17/16 Sat
      • LaGroue and Pender both were seriously injured in auto accidents. I had heard about Pender but just read in the last year or so an online article about LaGroue. Courageous ladies, both of them. (NT) -- No name, 08:59:08 09/17/16 Sat
        • It was a weird situation: We had 2 MA named Ericka in a row (IL and FL.) IL Ericka crowned a girl who was all set to move to NYC (already had an apartment) when the opportunity to take over the Miss IL crown presented itself. Michelle officially got the crown in October. In Nov. her car was hit (driver's side - she was driving) by a car going over 60 miles an hour. She was airlifted to a hospital and put in the Neuroscience Intensive Critical Care Unit as she suffered a serious brain injury (plus a couple other injuries.) The next year, Shauna was living in NYC when she got the news she could take over the FL crown. About a month after she took over the title, a semi-truck that was packed top heavy, fell over on the highway and crushed her car, she was in the backseat and got the greatest impact. She also suffered a severe TBI plus even more serious injuries. (NT) -- No name, 10:33:41 09/17/16 Sat
• It is interesting that both women have the same first name...Savannah (Savvy) Janine Shields and now her runner-up replacement as Miss Arkansas 2016, Savannah Jere Skidmore!! (NT) -- And good news for Miss Skidmore, at 22 she will likely have one or two years to try later for Miss Arkansas to go to Miss America., 14:19:09 09/16/16 Fri
  • and the same initials. Love Savvy and the new Miss Arkansas is stunning! (NT) -- No name, 10:15:51 09/17/16 Sat
• Beautiful. Hope she will eventually get to the Miss America stage. (NT) -- No name, 04:02:29 09/23/16 Fri
  • OH MY GOD! Yes, honey! Gorgeous gorgeous gorgeous! (NT) -- Mary ❤️, 08:16:12 09/23/16 Fri
    • She is BEAUTIFUL! (NT) -- No name, 09:34:25 09/23/16 Fri
  • I'm pretty sure once you accept the state title, you are no longer able to compete at Miss America. (NT) -- No name, 09:44:56 09/23/16 Fri
    • Yes you are. You must sit out that year but if you have enough years of eligibility left you can compete for state title outright. Read posts above. Laura Keppler's successor did it. Others have as well. But at 22 she actually may be too old to come back, all depends on when She turns 23. (NT) -- No name, 09:55:41 09/23/16 Fri
      • She has spoken about it locally on a radio show that she would be able to come back and compete after she gives up her Miss AR title. I hope she does. Can you imaging how that interview will go. "So what make you think you're prepared for the job of Miss ARkansas?" (NT) -- No name, 10:35:26 09/23/16 Fri
      • This is a lie. I'm not an idiot...I know the rules (NT) -- No name, 18:03:35 09/24/16 Sat
        • Apparently you are an idiot.... (NT) -- No name, 19:47:33 09/24/16 Sat
        • There have been other girls who've taken over the title and then competed and won the title and went on to MA. The rules state you can only WIN one state title. Assuming it after another girl has won a higher title is not the same as out right winning it. -- I'm not for bashing people but you're setting yourself up for it when you say things like "I'm not an idiot", 20:08:11 09/24/16 Sat
  • Probably not. Fans don't like their winners to be beautiful. (NT) -- No name, 12:02:16 09/23/16 Fri
• Beautiful girl! Is it just me or does her crown look a little different? Maybe a little more upright than the typical state crown? I think I like it better.... (NT) -- No name, 10:40:53 09/23/16 Fri
  • It might just be the Angel. I hope it's legit . (NT) -- She's really beautiful, 16:48:07 09/23/16 Fri
    • Omgosh, yes, she is an angel! (NT) -- No name, 17:28:44 09/23/16 Fri
      • Yes I saw I transposed the l and e. Ha ha (NT) -- No name, 23:42:50 09/23/16 Fri
  • The crown looks like those from the 1980's. (NT) -- Less angled, thicker base...., 17:28:05 09/23/16 Fri
    • it does -- No name, 20:00:15 09/23/16 Fri
      • maybe they lent her an old one till a new oneccould beordered (NT) -- No name, 09:09:06 09/24/16 Sat
        • That is the case. One is on order. (NT) -- No name, 09:43:29 09/24/16 Sat

• Congratulations. (NT) -- No name, 03:54:31 09/23/16 Fri
  • NH was my favorite vocalist. Her voice filled Boardwalk Hall. (NT) -- No name, 11:34:05 09/23/16 Fri
• Congratulations to Caroline. Such a wonderful young lady and talent. Happy 19th birthday today! (NT) -- No name, 18:18:10 09/23/16 Fri
• Here is her performance at MA - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rdCRHHYUHs (NT) -- No name, 09:52:33 09/24/16 Sat
• I am from the south and she was THE NE contestant to make finals for me. Absolutely love her! (NT) -- No name, 10:25:17 09/24/16 Sat
• I just watched it. THIS is what im talking about. The general public doesnt care about a 7 minute panel interview worth 35%, they want to see talent (NT) -- LucidDreams, 19:10:18 09/24/16 Sat
  • I loved NH. She was a surprise for me. Her placement of the 1st talent, 1st night was not ideal. I wish MAO would showcase some of the talent America didn't see. Michigan was amazing as was Illinois and North Caroline. I read NH and MD wanted to travel with the USO, too bad MAO couldn't set them up. (NT) -- No name, 19:50:41 09/24/16 Sat

• Can these be posted as active links? I hate trying to cut and past on a phone (NT) -- No name, 11:23:03 09/24/16 Sat
  • This should be mandatory for all pageant fans. These girls get it (NT) -- No name, 17:25:09 09/24/16 Sat
• This was great! I agreed with so much of this. Lol (NT) -- No name, 18:26:48 09/24/16 Sat

• No one then? (NT) -- No name, 11:19:46 09/24/16 Sat
• KY, PA, VA are all commonwealths, as is MA (NT) -- No name, 12:41:34 09/24/16 Sat

• How to grow participation? Stop with the platforms and the massive amount of hoops the girls have to jump through. Our state has 100+ do USA at $1500 a pop! They prep a little, show up with a bathing suit and gown and walk. No 20 page contracts, no nit picky little crap, no hidden costs, no required platforms. I don't want to dumb down MAO, but these girls are fabulous on their own without all the requirements. Make it simple to compete. (NT) -- No name, 10:43:23 09/21/16 Wed
  • No contracts would be an awesome improvement. The only one who truly needs to possibly sign a contract is Miss State not all the local title holders (NT) -- No name, 12:15:42 09/21/16 Wed
    • they definately need lots of revision.. it is ridiculous (NT) -- No name, 19:33:09 09/21/16 Wed
      • This year local contracts are 25 pages. (NT) -- ---, 19:39:31 09/21/16 Wed
  • I completely disagree. Platforms are a large part of what makes MA unique, and it pushes the girls to get involved with their communities and make a positive difference in the world around them. Why would you EVER want to take that away? The girls who don't want to put in the work can go to Miss USA and be happy there. (NT) -- No name, 17:27:48 09/21/16 Wed
    • not really. We had contestants that changed theirs after winning miss state and cmn has put a crimp on promoting a personal platform. Sorry it's time has come and gone. Maybe 4000 women nationally compete a year something has to change. It's also no secret there are platforms thr national pageant and some states wouldn't touch. (NT) -- No name, 01:36:20 09/22/16 Thu
• My opinion, to expensive to come and stay from Tuesday to Monday. After Prelims are over you have to wait until Sunday for the Big Show. Not enough to do in the down time. I know there is the shoe parade and the trade show. (NT) -- No name, 10:46:04 09/21/16 Wed
  • The Trade Show has gotten smaller and smaller. It's pitiful and really not worth attending. (NT) -- IMHO, 11:27:01 09/21/16 Wed
• Miss America/Ticketmaster need to stop offering "season" tickets. State delegations buy them due to the reduced cost even though they aren't arriving for preliminary competition. Tuesday night's crowd was somewhere between 500 to 1,000. The worst I've ever seen in 40 years of attendance. (NT) -- No name, 10:50:30 09/21/16 Wed
  • I wish they would have prelims wed-friday and then the parade sat and the show sunday....7 days is a lot of time to take off.... (NT) -- No name, 12:59:48 09/21/16 Wed
  • are you kidding it was under 500, it could have been in a high school auditorium (NT) -- No name, 21:34:45 09/21/16 Wed
• Local numbers are way down in my state. Most recent ones only had 3 to 4 contestants. (NT) -- No name, 14:05:12 09/21/16 Wed
  • Same in my state - or 8 contestants for 2 crowns. (NT) -- No name, 14:25:34 09/21/16 Wed
• The hidden costs are killing the program. (NT) -- No name, 14:07:14 09/21/16 Wed
  • Another reason to invite new grads and young professionals (through age 26) to complete, fundraise for CMN, sell ad pages, network for the program. (NT) -- No name, 16:14:18 09/21/16 Wed
• Too expensive to compete and too many hoops to jump through. Here's a novel idea - let's make it EASY to compete not HARD. Too many hidden costs. Ad sales, fundraising, paperwork, meetings, tickets, red tape. Women who are actually talented and accomplished do not have time for all that ridiculous crap. (NT) -- No name, 17:56:13 09/21/16 Wed
• yes. they need to simplify the process and shorten the state pageant week by a day and the national pageant by several days. (NT) -- that is my opionion, 19:34:43 09/21/16 Wed
• Here is a reason for the POOR turnout. WHY start the Prelims on Tuesday? And then have basically nothing except for the parade between Thursday and Sunday? There is absolutely no reason why they cannot do this pageant on Wednesday-Sunday and still include the Parade, In fact they could have the Parade on Wednesday and start the pageant on Thursday ! (NT) -- No name, 21:33:22 09/21/16 Wed
  • The reason is obvious and has been discussed on this board many times. MAO has to represent to the city of Atlantic City that many people will come and occupy hotel rooms and spend the money in the city and along the boardwalk during that week. The last thing they are going to do is cut the week short so that people are not staying in the hotels as long. I wonder how successful the plan is working, given that overall attendance is down and many people attend the preliminary nights and then head home and watch the final night of the pageant back in their home state. (NT) -- No name, 00:40:39 09/22/16 Thu
    • Well move it somewhere else where you don't have to "represent the city". I was told the awful outside intros were because MAO has to "represent the city". Tell Atlantic City goodbye! (NT) -- No name, 07:28:48 09/22/16 Thu
  • I actually liked the shoe parade better in Las Vegas. (NT) -- No name, 00:59:55 09/22/16 Thu
    • Seriously? There is NOTHING like the parade in AC. Not sure how you could even say that??? (NT) -- No name, 05:45:04 09/22/16 Thu
      • SEPTEMBER 11th. That's the main reason it was quiet this year. (NT) -- No name, 07:02:51 09/22/16 Thu
        • Oh no disrespect to 9/11 but that wasnt the reason. Lack of promotion and advertising was the reason. (NT) -- No name, 07:37:25 09/22/16 Thu
          • Agree. I went to prelims and there wasn't nearly the amount of promotion on the boardwalk and in the casinos that I've seen in recent years past. And that's just AC! (NT) -- No name, 17:29:52 09/22/16 Thu
        • I agree somewhat. I know that we had about 10 people from my state say not this year, don't want to be in that Hall on 9/11. I also think the hype over the storm may have impacted. (NT) -- No name, 17:45:31 09/22/16 Thu
• first it needs to start at the local. Some states only have 4 and 5 contestants and they are winners that no one cares about not to be mean. (NT) -- No name, 08:41:01 09/22/16 Thu
  • I have to agree with this, but I don't know why we can no longer get competitive ladies. Speaking from a sash state, and 2011 was really the last year that the state pageant was exciting with highly competitive ladies. Out of 40-50 girls competing at state, there should be more than 5-6 that are top 10 worthy. (NT) -- No name, 10:54:53 09/22/16 Thu
• I am not sure why MA has to be held on a coast. If was held in a city in the middle of the country I think it would drive the numbers up because it would be more accessible to a larger number of people. (NT) -- No name, 10:43:45 09/22/16 Thu
  • MA was started in Atlantic City to extend the summer tourist season. That's why MA is on the East Coast. Also, MAO's deal with the casino redevelopment agency means that in Sep. 2017 & Sep. 2018, MA will be held in Atlantic City so we will have TWO more years of complaints about AC. (NT) -- Anon, 15:40:22 09/22/16 Thu
• When it was relocated they moved it to the west coast. The same with the teen in FL. Middle America just seems more fair. (NT) -- No name, 16:57:59 09/22/16 Thu
• 1) Get rid of the CMN pyramid scheme; 2) between STEM, CMN and personal platforms pick one and get rid of the rest (or ditch all of them); 3) if you are going to have talent, make it count in the final decision; 4) put some class back into the swimsuit competition; 5) shorten the contestant contract to 3 pages; 6) Pay Miss America for her actual appearance fees and stop paying her a 12,000 per month stipend while your CEO gets $500,000 per year. (NT) -- No name, 01:06:15 09/24/16 Sat
  • Love these ideas! A stipend for a non-profit CEO is incorrigible (NT) -- No name, 07:02:49 09/24/16 Sat
• we need to change the age out to 26, get with the times. it is ridiculous that the girls are too old for Miss A at 24. (NT) -- obvious, 09:47:40 09/24/16 Sat
• Boardwalk hall hasn't been filled FOR YEARS! (NT) -- No name, 10:51:15 09/24/16 Sat
• IMO Prelims are poorly attended because they are held too early in the week. Most people attending from out of the area dont travel to stay for the entire week. Especially with the finals on a Sunday. Seems like most folks arrive on Friday and leave on Monday. Also ticket prices are high! I "get" that we ont get Saturday night tv slot. I would rather prelims M, T. W parade TH and finals F. People could travel in Sat or Sun and leave on the following Sat. (NT) -- No name, 12:16:52 09/24/16 Sat

• Kudos to these strong state orgs. SC, FL, AL all placed in 2 of the last 3 years. (NT) -- No name, 20:02:41 09/18/16 Sun
  • Yes indeed! My bad! (NT) -- No name, 20:06:01 09/18/16 Sun
    • LA placed the past two years, too! (NT) -- No name, 22:20:18 09/18/16 Sun
      • But they had a dry spell except for Hope Anderson making Top 10 in 2011 and Kathryn Putnam in 2009. (NT) -- No name, 11:11:38 09/21/16 Wed
  • It should have been three in a row for Alabama and Florida (NT) -- No name, 08:23:03 09/19/16 Mon
    • Agreed. (NT) -- No name, 12:25:58 09/19/16 Mon
    • Yes, AL should have made it.Did she have a horrible interview? (NT) -- No name, 12:50:43 09/19/16 Mon
      • I don't think she does, being that she won all of the extra awards that included an interview. I think her talent really did nothing for her, and her gown was something that I personally have seen at many locals... I also saw it in prom photos. (NT) -- No name, 15:12:16 09/19/16 Mon
        • Her gown was a custom made gown, but yes, it was sort of bland. (NT) -- No name, 19:02:09 09/19/16 Mon
  • AL did not place in 2 of past 3 yrs. Placed last year, then not since 2007. (NT) -- No name, 01:09:26 09/20/16 Tue
    • Caitlin Brunell was top 10 two years ago. It is so ridiculous what some people write on this Board. In 96 years of Miss America History, Alabama has placed 49 times! We are proud of our History. This years Miss Alabama made Miss America History and we are proud of her and we do BELIEVE she was robbed of her rightful place in the top 5. Many national predictors also believe this. I will have to say that Georgia should have also been there. (NT) -- No name, 08:24:35 09/20/16 Tue
      • Agree with the Poster on Miss Alabama and Georgia. I gave Miss Alabama, 9's and 10's on Swimsuit and Evening Gown. All this talk about her gown,some loved it and some did not, that doesnt matter, it is about the girls poise, posture, and her walk and that is the reason I gave Miss Alabama 9's and 10's on Swimsuit and Gown. I have her a 9 on her onstage question. I gave her an 8 on talent due to its entertanment value. That is all most of the top 15 had. The only 9's gave in talent was Tenn., Mississippi, Texas, and SC. (NT) -- No name, 08:51:27 09/20/16 Tue
        • I'm glad you wasn't a judge. Texas a 9 in talent. She was big mystery to me why she went all the way top top 7. (NT) -- No name, 12:29:53 09/20/16 Tue
          • Was you there? Sometimes thangs is different life. (NT) -- No name, 17:56:32 09/20/16 Tue
• Maryland did not place the past two years. (NT) -- FYI, 21:32:33 09/18/16 Sun
  • Va has placed well the last two years. Not this year though (NT) -- No name, 23:37:55 09/18/16 Sun
    • Top 15 last year and 1st runner-up and then no.placements the years before that. (NT) -- So that is 40% or 2 out of five have placed in the past 5 years. Not a great ratio., 17:12:11 09/19/16 Mon
      • Uhhh not even. The two years before that were flukes. Virginia used to have this on again, off again pattern and then it got all mixed up with Desiree missing the cut. I won't go back too far because before Redd I didn't follow, but I'll go at least to 2004 Nancy Redd-ON, Mariah Rice-Off, Kristi Glakas-ON, Adrianna Sgarlata-Off, Hannah Kiefer-ON, Tara Wheeler-Off, Caressa Cameron-Obviously. Then Caitlin Uze messes it up and they are ON two years in a row with Elizabeth Crot right behind her being on. Then Rosemary and Desiree-Off. Courtney Garrett-Almost the winner ON, Savannah-Puzzingly ON but still ON and then whoever the girl is this year-Off. -- Virginia has this interesting swapping record but they make it fairly consistently, 20:14:10 09/19/16 Mon
        • And you just repeated exactly what I said has happened in the last FIVE years! (NT) -- So, Yep, that is what has happened. 40% in the last five years. Nothing in 2016, 2013, 2012!, 21:02:29 09/19/16 Mon
          • I missed the 5 year cut off. (NT) -- No name, 15:58:01 09/20/16 Tue
        • SGARLATA: totally robbed her year of a spot in the semis! I was there in person for every prelim night and most public events for another contestant, and that girl had "it". She was firmly in my top 5 going into finals. I'd love to know how she missed the first cut. (NT) -- ., 13:31:39 09/21/16 Wed
  • My bad, I thought MD had at least made the first cut. (NT) -- No name, 18:15:58 09/19/16 Mon
  • Maryland has placed 3 times out of the last 5 years. Guy, Denny and Brewer and of course after Brewer's showing there was nothing but complaints on the MD board. I kid you not. Thats my state. Never happy. (NT) -- Maryland, 23:34:44 09/19/16 Mon
    • I agree. Miss Maryland is beautiful and I think that has a lot to do with the hate that has been spewed from the people in Maryland, besides THEIR favorite girl didn't win. I don't think their favorite lady would have even made the top 15. (NT) -- No name, 10:05:41 09/21/16 Wed
• Maryland Has Done A Great Job -- Bart Perks, 06:58:35 09/19/16 Mon
• NY is back after a year hiatus. Not looking for that again (NT) -- Just saying...., 07:53:11 09/19/16 Mon
  • In the past nine years, NY has had three winners, two 2RUs, one 3RU and one top twelve contestants, along with two year of not placing. (NT) -- No name, 09:50:13 09/19/16 Mon
    • That's a great record. (NT) -- No name, 10:57:25 09/19/16 Mon
    • KM was a QOL finish too (NT) -- No name, 23:12:55 09/19/16 Mon
  • I have to say NY has done well. Last year NY didn't place but I feel it was a weird year because so many others I thought would didn't. Kudos to the MNY Org though because their girl did have a great year as a Miss State. They must be doing something right! (NT) -- No name, 11:20:45 09/20/16 Tue
• Mississippi in the last four years has had a top 15, top 10, first runner up, and now sencond runer up. We are definitely back!!!! (NT) -- No name, 17:52:30 09/19/16 Mon
  • Fourth runnerup, they are out of order in the pic at the top. (NT) -- No name, 18:05:12 09/19/16 Mon
    • LOL I meant 4th. I just think she should have been 2nd. lol (NT) -- No name, 19:04:20 09/19/16 Mon
• Interesting that PA has not had a viable candidate in years. (NT) -- No name, 01:51:17 09/20/16 Tue
  • And Pa will continue to send non-finalists. For such a big state, we have very few invested in the pageant and it shows. Pa used to be a powerhouse. If you could combine the talent, beauty and academic sucess of the two past and present Miss Pa's, we would have a top 15 representative. (NT) -- No name, 05:41:48 09/20/16 Tue
    • I think Chet had a better run when he was a local director than he was as a State Director. (NT) -- No name, 11:22:15 09/20/16 Tue
    • I thought PA was gorgeous this year and had to be way up there in SS. I loved her. (NT) -- No name, 17:53:05 09/20/16 Tue
    • When was PA a powerhouse? They have had a finalist here and there (6 top 10's in the last 30 years), but nothing major for a very long time. Can't blame Chet for that. (NT) -- No name, 10:54:51 09/21/16 Wed
      • The last time they were a powerhouse was in the 70's: one 2RU, one 3RU, two 4RU and three other semi-finalists. (NT) -- No name, 12:01:02 09/22/16 Thu
• Oklahoma in the past 15 years 2 Miss Americas , 1 1st ru, 3 2nd ru , 1 4th ru, 4 top 10, and 2 top 12 (NT) -- No name, 08:23:39 09/20/16 Tue
• IA has placed in 7 of the last 10 years with 1 2RU, 1 4RU, 3 T10 and 2 T12 (NT) -- No name, 07:24:24 09/24/16 Sat

• I'm sure one day it will be but for me, face piercings are gross. Why the tattoo on the back of the neck? Who is going to see it? Be different, don't follow the pack. Everybody and their Mama now have tattoos! (NT) -- No name, 12:20:16 09/23/16 Fri
• As someone who has competed and has both, I have been told to remove for facial piercings (a small nose ring) for appearances, but have been able to keep my tattoos visible. I think because I only have a very small conservative one on my wrist that I was allowed to keep it exposed, so it may be different depending on what it is and how distracting it is. (NT) -- Collage Queen, 12:36:33 09/23/16 Fri
  • did you compete with your face piercing. If you didn't did you decide to take it out on your own or did someone recommend it. (NT) -- No name, 12:53:08 09/23/16 Fri
• New York had 5-6 girls with tattoos this year. Multiple nose piercings. Mallory herself had tattoos when she competed and won. (NT) -- No name, 17:58:31 09/23/16 Fri
• I won't recruit a young woman with either one. Some people love tattoos and piercings and others hate them. When doing appearances, you have to be more conservative and it's better to remove them or cover them up (NT) -- No name, 01:00:52 09/24/16 Sat
• Thanks for the comments everyone! I'm meeting some beautiful talent girls but they all have these things. (NT) -- No name, 05:58:32 09/24/16 Sat

• (NT) -- No name, 02:34:17 09/22/16 Thu
• Congratulations. (NT) -- No name, 02:40:13 09/22/16 Thu
• I guess we now know who the best pianist was. (NT) -- No name, 03:10:47 09/22/16 Thu
  • she was no where near as good as Michigan (NT) -- No name, 05:43:26 09/22/16 Thu
    • OH MY GOSH, FUNNIEST THING POSTED HERE EVER! (NT) -- No name, 09:05:10 09/22/16 Thu
      • What's so funny? (NT) -- No name, 09:07:36 09/22/16 Thu
        • The commenter said she was nowhere as good as Michigan, and this is Miss Michigan haha! (NT) -- No name, 09:48:07 09/22/16 Thu
          • Sorry that was me lol I didnt think this picture looked anything like Michigan LOL (NT) -- No name, 13:44:55 09/22/16 Thu
            • I like you. (NT) -- 420, 20:42:33 09/22/16 Thu
• It is still surprising she did not make the top 15. She was so eloquent. How bad could her interview be? (NT) -- No name, 10:15:45 09/22/16 Thu
  • I agree her talent was exceptional. IMO, her SS and evening wear were quite weak (lower half easily). No idea about her interview. Maybe she just missed the cut--who knows? (NT) -- ., 10:45:27 09/22/16 Thu
    • I figure MI, GA, Perhaps DC had to be on the bubble to the 14/15. (NT) -- No name, 21:59:00 09/22/16 Thu
• What's with all these "participation" trophies? What next, 3rd Chair Floutist? Non-Finalist Best B-cup swimsuit award?? I just can't. This is such a slippery slope (NT) -- No name, 10:33:21 09/22/16 Thu
  • BEST talent I've seen in years. Goes to show you how much they need to pick a panel of judges who know what they're doing. (NT) -- No name, 11:32:30 09/22/16 Thu
  • Glad the ladies all have the opportunity for some extra scholarship dollars. After all, it is a scholarship pageant. (NT) -- Yes to the side awards!, 13:20:48 09/22/16 Thu
  • What are you talking about? Nothing different from usual years. (NT) -- No name, 20:51:33 09/22/16 Thu
• Her performance in Atlantic City was far better than her state performances. Is there a video of her MAO preliminary winning talent performance? (NT) -- No name, 14:24:35 09/22/16 Thu
  • There was on nj.com but it was removed within hours by MAO. Very strange. Savvy's prelim talent performance is still up though along with a few others. (NT) -- very strange indeed, 17:27:23 09/22/16 Thu
• The conspiracy theorist in me thinks that TPTB didn't want Michigan in the top 15 because she did have the best talent (NT) -- No name, 18:36:11 09/22/16 Thu
  • Or she had an undeniably strong talent and average swim/EG/interview which bumped her out of top 15. (NT) -- No name, 18:59:53 09/22/16 Thu
    • That leaves interview as the culprit because her SS and EG were good. Not over hyped, just didn't connect with the judges. It really is a crap shoot. (NT) -- No name, 20:47:13 09/22/16 Thu
• My total speculation is they didn't want a Miss America who would enter the political conversation. She would have talked about immigration. That's why many thought she would do well. But as we saw with Savvy, the didn't want her to answer political questions after she won. (NT) -- No name, 22:02:30 09/22/16 Thu
  • So much for wanting someone who is "relevant". (NT) -- No name, 23:06:25 09/22/16 Thu
    • Relevant =fine...polarizing the first few days after winning in an election year = SMART (NT) -- No name, 07:41:33 09/23/16 Fri
      • I mean ^^^ SMART not to do it. Why give even 50% of the people that like you reason to doubt you and your convictions. (NT) -- No name, 07:43:23 09/23/16 Fri
  • So, they didn't let Betty talk, and now they aren't letting Savvy talk. (NT) -- No name, 10:40:11 09/23/16 Fri
• Just remember when you make next years predictions. They are crowning Miss Dick Clark Productions. Cute, perky, television ready. (NT) -- No name, 07:35:27 09/23/16 Fri
  • That is so true ^ (NT) -- No name, 09:50:53 09/23/16 Fri
  • Nahh, Savvy absolutely won the judges' hearts. (NT) -- No name, 10:39:19 09/23/16 Fri
• Savvy said she and the other contestants were awe struck by Chris Harrison. She said they wanted to know about the Bachelor in Paradise finale. Very Cute. Brain surgeons need not apply. (NT) -- No name, 11:24:25 09/23/16 Fri
  • Save is just a little to cheesy for me. I wanted a real girl not a pageant patty. I guess Betty was too real. (NT) -- No name, 11:35:38 09/23/16 Fri
    • According to Betty, she was not real during her reign; she is now the real Betty since she gave up her crown. (NT) -- No name, 13:47:56 09/23/16 Fri
      • Betty's finance -- sad, 18:51:45 09/23/16 Fri
        • He has definitely hitched himself to her little wagon; he is thanking all "their" fans for all "their" success. (NT) -- No name, 19:13:51 09/23/16 Fri
• .......I guess its only appropriate or at least a coincidence that this Louanne Gamba Instrumentalist Scholarship announcement be seen today, September 23 (NT) -- as it was exactly six years ago that Louanne died on September 22, 2010, see obituary here: http://www.thequinnfuneralhome.com/obituary/Louanne-Gamba/_/1045219, 16:41:31 09/23/16 Fri
• You ever think he may mean thanks as in the support of their relationship during Bettys reign, most dont survive. (NT) -- No name, 21:22:58 09/23/16 Fri
  • Must have bombed her interview. (NT) -- Michigan, 23:45:52 09/23/16 Fri
    • You realize that some well-educated girls don't always make 15. It is probably hard for them to connect with uneducated judges. (NT) -- When you dumb down judges, you get what we have had for a couple of years now., 05:25:25 09/24/16 Sat

• (NT) -- No name, 00:35:32 09/12/16 Mon
• IMO, OK looked bone thin in SS. I remember seeing her in pics from past years at state. Did I just never notice that before? (NT) -- No name, 12:38:42 09/12/16 Mon
  • I thought OK looked great in SS along with MD and SC. OK has a very slender build, but muscle definition and looks healthy to me. (NT) -- No name, 12:41:46 09/12/16 Mon
    • OK looked great! (NT) -- No name, 13:32:36 09/19/16 Mon
• So glad some of the girls really brought it for EG, instead of going with the normal white gown. What I love seeing every year are gowns like MD, TN, OK, AR, SC. (NT) -- No name, 01:31:55 09/15/16 Thu
  • the two that 'brought it' in your opinion did not get past the EG phase to do their talents and win Miss America - so maybe they should not have brought so much lol (NT) -- No name, 04:41:30 09/15/16 Thu
    • That was due to total overall points not because of evening gown alone. (LOL) (NT) -- No name, 04:47:29 09/15/16 Thu
      • This was due to Dick Productions already having the winner chosen (NT) -- No name, 10:37:55 09/23/16 Fri
        • When do they interview all the contestants and when do they choose the new Miss America? What criteria is used and how do they let the judges know? (NT) -- No name, 17:47:28 09/23/16 Fri
• I love Maryland's expression in this pic, "Are some of these gown for real?" LOL (NT) -- No name, 18:59:00 09/23/16 Fri
• My home state rep in that hideous gown still haunts my dreams. And her Miss USA wanna be swimsuit pose looks stupid (NT) -- LucidDreams, 23:43:38 09/23/16 Fri

• Bert's statue is still in front of the Sheraton. Mallory's is on the Boardwalk. (NT) -- No name, 10:52:41 09/21/16 Wed
  • Thank you! Good to know (NT) -- No name, 10:57:02 09/21/16 Wed
• They got the song back a couple of years ago maybe even last year but my confusion is that it only played in boardwalk hall this year. It did not play on TV, it was a different song. (NT) -- No name, 14:17:15 09/21/16 Wed
  • "There She Is" is great for the coronation walk down the runway on the telecast, however they should bring back "Look At Here, She's our Miss America" for the runway walk of the outgoing Miss America on the telecast. (NT) -- Does anyone know the lyrics to "Look At Her" and "Now the dream has come true, she is our Miss America, the one we've been waiting for"...??? Two great MA pageant songs from the 1980s., 15:31:59 09/21/16 Wed
    • yeah...I know the lyrics to both versions. (NT) -- No name, 09:55:04 09/22/16 Thu
    • They used to play "Look At Her" when they introduced the outgoing queen at the beginning of the pageant. Then the final walks had a song, "Miss America, you're beautiful, you've added lustre to the crown you wear" and additional lyrics about every runway you walk will still be your runway. You can find videos on You Tube (NT) -- No name, 18:39:39 09/23/16 Fri
  • It played on TV, I heard it and made my husband stop talking so I could hear it and relish the moment! (ha!) (NT) -- No name, 16:01:10 09/21/16 Wed
    • ...what played?? "Look At Her, She's Our Miss America".......I did not hear that last week.....but they did play "There She Is" as ABC and the producers rushed the ending of the show....and noticed how they wanted to escort the judges over by the contestants. (NT) -- Anyone know the lyrics to these three Miss America pageant songs?, 17:38:17 09/21/16 Wed
• I noticed it too! I know that MAO and the Bernie Wayne estate had difficulties coming to a resolution regarding use of the song (credit and royalties), hence why a different song was being used for the crowning. I guess it was recently resolved. (NT) -- MLB, 15:43:27 09/21/16 Wed
  • It was done at the pageant last year.... (NT) -- No name, 15:53:27 09/21/16 Wed
• They got the song back last year, 2015. That song has been back and forth since 1997, the first time Bernie Wayne's estate tried to sue the MAO over the rights. In this day and age they should have a contest for a new song, with a concrete contract that MAO owns the song forever. (NT) -- No name, 08:51:25 09/22/16 Thu
  • So they used the song but didn't air it on Television so they didn't have to buy the rights to it for broadcast. (NT) -- No name, 09:59:06 09/22/16 Thu
    • It aired on the broadcast I was watching. Regular ABC on a regular old TV with no Internet connection. (NT) -- No name, 16:19:40 09/22/16 Thu
      • It was very soft. I THOUGHT that was what I was hearing, but it wasn't sure it was Bert (NT) -- No name, 17:17:07 09/22/16 Thu
  • Bernie Wayne's estate OWNS the rights and MAO first lost the song after the 1981 pageant got it back in 85 or 86 then lost it again after they didn't get the proper licensing permission to play it. Good luck finding a songwriter that will turn over all of their publishing rights and potential royalties. (NT) -- No name, 18:13:42 09/22/16 Thu
    • That is why they should have a contest for a new song, with the legal specifics of the MAO "owning" the song rights, etc. Except for a few people, nobody knows "There She Is" anymore. The pageants tv ratings have dropped for years now, very,very few people have an interest in pageants and a lot less than they used to. In 1961 it was the most watched tv show of the year. Times change, and that song is irrevelent, (except to very very few) and any royalties from it today would be surprising. (NT) -- No name, 09:14:10 09/23/16 Fri
      • The estate gets paid every time the song gets played hence the licensing issue they had. (NT) -- No name, 13:29:14 09/23/16 Fri
        • Even more reason to get a new song (NT) -- No name, 14:30:57 09/23/16 Fri
          • That's pretty much standard. When a song gets played the owner whether it's the songwriter, their heirs or whoever bought the song rights gets paid for it to be played. You aren't going to find too many people that would surrender copyright/royalties. (NT) -- No name, 17:38:44 09/23/16 Fri
• My phone plays There She Is... as the ring tone. People usually laugh and say it's that the Miss America song? I love it! (NT) -- No name, 14:46:57 09/23/16 Fri
  • Love it! I had that ring tone and dedicated it just to my closest cousin (girl) so whenever she called, it played. It tickled me because she called me alot in those days (single), (NT) -- No name, 19:59:13 09/23/16 Fri

• Yes. As long as they were not under contract over Labor Day Weekend. (NT) -- No name, 20:04:58 09/19/16 Mon
• Here's a way a girl could have competed at state last season and this coming season AND in Sweetheart this year. Susie wins a local in July 2015 and competes at state June 2016. She crowns her local successor July 2016 therefore is no longer under contract with the MAO. As a "free agent" she can compete in Sweetheart Sept 2016. (For that matter she could do USA, International, NAM, USA and other 'like' pageants leading to a national title.) Despite competing in other pageants, she's perfectly eligible to enter an MAO local. If she loses the local, she could do another non-MAO pageant. It's not until she wins a local that she's back under contract with the MAO and therefore can not do any other 'like' pageant-- that leads to a National title. Sooo that means even while being an MAO local titleholder, Suzi can also win her town's 4th of July Pageant and be the local Blueberry Festival Queen and not violate the MAO contract because neither of these pageants progress to a National title. (NT) -- No name, 21:22:50 09/19/16 Mon
  • All MAO had to do is have an amendment to the contract that specifies that that contestants can still participate in the Sweetheart Pageant like they have for over 50 years. (NT) -- No name, 17:55:18 09/22/16 Thu
    • Why should they do that? It doesn't contribute to MAO (NT) -- No name, 17:18:59 09/23/16 Fri
• BUT there are some states where it was made VERY clear that you'd better NOT do it if you want to do well at state next summer (NT) -- No name, 21:29:16 09/19/16 Mon
  • Most state volunteers are part of this program to HELP women grow, mature, improve, and develop into confident leaders. I can't imagine a volunteer discouraging a growth opportunity. (NT) -- No name, 22:19:49 09/19/16 Mon
    • When are you people going to realize that people have their hands tied with this situation. I'm willing to bet money that any girl who enters sweetheart this year on will never win Miss America. You want your state to win MA? Make sure the girl who wins is FAR away from sweetheart. It's sad but it's true. Just like how girls are black balled (right word?) when they work with certain coaches and people that MA hates. -- Sweetheart will be no more for any girl who still has a dream to be MA, 23:26:04 09/19/16 Mon
      • When are you going to realize that NOT ALL states believe in the high handeness of the board (NT) -- No name, 21:44:45 09/20/16 Tue
      • Why is this? (NT) -- really confused, 20:52:30 09/22/16 Thu
      • Oh just stop it. Again, if you are under title you cannot participate in Sweetheart and keep that title MAO title at the same time. (NT) -- No name, 17:30:39 09/23/16 Fri
  • which states? (NT) -- >, 20:56:52 09/22/16 Thu
• Check with your State Director or your Local Director, or Both. (NT) -- No name, 22:25:56 09/19/16 Mon
  • because of timing i was a 2016 state 1st RU who was NOT under contract this summer. My state ED advised me in no uncertian terms NOT to compete at sweetheart (NT) -- No name, 10:27:20 09/22/16 Thu
    • Maybe your ED wanted you to focus on improving your spelling and grammar? (NT) -- No name, 07:40:38 09/23/16 Fri
      • Gotta love the typo nazis!! (NT) -- No name, 16:56:08 09/23/16 Fri
    • It's the same contract requirements as it has always been. If you have questions then get it in writing. (NT) -- No name, 17:27:42 09/23/16 Fri
• Further clarification: the girl cannot register for a MAO local until after she competes, and cannot register with Sweetheart until after passing on her title. The contract specifies that to compete, you cannot be a contestant in another pageant (etc etc). So you can go compete for USA and then a MAO local, but you can't register and have your contract notarized until after your USA pageant finishes. (NT) -- No name, 23:05:30 09/19/16 Mon
• Former Sweethearts did well at Miss America. MS in Top 5. TN in Top 10. OK in Top 12. ID in Top 15. (NT) -- No name, 05:43:46 09/20/16 Tue
  • They did so well and MAO is foolish for banning Sweetheart. They lose nothing and gain competent contestants (NT) -- No name, 06:50:08 09/22/16 Thu
    • They did so well when there were talented, competitive girls competing at Sweetheart. There were no 1st runner ups competing at Sweetheart, some did not make the T10 in their states. Unfortunately MAO made this wonderful pageant a county fair pageant. We will not see contenders at Miss America from Sweetheart. (NT) -- No name, 06:59:22 09/22/16 Thu
      • I find this confusing. We've had recent Miss America winners from other programs like NAM and High School America - strong contenders can come from ANYWHERE if they have a strong state program and are well prepared to compete in Atlantic City. (NT) -- No name, 07:22:23 09/22/16 Thu
        • Thank you! Any pageant can be competitive it DOES NOT have to be MAO! MAO is not the gold standard that so many think it is. (NT) -- No name, 10:56:29 09/22/16 Thu
          • Hope MAO is playing fair and excluding these pageants too (NT) -- No name, 16:48:54 09/23/16 Fri
      • Your opinion (NT) -- No name, 17:43:58 09/22/16 Thu
• Every single time I think about Sweetheart and what the dictator has done to ruin it I get so angry. For many years the Sweetheart has been zero threat to Miss America. The public outside that small town has zero clue about it so there would never be issues. This is just Sam flexing his power. (NT) -- No name, 02:22:20 09/23/16 Fri
  • I agree completely. It makes me sick to my stomach that Sam killed the Sweetheart pageant for NO GOOD REASON. It was not hurting anything or anyone, and it was a great experience for so many girls that never make it to Miss America. Why ruin a pageant that is good for your contestants and good for a small community? Because Sam is an EVIL DICTATOR. No other reason. (NT) -- No name, 09:03:47 09/23/16 Fri
    • Sweet pea needed to stop mooching off of MAO contestants that we're currently under title and contract. What makes them any different than all other pageants. (NT) -- No name, 18:02:32 09/23/16 Fri
      • It is condescending posters who cannot seem to post without being rude (NT) -- No name, 18:43:20 09/23/16 Fri
        • Stop trying to spin a boohoo big bad ol' MAO took our pageant girls from us scenario. (NT) -- You were wrong to hold a pageant for runners up when the contract obviously was against it. Just ask yourself why not EVERY state sent their 1st runner up., 19:00:29 09/23/16 Fri
          • Just ask yourself why ED's encouraged girls to come. While not all states were represented every year. Every state was represented multiple times throughout the years (NT) -- No name, 19:50:15 09/23/16 Fri
            • Answer me first (NT) -- No name, 19:58:02 09/23/16 Fri
• There is only one way to say that it was a contract breaker to allow the girls to participate in the Sweetheart pageant. Get sued or stop participation. There was a threat of a lawsuit. And they would have won. (NT) -- No name, 09:44:26 09/23/16 Fri
  • Who exactly do you think was going to get sued? MAO? Ha. Do you understand the law at all? To sue someone, you must have "standing." That means you must have been injured or harmed by MAO to sue them. Who was injured or harmed by girls participating in Sweetheart? No one. For decades. Anyone who claims "lawsuit" has no clue what they are talking about. Not only would anyone who sued have lost that lawsuit-- they would not have even survived a summary judgment motion because they have no standing. Take a minute and google summary judgment, and come back when you have some idea what you are talking about. (NT) -- No remote possibility for a lawsuit. None., 10:40:33 09/23/16 Fri
    • People can threaten lawsuit all they want but you can't sue without just cause (NT) -- No name, 16:52:21 09/23/16 Fri

• Was this award for any intrumentalist or those who did not place in the top 15? (NT) -- And was this prize awarded in previous years under a different name or was only started with the Louanne Gamma name?, 17:35:45 09/23/16 Fri

• no they keem their sash. the new one is new (NT) -- No name, 15:49:43 09/23/16 Fri

• Not allowed (NT) -- No name, 17:24:14 09/22/16 Thu
• It is done by several locals in my state. I think they just can't have any reference to MAO during pageant or advertising. Title holders also emcee these pageants. (NT) -- No name, 20:34:06 09/22/16 Thu
• they have the princess program that has no competition already (NT) -- No name, 14:33:10 09/23/16 Fri

• amazing. So real. (NT) -- No name, 13:56:12 09/23/16 Fri

• Congratulations (NT) -- No name, 03:53:41 09/23/16 Fri
• Still have not heard her vocal. (NT) -- No name, 05:29:41 09/23/16 Fri
• She was so great! Best vocalist at Miss America this year and entertaining! (NT) -- No name, 09:49:15 09/23/16 Fri
  • Disagree. It was average at best. The vocalists this year were very weak. Best overall vocalist was MS. (NT) -- No name, 10:48:10 09/23/16 Fri
    • I agree, her performance was weak. MS was also very good but I still loved NH. (NT) -- No name, 11:36:39 09/23/16 Fri
      • NH was goid, but her performance was inconsistent vocally. (NT) -- No name, 12:21:24 09/23/16 Fri

• It was the same when Katie Stam was crowned Miss America. (NT) -- No name, 02:08:33 09/23/16 Fri
• they were not robbed . WE do not know how many photos were taken and we certainly do not have access to all of them (NT) -- No name, 11:51:58 09/23/16 Fri

• Strong rationale and a great list. (NT) -- No name, 21:15:21 09/02/16 Fri
• Nice job! (NT) -- No name, 21:20:26 09/02/16 Fri
• May I ask if you were physically in attendance or watched video? (NT) -- No name, 21:20:35 09/02/16 Fri
• I think you are spot on. I just watched the presentations at arrivals and as much as I tried, I kept coming back to Arkansas. She is different enough but same time classic and had the best overall. Not sure of talent but you could see her winning ANY year, which says something. (NT) -- No name, 21:29:28 09/02/16 Fri
• I appreciate your explanation but see completely different woman filling those slots ...sorry! (NT) -- No name, 22:17:31 09/02/16 Fri
  • Totally agree. I just watched the Arrival on YouTube and see others filling the spot. (NT) -- No name, 22:40:19 09/02/16 Fri
• I watched Savvy's talent at Miss Arkansas, and liked it. I understand she has made additional changes, though same number at Miss America. (NT) -- No name, 23:00:31 09/02/16 Fri
• Today, I watched the arrival ceremony. I agree with you on Hawaii. She wasn't on my list, but is now. Indiana, who is on my list, didn't talk loud enough. Neither did Illlinois, who I am for to win. I could hear them, but I didn't know if the audience could. I agree with you on Alabama and Florida, also. Miss California, who was one of my favorites when she addressed the crowd, caught my eye all the time when she was sitting. She has a pretty smile, too. About Miss Arkansas, at times she nodded her head side to side real fast. I don't know if that was to the music or what. I watched her talent in the Miss Arkansas Pageant online. Some of the other contestants were better. I was not that impressed with hers. I would give her a 7, I guess. TY for posting your thoughts about the arrival. Betty was my favorite last year. On this board, I picked her to win. (NT) -- No name, 23:05:52 09/02/16 Fri
• josh announced that the Business Women Finalists would be interviewed by the judges at Wednesday's preliminary. That couldn't possibly be happening? (NT) -- No name, 06:42:50 09/03/16 Sat
  • Must be a special panel, not the prelim judges. (NT) -- No name, 11:54:06 09/03/16 Sat
    • Thanks (NT) -- No name, 21:07:01 09/03/16 Sat
• Totally agree about Savvy. Makes me wish she was my best friend! (NT) -- No name, 07:04:02 09/03/16 Sat
  • I do know Savvy....she is one of the most genuine, kind and thoughtful girls. Whether she wins a thing or not....she's a joy. (NT) -- No name, 09:30:02 09/03/16 Sat
• Great list (NT) -- No name, 09:15:53 09/03/16 Sat
• Agree with the list and any mentioned would make a Great Miss America. (NT) -- No name, 09:40:48 09/03/16 Sat
• The arrival list (above) so true-MA has to be comfortable in the public eye! Add PA, CO & CA . Dignified public personae (NT) -- No name, 11:32:15 09/03/16 Sat
• I agree with some of the above list. My T5 from arrivals are IN, IA, MI, NY & WA with MD and OH as very strong bubbles. I looked for warmth/personality, energy, confidence/poise and fluidity in speaking. (NT) -- No name, 12:40:19 09/03/16 Sat
• my favorites from the welcome ceremony are Idaho, Indiana, Kansas and Pennsylvania. (NT) -- No name, 12:48:27 09/03/16 Sat
• I really like Iowa! -- Fan, 12:53:56 09/03/16 Sat
  • I agree- if they are looking for a Kira personality - Iowa is the one! (NT) -- No name, 16:29:59 09/03/16 Sat
• Mine were KS, IN, AR, OH, AL (NT) -- No name, 12:55:34 09/03/16 Sat
• Mine are: Massachusetts, Alabama, Indiana. Kansas, Michigan (NT) -- No name, 14:27:13 09/03/16 Sat
  • Your list is really close to my top five. I have MI, IA, Mass, AL and KS for the win (NT) -- No name, 15:20:33 09/03/16 Sat
• I really can't see AR winning. I'm sure she's delightful, but no. (NT) -- No name, 14:46:03 09/03/16 Sat
• Thank you for sharing your thoughts again this year. (NT) -- No name, 14:54:54 09/03/16 Sat
  • Agree! I LOVE this post and always look forward to it. If we were still doing a top 5 ballot, I would predict this is all spot on. I do, though, think that talent is super relevant now a-days, so if any of these girls have an awesome talent too, they are at the top of my list! -- Thank you for doing this again!, 16:08:00 09/06/16 Tue
• Is the arrival ceremony posted online somewhere? (NT) -- No name, 15:29:54 09/03/16 Sat
• Is the arrival ceremony posted online somewhere? (NT) -- No name, 15:34:31 09/03/16 Sat
• Where is this video? (NT) -- No name, 16:21:13 09/03/16 Sat
  • Video on You Tube search "Miss America Contestants arrive in Atlantic City" posted on site by Triax Streaming (NT) -- Definitely a must watch for MAO fans!, 18:21:17 09/03/16 Sat
• I appreciated your very strong review, and also agree that from the arrivals that AR was on the radar. But there were 5 others that also impressed me that are not being mentioned as much, MS, NY, WA, TX, WV. I have them also in the running, but I also agree with your prediction. Could go anyway though. (NT) -- No name, 19:41:43 09/03/16 Sat
  • When are the private interviews? (NT) -- No name, 07:21:14 09/04/16 Sun
  • If you like Arkansas but were also impressed with Mississippi, New York and Washington, seems like you did pretty well in your assessment of the opening ceremony. (NT) -- No name, 12:02:25 09/16/16 Fri
• As a PR hiring manager, I liked AL, CA, IL, IN, NJ, PA, SC, VT, WA. Based on talent for top15, add AR, GA, MI, MS, OK, TX. (NT) -- No name, 07:58:52 09/04/16 Sun
  • Several of your picks are on my list, too: AL, CA, IL, IN, NJ, SC, GA, OK, TX. (NT) -- No name, 16:10:29 09/04/16 Sun
  • AL made a great beginning and set a high bar. FL was another. SC was just fine but not stellar. (NT) -- No name, 16:12:01 09/04/16 Sun
• are you kidding me you do not have sc picked. she will be in there. (NT) -- No name, 16:25:52 09/04/16 Sun
  • SC will be in there and AK will not. I can't believe how disappointed the crazy AK fans will be. (NT) -- No name, 18:44:28 09/04/16 Sun
    • What crazy Alaska fans? (NT) -- No name, 18:50:41 09/04/16 Sun
      • Agreed, what crazy Alaska fans? (NT) -- No name, 18:52:01 09/04/16 Sun
    • Do you mean Arkansas? AR? (NT) -- No name, 16:03:26 09/06/16 Tue
    • This is funny! Obviously you meant Arkansas but now you're double shamed! LOL (NT) -- No name, 18:25:27 09/19/16 Mon
• I totally agree with your observations. I would also add New Mexico. She made a strong first impression on me. (NT) -- No name, 19:23:06 09/04/16 Sun
• Where can I find the video? -- No name, 13:47:46 09/06/16 Tue
  • youtube (NT) -- No name, 14:16:40 09/06/16 Tue
• In terms of overall presence, MD, MN, MS, NJ, and PA were my top 5 standouts from the arrival ceremony. Others I liked were AR, CA, IA, NY, and OH. (NT) -- No name, 15:56:38 09/06/16 Tue
  • PA is beautiful! (NT) -- No name, 15:20:10 09/19/16 Mon
• Loved AL, HI, GA, TX, IL, WV and FL. AR comes across to me like she is trying too hrad, but I think this is her natural personality and judges will either eat it up or not like it. (NT) -- No name, 16:09:28 09/06/16 Tue
  • Meant to say hard....typo! (NT) -- No name, 16:22:19 09/06/16 Tue
• This isn't may be right on the money (NT) -- No name, 22:59:36 09/07/16 Wed
  • This list is right on the money (NT) -- No name, 23:00:56 09/07/16 Wed
• Here's where I meant to post: Top three look great!! (NT) -- No name, 21:04:53 09/08/16 Thu
  • Interesting to read this now. Predictions were right on and some of the responses about who was left off seem foolish now (NT) -- No name, 12:54:47 09/10/16 Sat
• I share your Top Three and I would add two of your others OH and AL to my Top 5 (NT) -- No name, 18:30:15 09/10/16 Sat
• Wanted to read this again. (NT) -- No name, 01:13:15 09/15/16 Thu
• I'm still bummed AL did not make top 15....yes her talent was weak., but it was better than CA's! (NT) -- No name, 23:53:11 09/15/16 Thu
  • No, it was not better than Miss California's talent, which was excellent. (NT) -- No name, 02:05:41 09/16/16 Fri
    • California making it was a total shock. ABC thought they just had to have the country covered for ratings with the big 3, California, Texas, NY, although they were not the worst of the 15, Georgia, Kansas, and Alabama were robbed for sure. (NT) -- No name, 12:19:12 09/16/16 Fri
      • No, it was not a total shock. I expected it as did many others. Miss CA's talent was exceptional. It may have been a shock to some of you living in a pageant patty world. (NT) -- No name, 12:54:24 09/16/16 Fri
  • AL was an anachronism. (NT) -- No name, 19:00:24 09/22/16 Thu
• get over it. she won. (NT) -- No name, 13:59:09 09/16/16 Fri
  • There is absolutely no question that Alabama and Kansas were robbed. It may mean nothing to the Miss America organization but thousands of thousdansds of viewers will NEVER tune nor back this organization in the future. You don't win or place in all 3 awards these two woman were eligible based on FINAL INTERVIEWS and not even make the top 15. taking their bodies, walks or dresses into consideration they earned at least the top 15, This organization does not stand at all for what thousands of us thought. (NT) -- VERY DISAPPOINTED, 16:01:07 09/19/16 Mon
    • Know what you're talking about before you base your rant on it. All the awards AL won were outside awards, judged by outside groups, based on interviews that were not part of the competition. And those interviews are not judged on their interview skills, but the criteria for the award (service, platform, whatever) (NT) -- No name, 16:18:39 09/19/16 Mon
    • Know what you're talking about before you base your rant on it. All the awards AL won were outside awards, judged by outside groups, based on interviews that were not part of the competition. And those interviews are not judged on their interview skills, but the criteria for the award (service, platform, whatever) (NT) -- No name, 17:01:20 09/19/16 Mon
      • Completely disagree. Ones platform and community involvement got the finalists to the interview round but each of those woman were then interviewed. I would kinda agree if for these awards a girl won just one but for these extra awards to be given to the same girls out of several hoping to win and being interivew for each one separately, there is simply no way that these woman didn't kill it in the interview round of the main competition. Come off it do the math. (NT) -- No name, 14:46:56 09/20/16 Tue
    • I'm in agreement 100%. Each of the awards required a private interview with the judges, so their interview skills were strong. Kansas and Alabama should have been in the top 15 AT LEAST! (NT) -- No name, 17:22:10 09/19/16 Mon
      • Interview for platform is much different than the competition interview. You'd hope any of them can speak about and answer all questions about their personal platforms (NT) -- And it's a different panel!, 17:57:28 09/19/16 Mon
        • Many of us thought MOA was/is looking for a modern day professional woman to represent this organization. One that is pursuing a higher education, represents a solid personal platform that the MOA can develop further to make America a safe and better place to live and is beautiful. I feel that NONE of these woman were recognized on Sunday night and frankly none of the fantastic talents even made the show. If this organization continues to manipulate the finals I guarantee viewership is going to continue to decrease and past believers in the organization will no longer be supporting this program. (NT) -- No name, 14:40:00 09/20/16 Tue
          • Yes, and MAO (not MOA) crowned a modern day professional woman. Savvy is studying to be a museum curator and an art professor. She will pursue her Masters with MAO scholarship money. Her personal platform, Eat Better Live Better, is applicable to every American. And she is very pretty! So yes, that is what MAO crowned. I'm sorry your girl didn't make it, but our Miss America is all of these things you said you wanted. (NT) -- No name, 14:25:22 09/21/16 Wed
            • No one said anything negative about the winner, Savvy should have been the winner and top 5 at at the least. It is just that Miss Kansas and Alabama not making the top 15 is totally a disgrace to the MAO. Anyone who wins those two states are more ready for interview than 90% of the other states. Interview, swimsuit, evening gown and os question were certainly no problem. Their talent was a good as 10 of the 15. There were some other excellent talents that America should have seen, like Georgia and KY (NT) -- No name, 16:19:50 09/21/16 Wed
              • so basically your saying that they should automatically be including in the top 15 every year because they have a decent prep team..god forbid they someone was actually better then they were! (NT) -- No name, 17:03:09 09/21/16 Wed
              • if they were so prepped for interview and did SO well in interview, then why didn't they win NF Interview over FL?? Just wondering. (NT) -- No name, 23:10:49 09/21/16 Wed
            • Noone said anything negative about Savy, so get off your soap box. The fact is KY talent should have made TV versus some that did. Have you talked to anyone that watched the pageant? The general public thought is was horrible, I mean a complete joke. Women like Alabama represented ever point of the crown so yes I do think she and a few others should have been included in the top 15. Earning the crown is not just about what you do those two weeks you are there it is about the devotion one has made since winning the local title. (NT) -- No name, 10:35:45 09/22/16 Thu
          • WTH is MOA??? (NT) -- No name, 23:12:09 09/21/16 Wed
          • "I feel that none of these were represented tonight" was a slapped to Savvy and everyone else who made the cut. (NT) -- No name, 10:40:23 09/22/16 Thu
          • The Miss America Organization requires that contestants have a platform to help promote/improve the Quality of Life. The top two out of 52 contestants were Alabama and Kansas who had to interview (yes, I know. Different panel of judges). It's almost like a doctoral candidate defending his/her dissertation--I would imagine extremely similar. The MAO has also realized that science, technology, engineering, and math (STEM) have long been male dominated, so now the MAO rewards the most outstanding of all contestants pursuing a profession in these areas. The same two young women, Kansas and Arkansas won both the QOL and STEM, with one being a registered nurse and pursuing a doctorate in family health practice. I agree with a previous poster that thousands see that but cannot understand why they were not included in the top 15. Alabama and Kansas should have been there and I am sure both are heartbroken because I'm sure, they too, thought they made the cut. (NT) -- No name, 11:45:07 09/22/16 Thu
            • Calm down. "Like a doctor student defending their dissertation." Really?? It's hardly the first time a Quality of Life finalist/winner has not made the cut. While it's sad that neither Kansas nor Alabama made the cut it's hardly time for pistols at dawn. (NT) -- No name, 11:54:35 09/22/16 Thu
            • To add mored fuel to why these two woman shined is that BOTH were awarded for raising a huge amount of funds for CMNH. I believe they were one and two. Nothing like added another slap to their faces. (NT) -- No name, 13:26:59 09/22/16 Thu
              • Last year's quality of life award winner also did not make the top 15. Why can't anyone understands it's a total different panel of people using a totally different judging criteria. Period. I think it proves that the actual judging of interview and onstage competition for miss America is done legitimately. (NT) -- No name, 16:40:33 09/22/16 Thu
                • I agree and I am from Alabama. Proud of Hayley but totally understand there are different criteria for the special awards and Miss America (NT) -- No name, 16:45:46 09/22/16 Thu

• Congratulations (NT) -- No name, 02:38:17 09/22/16 Thu
• What is the difference between overall non finalist interview and non-finalist interview? (NT) -- No name, 05:31:20 09/22/16 Thu
  • there is an overall non finalist interview award and the Curran non finalist interview award for journalism majors (NT) -- No name, 06:55:48 09/22/16 Thu
• Is this a new MA award? I haven't seen it in any of the awards listed in previous years. (NT) -- No name, 06:44:51 09/22/16 Thu
  • All Non Finalist winners in years past have been the Overall winner. The recent addition of the award for highest scoring in a particular major is the new part. I guess to avoid confusion, they added additional wording to the "normal" award. (NT) -- ., 10:51:16 09/22/16 Thu
• What was the scholarship dollar amount awarded? (NT) -- No name, 13:08:32 09/22/16 Thu

• bump (NT) -- No name, 18:02:53 09/20/16 Tue
  • Could they have introduced the formers any faster? It's such a shame MAO doesn't give them the respect they deserve (NT) -- No name, 18:45:15 09/20/16 Tue
    • The formers doubled down on them though and took their time. I'm with you. I did not recognize Dunlap, had to watch it twice, or Scanlan, looked like real hair to me! (NT) -- No name, 20:05:03 09/20/16 Tue
• I was amazed to discover this video and to learn they've been doing the honoring of Gold Star Mothers for several years. It's a very moving ceremony. Plus, as indicated, it shows what a variety of women we have as former Miss Americas. The one person I never recognize is Carolyn Sapp who looks different every time I see her. (NT) -- No name, 10:12:03 09/21/16 Wed
• Dorothy Benham also has 6 children! She looks fabulous and is the most down-to-earth person you will ever meet. MN loves her!! (NT) -- MN Pageant Fan, 10:46:47 09/21/16 Wed
  • Carolyn Sapp.....so much skin....oh my! Teresa Scanlon.....did they not finish making her dress? Erika Dunlap.....did she know where to sit this year? And such a huge fur for September. (NT) -- Pearl Clutcher, 13:50:37 09/21/16 Wed
• I also thought that Teresa S. dress was inappropriate as she was walking across the stage. Guess she was trying to show she was still young. And Erica's fur-looked like a mess. Liked her dress. (NT) -- No name, 07:08:39 09/22/16 Thu

• Congratulations! (NT) -- No name, 02:39:42 09/22/16 Thu
• she favors Anna Kendrick here. (NT) -- ., 03:05:47 09/22/16 Thu

• Congratulations (NT) -- No name, 02:44:03 09/22/16 Thu

• This is by Miss State year, not Miss America year (NT) -- Collage Queen, 14:56:09 09/21/16 Wed
• Thank you so much! (NT) -- No name, 14:58:51 09/21/16 Wed
• If I understand this correctly, Mississippi should be ten: '79-W, '80-2ndru, '81-topten, '82-2ndru, '83-3rdru, '84-2ndru, '85-W, '86-topten, '87-4thru, and '88-topten. Maybe I misunderstood so thanks for doing this anyway! Fun! (NT) -- No name, 17:26:16 09/21/16 Wed
  • I was thinking the same thing....Mississippi had ten in a row from 79-88..... (NT) -- No name, 20:21:01 09/21/16 Wed
• NC has had at least 3 1st RUs. (NT) -- No name, 19:22:16 09/21/16 Wed
  • NC has had 4 1st Runner-ups (NT) -- No name, 19:44:32 09/21/16 Wed
    • This isn't in total how many winners, runners up, and semifinalists the state had, this is what the contestant's placements were in the time of the placement streak (NT) -- No name, 20:25:19 09/21/16 Wed
• Virginia should be 3. 2009, 2010 and 2011. Miss america, top 10 and Top 15. (NT) -- Va Fan, 20:02:58 09/21/16 Wed
• Nebraska had a top 12 last year (NT) -- *, 21:13:44 09/21/16 Wed
• I love this. Would like to see the stats overall from the beginning. Should be interesting to see who has the overall "best" record. (NT) -- No name, 21:21:27 09/21/16 Wed
  • I will do that tomorrow! (NT) -- Collage Queen, 01:09:15 09/22/16 Thu
• Mississippi's listing is inaccurate. From 1979 to 1988 Mississippi had two Miss Americas, Three 2nd Runners up, One Third Runner up, one 4th Runner up and three top ten placements. (NT) -- No name, 22:32:12 09/21/16 Wed

• https://www.facebook.com/catherine.fiehn/media_set?set=a.10153732897571651.1073741982.626011650&type=3 (NT) -- No name, 07:37:29 09/11/16 Sun
  • These are awesome pics. Thanks. Love AR, GA, DE, and MD. Love MN tribute to Prince shes so cute. Why is DC laying down? and Love SC she is so pretty but what the heck is the outfit. BTW Betty looked flawless yesterday - best Ive seen her look ! (NT) -- No name, 07:48:38 09/11/16 Sun
• https://twitter.com/MissAmericaOrg (NT) -- No name, 08:54:40 09/11/16 Sun
• ttt (NT) -- No name, 01:09:38 09/15/16 Thu
• My photos from the Show Us Your Shoes parade -- AgeOwns (happy), 00:12:48 09/22/16 Thu
  • Thank you (NT) -- No name, 01:04:19 09/22/16 Thu

• Singers were fairly weak this year. My background is opera and the best singers in my opinion were OH, MS, OR, DC and SD. MD was a pleasant surprise. (NT) -- No name, 20:33:33 09/09/16 Fri
  • Nice try. Maryland was awful. Miss. Was good, but over the top. NH good, but a little over the top. Ohio just Okay. (NT) -- No name, 21:49:55 09/09/16 Fri
    • We'll have to agree to disagree. MD was not awful by a long shot. MS was one of the more consistent singers. NH's presentation was inconsistent. OH was very good - anyone who knows anything about singing would recognize how good she was. (NT) -- No name, 22:23:33 09/09/16 Fri
      • Maryland is so beautiful. If I judged I would probably not know if her singing was good or bad because I would be so stunned by her beauty. LOL! (NT) -- No name, 01:00:31 09/10/16 Sat
        • Then you should not judge. She was very bad. (NT) -- Talent wise a 5 at best., 17:40:59 09/16/16 Fri
          • I disagree too. I didn't hear anything remotely close to "very bad" she was an ok singer. There really weren't any stand outs this year. (NT) -- P.S. Last years winner was a little above average too. IMO Not as great as she is being made out to be., 06:30:10 09/18/16 Sun
          • Honestly... Maryland 10 in SS but 3-4 in talent. (NT) -- No name, 08:02:07 09/20/16 Tue
      • As a high school music teacher I loved NH. It was pitch perfect.I also loved MS she might have been a little pageanty but after all we are a pageant. (NT) -- No name, 02:43:50 09/10/16 Sat
        • NH and HI were my fave. (NT) -- No name, 13:57:37 09/10/16 Sat
      • Lol your background is in "opera" and you thought Maryland was good? You must come from the Florence foster Jenkins school of singing. (NT) -- No name, 09:41:22 09/15/16 Thu
      • Well, although I love Alice, her singing was only pretty good IMO (NT) -- Master in vocal performance, 18:01:05 09/15/16 Thu
        • Alice could have used a few more years. She seemed tired after the first few days. Her voice could have grown more too. (NT) -- No name, 21:38:01 09/15/16 Thu
        • I have a master's in opera. I loved OH. Maybe I was responding to how connected she was to the song and the potential that I hear in her voice. Even those of us who are educated in voice have differing opinions. I was there for prelims and with the exception of MS, the other singers were much better than in finals. (NT) -- No name, 17:29:13 09/16/16 Fri
• Singers -- No name, 21:42:23 09/09/16 Fri
• (NT) -- Groove (), 21:48:25 09/09/16 Fri
• TN, an above average singer and a notable arrangement (NT) -- No name, 21:52:31 09/09/16 Fri
• What about Illinois? (NT) -- No name, 00:34:37 09/10/16 Sat
• TN (NT) -- No name, 01:04:20 09/10/16 Sat
• MS was really good. And I don't think that song has been done since Melissa Bradley? (Who sang that difficult song very well). I can see where the judges may have been overwhelmed by the blonde, the hands, the dress. Some things distracted from how good LLL's voice was. (NT) -- No name, 05:03:35 09/10/16 Sat
  • Didn't a Miss Indiana who was runner-up to Heather Whitestone sing the same song a few years after Melissa? (NT) -- No name, 09:10:18 09/10/16 Sat
    • Just re-watched this pageant recently. You're thinking of Miss Indiana Tiffany Storm, eventual 4th RU, who performed "Papa Can You Hear Me?" (NT) -- No name, 09:30:31 09/10/16 Sat
  • It was done in 99 and 97...my partner and I love us some Babs...Very, very difficult song to sing but oh sooooooo fantastic. If you are 50ish, you remember Yentle. (NT) -- No name, 04:12:36 09/15/16 Thu
    • It's actually "Yentl" (no "e" at the end). (NT) -- No name, 17:04:25 09/15/16 Thu
  • The song is "A Piece of Sky". MS stretched it out, meaning left words out to make it a tad easier to sing. NOT an easy piece, but very powerful. (NT) -- No name, 04:19:21 09/15/16 Thu
    • She left out a lot of a 4minute song to whittle it down to 90 sec. (NT) -- No name, 12:18:39 09/15/16 Thu
  • I really wonder what Sharlene Wells was thinking hearing that song performed and judging it, knowing that it was the exact same song her first runner up sang the year she won. Crazy how things come back around. (NT) -- No name, 15:19:49 09/16/16 Fri
• I liked OR and SD personally. (NT) -- No name, 09:05:35 09/10/16 Sat
• My favorite singer was the 9yo who sang the anthem on the second prelim night. Absolutely incredible. Hope she competes some day!!! (NT) -- No name, 13:56:33 09/10/16 Sat
• Weakest group of singers since I have been involved. (30+ years) I thought talent would be stronger with no final ballot. Talent this year is average. Very few above average., (NT) -- No name, 14:23:31 09/10/16 Sat
  • I love NH. I thought she was the most emotional singer who connected to her song and sang it beautifully. (NT) -- No name, 09:52:54 09/15/16 Thu
• NY and MS (NT) -- No name, 09:59:43 09/15/16 Thu
• OR, MS, NY, CO, NH (NT) -- No name, 12:25:14 09/15/16 Thu
• NONE of the singers were good. MS was histrionic. .. too loud and over the top. MD off key. . .totally underwhelming. . .breathy and off key. . .NY just strange all the way around. . .cartoonish in presentation and sound. (NT) -- No name, 15:10:32 09/15/16 Thu
  • NY was just God awful (NT) -- No name, 18:07:35 09/16/16 Fri
• Hands down New Hampshire! Happy she was rewarded for it. (NT) -- No name, 15:21:18 09/15/16 Thu
  • I agree-hands down NH!! (NT) -- No name, 16:17:39 09/15/16 Thu
    • I saw the video, wish I could have seen it on tv. NH had bad placement. #1 on the 1st night of talent was not a good spot for her. (NT) -- No name, 17:00:17 09/15/16 Thu
    • Colorado was wonderful! (NT) -- No name, 16:16:37 09/16/16 Fri
• Agree NH was without a doubt the best singer. She connected emotionally with the song, delivered it with technical precision and passion. (NT) -- No name, 17:14:54 09/15/16 Thu
• Laurie Keller was a grrreat vocalist as was Jeri Ryan. Shani Nielson from twenty years ago went on to tour nationally with Jekyll and Hyde. Tiffany Stoker. Maya Walker. (NT) -- Reminiscing for the past glory days!, 14:04:12 09/16/16 Fri
  • Jeri Ryan and Tiffany Stoker were quite average vocalists I feel. (NT) -- No name, 17:49:51 09/16/16 Fri
  • Honey Castro, Julianne Smith, Tammy Walker, LaTonya Hall, Linnea Fayard, Pam McKelvey, Leanza Cornett, Kim Aiken, Elizabeth Simmons were all great vocalist, just to name a few from the 80's and 90's. God how I miss the talent of that era! (NT) -- No name, 00:08:26 09/17/16 Sat
    • One of my faves was Bobbie Eakes. (NT) -- No name, 08:22:46 09/17/16 Sat
      • I miss the longer talent so you could see who really isn't talented. Those singers got the opportunity to truly perform. A lot of the top 10 would have been out if they sang for 2.30 minutes. (NT) -- No name, 08:42:24 09/17/16 Sat
      • Kari Litton & Diane Evans & Shani Nelson (?) from Indiana I believe (NT) -- No name, 11:50:44 09/19/16 Mon
        • Kari and Shani's year...ah, fabulous singers that year...My second year at MA that year and was entertained. In fact the next few years were very strong singing talents. (NT) -- No name, 21:14:18 09/21/16 Wed
    • God, LaTanya Hall's voice CRACKED on finals night. (NT) -- No name, 11:46:10 09/19/16 Mon
      • LaTonya cracking on the lyric "I'm gonna start again" still leaves 99% of today's vocalists in the dust. (NT) -- No name, 17:25:02 09/19/16 Mon
• I like Mississippi. Maryland was good but the song selection didnt make for a great presentation. A Miss New Jersey a few years back performed a patriotic song as well. FOr me it seems like a kick off to a show rather than a talent presentation when I hear something patriotic. (NT) -- No name, 07:37:52 09/18/16 Sun
  • Mississippi was fantastic. Great vocal tone, presentation, and discipline. (NT) -- No name, 09:34:47 09/18/16 Sun
• I liked MS (NT) -- No name, 13:09:47 09/19/16 Mon

• "MAC makeup will change your life." (NT) -- The answer to that same question when I asked it 20 years ago., 19:35:19 09/18/16 Sun
  • Actually MAC leads to a lot of acne problems in many women. -- I definitely font drink the Mac cool aid, 21:09:59 09/18/16 Sun
    • I think MAC is great coverage for stage! I agree not for everyday use though. (NT) -- No name, 01:52:56 09/19/16 Mon
  • Yes, 20 years ago MAC was offering something that no other brand did. Now there are so many to choose from, no need to spend $30-40 for a great brush or $40 for eye shadow palettes. (NT) -- No name, 08:20:59 09/19/16 Mon
• Go to a professional hair & makeup artist and get lessons. They will show you the tricks of the trade. Also there are definite differences between drug store makeup and what professionals use. There is a difference in everyday makeup and stage makeup. Take a look at the social media of contestants USA/MAO to see who they use and go from there. It's not cheap but it's worth it! (NT) -- No name, 19:54:46 09/18/16 Sun
• MAC is excellent for stage and photoshoots. Not for everyday though. Smashbox, Too Faced, Benefit are some other great brands. (NT) -- No name, 02:11:51 09/19/16 Mon
• For a flawless look in photos and on stage, the way to go is airbrushed foundation. While MAC offers a large color selection, it has become more hype than delivery. The very best lipstick is Lipsense; all day wear, no bleeding, smudging and a ton of shades to choose from. One last suggestion, use an eyeshadow primer/base, worth every penny you send. (NT) -- No name, 08:16:03 09/19/16 Mon
  • *spend (NT) -- No name, 08:17:16 09/19/16 Mon
• Estee Lauder Double Wear makeup is the best ever. (Talking about the original, not the last 2 "updated" products) (NT) -- No name, 01:57:38 09/21/16 Wed
• For foundations, I like several formulas from Make Up Forever: the HD liquid and the HD stick. I also like their HD setting powder. The Perfect Face has a fantastic cream pot foundation formulated for stage and camera (the owner is an artist for MUO). Ben Nye has a great range of inexpensive setting powders, some shades also are also good for highlight and contour. (NT) -- ., 11:03:51 09/21/16 Wed

• (NT) -- No name, 02:27:49 09/21/16 Wed
• (NT) -- No name, 02:29:07 09/21/16 Wed

• I had similar thoughts until learning more on this board. My argument similarly, why do girls get cut from first round swimsuits when it's the least scored? To me it didn't meant sense to scoring. I have since learned a great deal from threads in here that give a lot of information related to composite scores carried over. In the end, the composites are what are carrying these girls, particularly the first round. (NT) -- No name, 19:34:58 09/19/16 Mon
• Choose top ten and let them do everything (NT) -- No name, 20:18:12 09/19/16 Mon
  • I love the top ten doing everything. I particularly loved the days of when all the finalists and winner were named from among the top 10. Talk about suspenseful! (NT) -- No name, 20:23:50 09/19/16 Mon
    • Loved those days! (NT) -- No name, 13:57:13 09/20/16 Tue
• Miss America is pretty much chosen based on composite scores. I feel the winner is chosen before finals even start. (NT) -- No name, 20:34:49 09/19/16 Mon
  • Composite scores.essentially determine the T5. The winner could be any one of those girls at the beginning of finals. Final night competition will determine the winner from the T5. Put another way, Suzy enters finals with a 10 composite score, is strong in SS and EG, but is only average in Talent. Katie, on the other hand enters finals with a 7 composite, is average in SS and EG, but strong in talent. Katie will be cut before Suzy because her composite is not strong enough to carry her through to the talent round. (NT) -- No name, 21:37:02 09/19/16 Mon
    • Did I understand right correctly before that composites are scored separately from the prelim scores? (NT) -- No name, 21:52:50 09/19/16 Mon
      • Yes! After numbers are crunched, there is a meeting where the judges find out the top 15 and give them each a composite score between 6 and 10. (NT) -- HNJ, 23:07:06 09/19/16 Mon
    • And isn't each phase on competition on finals night scored based on if judge thinks contestant is ready to be Miss America rather than actual performance? (NT) -- No name, 22:11:13 09/19/16 Mon
      • Exactly right. Each composite score (6-10) has a description attached to it that relates to whether or not the judge feels that the girl can perform the job. (NT) -- No name, 07:26:32 09/20/16 Tue
        • IMO this is really no different than a final ballot. It also explains how Mallory win SS on final night. (NT) -- No name, 07:40:08 09/20/16 Tue
          • Agreed, up to a point. Final ballot (of which I'm a fan), takes into account the totality of the girl's performance through prelims and finals (this works best with one panel) and can disregard total points (i.e. one girl may have had less total points, but still wins because of how final ballot is calculated). When you have two panels and are going by points only, composite will still largely determine the T5, but if the second panel doesn't follow the composite given to each girl and "scores as they see it," then the final outcome can give you winners like Betty - supremely talented, gorgeous, but not a strong speaker. Final ballot generally ensures that the most consistent girl wins. (NT) -- No name, 13:54:46 09/20/16 Tue

• Was it an anniversary Crown? (NT) -- No name, 00:46:08 09/20/16 Tue
• Heather French's year. (NT) -- No name, 00:48:54 09/20/16 Tue
• Miss America 2000, it was a gold crown with ruby stones to make the being of a new century. Heather brings it with her every year to Miss America and lets people either hold it for pictures or "crowns you" for pictures. She is truly an amazing former. LOVE HER! (NT) -- No name, 01:19:46 09/20/16 Tue

• Michigan, New Hampshire, North Carolina & Colorado, I think. (NT) -- No name, 21:46:02 09/16/16 Fri
  • Thank you! (NT) -- No name, 09:15:34 09/17/16 Sat
• I'm confused if every talent winner, but Arianna made it into top 15, then shouldn't she be the only non finalist talent? Technically she had the highest talent score because Savvy and whoever the other one was beat the girls in their night in their group (NT) -- No name, 13:33:34 09/17/16 Sat
• It is possible that a preliminary talent winner who does not make the quarter semi-finals or semi-finals does not win a Non-Finalist Talent award. (NT) -- If the pageant honors four or six NFT winners, the prelim. winner could have came in 5th or 7th in talent judging---because others in two other groups had higher prelim. talent scores., 14:00:23 09/17/16 Sat
• These were great choices! (NT) -- No name, 15:06:18 09/19/16 Mon
• What about the NON-TALENTED FINALIST list? (NT) -- Bwahahahahahaha, 18:18:50 09/19/16 Mon

• Sorry...."were" there any meetings. (NT) -- No name, 20:48:41 09/13/16 Tue
• The ED's meeting was held last Wednesday (NT) -- ED, 22:08:42 09/13/16 Tue
  • He told them it's mandatory to buy Princess crowns from a company that MAO gets a kickback for (NT) -- No name, 13:21:13 09/14/16 Wed
    • They've been saying that for years. (NT) -- No name, 15:00:50 09/14/16 Wed
    • That had to be directed at Arkansas. Their princess crowns are knock-offs of the state Miss Crown from Holly Hardwick. (NT) -- No name, 22:09:43 09/14/16 Wed
      • I like the Holly crowns. (NT) -- No name, 22:14:56 09/14/16 Wed
        • They're fine reproductions, but why would you use those for your princesses? It makes the eventual winner's crown much less special when you have 60 little girls wearing the same one all week. (NT) -- No name, 07:39:59 09/15/16 Thu
    • Is that all he said? (NT) -- No name, 23:53:55 09/14/16 Wed
    • Good, I HATE that Arkansas uses that knock off crown. It's tacky. (NT) -- No name, 20:59:45 09/16/16 Fri
• Did Sam deliver a "State of the Pageant" speech and then take questions? Or, did he just speak and then leave? (NT) -- No name, 15:18:10 09/14/16 Wed
• our state uses a different crown Im sure it's much more affordable but its still great leave the states ALONE!! (NT) -- No name, 22:21:45 09/14/16 Wed
  • Just get the right crown (NT) -- No name, 05:14:32 09/15/16 Thu
• No rocketship this year? Darn. (NT) -- No name, 06:08:13 09/15/16 Thu
  • I think the rocketship has overshot the moon and has landed on Mars! (NT) -- No name, 09:27:53 09/15/16 Thu
    • LOL!!! (NT) -- No name, 17:38:42 09/19/16 Mon
• This Pageant crowning blondes every other year and lack of minorities is not going to drive viewership. The world is changing and MAO is stuck in the 70s. The composite score needs to go as well. The average viewer don't understand how girls keep advancing over others. After Jasmine and Caitlin got cut bit Kira didn't confused alot of viewers. (NT) -- No name, 10:24:32 09/15/16 Thu
  • My party who didn't know any pageant girls agreed with the results (NT) -- No name, 10:28:47 09/15/16 Thu
  • If more minorities want to win they need to enter in the first place! When you only have a few minorities in the entire pageant thats probably because there were only a few who competed at each state. Odds are going to be in favor of those who are not minorties if they are the majority that enter to begin with! SOOOOO stop complaining about girls of minorities not winning and instead go out and find some who WANT to compete! Help encourgage more to enter to begin with and you will see the number rise! (NT) -- No name, 10:30:28 09/15/16 Thu
    • How can I encourage anybody to enter locals in Tennessee? Keep your head in the sand and this pageant will continuous fail. We can't talk about rave without someone getting defensive. (NT) -- No name, 10:46:19 09/15/16 Thu
  • So.......they should crown a brunette every other year?? So stupid. How about the judges try to find the best candidate for the job? REGARDLESS of hair color?? Sound good? (NT) -- No name, 11:05:21 09/15/16 Thu
    • Peopl stop identifying this with hair color!!! That has nothing to do with this. Many brunette a go blonde, some blondes & brunette a go red. I have seen Asian woman as blondes and African American woman as well so what does hair color have to do with this? (NT) -- All I keep hearing about it Blondes blondes blondes like it's an unfair advantage- but those blondes aren't necessarily blondes, 11:34:29 09/15/16 Thu
    • Missing the point. Go ahead and keep crowning the same girl over and over and hope that they resonate with the average viewer. No wonder MAO pays ABC to brodcast the pageant. Done with this conversation. (NT) -- No name, 12:02:36 09/15/16 Thu
      • They don't pay ABC. That ended long ago. (NT) -- No name, 22:13:53 09/17/16 Sat
      • No ones missing the point, you aren't making a very good point. If you don't like things then try and push through to fix it. No one is going to do it for you lazy. Get out there and recruit or talk to people to start the ball rolling. (NT) -- No name, 06:15:03 09/18/16 Sun
• Who on the MAO staff; their BoD & Advisory Board and among the state EDs is a minority (NT) -- No name, 10:37:05 09/15/16 Thu
  • Miss America 1991 Marjorie Judith Vincent (NT) -- No name, 12:01:13 09/15/16 Thu
    • One person. That answers the OPs question (NT) -- No name, 23:28:17 09/15/16 Thu
      • Are you saying that it takes a minority to understand the issue? All whites are unable to grasp the concept? Stupid white people! (NT) -- Come on get a grip., 06:16:51 09/18/16 Sun
    • Her talent was exceptional. Interesting that she won Miss Illinois at age 25 as a law student. Wonder if she can help increase the competition age by a year or two to increase participation at the local/state level (which would increase CMN funds). (NT) -- No name, 10:30:46 09/17/16 Sat
  • go to mao website, it has the info on staff and board (NT) -- No name, 11:31:49 09/16/16 Fri
• CHEER MAN (NT) -- No name, 17:03:54 09/16/16 Fri
  • How many state EDs are minorities? (NT) -- No name, 18:50:02 09/16/16 Fri
    • I don't know of any, unless you count "straight" men. (NT) -- No name, 22:34:02 09/17/16 Sat
      • What the hell does that have to do with anything? (NT) -- No name, 22:44:32 09/17/16 Sat
        • I'm guessing straight men are indeed minorities in the pageant world, unless you count dads, brothers and boyfriends. (NT) -- just a thought, 22:57:25 09/17/16 Sat
          • I'm guessing there's more dads, brothers and boyfriends. (NT) -- No name, 06:18:56 09/18/16 Sun
    • The new ED for CT is a black woman (former contestant in CT). (NT) -- No name, 17:58:40 09/18/16 Sun
• Very positive meeting this year. Impressed with Josh. The purge is over and onto the positives only! (NT) -- No name, 12:26:54 09/18/16 Sun
  • "The purge"?!??!? What are you? A Sam cronie?!? Jesus. The only people who should be purged are the BOD, Josh and that disgusting man, Marc angeli. (NT) -- No name, 15:51:45 09/18/16 Sun
  • The DOE in DC was impressed with him too. So impressed they purged him right out of there. (NT) -- No name, 18:02:02 09/18/16 Sun
  • This has to be one of the Haskell clan. (NT) -- barf, 18:30:14 09/18/16 Sun
  • I am glad they did the purge. It's always a good idea to have 20 something yr old young men in charge of pageant full of 20 something year old young ladies. That's always a winning combination. (NT) -- No name, 23:30:46 09/18/16 Sun
• Connecticut Ed is a black woman and Puerto Rico is a hispacnic woman. Is that it? (NT) -- No name, 13:18:40 09/18/16 Sun
• Jamillah Hamilton, the MAO's Director of Scholarships, is African-American. Sonya Gavankar McKay, Miss DC 1997, is bi-racial and also President of the Miss DC Organization. (NT) -- No name, 14:34:04 09/18/16 Sun
  • 3 of 52 state organizations have minority leaders (NT) -- No name, 22:10:06 09/18/16 Sun
  • Why wasn't she introduced with senior mgt.? (NT) -- No name, 23:32:57 09/18/16 Sun

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• This solidifies MD in my mind. (NT) -- No name, 15:05:48 09/11/16 Sun
• I heart you. Absolutely perfect explanation of the debacle that is currently the Miss America Finals night competition. (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 15:18:30 09/11/16 Sun
  • This doesn't make it a debacle, it's just a way of addressing why those that think it's a talent show to understand it isn't (NT) -- No name, 15:46:52 09/14/16 Wed
• Thanks, Mary (NT) -- No name, 15:51:04 09/11/16 Sun
• Love this post. Hits the nail on the head. Bearing this in mind, let's all prepare for another night full of surprises and headscratchers! (NT) -- No name, 16:03:10 09/11/16 Sun
• Miss Arkansas will do well tonight! There's something about her that just is illuminating! (NT) -- No name, 16:08:35 09/11/16 Sun
• Ohio is my favorite and this explains how she could possibly win. (NT) -- No name, 16:14:44 09/11/16 Sun
• I disagree with this at the point OP gets to talent. Whenever 2 panels have been used in recent years, the strongest talents have advanced to Top 5 and those with weak to average talents finished in the lower half of the Top 10. (NT) -- No name, 16:17:54 09/11/16 Sun
• Hey Mary! Could you please save this to post next year? I think it's a great explanation of a system people often don't understand. I'll also save a copy. :) (NT) -- HNJ, 16:25:51 09/11/16 Sun
  • Thanks for the kind words. I have a blog Mary-Campbell.com. It's posted there as well. (NT) -- MaryCampbell, 11:29:20 09/13/16 Tue
• For me one of the most memorable/embarrassing scoring mysteries I've had to explain to my non-pageant friends was when combat medic Jill Stevens (Miss Utah 2007) was cut after "lifestyle & fitness" when she clearly was the most physically fit woman on the stage. (NT) -- No name, 16:31:08 09/11/16 Sun
• This is a perfect explanation as to why Miss IA (double prelim winner) from last year did not advance to T10. (NT) -- No name, 16:39:48 09/11/16 Sun
• It should also be remembered that each prelim judge assigns their own composite score for each girl - meaning that each girl in the T15 can have a wide range of composites. The higher the scores, the higher her average composite will be which dictates how far she goes in the competition. (Example: 7 composites all within the 8-10 range will ensure that a girl goes far. Alternatively, if a girl gets mostly 6-8 composites and one 10, she won't advance as far). (NT) -- No name, 16:45:42 09/11/16 Sun
  • At the end of the day the scoring system is what it is. If you don't like it then don't play. (NT) -- Play the game or move along., 16:49:10 09/11/16 Sun
• Let's talk about Harvard Hannah for a moment. The process grossly favored her as well. For example, Harvard Hannah, the Florence Foster Jenkins of the violin, advanced to the talent portion over Sensational Savannah Lane because Savannah was weaker in swimsuit, and the swimsuit competition came first. Her voice was amazing. Savannah was the 2nd best talent in the entire pageant last year. Also, clearly interview had factored in so high that Harvard Hannah's embarrassing performance still allowed her to get 1st RU....There is no way Vanessa Williams was fooled on that one...Too bad this is how the chips fall. (NT) -- No name, 16:46:33 09/11/16 Sun
• Brilliant writing. Thank you!! (NT) -- No name, 17:02:24 09/11/16 Sun
• I would really all of us to start using "Middle of the Road Molly" " Bad Technique Dancer Dolly" "Off Pitch Polly" and "RIverdance Robin" I am sitting here LMAO at this. (NT) -- No name, 17:58:26 09/11/16 Sun
  • dont forget "dropping dana" the twirler (NT) -- No name, 12:40:30 09/13/16 Tue
• This is a delightful explanation. Thank you! (NT) -- Ima (Jean) Starall-Reddy, 18:05:25 09/11/16 Sun
• Bumping so that people can re-read this to understand how certain girls made T15 and advanced. It's INTERVIEW, people!!! A high composite (i.e. a 9 or 10) will advance a girl despite weak SS/Gown and Talent. TX had a weak SS/EG (in my opinion). CA's talent was one of the weaker ones (in my opinion). Same with NY. They all clearly had very high composites and then did well enough on finals to continue to advance. (NT) -- No name, 09:14:46 09/13/16 Tue
• So if you're #15 in terms of Composite Score you will make the semi-finals but a weak swimsuit will take you out. That certainly explains how Numbers 13-15 become the first three eliminated. Loved this explanation. (NT) -- No name, 12:01:54 09/13/16 Tue
  • But we don't know that ID, MA, and LA had the 3 lowest composites or the 3 lowest SS scores. Someone with a lower composite MIGHT have edged them out with a really high SS score. And vice versa. (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 12:07:14 09/13/16 Tue
• If miss America really wants the game show feel to boost ratings, why don't they show the composite score and make is suspenseful by announcing things like (she would have to score 10 points in this category to advance to the next round.) that would make the show more game show like AND make the general public less confused about the results (NT) -- No name, 12:08:36 09/13/16 Tue
  • That's exactly right. Sort of like Miss World, but with more transparency. That would make it very exciting, and people would understand how it works. (NT) -- Lifelong Fan, 12:33:46 09/13/16 Tue
  • I agree they need to show the scores. Just like gymnastics, ice skating or even dancing with the stars (NT) -- No name, 14:15:21 09/14/16 Wed
• When they did show the scores Mallory's year people cried foul because they did not think she should have won SS. No way to make everyone happy. (NT) -- No name, 15:14:39 09/14/16 Wed
  • Exactly. (NT) -- No name, 13:26:39 09/19/16 Mon

• (NT) -- Top 7, 00:39:06 09/12/16 Mon
  • L-R: AR, MD, MS, NY, SC, TX, WA (NT) -- No name, 00:41:04 09/12/16 Mon
  • what a lovely top 7 SC is just so gorgeous (NT) -- No name, 15:56:40 09/13/16 Tue
    • 23 white gowns in the class of 52 and how many are in the top 7? One, 1. Please ladies, pick a color that looks good on you. Not everyone can wear white. (NT) -- No name, 12:30:03 09/16/16 Fri
      • Just a theory... Many states do not have as generous sponsors as others, it is my understanding that Sherri Hill sponsored white gowns for the final night. Maybe they used their Sherri Hill white gown because that was their only sponsored gown. (NT) -- No name, 13:15:24 09/16/16 Fri
• 1st R/U: Miss SC (NT) -- No name, 00:45:52 09/12/16 Mon
• 2nd R/U: Miss NY (NT) -- No name, 00:46:58 09/12/16 Mon
• 3rd R/U, Miss WA (NT) -- No name, 00:48:16 09/12/16 Mon
• 4th R/U, Miss MS (NT) -- No name, 00:54:36 09/12/16 Mon
• Contestants from all over the country made the cut. Congratulations to all of you. (NT) -- No name, 00:58:13 09/12/16 Mon
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  • great pictures thank you - (except for the 15 which makes me sad for the program - so many great girls missing in the odd crowd) (NT) -- No name, 05:00:51 09/12/16 Mon
    • Who are these escorts? (NT) -- No name, 06:28:28 09/12/16 Mon
      • my guess is they are somehow connect to Ole Miss or Josh's friends. (NT) -- No name, 10:01:12 09/12/16 Mon
        • Instead of another pair of young 20 something males– which seems to be the norm filling roles these days- since it was 911 it would have been a nice touch to have had a couple of first responders give the flowers and escort the Top 5. I am sure there are some young male responders out there that fit the bill. (NT) -- No name, 13:12:01 09/12/16 Mon
        • Probably some of Sam's little buddies like that intern nerd that was hanging around all week. (NT) -- No name, 07:52:27 09/15/16 Thu
      • MAO posted about the men handing out the flowers. Maybe on Twitter. Brodie something was one of them. (NT) -- No name, 10:13:30 09/12/16 Mon
    • im sorry its not any of the top 15 fault that they did better than your favorites....maybe they should have worked harder on their interview skills (NT) -- No name, 08:24:11 09/12/16 Mon
    • Well your few favorites who you say we're left out, did not get the job done in interview and did not engage with the judges (NT) -- Don't be mad at the girls who earned their spot!, 23:45:40 09/14/16 Wed
    • It makes you sad because your girl didn't make it. It's not just about what they look like. If that's the case then I suggest you have your girls do Miss USA. (NT) -- No name, 23:34:09 09/15/16 Thu
• Interesting fact; 7 of the top 15, 6 of the top 12, 5 of the top 10, and 4 of the top 5 were former state MAOTeen titleholders. 17 total. Congratulations to ALL 52 of these amazing young women! (NT) -- No name, 08:12:21 09/12/16 Mon
  • Seventeen would not be the total. Seven would be. You are talking about the same top 15 girls. (NT) -- No name, 18:28:29 09/15/16 Thu
    • I think she means 17/52 girls were MAOTeens. (NT) -- No name, 22:37:56 09/15/16 Thu
• I love these pictures. Did several of my favorites not advance, absolutely. But at the end of the day these 15 women earned their places and we need to accept that. The constant whining by a few is very tiresome. I suggest another hobby for those who can't accept the results. (NT) -- Somebody win and somebody loses but the world goes around!!!!, 11:06:17 09/12/16 Mon
• Love the photos (NT) -- No name, 12:19:03 09/14/16 Wed
  • So do I. Thanks to the OP. (NT) -- No name, 23:50:31 09/14/16 Wed
  • GREAT PHOTOS! (NT) -- No name, 13:23:22 09/19/16 Mon
• who's the young hottie escorting the runners-up? (NT) -- No name, 15:53:42 09/14/16 Wed
  • The smaller one is Sean O'Donnell, who gained his "stardom" by first starting out as a social media hottie (NT) -- No name, 22:23:10 09/15/16 Thu

• Hello...I agree (NT) -- Bb, 19:34:18 09/12/16 Mon
• Apologies for you not being selected to judge MA. Sometimes, instead of criticizing, we have to accept that the ones chosen to judge have expressed their opinon. I didn't agree with most of them either, but good for them for competing in a tough system and being successful. They played the game and won fair and square. Congrats! (NT) -- No name, 19:38:08 09/12/16 Mon
• Just to be clear, who would have been your top ten? I always like to get a little meat from these complaints. (NT) -- No name, 19:59:54 09/12/16 Mon
• We actually loved the pageant. Fast paced and entertaining. (NT) -- No name, 20:01:41 09/12/16 Mon
  • Having the cut before talent left out more talented girls - which led to people watching the show talking about poor talent at Miss A. (NT) -- No name, 20:54:24 09/12/16 Mon
• it is definitely worst pageant I've watched since Scanlan's year. I don't really know why either. Maybe it's become stale. No one blew me away. The candidates this year lacked something but I don't know what -- No name, 21:00:55 09/12/16 Mon
  • I think that Betty and the energy she brought to the table was corrosive to the program. We seem to have a great choice in the final analysis. Fingers crossed. (NT) -- No name, 21:08:08 09/12/16 Mon
• I loved it. I wish they would spend more time interviewing the contestants - after all, Miss America will be a public speaker first and foremost during her reign. I was pleasantly surprised by the top 15 - it would be soooo dull if we all knew who was going to be chosen each year, wouldn't it? (NT) -- No name, 22:00:28 09/12/16 Mon
  • She's not even a public speaker anymore if she has to have PR reps go with her and then interrupt and tell her she can't say this or that. How many people are going to invite her for interviews after that news has gotten out. (NT) -- No name, 23:04:54 09/14/16 Wed
• I thought this was a very good year. The makeup and lighting was better and even my husband thought most girls were very attractive. No "clinkers" in swimsuit or evening wear. Talent was a mixed bag but did not have anyone who obviously won or "lost". They did that awful countdown to talent that left two sitting, but I've come to expect it - and leaving Miss KY sitting when most of the country wanted to see her talent - well, that was pure TV, just like when we didn't get to see Diana Reed twirl. (NT) -- No name, 22:03:46 09/12/16 Mon
  • I thought the lighting was terrible. (NT) -- No name, 23:06:03 09/14/16 Wed
• but see, here's the problem I have with the statement you just made. When you say "I will always support it and I will always give money to it" you are just enabling the bad behavior to continue. I decided four years ago that the program was moving in a direction that no longer aligned with the values and brought me into the program as a volunteer 20+ years earlier. I was giving one of the largest cash scholarships each year to my state pageant, served on the state board in numerous capacities and was a judge to many state pageants. But more and more I became frustrated, and when MAO started blacklisting some of my longtime friends, I decided I had enough and wasn't going to kiss King Sam's ring any longer. I also never gave one penny to the CMN pyramid scheme either (NT) -- No name, 22:11:56 09/12/16 Mon
  • Great post. My thoughts exactly the same. Agree 100% (NT) -- No name, 05:00:28 09/13/16 Tue
• Why? Because the expected States didn't make it? Not all brains and beauty comes from just those States. (NT) -- No name, 22:16:37 09/12/16 Mon
• I have no idea what that pageant was about. Worst and I mean way worse than any I have ever watched. (NT) -- No name, 22:27:35 09/12/16 Mon
  • Agree. (NT) -- No name, 22:33:19 09/12/16 Mon
• It.was.horrible. How you can start with "8,000 girls" and end up with this.hot.mess is a documdrama in itself. (NT) -- No name, 23:39:48 09/12/16 Mon
  • Shows you how the pageant has taken a dive - 25 yrs ago you had 50K competing and in the 70s-80s it was 80K girls competing. The numbers don't lie. (NT) -- No name, 12:27:32 09/13/16 Tue
    • I think 80k was a myth to begin with. Now I would say 4K is closer to the actual number (NT) -- No name, 15:22:59 09/18/16 Sun
• Talent -- No name, 05:09:14 09/13/16 Tue
• Not to mention Atlantic City is horrible. The hotels are dumps, the creeps on the boardwalk are scary, the trade show is was ridiculous, there's very little to do in that town and the gap between Thursday and Sunday leaves way too much free time. I won't be going back. (NT) -- No name, 08:28:03 09/13/16 Tue
  • I am NOT going again NOR watching it on TV next year. I'll stick to football. (NT) -- No name, 10:51:06 09/13/16 Tue
• I agree. This is the first year that I actually preferred the USA broadcast over MAO. That never happens. (NT) -- No name, 17:12:26 09/14/16 Wed
• Former Miss State here and each year I get more disillusioned. Atlantic City is a cesspool and last time I went I felt scared for my safety. As for the organization, what with CMN, it just seems like a scam now. (NT) -- Gone are the good old days., 18:30:20 09/14/16 Wed
  • Agree with you (NT) -- No name, 23:08:48 09/14/16 Wed
• Next year there will be the family and friends of 52 more women. Some will come to this board and hype and when its over some will come and proclaim the worst ever!!! It happens the same way every year. (NT) -- There was a lot I didn't like, but I will be back next year following every state pageant and on through Miss America. That's what some of us do., 18:40:02 09/14/16 Wed
  • Not me. I almost turned it off in the middle of program and I know some pageant friends who did. This year was bad. I didn't realize how much you need a star contestant like a Betty, Nina and Caressa or a major shakeup like Vanessa returning last year or unpredictability in format like Mallory's year. Even when the worst thing that ever happened-Solo Cups-won at least it was entertaining. But this year was just all around average and boring with nothing new to contribute in formatting, mediocre judges and a forgettable winner. I had to force myself to pay attention to the show and I missed some of talent and OSQ because it was a struggle. I will NOT be watching next year. No way. (NT) -- No name, 08:22:50 09/16/16 Fri
    • Good, we don't need fair weather fans! Bye Felecia! (NT) -- No name, 08:40:14 09/16/16 Fri
      • Honey, you need all the fans you can get lest you end up broadcasting on YouTube. (NT) -- No name, 12:31:33 09/18/16 Sun
    • Betty, Nina and Caressa were STAR contestants only in YOUR imagination. I mean seriously? (NT) -- too funny, 08:46:53 09/16/16 Fri
      • They were "star" because they stood out and were runaway winners. (NT) -- No name, 12:30:56 09/18/16 Sun
• We have rented a beach house for the last 5 years. We feel safer and it's much cleaner. We head to the boardwalk for the show, park in a casino lot close by, and go back to the house, have a glass of wine and chill out. When we split the rent, it's a lot cheaper than staying in a hotel on the boardwalk. (NT) -- No name, 22:23:41 09/14/16 Wed
  • Thats a great idea (NT) -- No name, 13:16:48 09/19/16 Mon
• 2016 Pageant -- No name, 23:21:01 09/14/16 Wed
• I wonder about recruiting. Who wants to be miss America these days? How do they find out about the program? 8,000 seems low to me. Do little girls sit and watch and want to grow up to be miss America.? Like years in the past. (NT) -- No name, 08:54:28 09/16/16 Fri
  • 8,000 seems high to me. Our state population is 11,6000,000 and we had 50 local contestants last year. Yes, you read that right, FIFTY unique contestants. Add in the open states and DC which have ~140 contestants and that leaves 40 states to magically have 7,810 contestants. That's 195 per state. How many locals have you been to where they had less than 10 contestants?? (Every one in our state!) Or the minimum 4?? And how many of those contestants were repeaters? (NT) -- 8,000 contestants = MORE BS NUMBERS FROM the MAO!, 10:03:52 09/16/16 Fri
    • If each state counts the number of contestants in each local (obviously those with locals) including the ones who competed in more than one then it's easier to see how you get a larger number especially given states like Oklahoma, Alabama, Arkansas, Texas. Obviously numbers in states without locals will be smaller but out of 52 there really aren't that many without locals. It's still not a great number, padded or not. (NT) -- No name, 10:11:45 09/16/16 Fri
      • Also, several states have university pageants, which attract new contestants that don't necessarily compete in other locals. You get a lot of unique competitors from those that help bump numbers. (NT) -- No name, 18:47:37 09/16/16 Fri
      • It would be misleading to say 8,000 young women competed, if they mean young women tried 8,000 times. So only 'unique' contestants count toward this magical 8,000, and repeaters 2nd, 3rd, 4th, +++ times don't. (Every year we see a girl who does 8-9 pageants.) So 140 contestants for every state with locals?? If one of the more populated states in the nation has only 50, that's a lot on the Southern States to make up for. (NT) -- QUESTION TO ALL: How many unique contestants would you guesstimate your state having?, 19:24:32 09/16/16 Fri
        • I did this math once and in my estimation Miss America is chosen from a pool of about 2500 contestants from all over the country. (NT) -- No name, 14:41:10 09/18/16 Sun
          • That can't be because there are 150-200 unique contestants every year in my medium-sized state alone. (NT) -- No name, 14:54:04 09/18/16 Sun
            • It's probably closer to the real number John Oliver should've taught us how inflated maos numbers are (NT) -- No name, 15:28:33 09/18/16 Sun
              • But in some smaller and open states there may be only 10 contestants. So it equals out. Every state does not have 200 plus. (NT) -- No name, 17:30:53 09/18/16 Sun

• Glad she at least nabbed a NFT award. Very impressive! (NT) -- No name, 08:23:01 09/18/16 Sun
  • It was a shame we did see this 18 yr old perform on finals night. Being 1 on night 1 in talent wasn't the best placement. I think she was one of the last to choose. (NT) -- No name, 08:35:58 09/18/16 Sun
    • I truly think this is a classic case of winning a state title too young. She is beautiful and has an amazing talent. Another couple years may have given her time to improve in other areas where she may have been a little less competitive. (NT) -- No name, 12:10:15 09/18/16 Sun
      • If she had not won Miss NH this year, my understanding is Caroline did not plan to compete any further. Over the past 5 years she has won close to $30K in scholarship monies which will certainly help her as she begins college next fall after deferring for a year. (NT) -- No name, 13:46:21 09/18/16 Sun
        • Last night at a local Caroline also said she is going to take the Sherman Chiropractic Scholarship that was offered to Miss America state titleholders. Dr. Stephanie Mills also a former Miss NH was instrumental in securing this amazing scholarship. Winning NFT at Miss America at 18 is an amazing feat. Good Luck! (NT) -- No name, 14:57:35 09/18/16 Sun
• Lovely girl! (NT) -- No name, 13:15:09 09/19/16 Mon

• Ariel (NT) -- No name, 19:46:01 09/17/16 Sat
• That hideous dress was a Jovani (NT) -- No name, 21:57:06 09/17/16 Sat
  • It was a beautiful gown. (NT) -- No name, 01:01:24 09/18/16 Sun
    • That gown is what got her left out of performing her talent on national tv. (NT) -- Very sad not to see it, 03:53:27 09/18/16 Sun
      • BS- that gown was one of maybe two or three worth looking at this year. I loved the gown and I don't care who the designer is. It fit her to a T as well. (NT) -- No name, 06:05:57 09/18/16 Sun
        • PS- I don't care who sold it to her either. (NT) -- Hate when the board is hijacked for profit, 06:07:43 09/18/16 Sun
        • It seems to be a love or hate gown and unfortunately she didn't make it past the eg round. So.... (NT) -- Obviously it did her no favors in a tight competition., 08:18:33 09/18/16 Sun
          • That had nothing to do with gown and everything to do with composite scores. Why do you keep pushing that it's about the gown? Nothing points to that. She had a banging body and the gown moved beautifully was different enough to stand out but classically cut and it showed off the woman so I don't know how it could have gotten much better. (NT) -- And no I don't know her from Adam I just give props to those that actually choose to show personality and individuality because that's what this is about., 08:23:44 09/18/16 Sun
            • Why do you keep pushing that it's NOT about the gown? It's a love hate gown and that won't help you win in a tough competition. (NT) -- She needed a WOW gown, not a 'let's take a chance' gown., 18:24:17 09/18/16 Sun
              • IMO it was the only WOW gown of the competition (NT) -- No name, 19:50:10 09/18/16 Sun
      • agree - it made me sad because clearly the gown choice kept her out . it was not composite the girls moved forward after each phase based on their score from that phase - so YES it was the Christmas Tree dress (NT) -- No name, 08:26:49 09/18/16 Sun
        • LOL, what is it you have to gain from this? It WAS beautiful on her, open your eyes. (NT) -- No name, 08:30:25 09/18/16 Sun
        • This explanation is mathematically incorrect. It is the combination of composite, plus swimsuit, plus gown. (NT) -- Chris, 09:21:07 09/18/16 Sun
        • But, on finals each phase is scored based on "is the girl ready for the job" - same as composite score, so score is not really based on SS body or eg. I loved OK's gown. It was definitely one of my top five favorites. (NT) -- So many gowns were same as always, 10:12:25 09/18/16 Sun
        • Sea Weed Dress (NT) -- No name, 14:18:10 09/18/16 Sun
          • Do you feel better now. (NT) -- No name, 19:52:00 09/18/16 Sun
            • Though I wasn't a huge fan of the gown, I loved the person in the gown, and THAT is what matters. Her presence was incredible. Was stunned she didn't make it at least to the next level (talent). 3 singers? Meh. 7 dancers? BOOOORRRRING. (NT) -- No name, 23:24:47 09/18/16 Sun
• LOVED that modern, elegant, chic Evening Gown from Regalia. (NT) -- No name, 04:21:52 09/18/16 Sun
  • any gowns from Regalia are not the new designs way over rated store. (NT) -- No name, 11:51:10 09/18/16 Sun
  • Regalia is the best! (NT) -- No name, 13:08:31 09/19/16 Mon
• When Miss OK came out in that seaweed green gown I knew it was over for her. I was so looking forward to her gown and cant believe she was sent with that. (NT) -- No name, 06:42:34 09/18/16 Sun
  • I loved the color and the look. It was beautiful and she wore it with style. (NT) -- No name, 08:31:39 09/18/16 Sun
    • I agree. Sounds like someone wanted her to wear a different gown but she chose something else and they are trying to say " I told you so" . Thing is, it's about what the girl wants to wear on that stage not anyone else. She wore what she wanted to wear. (NT) -- No name, 08:52:29 09/18/16 Sun
• w (NT) -- No name, 07:50:45 09/18/16 Sun
• Miss OK''s gown was unique. Love it or hate it she made it as a finalist and people remember her gown unlike most of the others. (NT) -- No name, 14:33:42 09/18/16 Sun
  • Great point! (NT) -- No name, 19:53:22 09/18/16 Sun
• It is a Jovani design. Fyi rhe celebrity judges look for the gown with edge and that they would wear on the red carpet. It is their bias. Just saying (NT) -- No name, 21:58:55 09/18/16 Sun
  • Umm clearly they didn't love it or she would have been able to move into top 10 considering how close scores are for everything. (NT) -- No name, 04:03:22 09/19/16 Mon
    • Not clear at all (NT) -- No name, 05:18:31 09/19/16 Mon
• I LOVED Washington's dress. Anyone know the designer? (NT) -- Striking!, 23:07:40 09/18/16 Sun

• Oh my. Who is in white on top row, seventh girl? (NT) -- No name, 17:14:30 09/10/16 Sat
  • Connecticut (NT) -- No name, 17:15:33 09/10/16 Sat
    • She is so beautiful and looks like a Miss America even though she is not my pick.She is so elegant, and I wouldn't be upset if she wins. (NT) -- No name, 18:12:05 09/10/16 Sat
    • I believe I read that this is her state gown. She was supposed to receive a Miss A gown but a sponsor dropped the ball. Looks like it worked out in her favor. (NT) -- No name, 05:44:58 09/11/16 Sun
      • Love Miss Florida's gown - grace and beauty - stunning! (NT) -- No name, 05:33:11 09/16/16 Fri
    • That gown on CT is perfect for her....Apsolutely gorgeous (NT) -- No name, 08:26:08 09/11/16 Sun
  • Who is in the yellow second row? Gorgeous!! (NT) -- No name, 19:02:10 09/10/16 Sat
    • Hawaii (NT) -- No name, 19:03:11 09/10/16 Sat
      • Thank you! That gown is perfect for her!!! Well done Hawaii!!! (NT) -- No name, 19:53:42 09/10/16 Sat
    • Love the yellow gown (NT) -- No name, 19:08:44 09/10/16 Sat
      • I love that gown, those dark haired, dark eyed ladies look beautiful in those jewel colors. (NT) -- No name, 19:57:40 09/10/16 Sat
  • Standouts for me- AR, CT, KS, GA, Hawaii (NT) -- No name, 05:12:46 09/11/16 Sun
    • BEST in gown CONNECTICUT---my least favorite is IDAHO in the black--what a mess of a dress. (NT) -- No name, 11:00:48 09/11/16 Sun
  • Love the grace and poise from Miss Alabama, top far left. (NT) -- No name, 08:28:00 09/19/16 Mon
    • Was not a fan of her dress tho. Beautiful, but she needed color. (NT) -- No name, 13:00:16 09/19/16 Mon
• (NT) -- No name, 17:35:03 09/10/16 Sat
  • Standouts for me- Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, MS (NT) -- No name, 05:15:11 09/11/16 Sun
    • Looks like Michigan needed a better seamstress to attach the tulle skirt. It's rather bulky on the sides where it attaches to the bodice. I think a more experienced seamstress could have done a better job. The proper person taking in the evening wear and making design adjustments can not be underestimated. The jumpsuit itself is very beautiful on her. Hoping the bulky sides of the skirt where it attaches doesn't hurt her scoring. (NT) -- No name, 12:14:44 09/11/16 Sun
      • Clearly the jumpsuit wasn't a smart gamble as she was watching top 15 from loser's lounge (NT) -- No name, 04:54:47 09/17/16 Sat
        • Now that was rude and disrespectful. They're all winners to have made it that far. We didn't see you on that stage. (NT) -- No name, 22:20:29 09/17/16 Sat
  • LOVE the first group second to last bottom row. Who is that? Stunning gown and girl. (NT) -- No name, 19:08:45 09/11/16 Sun
• thank you so much please post more (NT) -- No name, 17:35:18 09/10/16 Sat
  • who is in the last row and why isnt this alphabetical (NT) -- No name, 17:38:58 09/10/16 Sat
    • It is alphabetical (NT) -- No name, 17:39:31 09/10/16 Sat
    • The only one that isn't is I switched around DC and Delaware (NT) -- No name, 17:39:53 09/10/16 Sat
  • Love MN in EG (NT) -- No name, 06:16:01 09/11/16 Sun
    • Pretty girl cheap looking gown (NT) -- No name, 04:56:14 09/17/16 Sat
      • It moved beautifully on stage and did not look cheap. I just wish she went for a more vibrant color and selected something a little less matronly. She is gorgeous! (NT) -- No name, 08:52:03 09/17/16 Sat
• IN's dress seemed to be a "love it or hate it" to most people, but I love it! I'm glad she chose something a little different, and she has the height to pull it off. She looked radiant. (NT) -- No name, 17:37:23 09/10/16 Sat
  • Me too! Loved her EG (NT) -- No name, 21:11:11 09/10/16 Sat
    • LOVED Indiana's gown! Even more stunning on stage. (NT) -- No name, 23:07:09 09/10/16 Sat
• (NT) -- No name, 18:12:11 09/10/16 Sat
  • Standouts for me... Vermont and WV (NT) -- No name, 05:25:10 09/11/16 Sun
  • LOVE TX and MD (NT) -- No name, 13:02:57 09/19/16 Mon
• Favorite Dresses: AR DE DC GA IL IN LA ME MD MI MN NY OK SC WA. Bubbles: ID, TX, MS, HI (NT) -- No name, 18:14:38 09/10/16 Sat
• Favorite Gowns: Georgia, Maryland, Minnesota, and Ohio. (NT) -- No name, 18:24:28 09/10/16 Sat
• Can someone please please tell me who makes the yellow gown?! Thank you!! (NT) -- No name, 18:41:05 09/10/16 Sat
  • (The one in the second row) (NT) -- No name, 18:43:49 09/10/16 Sat
• There are some real "been there done that" gowns in this group. Is being original that hard? (NT) -- No name, 19:13:22 09/10/16 Sat
• Maryland and Oklahoma are my fav gowns. Lots of been there-done that in this group. (NT) -- No name, 19:54:27 09/10/16 Sat
• Favorite gowns by row: top - CA - love the color & asymmetrical neckline, as well as her hair pulled back & earrings. Very polished. Row 2 - The only one I like in this row is GA, gown looks like it would move beautifully. Row 3 - LA looks very polished and elegant. KY also nice and MD is gorgeous, but gown looks wrinkled. Is that the fabric? Row 4- No big faves here, so I'll just go with MO. Nothing original but she seems to know how to work it. In a diff angle, MS might be even better. Hard to say. Row 5 - NJ maybe though this is an unflattering angle. Row 6 - RI looks gorgeous here. Everyone else nothing special, and some are wearing gowns that make them look thicker than they are. Row 7 - TX and WA both look terrific. (NT) -- No name, 20:35:18 09/10/16 Sat
• Thank you for this - love seeing the gowns. Love HI, CT, RI, NM, NY, MN, MO, and of course MI - I think she rocked the pants and loved them even more after seeing the Cosmopolitan article on her - why she wore pants (NT) -- No name, 22:48:13 09/10/16 Sat
• Virginia is amazing 🙀 (NT) -- No name, 22:57:33 09/10/16 Sat
• Illinois' dress is boring. She's much sexier (NT) -- No name, 23:34:46 09/10/16 Sat
• Is the black gown in the first collage and Miss New York's gown te same in different colors? (NT) -- No a fan of the skirt on either, 02:34:54 09/11/16 Sun
• 25 white, 6 red, 4 black, 4 blue, 3 burgundy, 3 green/turquoise, 2 yellow, 2 beige/gold, 1 silver, 1 hot pink, 1 light pink (NT) -- No name, 05:45:34 09/11/16 Sun
• Delaware -- Bart Perks, 05:46:05 09/11/16 Sun
• CALIFORNIA -- Jeff Edwards, 06:08:36 09/11/16 Sun
• Thank you so very much! (NT) -- No name, 06:13:17 09/11/16 Sun
• That dark blue gown in the first collage is stunning! Is that Illinois? (NT) -- Dman, 11:04:29 09/11/16 Sun
• Of all the white dresses, I like AK's the most. (NT) -- No name, 11:26:38 09/11/16 Sun
  • Most of these gowns are very "patty" and trite--and some highly touted ones are just plain ugly. Kudos to Connecticut, South Carolina, and Florida. (NT) -- No name, 11:30:42 09/11/16 Sun
• GA's gown reminded me of an updated version of Christina Thompson's (WI 2007) evening gown. (NT) -- No name, 12:22:08 09/11/16 Sun
• I think TN and AR are going to be in the top five. Loved their gowns, very different and not White. ;) (NT) -- No name, 12:48:43 09/11/16 Sun
• Thanks (NT) -- No name, 15:57:01 09/11/16 Sun
• A year of some odd gown choices. TX would have looked better in emerald green a la Alyssa Campanella I think. Didn't love NJ's as it is a bit teen. MO should have gone with a diff color as the red clashes with her hair. OH's gown looks odd in photos but in person is actually very nice. CA's gown cuts her up and isn't flattering to her already petite size. NY's gown doesn't flatter her body and makes her look a bit heavier than she is because of the tail/poufy skirt. CT's gown is perfect though. (NT) -- No name, 17:46:17 09/11/16 Sun
• Miss Maryland - what a beautiful dress, It looks good on her. (NT) -- DNO, 18:55:13 09/11/16 Sun
• Miss GA looks SO MUCH like Katherine Putnam in that red dress. (NT) -- HCS, 19:04:30 09/11/16 Sun
• Thank you, Collage Queen! (NT) -- No name, 00:48:30 09/15/16 Thu
  • God I love Connecticut in this shot. (NT) -- No name, 07:37:07 09/16/16 Fri
• Alaska's would have been even better if it had been white jersey instead of typical patty sheen stiff material, perhaps, black or white jersey or crepe. I love that maroon jersey gown beside it. Cali's gown was stunning in motion. Who designed it? Greg Ellenburg? (NT) -- La momma, 09:09:50 09/16/16 Fri
  • CALIFORNIA CALIFORNIA CAIFORNIA (NT) -- No name, 09:21:04 09/16/16 Fri
• NY and ID are very similar dresses, just different colors and different cape/train materials (NT) -- No name, 12:21:27 09/16/16 Fri
• Love Florida, Alabama, and Texas are my favorites! (NT) -- No name, 12:22:55 09/16/16 Fri
• I think Miss CA was best in gown. (NT) -- No name, 05:36:31 09/17/16 Sat
  • I thought she was one of the best too! I liked the color and the simplicity of the cut. Elegant and classic! (NT) -- No name, 08:54:03 09/17/16 Sat
    • Who was the designer of Miss California's breathtaking gown? It was certainly the best WOW gown on stage (NT) -- No name, 10:27:32 09/17/16 Sat
      • I believe Mia Bella Couture helped her pick/design dress. They work a lot with Jovani. They are a state sponsor. https://www.miabellacouture.com (NT) -- No name, 22:42:30 09/17/16 Sat
• I'm sorry, but not a fab of IA's gown. However, it worked for her. (NT) -- No name, 12:59:17 09/19/16 Mon

• She is in a lose lose situation with those types of questions because one side will not agree so it will just start the bashing. I though Miss A was suppose to be a shining light. What these questions have to do with bring a spokesperson for CMN and the other duties of the Miss A is beyond me, but not sure why they are OSQ''s either. Smh!! (NT) -- No name, 01:44:26 09/17/16 Sat
  • How can we consider Miss America "relevant" if she isn't up to speed on current events -- these questions were about current events -- there's a reason contestants are told to read a newspaper everyday -- that reason is current event questions.
    (NT) -- No name, 09:28:21 09/17/16 Sat
• She should be able to handle those throws of questions as Miss America (and she has). (NT) -- No name, 09:08:07 09/17/16 Sat
  • Thank goodness they crowned the right Miss, she can answer anything very well! LOVE HER! (NT) -- No name, 09:34:37 09/17/16 Sat
• where can i find this (NT) -- No name, 13:26:24 09/17/16 Sat
  • Facebook - Miss America Organization (NT) -- No name, 13:40:44 09/17/16 Sat
• I am serious BUT I watched Savvy on Live with Kelli and did anyone notice a lady in the audience cackling her head off?!? It was very obnoxious and even Savvy looked that way a couple of times where the cacaphony was coming from!!! (NT) -- No name, 18:06:20 09/17/16 Sat
• I'm not sure what you're thinking. The reason so many of the OSQs are political is because that is what many people ask these titleholders when they are in public. That's what these girls train for and that's why Savvy did so well answering ridiculous questions. I hope non-pageant people can see the difference and intelligence of our MAO titleholders. Keep it up, Savvy. You are wonderful. (NT) -- No name, 22:47:25 09/17/16 Sat
  • But there is no point to it. Why ask them those questions??? It's because that's what they are given on TV. Times change but at some point people figured they had to make these ladies sound smart so they started asking political questions to prove they actually have other thoughts than dresses and lipstick and knitting. Now it's gotten ridiculous and it's actually trying to capture these ladies in a moment they are unable to think as fast on their feet instead of showing their intelligence. (NT) -- No name, 06:35:55 09/18/16 Sun
• This is interesting because when Savvy did the interview with Megan Alexander her handler wouldn't let her answer any political questions. Savvy had to keep it about the pageant only. Megan Alexander's letter is posted on here somewhere.. (NT) -- No name, 16:18:00 09/18/16 Sun

• Savvy GMA: http://youtu.be/3NnL6qQPyco (NT) -- No name, 07:47:34 09/14/16 Wed
  • She was on Fox and Friends this morning (NT) -- No name, 08:00:05 09/14/16 Wed
• I have never me Savvy but hope to. I think she was an incredible choice and will be a Miss America that MANY people love for years to come. Perfect. Of course not. Will everyone love her. No. But I honestly think most will. The non pageant people in my office love her. And believe me, they do not hold back when they do not like the winner. Same witih our state winners. They are brutally honest. (NT) -- No name, 09:41:19 09/14/16 Wed
• She does remind me of Phyllis as well. (NT) -- No name, 11:36:06 09/14/16 Wed
  • Me too on Phyllis! (NT) -- No name, 17:37:53 09/14/16 Wed
• "...will be a Miss America that MANY people love for years to come"? Come on, I like Savvy and think she's exactly what the pageant needed post-Betty, but let's not go crazy. I think most people would be hard-pressed to name a Miss America who is out of the entertainment or news field. (NT) -- No name, 13:35:14 09/14/16 Wed
  • Exactly. Lol. People on this board are so funny and super self-important when it comes to their opinion. (NT) -- No name, 12:26:46 09/18/16 Sun
• Cute personality, bad hair (dry) and really awful dress choice. Ugh Ribkoff so cheap looking. (NT) -- No name, 16:20:58 09/14/16 Wed
• I love her - agree she is so likeable - she reminds me of Kelly they look and speak very similarly - she will be a wonderful representative (NT) -- No name, 17:49:09 09/14/16 Wed
  • I want to start taking bets on how long the love fest will last. Every year we begin with the love and before the reign ends it turns to a hate fest. (NT) -- No name, 04:24:38 09/15/16 Thu
    • So this year let's all be conscious of that and not allow it to happen! The program will never turn around and encourage new women to join and compete if they see nothing but bashing and venom on these boards. (NT) -- No name, 06:34:16 09/15/16 Thu
      • You don't have to tell good people to be conscienious not to bash; and the "haters" won't listen. The program will not attract new contestants because of the program itself, which is the way it is because of the leadership, not pageant gossip boards newbies don't even know exist. (NT) -- "Let's all" is really passive-aggressive (pet peeve) for "you people"., 06:53:10 09/15/16 Thu
        • No it's not...it's simply a statement asking for everyone to be a little kinder when addressing contestants on this board...you have read into something that was not intended...perhaps it's you, not you people, who have an issue with passive aggression? (NT) -- No name, 09:39:16 09/15/16 Thu
        • Does anyone have statistics on local/state participation numbers from 2013-2016? (NT) -- No name, 11:54:47 09/15/16 Thu
• I thought she was delightful in this clip. They just need to strap that arm down to keep it out of the hair/bang! That was my only critique - your hair looks great - keep hands out of it during interviews. (NT) -- No name, 06:16:22 09/15/16 Thu
• Great choice in choosing Miss America this year judges. (NT) -- No name, 02:58:02 09/18/16 Sun
  • I agree! I have watched most of her media interviews, and I love her! I am the happiest I have been in years with this choice. She just exudes personality and seems to love people and truly wants to meet them and hear their story. So humble and genuine. (NT) -- No name, 10:20:12 09/18/16 Sun

• Thank you for sharing. (NT) -- No name, 00:03:35 09/15/16 Thu
• Anyone know if she was the last contestant alive from the 1939 Miss America pageant? (NT) -- Are there any others still alive in their homestates or living elsewhere?, 14:11:22 09/17/16 Sat
• Miss Washington - my, how shapely. She looks almost nude or like she has a mannequin's body. By the way, which girl in this photo is the OP posting about? (NT) -- No name, 18:41:48 09/17/16 Sat
  • I was thinking the same thing about Miss Washington. What a body! (NT) -- No name, 19:19:45 09/17/16 Sat
  • Miss Washington. -- Smile Pretty, 19:20:54 09/17/16 Sat
• Crazy how much orthodontics has improved the looks or beautiful smiles in this country over the years. (NT) -- No name, 06:22:32 09/18/16 Sun

• Ditto!!! (NT) -- No name, 13:07:58 09/16/16 Fri
• who did her choreography? And can they help everyone else get it together??? GREAT TALENT AND GREAT CHOREOGRAPHY! (NT) -- No name, 13:21:38 09/16/16 Fri
  • AC Ciulla in NYC. (NT) -- No name, 16:15:08 09/16/16 Fri
  • Entertaining but I wouldn't say great and Im a fan of her! (NT) -- No name, 12:05:37 09/17/16 Sat
• AC is the new hot MAO choreographer! (NT) -- No name, 18:38:09 09/17/16 Sat

• Yes! And all of the network shows would have 30 sec commercials during the telecast. The women competing were larger than life celebrities, It was much watch TV. Does anyone remember the old sponsor parties at the pageant? I remember attending as a guest of Proctor & Gamble, it was very glamorous. (NT) -- No name, 10:57:46 09/16/16 Fri
  • *must watch TV (NT) -- like the Emmys, Oscars, and Tony Awards, 10:58:58 09/16/16 Fri
• And I am myself feeling nostalgic today, Saturday, September 17th as it was exactly 33 years ago tonight that double priminary winner Miss New York, Vanessa Lynn Williams became Miss America 1984. (NT) -- And thus she became the first black woman to win the Miss America title, and she succeeded by Miss New Jersey, Suzette Charless nine months later, who was the second black Miss America. Happy 33rd Anniversary., 14:08:18 09/17/16 Sat

• The states are listed in alphabetical order AL-WY (NT) -- No name, 07:42:05 09/17/16 Sat

• What the heck is this "no shade" stuff? (NT) -- No name, 22:18:48 09/16/16 Fri
  • Your age is showing. No shade intended. (NT) -- No name, 22:23:57 09/16/16 Fri
• Hardly a glaring mistake. A simple (and fixable) typo. (NT) -- Mary ❤️, 23:41:16 09/16/16 Fri

• Olivia Jordan held a different national title before competing in MUO & winning Miss USA. (NT) -- Anon, 12:08:05 09/16/16 Fri
  • yes but MA is so worried about cross overs, banning sweetheart, etc... (NT) -- No name, 16:56:22 09/16/16 Fri
    • who are you refering to Savvy won arkansas outstanding teen (NT) -- No name, 18:52:39 09/16/16 Fri
      • She won the Collegiate America title a few years back. I don't see it as scandalous at all! They should want ladies from different systems crossing over to grow their numbers. (NT) -- HNJ, 19:02:15 09/16/16 Fri
• No. (NT) -- No name, 19:04:26 09/16/16 Fri
• For the love just move on!! -- No name, 19:19:59 09/16/16 Fri
• There should be NOTHING scandalous... She won the 2013 Collegiate America title, but that was over 3 years ago when she wasn't even competing in MAO still. People, go find something else to gripe about instead of flat out air. (NT) -- No name, 19:49:58 09/16/16 Fri
  • I think this was a dig at MAO and had nothing to do with our current Miss America. She was just used as an example. Yes, I do think we might be driving some awesome ladies away from our system. (NT) -- No name, 20:20:29 09/16/16 Fri
• Pageants are fun, and the more experience you have, the better you'll do. Why penalize girls for enjoying being in pageants where they'll learn skills and be better performers? As I said, pageants are fun. If you want to do pageants, are you supposed to just wait til you can enter Miss America, really you can't do any pageants when you're younger? That's so stupid. -- No name, 21:33:56 09/16/16 Fri
• Not kidding, I know NINE young ladies who are the age to do MAO and not one of them has bothered. Two said they felt like if you didn't start out in MAOT that you wouldn't have a chance. SEVEN of them all said they didn't want to bother entering when they'd be looked down on...they think they'd be looked down on because they all did pageants as kids. If we don't get over that, we will lose tons of girls. I say start advertising for local prelims AT other pageants, advertise AT kids pageants, etc. we need to bring in girls and the girls who would love to enter are the same girls who have been loving being in pageants for years. But we can't get them to cross over because they think they're not wanted!j -- No name, 21:39:03 09/16/16 Fri

• Yes - the Director of MAO Florida is welcoming and encouraging while the Director of MUO is petty, shows favoritism and is insane. Girls don't want to compete in the MUO system because they know it's rigged and they're likely to deal with an insane amount of drama. For proof head over to the Florida Voy page where you can see the two systems battle it out. (NT) -- No name, 14:54:26 09/16/16 Fri
  • That board is not a true reflection of MAO in FL. Whoever the admin is, has not once in several years removed any bashing, including some really nasty things that could probably hold up in court for slander or harassment. The primary posted is Grant Gravitt attempting to promote his pageant, and frankly after seeing how dirty he plays, I wouldn't be surprised if he bashes himself just to keep conversation going. He is very much of the belief that as long as people are talking about you, even if it is negative, it is good publicity. (NT) -- No name, 21:09:54 09/16/16 Fri
• Besides Florida has only had one national USA winner and she took over the title in 1967 after sylvia Hitchcock won Universe. 1967. (NT) -- No name, 17:25:11 09/16/16 Fri
  • To be fair, both the FL franchises have had a lot of drama around them. (NT) -- No name, 18:49:09 09/16/16 Fri
  • I remember Sylvia Hitchcock winning Miss USA and then Miss Universe. She was from Florida, but represented Alabama (she went to the University of Alabama) in the pageant. I thought she was beautiful. I just found out that she died last year. Does anyone know how? (NT) -- No name, 21:14:20 09/16/16 Fri
• As someone who has family and friends who have competed in both systems, Florida MAO is run much more professionally. There are a million reasons I could give, but my biggest beef is how the pageants are judged, FL USA does not announce judges before the pageant and they are never pageant experienced, sometimes using the same judges back to back. Over a 3 yr period one woman judged the teen pageant, the following year she was the sole auditor and then came back the 3rd time and was a judge again, all the while running a local feeder pageant. This combined with the fact that the pageant is run by a mother and son with zero accountability and they are the ones who are with the judges from start to finish. (NT) -- No name, 20:49:52 09/16/16 Fri
  • Cont. That is not to say that FLMAO is perfect, but there is a BOD and accountability, results are computer generated, with multiple auditors at the table. Again, not always perfect, but professional (NT) -- No name, 20:58:19 09/16/16 Fri
    • thank you i see the quality of winners in MAO and laxk thereof in muo. Texas seems the same for the last few years in miss/ They usualy have great teens (NT) -- No name, 21:09:55 09/16/16 Fri

• Memorial Day Weekend (NT) -- No name, 19:40:02 09/16/16 Fri
  • And how about Znew Jersey? (NT) -- No name, 20:22:45 09/16/16 Fri

• That award is given to the highest scoring NF who is majoring in Communications. How many were eligible? (NT) -- No name, 13:52:07 09/12/16 Mon
• i just read that NE won the Non Finalist Interview award. Anyone know for sure who won? (NT) -- No name, 14:37:50 09/12/16 Mon
• Can someone please clarify? I just saw a photo of Nebraska and Sam and the caption was that Nebraska won NF interview. (NT) -- No name, 14:52:57 09/12/16 Mon
  • Do we know if both Florida & Nebraska won NFI? (NT) -- No name, 16:52:49 09/15/16 Thu
    • NE won the NF Interview Award for someone majoring in Communications and Journalism, not the main NF award. (NT) -- No name, 16:36:27 09/16/16 Fri
• Courtney posted on the Miss FL Facebook page that she received a non finalist interview award as well. It might have been both? (NT) -- No name, 12:38:00 09/16/16 Fri
• I'm pretty sure there's a Non-Finalist Interview award, and another award named after someone that's only for contestants majoring in communications.I think they are two different interview awards. (NT) -- No name, 12:47:53 09/16/16 Fri
  • John Curran (NT) -- No name, 12:52:21 09/16/16 Fri

• They don't. People have been requesting this for years. (NT) -- No name, 00:06:38 09/15/16 Thu
• This should be happening. Even if they are booking her a week out they should update a calendar on the web site (NT) -- No name, 05:09:17 09/15/16 Thu
• They dont do this because they dont want people to know how bad or unimpressive some of the appearances (or lack thereof) really are. (NT) -- No name, 05:54:05 09/15/16 Thu
• They claim that it's for security purposes, but I have to say I agree with the above. If MAO fans knew the ridiculous things Miss America does on a daily basis, they would be surprised. (NT) -- No name, 06:06:29 09/15/16 Thu
  • I just want to know if and when she comes to town so I can meet her. That's really not a lot to ask (NT) -- No name, 06:15:19 09/15/16 Thu
• They do not promote appearances she is booked and paid to attend. That is up to the booking party. I do agree that they should publicize the events that they arrange with things like CMN or her platform. But things change so quickly unless they are paid appearances. (NT) -- No name, 11:15:14 09/15/16 Thu
  • Why not, though? Promoting those appearances promotes THEIR brand. How do we still have 12 year olds running this organization (NT) -- No name, 07:58:05 09/16/16 Fri
• That's true...appearances are local yokel compared to universe/USA.... (NT) -- No name, 06:03:13 09/16/16 Fri

• congratulations to Caressa* (NT) -- No name, 15:15:36 09/15/16 Thu
  • I absolutely love Caressa and their baby. I just didn't want to mention it on here, but she has posted some fabulous photos and messages. (NT) -- No name, 17:07:49 09/15/16 Thu
• If you know how to post photos please do! She shared it on her public fan page so i'm sure she wouldn't mind. I just love babies :) Can't wait to see Katie's as well! (NT) -- No name, 18:28:32 09/15/16 Thu
  • Katie who? (NT) -- No name, 18:48:16 09/15/16 Thu
    • Stam! She's having a little boy next month. (NT) -- No name, 20:29:44 09/15/16 Thu
• Congratulations, Katie! (NT) -- No name, 18:36:27 09/15/16 Thu
  • *and Caressa! (NT) -- No name, 19:40:24 09/15/16 Thu

• What happened to all the replies posted here earlier? (NT) -- No name, 17:20:37 09/14/16 Wed
  • Moderator censors post that they don't like......just like Miss A is being censored. I guess Moderator supports the idea of censorship. I certainly know that my post wasn't offensive but it wasn't supportive of MAO either and POOF! It's gone....big surprise. (NT) -- No name, 20:46:20 09/14/16 Wed
    • Sorry, I just got home. Haven't deleted anything from here. (NT) -- Mod, 22:10:35 09/14/16 Wed
  • The replies are still posted with the original post. For some reason this subject was reposted. (NT) -- No name, 09:36:30 09/15/16 Thu
• Can I get a big HOORAY for an amazing response to this experience from interviewer? Instead of reinforcing the stereotype they did something about it and posted. Savvy is clearly articulate and it is a shame that the Miss America PR people are so worried about image that these girls can't do what they have trained to do- be articulate, passionate, and eloquent speakers on difficult topics. I hope they will wise up and realize Savvy can be a great asset to the org! (NT) -- No name, 17:21:20 09/14/16 Wed
• What is going on with the PR staff? They censor their winner, preventing her from answering a straightforward question she is fully capable of answering and they schedule her to be interviewed by a person on Fox and Friends who their own former representative -- Gretchen Carlson -- cited in her sexual harassment and discrimination lawsuit (Mr Steve doocy). According to Gretchen, he is no friend of accomplished women . (NT) -- No name, 17:29:17 09/14/16 Wed
  • It doesnt look like there is a PR staff. According to their website there is only one person listed in PR area. Do you think any staffer are making these deteminations? They are just following orders from the top. (NT) -- No name, 23:08:54 09/14/16 Wed
• This right here is what is wrong with the pageant. Miss A is no longer in the co conversation. Keep her in a bubble. This stinks. (NT) -- No name, 17:29:27 09/14/16 Wed
• How sad this makes me. I thought Miss America was about empowereing women. (NT) -- No name, 18:11:29 09/14/16 Wed
  • LOL! Silly!!! (NT) -- No name, 23:18:21 09/14/16 Wed
• Miss WA got that question ON STAGE! Why is it not OK for the new Miss America to answer it? She could have easily drawn that question herself? (NT) -- Confused, 18:36:14 09/14/16 Wed
• Shindle and Mallory need to run with this. -- No name, 21:19:56 09/14/16 Wed
  • This is how the organization has changed now that Sam is CEO. A friend of mine was Miss America in the seventies. Shortly after she won, she was told she could say ANYTHING she wanted to say during her year, however the caveat was that she needed to remember that she, not the organization was responsible for the ownership of any feedback, negative or positive. At least she was not censored! (NT) -- No name, 21:20:45 09/14/16 Wed
    • Tawny Godin? She is the only smart unpageanty MA from the 70s that I can remember. (NT) -- Maybe Becky King?, 21:48:27 09/14/16 Wed
• John Oliver (NT) -- No name, 22:14:02 09/14/16 Wed
• It's probably come to this because of all the mean things people posted here about that little interview of Betty. That was really a minor nothing. Now, just look at all the trouble you have caused. (NT) -- No name, 22:59:34 09/14/16 Wed
  • Yes, that's ridulous! (NT) -- No name, 23:20:21 09/14/16 Wed
  • lol Yes, blame Betty's own words and interview on the voy posters. (NT) -- No name, 13:31:51 09/15/16 Thu
• Miss America Pageant -- No name, 23:19:04 09/14/16 Wed
  • Nobody cares what you think. (NT) -- No name, 23:49:30 09/14/16 Wed
  • This is why there is a protective PR person. (NT) -- No name, 03:20:49 09/15/16 Thu
• A spokesperson for our country? (NT) -- I don't think so, 23:53:13 09/14/16 Wed
  • I like this year's winner but no way is a pageant winner a "spokerperson for our country". That's laughable. (NT) -- No name, 02:05:46 09/15/16 Thu
  • Good points. However, she is the spokesperson for the Miss America Org. not our country. You would have to be elected official to be spokesperson for the country. The Miss America Org pays Miss America to be their spokesperson to represent and promote them and their sponsors, as "they" see fit. At the end of the day, like it or not, its a job that Miss America is paid to do. Sure she is entitled to her opinions but like anyother job you represent your employer and its not really necessarily about what the employee, in this case Miss America, has or wants to say. (NT) -- No name, 09:25:10 09/15/16 Thu
• I understand the author of this (Megan Kelly) took it down from her public facebook. It looks like someone is censoring her too. (NT) -- No name, 12:37:11 09/15/16 Thu
• Inside Edition correspondent Megan Alexander noted she had previously competed in pageants. Anyone know where and what pageant(s) and how she placed? (NT) -- Megan is a bright star in tabloid "journalism" and is a good fair-minded reporter. Glad she wrote this. And watch for her segment with Savannah Shields today or Friday on Inside Edition., 13:52:14 09/15/16 Thu

• I'm glad SC changed her talent. (NT) -- No name, 14:50:31 09/10/16 Sat
• Thanks to the OP for compiling this. (NT) -- No name, 01:25:03 09/15/16 Thu
• Thank you, thank you, thank you. Every year after each state win I research what each state winner did for talent and then I post the list here. Usually 30-40% change their talent songs/selections from state to final. I don't go to AC and no one usually posts this update, so thank you so much!!! (NT) -- No name, 06:27:39 09/15/16 Thu
• For two years in a row I've found via Miss America a terrific song -- both from Smash. Savvy's song this year & Taylor W.'s song last year. Woohoo! I've friends who wrote off & dismissed Smash when it debuted. Glad to find these gems, indeed. (NT) -- No name, 13:25:21 09/15/16 Thu

• Hooray!! A lot of smaller states realize that the pageant is not for them. (NT) -- No name, 17:38:51 09/12/16 Mon
• If MAO Wants ratings and support they need to adapt to the times as an organization. See Miss USA they do specials on the girls, do community engagement like displaying live tweeting. I mean come on their show is 3 hours ours is 2 and we even have talent! (NT) -- No name, 18:13:33 09/12/16 Mon
  • MUO's special focusing on their titleholders was inspired by 20/20's Miss America Confidential. (NT) -- Anon, 14:14:22 09/14/16 Wed
• t (NT) -- No name, 12:29:31 09/14/16 Wed
• does not surprise us. (NT) -- No name, 12:47:50 09/14/16 Wed
• I've been watching since I was 4 years old and I am now 42. I even stuck with it through the bad reality show stuff. But this year, I watched it and I think I am done. I love the winner and I think she is a classic Miss America and amazing, but I can't with the rest of the pageant and the judges...it has now become a pageant that is more about the celebrity judges and "entertainment value". The it (NT) -- No name, 09:32:03 09/15/16 Thu
  • ( cont'd). The irony is is that the minute Miss America tried to be "hip and relevant" it was not. People want a pageant, production numbers and they want to see real talent. (NT) -- No name, 09:34:18 09/15/16 Thu
    • I agree with this statement. Miss America has always been about beauty, talent,and glamour. Hip and relevant fell flat with the cup and a marginally talent interview queen. Say what you like about Betty, but she is gorgeous and wicked talented. Anyone who sees Miss America expects at least that. Savvy is definitely talented and more than pretty. She fits the mold. Reminds me of someone who woul have been crowned in the 80's. So, how does the program matter to young women again? 80K used to compete each year for the coveted 50 spots. Now it's 8K. Get rid of Sam and his cronies, put a few formers in charge, offer a $100K scholarship package, plus a year of appearances that will allow a young woman to make career contacts as well as serve. It can be done, folks. And gutting deplorable state organizations is the first thing that needs to appen. IL took a stand last year! (NT) -- No name, 12:35:29 09/15/16 Thu
• The pageant was up against the Patriots vs Arizona game. People wanted to see the Patriots without Tom Brady more then the pageant. (NT) -- No name, 12:26:27 09/15/16 Thu

• NFL has over 20 million more viewers than we did. Big Brother video show had bigger ratings. How will Sam spin this? (NT) -- No name, 16:14:13 09/12/16 Mon
  • NFL will always be bigger than pageants (NT) -- No name, 19:17:28 09/12/16 Mon
• Putting it up against the opening weekend of NFL was just dumb. They should move it back to Saturday night and not compete with football. It could also be more "showy". Miss USA/UNiverse usually have some fairly big name musical acts perform and the production value is better. (NT) -- No name, 18:02:07 09/12/16 Mon
  • Saturday night just as bad. Then they are competing against major college football games. Numerous ones around the country every Saturday night. (NT) -- No name, 18:03:47 09/12/16 Mon
  • MAO can't afford big name entertainment, Sam's got his big salary. (NT) -- No name, 18:05:41 09/12/16 Mon
  • If MAO had professional entertainment throughout, people would complain that it's no longer about the girls, just as they do about the celebrity judges. Plus, it would take away from the talent competition and the girls would be compared to the professional acts. That would not be fair! (NT) -- ., 14:48:59 09/14/16 Wed
• ABC chooses the date and time. Friday night is low TV audience, Saturday night is college football, Sunday night is NFL but only one game and it is high TV night,. (NT) -- No name, 18:18:12 09/12/16 Mon
• Ratings: Miss America Slips 13 Percent From Last Year http://www.thewrap.com/miss-america-savvy-shields-nfl-tv-ratings/ (NT) (NT) -- No name, 18:27:42 09/12/16 Mon
• constructively, I hated the telecast. The female cohost was annoying and not very impressive. The fact that they introduced the judges ahead of calling the top ten made me say "is this about the celeb judges or the contestants?". I hated the swimsuit competition; next year just bring 15 stripper poles on the stage and make it a gyration contest. NOT ONCE did the contestants mention where they attend college or their major. STOP sticking microphones in peoples' faces and asking how they feel just before a big announcement or as they are being eliminated. Get the judges off stage. A friend text me a picture of one of the judges getting hair and make=up adjustments for the THIRD time during a commercial break. Make your male judges remove their baseball caps for the telecast. And those final questions were written solely to be controversial and to get Twitter hits from the answers - - they were not written....more, click in..... -- No name, 18:31:55 09/12/16 Mon
  • Well said. The CEO is also the Executive Chairman of the MAO board so he spin it or do whatever he wants. (NT) -- No name, 18:35:52 09/12/16 Mon
  • I agree with you 100% Hated the show. I've been watching MA for over 50 years. Some years the show is cheesey, some years it is boring, some years it is fun, and this year was just awful. Hate almost everything about it. Hate the contestants sitting on stage, hate the "elimination" bit (this is not a reality show!), hate the judges parading across the stage, hate the intros outdoors, hate just about everything about it. This is all about production. I love the girls and love watching the competition. Let's go back to the days of focusing on them! (NT) -- No name, 19:18:04 09/12/16 Mon
• Worst moment for me was asking Kentucky what she was going to perform. Very Sad. (NT) -- No name, 18:55:58 09/12/16 Mon
  • She should have answered: What does it matter, nobody is going to see it! That would have showed DC Productions how stupid it is to have two girls sitting there in costume and not get the opportunity to perform their talent. (NT) -- No name, 19:20:57 09/12/16 Mon
• Maybe it should be moved to another time of year. Too much competition on Saturday and Sunday nights with college and NFL football. Wonder if it would do better in mid-August or move it to January again. They are never going to get good viewership numbers when up against football. Just not going to happen. (NT) -- No name, 19:18:31 09/12/16 Mon
  • Its never going to get more viewers, so why not just produce a pageant that would thrill the small group that will watch? (NT) -- No name, 19:27:40 09/12/16 Mon
    • Good point. I not a fan of any of Dick Clark's productions shows. They all seemed rushed and disjointed to me. (NT) -- No name, 19:34:46 09/12/16 Mon
      • Do any of them introduce the people who run the various organizations that produce the program? (NT) -- No name, 19:37:04 09/12/16 Mon
        • Good point, I dont recall ever seeing staff or executive intros. (NT) -- No name, 20:15:00 09/12/16 Mon
• .....Even if Steve Harvey is now connected with Miss Universe (scheduled host again for this year's Miss Universe pageant in December) why couldn't that so-called Celebrity Family Feud not have been two "families" of past Miss America winners? (NT) -- Or...have one show of past Miss America winners and another show of Miss America vs Miss America's Outstanding Teen winners?, 19:50:59 09/12/16 Mon
  • DCP and Sam are making huge pay checks. Why change? (NT) -- No name, 20:18:07 09/12/16 Mon
  • Or former Miss A's against former Miss USA's? Might certainly help JQ Public differentiate the two! My boss asked me this morning, is this the one with talent? LOL (NT) -- No name, 20:20:20 09/12/16 Mon
    • Funny you say there was actaully a Family Feud that had former Miss A's vs. USA's in the 80's. They played for charity and it was fun. (NT) -- No name, 08:45:17 09/13/16 Tue
      • This would play into the " sister queens" (NT) -- No name, 05:30:27 09/15/16 Thu
• my personal opinion is it does not matter when it is if you are going to watch and like it you will. It is like anything else if you do not like football you do not care and do not watch it over MA. I really think the program is going away to many. (NT) -- No name, 08:52:35 09/13/16 Tue
• Thank you (NT) -- No name, 12:20:38 09/14/16 Wed
• Part of the problem is no one even knows miss America still exists. Until the come up with a massive PR plan viewership will continue to decrease. (NT) -- No name, 15:50:14 09/14/16 Wed
  • PR gold was handed to them on a silver platter. It was ignored. (NT) -- No name, 18:32:01 09/14/16 Wed