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Subject: Pray for Miss America
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:10:31 07/26/24 Fri (NoHost/107.115.163.120) This Monday is the big Mediation between Robin and Glenn. Please pray that they can put their differences aside and come up with a compromise as to who owns Miss America. This is going to absolutely break the organization of this lawsuit continues to the end. If Robin is named owner, then Miss America no longer has any money to run. If Glenn is named owner, then we will have a major fiasco of a man with his reputation being the sole owner. We need both of them for different reasons. Pray for a supernatural breakthrough for them to reconcile their differences and come together in a new way to lead Miss America together like they originally envisioned. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Wrong again. If Glenn is named owner I don’t care about his reputation, Robin’s or Gretchen’s or Sam’s was no better… he has the money and will put the right people in place to run it. Good riddance to Robin.. no one “needs” her (NT) -- No name, 13:42:20 07/26/24 Fri (NoHost/172.56.67.140) What is your issue regarding prayer? (NT) -- No name, 14:19:36 07/26/24 Fri (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) BRAVO!!! 100% agree. Glenn isn't looking to be a "hands-on" owner, he's already made that clear. Let him put the new CEO in place who isn't personally cash strapped and desperate. That way she won't be giving herself unauthorized payments and can focus on putting us on the right path. (NT) -- No name, 14:25:55 07/26/24 Fri (NoHost/139.71.144.9) PERIOD (NT) -- No name, 16:17:50 07/26/24 Fri (NoHost/172.56.67.140) Why would anybody want Robin to remain!?! She is fleecing these ladies and offering them nothing but lies in return. The only thing I'm hoping for is her swift removal. (NT) -- No name, 18:38:44 07/26/24 Fri (c-76-134-28-45.hsd1.ar.comcast.net/76.134.28.45)

Subject: And just as predicted rebel will require a different color for state and national pageants
Author: Called it [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:35:37 07/22/24 Mon (syn-047-032-045-183.res.spectrum.com/47.32.45.183) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Says who? Where have you heard this info? (NT) -- No name, 18:00:56 07/22/24 Mon (224.sub-174-197-68.myvzw.com/174.197.68.224) Our girls have said that they can continue to compete in what they have "until the change is made" then they will have to purchase the new color. I wonder what type of kickback Robin is getting from this. Once again working girls who are trying to get through school are going to be pushed out of this system. (NT) -- No name, 19:35:44 07/22/24 Mon (c-76-134-28-45.hsd1.ar.comcast.net/76.134.28.45) States haven't been told any change will happen in the foreseeable future re: Rebel color. To everyone's knowledge, Red will continue to be used due to our connection with AHA (NT) -- No name, 00:36:00 07/23/24 Tue (ip67-154-149-180.z149-154-67.customer.algx.net/67.154.149.180) and this will cause sizes not being in stock, they need to rethink this, (NT) -- No name, 22:07:43 07/22/24 Mon (108-239-242-250.lightspeed.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net/108.239.242.250) If this is true, I've been saying this from the start of Rebel. You can't expect these girls to spend hundreds on shit they'll wear once. (NT) -- No name, 16:53:40 07/23/24 Tue (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) The bike shorts are $48. This is not a budget buster. If they really can't swing fifty bucks for a judged phase of competition, pageant world is just not for them. (NT) -- Scholarship or not, spending a hundred bucks on active wear is a very minimal competition expense., 16:28:50 07/24/24 Wed (NoHost/170.94.50.18) When the entry fee for a local is supposed to be around $100, the same amount on a single wardrobe item is ridiculous (NT) -- No name, 16:48:55 07/24/24 Wed (NoHost/172.56.201.186) for a pair of biker shorts.... what about the top genius? $50-60. That's over $100. (NT) -- No name, 17:55:25 07/24/24 Wed (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) They spend this much or more on Lululemon. (NT) -- No name, 19:20:40 07/24/24 Wed (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) That's why I said "spending a hundred bucks on active wear"... genius. If they can't afford to compete, don't compete. Hobbies cost money. (NT) -- No name, 12:27:56 07/25/24 Thu (NoHost/170.94.50.18) Hobbies cost money, but your uniform/wardrobe shouldn't cost more than registration. Could you imagine paying $200 for your kids soccer registration then being told you ALSO have to buy a $200 soccer team uniform that probably won't fit them in a couple years. Parents would have a fit. (NT) -- No name, 18:05:04 07/25/24 Thu (NoHost/172.58.27.169) How do you explain to a brand new 13 year old contestant and her parents "hey, you have to pay this and pay that AND - oh yeah - get a $100 fitness outfit (they'll never wear again) to compete in this program. Maybe you are from a "pageant state" but I'm not. Yes hobbies cost money but I don't live in huge pageant area so it's hard to get new contestants anyway. But cool story. (NT) -- No name, 14:46:57 07/26/24 Fri (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) This is a pageant. If you don’t have money to compete don’t compete. It’s just like dance and sports if you can’t afford it don’t do it. If people really need scholarship there are much more lucrative ways to get them. Let’s be honest, pageants are expensive and an extracurricular activity. -- It’s not free, 18:41:32 07/23/24 Tue (NoHost/172.58.244.20) Wow, such an elitist attitude. I know many girls who have paid for their school through this system and the had mother's who made their wardrobe and bought from resale shops. You absolutely can compete without being rich, or at least you used to be able to. Why call it a scholarship opportunity when those who need and want to compete can't. This whole system touts helping young women get a higher education debt free so how about you stick that elitist crude wherebthe sun don't shine. (NT) -- No name, 19:35:59 07/23/24 Tue (c-76-134-28-45.hsd1.ar.comcast.net/76.134.28.45) You’re welcome to call it whatever you want but you are not being realistic. Robin shared with Ed’s when she became CEO that it is not a scholarship opportunity. Scholarship is part of a prize package. And I can’t imagine girls who are winning at this point in time wearing homemade clothes. Not that you can’t do it on a budget. But if you call me an elitist, then you must be a socialist! There are opportunities in his world that don’t come with this kind of cost but pageantry isn’t one of them. -- Na, 20:18:26 07/23/24 Tue (NoHost/172.58.244.20) Praying that her lying broke self is gone soon. I don't care what you can or cannot imagine, just because you may not have any talent there are parents out there who can sew and do amazing things. I'm far from being a socialist, but that doesn't mean I care for elitist who think they are better than others. If MAO is moving away from being a scholarship system then they need to say so and quit hiding behind the scholarships. If they donthis though it will be the end of them. Being a scholarship system is the only thing keeping the girls competing. (NT) -- No name, 22:57:24 07/23/24 Tue (c-76-134-28-45.hsd1.ar.comcast.net/76.134.28.45) Praying that her lying broke self is gone soon. I don't care what you can or cannot imagine, just because you may not have any talent there are parents out there who can sew and do amazing things. I'm far from being a socialist, but that doesn't mean I care for elitist who think they are better than others. If MAO is moving away from being a scholarship system then they need to say so and quit hiding behind the scholarships. If they donthis though it will be the end of them. Being a scholarship system is the only thing keeping the girls competing. (NT) -- No name, 23:17:40 07/23/24 Tue (mobile-107-77-196-196.mobile.att.net/107.77.196.196) The opposite of elitist is DEMOCRATIC, not socialist. (NT) -- how did you even get a degree???, 15:30:40 07/24/24 Wed (unn-185-156-46-167.datapacket.com/185.156.46.167) Hahaha good one. So republicans are elitists and all the rest of you are democrats lol I know what democrats are these days and I call it as I see it. This person was name calling because I told the truth. Robin got on a zoom call with directors and said we are not a scholarship program we are a pageant with here part of the prize package is scholarship money. Robin said it as soon as she took over to the Ed’s on a zoom call. If you don’t like this program anymore LEAVE -- None, 15:41:56 07/24/24 Wed (NoHost/172.58.244.20) I can't even read that word salad of conjecture but no matter, bc my point doesn't have anything to do with your nonsense. btw, nothing in my post says anything about Democrats or Republicans. I was making fun of your statement, "But if you call me an elitist, then you must be a socialist!" bc you don't know what those words mean. The antonym of an elitist IS NOT A SOCIALIST-a society of governmental ownership & administration of the means of production & distribution of goods, BUT DEMOCRATIC, humble, & unpretentious, the opposite of arrogant, snobbish, & pretentious. (NT) -- Saying your attitude is elitist isn't name calling, it's calling you out., 18:20:57 07/25/24 Thu (static-198-54-135-59.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.59) Scholarship is and always has been a prize, not a criterion. (NT) -- No name, 22:08:27 07/24/24 Wed (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) You may want to look that up they advertise themselves as a scholarship opportunity. They have also drilled this into the ladies for the past few years. (NT) -- No name, 18:28:01 07/26/24 Fri (c-76-134-28-45.hsd1.ar.comcast.net/76.134.28.45) Didn't Kaye Lani win the Miss America title wearing a wedding dress she bought at a thrift store? (NT) -- No name, 13:00:42 07/24/24 Wed (syn-071-073-192-044.res.spectrum.com/71.73.192.44) Kaye Lani wore a bridal dress that was donated by a local dress shop (so actually she paid nothing for it). (NT) -- No name, 18:29:23 07/24/24 Wed (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123) There's a difference between getting a dress in a thrift store and being required to buy a certain dress from a certain store. (NT) -- No name, 14:48:25 07/26/24 Fri (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) This is just another rumor. We as directors have not been told this. We were told Rebel would be adding additional colors nothing about a required change (NT) -- No name, 21:08:31 07/23/24 Tue (mobile-166-196-082-062.mycingular.net/166.196.82.62) Local Ed’s were told on a zoom call that the Miss America contestants would not be wearing red for nationals this year and that states would be changing as well. But that for this cycle of locals they will continue wearing red so local EDs didn’t need to worry about it. -- Na, 15:44:23 07/24/24 Wed (NoHost/172.58.244.20) I remember this being mentioned on a Zoom call also. (NT) -- No name, 19:56:00 07/24/24 Wed (136.sub-174-197-66.myvzw.com/174.197.66.136) Why can't Miss America just go back to swimsuits? Problem solved. (NT) -- No name, 21:58:38 07/23/24 Tue (NoHost/172.77.51.80) you all think the rebel is not expensive. It's not. But when you add registration fee, AHA fee, entry Fee, ad pages, opening number dresses , hotel fee for state, meal fee for state, etc it all adds up to a lot... (NT) -- The contestants get sucked for money everywhere they turn, 20:00:48 07/24/24 Wed (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124) Don't forget, the girls raise their own scholarships as well. (NT) -- No name, 18:23:14 07/25/24 Thu (static-198-54-135-59.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.59) What does this mean? Does each girl raise her own scholarship? I don't understand, thank you. (NT) -- No name, 17:31:14 07/26/24 Fri (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123)

Subject: Miss USA and Miss Teen USA 2024 schedule

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Date Posted: 17:45:03 07/26/24 Fri
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In honoring of the 2024 Summer Olympics, which is now underway. Next week will be another busy week for Miss USA pageantry.

July 31 - Miss Teen USA Preliminaries and Miss Teen USA Costume Competition
August 1 - Miss Teen USA Final
August 2 - Day-off
August 3 - Miss USA Preliminaries
August 4 - Miss USA Final

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Subject: The parade of nations
Author: Fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:17:13 07/26/24 Fri (syn-137-027-094-098.biz.spectrum.com/137.27.94.98) While the world awaits and will enjoy the parade of nations from the 2024 Summer Olympics from Paris, France, tonight (airing on NBC), you can see the parade of nations in this video from the 1982 Miss Universe pageant live from Lima, Peru. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUu4xgYUqzU http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Universe_1982 It was 40 years ago tonight, on July 26, 1982, a young woman from Canada was named Miss Universe. And most of the media was focused on the second runner-up (Miss Italy) complaints about first runner-up (Miss Gaum) not deserving to be in the top five. Any remember that? Happy 40th year anniversary to all who enjoyed this 1982 pageant. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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haha No I don't know about the media's focus on Miss Italy's complaints about Miss Guam. Pls explain, thank you. (NT) -- No name, 17:28:18 07/26/24 Fri (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123)

Subject: Speed painting - sketching

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additions, corrections please
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Date Posted: 17:25:47 07/26/24 Fri
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41 – WI – Betty Miller – caricature of Pres. Roosevelt
46 – Louisville – Patricia Fenton – sketching
47 – AR – Pamela Camp – sketching of Lenora Slaughter
47 – Philadelphia – Kay McClane – Frank Sinatra
52 – NV – Bonnie Wilson – 8 foot high sketching of Miss Liberty + two 6 foot charcoal sketching
53 – NE – Diana Hann – fashion sketching
54 – VA – Julia Bruening – chalk sketching of Statue of Liberty
55 – NY – Diane Deutsch – fashion sketching
58 – MD – Mary Roberta Page – chalk sketching
62 – VA – Patricia Gaulding – caricature sketching of college girls
77 – KY – Karen Gordon – chalk sketching of Mark Twain
18 – DE - Joanna Wicks – “Confident”
19 – KS – Annika Wooton – Ruth Bader Ginsburg
21 – VT – Danielle Morse – Johnny Cash to “Ring of Fire”
24 – MI – Maya Schuhknecht – Michael Jackson to “Beat It”
Pending:
25 – PR – Wilma Victoria Richiez – Antonia Novello

These were “live on stage” sketching painting.

There were more art paintings & sketch displays by other contestants, mainly in the 1940’s, 1950’s and 1960’ - that were not "live on stage" painting.

correction and additions please. thank you

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Subject: BEST MOMENT OF THE TRIAL
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:03:57 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/107.115.163.7) Ryan Brown: I assume that the Miss America Organization had Robin do a financial disclosure check. Of course anyone who knows what they are doing would do a financial disclosure when they are selling something with $4.1 million debt. Shantel: We did not do a financial disclosure check on Robin Fleming. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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They did not obligate her to pay the debts. Read the agreement. (NT) -- No name, 16:09:15 07/18/24 Thu (c-73-74-207-142.hsd1.il.comcast.net/73.74.207.142) Ummm, yes it does. Of course you can negotiate them lower or try to get them waived, but she is responsible for them. (NT) -- No name, 16:17:04 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/107.115.163.7) Nope. Not what it says. If you draft an obligation to pay debts it is very clear. (NT) -- No name, 16:23:57 07/18/24 Thu (c-73-74-207-142.hsd1.il.comcast.net/73.74.207.142) So are you saying all the debts just magically disappear? (NT) -- No name, 16:30:36 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/107.115.163.7) Ryan was supposedly on the MAO Board at the time, right? At least that was what I was led to believe. There was another qualified buyer at the time, who flew all the EDs down to Dallas to discuss what his leadership approach was. We thought that plan was going forward until all the EDs met in CT and Ryan acted as if the state directors were a room of bafoons who couldn't agree on anything, so we had to trust HIM to work in our best interest. (NT) -- No name, 16:25:00 07/18/24 Thu (berlin01.tor-exit.artikel10.org/185.220.101.7) He was supposedly the treasurer. -- No name, 16:36:01 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/209.198.16.98) Barbara Moore was the Treasurer. Someone should ask her about this. (NT) -- -, 14:01:11 07/22/24 Mon (NoHost/192.101.67.27) Didn't Barbara resign along with Sam and the rest of his board? (NT) -- No name, 23:19:53 07/25/24 Thu (NoHost/172.59.228.160) If my memory serves me correctly, that guy was a friend of Shantel's and again he was probably not vetted properly. Didn't they finally admit that he never actually wrote the check to pay for the Dallas trip? Oh wait!! Yes they did!! How do I know? Because I just listened to a recording of Ryan admitting that at the State ED meeting. AND MAO paid C-Suite Network $6k. Yeah, he did take the directors for a bunch of morons. This was the meeting where Shantel refused to show up - but one of the directors had walked out of the room and seen her. Suffice it to say, Ryan was NOT working in the states' best interests. That was 12/14/2022. Ryan talks about the finances of Jeffrey Hazlett and how he "hopes" the sale goes through. But what a load of crap. They were already talking to Robin at that point. I haven't finished listening to the whole thing, but Ryan was not and is not looking out for the states. (NT) -- No name, 15:54:35 07/23/24 Tue (NoHost/139.71.144.3) Can someone explain to me, or ask Shantel and Ryan, why the debts MAO owed MAF and the scholarships they had already awarded but couldn't pay, were not included in the debt transfer? (NT) -- No name, 14:38:57 07/22/24 Mon (NoHost/87.129.18.148) THIS. Shantel Krebs is responsible for NOT including the debt. Shantel was the one that screwed the girls out of their scholarships, while selling out the MAO at the same time. She's an utter cluster-phuq. (NT) -- This is what you get for choosing Bd Members who rubber-stamp whatever stupid idea leadership wants, 12:21:39 07/23/24 Tue (unn-185-156-46-154.datapacket.com/185.156.46.154) I found it very interesting, click in... -- Pageant lover, 03:20:44 07/26/24 Fri (ec2-3-80-254-56.compute-1.amazonaws.com/3.80.254.56) I don't disagree with your assessment of what should have been done prior to or immediately following the sale. However, the premise that states should pay the girls is off base. Where would the states magically find that money? Yes, some larger states could probably do it, but that means that funds that could've gone to other contestants would be going to grls who are owed money earned at MISS AMERICA. Plus, there are some smaller states that could not come up with those funds even if they wanted to. (NT) -- No name, 12:44:52 07/26/24 Fri (NoHost/139.71.144.9) States should not have to pay based off of someone else’s neglect and disorganization. MAO should have been very upfront and clear about the fact that the money was not there that year for scholarships and let the contestants know that there would be none given at the national level. Yes this would have been awful and caused an upset however at least they wouldn’t have been expecting money that they would ultimately not get as promised. Also the spotfund funds? I thought they were pretty much raising their own scholarships through that and people’s choice? Where is that money? (NT) -- No name, 16:26:05 07/26/24 Fri (NoHost/172.56.67.140)

Subject: Has anyone been following the Miss Kansas story
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:06:20 07/23/24 Tue (syn-035-150-243-200.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.200) Apparently her domestic abuser was in the audience at the Miss Kansas finals when she won-and she called him OUT-but didn't mention his name. To me that is a STALKING and a security issue and why was he allowed to be in the audience in the first place? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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What should have been done to prevent her abuser from attending the pageant? (NT) -- No name, 01:56:08 07/23/24 Tue (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) Tio many unknown questions on our part to have an opinion. They, at least where I live, are serious about the ladies saftey. However, they cannot act unless they know. Did she report the person? Did she show a picture? Restraining order in her part? Even with all of these things in place they probably couldn't stop him from attending, just from getting anywhere close to her. Most places don't, and won't due to the possibility of a lawsuit, attempt to keep someone out unless there is a court order that they are in violation of. (NT) -- No name, 11:34:11 07/23/24 Tue (c-76-134-28-45.hsd1.ar.comcast.net/76.134.28.45) Any business in America can refuse service for any reason (other than a discriminatory one- like color, religion, origin). Go on YT and see a million videos of business owners, then cops, trespassing people. (NT) -- No name, 11:49:18 07/23/24 Tue (unn-185-156-46-154.datapacket.com/185.156.46.154) I believe her so please don't twist what I'm going to say as it us just an example of why. Again, there are too many unknown things to us. Does she have a restraining order? Even with one they are for X amount of ft. so it would not cover a large venue if said person sat in the back. Let's say she doesn't have a restraining order then there is nothing to stop him from entering. (Here is where you refer back to my opening statement) What if she made it up? Kicking someone out on something that could be false could set them up to be sued. Yes a business can refuse service, however that is a little different than a large venue with hundreds/thousands of people. You we be shocked if you knew how many registered SO, peds, and other trash surround you every day. When you go to the movies you could be sitting in front of the biggest piece of trash in the world. I may not agree with him being there but unfortunately they have rights too and will sue when they are infringed. (NT) -- No name, 10:55:41 07/24/24 Wed (c-76-134-28-45.hsd1.ar.comcast.net/76.134.28.45) You are complicating things. If a stranger came on to your property & started swimming in your pool, you can kick them out, right? For no other reason than it's your private property and you have not legally authorized them to enter your property. Businesses- large, small, massive, tiny- can legally trespass anyone, for ANY reason, PERIOD. No reason has to be given. If they do give a reason, even if it's a lie, the business will not be under any liability bc> a business can legally trespass anyone for any reason. (NT) -- other than a discriminatory one- race, religion, national origin, gender, age, sexual prefernce etc, 14:53:18 07/24/24 Wed* (static-198-54-135-91.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.91) cont- so if a girl informed me she has a stalker who is in the audience, I would ask the on-site police to (investigate) and trespass them. (NT) -- On the back of every ticket it states as a condition to entry, they can remove you for any reason, 15:03:42 07/24/24 Wed (static-198-54-135-91.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.91) Who knows if they’d even do anything with the restraining order. That girl in PA had one and the org still didn’t do anything to the perpetrator and the victim dropped out because she felt unsafe. (NT) -- No name, 08:29:45 07/25/24 Thu (NoHost/209.131.245.66) ....ah...um...um....excuse me....why do you use the words "him" and "his" and "he" (the trifecta of pronouns) in your posting? When looking at the stories on this Alexis Smith makes no mention of gender. But this story was on Inside Edition last week Thursday, so not sure why media is on this yesterday and today, like this CNN linked story....but it may end-up being a woman who abused Alexis, at an age she did not say either. -- http://www.cnn.com/2024/07/22/us/miss-kansas-abuser-domestic-violence-cec/index.html, 16:08:36 07/24/24 Wed (syn-071-013-135-158.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.135.158) Listen to the Good Morning America piece. She definitely says HE. So, no it is not a woman so don’t even try to go there! (NT) -- No name, 22:06:19 07/24/24 Wed (syn-070-113-128-069.res.spectrum.com/70.113.128.69) Well all we had to go on was what Alexis said on the Miss Kansas stage---during Question-and-Answer what was shown all over media...she did not provide a hint of gender at all. Ok, so its a male...perhaps instead of eyeing a dad, brother, or boyfriend (exboyfriend at the pageant) it may -- be a male local or regional pageant director or someone not affiliated with pageants?, 19:15:00 07/25/24 Thu (syn-071-013-135-158.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.135.158) Maybe you should just stop commenting. (NT) -- No name, 23:17:09 07/25/24 Thu (syn-070-113-128-069.res.spectrum.com/70.113.128.69) Why? (NT) -- No name, 23:18:56 07/25/24 Thu (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) Well this poster seems to overly obsessed with the sex of the abuser - FEMALE? MALE? It's really nobody's businenss if you ask me (NT) -- No name, 15:51:20 07/26/24 Fri (syn-070-113-128-069.res.spectrum.com/70.113.128.69) hard eye roll (NT) -- No name, 18:28:54 07/25/24 Thu (static-198-54-135-59.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.59)

Subject: Miss Colorado Judges Announced
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:00:33 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/23.249.172.139) Cathy Howell Jim Montgomery Kathleen Pettigrove Sandra Thebaud Jessica Urban Prince [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Is Larry the only former CO volunteer who stayed on? (NT) -- No name, 17:12:48 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/172.56.162.60) Yes (NT) -- No name, 17:32:21 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/107.123.1.103) What's Larry's last name? (NT) -- No name, 20:16:03 07/11/24 Thu (ec2-18-181-218-74.ap-northeast-1.compute.amazonaws.com/18.181.218.74) Is this the hairstylist that's named Larry? Or the other Larry that runs some company? (NT) -- No name, 22:27:23 07/11/24 Thu (NoHost/37.120.143.86) Interesting choices. Have any judged other pageants this year ? (NT) -- No name, 17:22:41 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/107.123.1.46) Is there any background on the panel? Bios? History? (NT) -- No name, 17:27:14 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/146.70.215.245) The post about the judges did not give any bios unfortunately (NT) -- No name, 17:43:28 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/107.123.1.46) Oh my god. Is Jessica the one who in 2021 spoke on stage helping to “MC” with a white see through dress and her nipples out literally the entire time?! What a shining example for our delegates! -- No name, 23:58:54 07/10/24 Wed (c-107-2-183-252.hsd1.co.comcast.net/107.2.183.252) No, she isn’t. (NT) -- No name, 00:53:36 07/11/24 Thu (149-76-255-171.fidnet.com/149.76.255.171) Why do you say that? (NT) -- No name, 06:40:10 07/11/24 Thu (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) Jim judged NC. Kathleen is on the board in OK. Cathy is Judges Chair in NE. Looks like a great group (NT) -- No name, 01:01:41 07/11/24 Thu (149-76-255-171.fidnet.com/149.76.255.171) How did Larry manage to do that? (NT) -- No name, 17:41:42 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/216.250.207.89) Because he was in on the fix against the old board. He did very little to begin with - many girls who competed didn't even know who he was - that he was on the board. He stayed because he likes to be close to the crown. (NT) -- No name, 21:28:59 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/50.216.226.210) The old board fixed the pageant? Like for Madison? She is Miss America Are you on drugs or something (NT) -- No name, 02:35:10 07/11/24 Thu (54.sub-174-193-198.myvzw.com/174.193.198.54) No. He was in on the old board being derailed by Robin and new board. The comment had nothing to do with Madison. (NT) -- No name, 11:30:13 07/11/24 Thu (NoHost/50.216.226.210) He’s widely respected and never caused any problems - many girls “didn’t know” him because he wasn’t a source of drama. Very kind and soft spoken when I met him, and the board needs someone with experience (NT) -- No name, 23:35:56 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/146.70.215.245) Larry is the only person keeping the new board from driving Colorado completely into the ground. (NT) -- No name, 02:24:25 07/11/24 Thu (NoHost/107.123.1.46) I thought Larry was the OK Judges Chair. Does he do both states? (NT) -- No name, 07:23:34 07/11/24 Thu (h120.14.162.209.static.ip.windstream.net/209.162.14.120) Does the new CO Board know that Larry is “the only one” keep their pageant going? (NT) -- No name, 20:42:08 07/11/24 Thu (NoHost/50.201.221.2) The new board knows nothing, look at the awful venue they’re at. (NT) -- No name, 20:43:30 07/11/24 Thu (NoHost/107.123.1.135) The new board is awesome! It has been so cool to see the girls flourish and be celebrated. Excited to see this new theater! (NT) -- No name, 21:21:34 07/11/24 Thu (NoHost/172.59.169.136) lol, okay. The theater with no mics. Which board member are you? (NT) -- No name, 21:34:48 07/11/24 Thu (NoHost/107.123.1.135) Is the theater in the room with us? We are talking about the Christian high school auditorium right?? lol -- No name, 02:35:13 07/13/24 Sat (c-107-2-183-252.hsd1.co.comcast.net/107.2.183.252) Larry is nice but he is stuck in a time warp and has very old school thoughts and methods. (NT) -- No name, 13:38:35 07/21/24 Sun (c-76-154-237-175.hsd1.co.comcast.net/76.154.237.175) Robin should name Larry the ED (NT) -- No name, 22:16:42 07/11/24 Thu (NoHost/50.201.221.2) What makes you say that? (NT) -- No name, 22:32:56 07/11/24 Thu (NoHost/37.120.143.86) Is Cathy Howell the mother to former Miss Nebraska Alyssa Howell? If so, super solid judge. (NT) -- No name, 15:15:02 07/12/24 Fri (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) I have known Larry for decades and I love him. Sweet guy! (NT) -- No name, 19:25:40 07/12/24 Fri (pool-108-48-89-61.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.48.89.61) Is Larry the one who reported the former board to Robin? (NT) -- No name, 10:49:36 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/192.68.164.210) I am curious to know if it's a requirement to come from a rich family and be religious to win? I have attended Miss Colorado for the last 3 years as I have a business and was planning on becoming a sponsor. It looks like there's a pattern of rich girls winning the competition regardless of their platform, talent, and gowns etc. Alex the winner, was first time competing, doesn't seem she did anything for her platform, her talent was pretty bad (surprise had the same talent as Savanah Miss Colorado 2022) and she was the winner of people's choice which is normally for girls who aren't sure they will make it to top 10. The question is: How much money they put into people's choice for her to win evening gown and become Miss Colorado? 20K? 35K? Who knows! The other question is: Do you have to be religious and conservative to win a competition? Do you have to be republican? Just curious to know before I step into sponsoring an organization that's shady! (NT) -- No name, 00:47:38 07/22/24 Mon (NoHost/146.70.215.189) Preach -- No name, 02:42:25 07/22/24 Mon (syn-024-236-220-203.res.spectrum.com/24.236.220.203) The previous leadership crowned Monica (no money), Maura (even less money), Savannah (money), and Madison (money - not sure they knew that because she didn't really participate in anything until the actual pageant). Can't speak to this year's winner, but it is quite interesting how involved Randy Pruett was with the judges all week so I can't imagine leadership didn't know. Not to mention the generous donation from her godfather, four separate contributions of $250 from people with the same last name as the winner, and big money coming in for her people's choice win. Obviously current leadership has made it clear that they are not interested in spending their own money (asking girls to pay for mics is about as cheap as you can get), and asking people for gas money for the titleholder gives you some idea of their focus on money (or that of a girl's parents). (NT) -- No name, 12:19:03 07/22/24 Mon (NoHost/139.71.144.9) It's crazy that a for-profit pageant is begging for gas cards for their titleholder. (NT) -- No name, 11:58:17 07/23/24 Tue (unn-185-156-46-154.datapacket.com/185.156.46.154) As far as political leanings I don't know that that has ever mattered. Previous leadership had people on both sides of the political spectrum. I think the most important part of your statement is "an organization that's shady", that is a fact no matter where they stand politically. (NT) -- No name, 12:24:09 07/22/24 Mon (NoHost/139.71.144.9) So Miss Colorado cheated to win?? -- No name, 21:55:54 07/22/24 Mon (syn-024-236-220-203.res.spectrum.com/24.236.220.203) I don't think she did. BUT I would venture to say that the current leadership made sure things were in place to make sure it happened. They're shady AF (NT) -- No name, 23:40:09 07/22/24 Mon (184-96-176-120.hlrn.qwest.net/184.96.176.120) That is crazy! What’s her relationship with Larry the guy on Miss Colorado board and the other guy Gary? Why Gary and Larry were on vacation a few days before the competition? What’s Alex’s relationship with Gary who was a judge on Miss Colorado last year? Alex is a very sweet girl but she is definitely not deserving the title of Miss Colorado!!! No one had her on their radar at all! (NT) -- No name, 10:36:16 07/24/24 Wed (unn-89-187-173-165.cdn77.com/89.187.173.165) So I believe the Larry who was identified as her godfather, is NOT the same Larry that is on the board. And I think you mean Randy - not Gary. But, yes, she has a relationship with Randy (a judge from last year) and she made no secret that he was preparing her for the competition. What REALLY stinks is that Randy was running around with Larry Razal (on the board). Randy was with Larry (who was acting as judges chair) and therefore with the judges pretty much most of the time. He was at meals, in pictures, etc. Now I know Randy has been around a long time and knows lots of people, but it's still completely inappropriate for him to have been around the judges AT ALL. (NT) -- No name, 10:49:35 07/24/24 Wed (NoHost/139.71.144.5) No no! I means Larry Razal and Gary! Not her God father. Larry Razal and Gary were on vacation just a couple days before the competition! Also why Savanah Miss CO 2022 who is also on Miss CO board had a Alex’s face button on her chest?? How can you be supporting a contestant so obvious like this? Funny to know that she sang the same song Yesterday as Savanah’s talent in 2022 (NT) -- No name, 12:54:30 07/24/24 Wed (unn-89-187-173-165.cdn77.com/89.187.173.165) Wait! Who’s Gary? Do you mean Randy? Larry and Randy! Not Gary! Randy Pruett was a judge at Miss Colorado last year. Larry Razal who is on the board of Miss Colorado has some sort of a relationship with Randy Pruett who was a judge at Miss CO! https://www.facebook.com/share/p/zdNQz6Li5Y8g3GgG/?mibextid=QwDbR1 ! Why would Randy comment on Alex’s photos and she would respond could’t have done it without you? Why those comments are gone from her socials are gone? And you tell me this is not a shady organization? (NT) -- No name, 13:10:53 07/24/24 Wed (NoHost/217.148.140.210) Randy is Shady!!! (NT) -- No name, 13:45:36 07/24/24 Wed (NoHost/12.233.34.186) At some point people were saying Larry (Razal) was her godfather. They were mistaken. I think the Larry they might have been talking about was this Larry Gayeski guy (who has never contributed before this year) who was a "Ruby" donor of $5,000-$9,999. Don't know if he's somehow part of that whole thing. (NT) -- No name, 14:24:53 07/24/24 Wed (NoHost/139.71.144.5) Gary from the previous board is NOT on this current board - he had NO interest in staying on with this group of clowns. For SO MANY reasons Savannah shouldn't be anywhere near being on the board - including for the ones you mentioned, but also because it is SO WRONG to have someone on a board while there are still contestants competing that she competed with. She was not well liked when she competed and she made no secret that she didn't like some of her fellow contestants. So now that she is on the board involved in making decisions (like the behind closed doors line-up placement) it's beyond questionable. Also pretty telling how much she's done on the board (like when she was Miss Colorado). They listed out all the different things people helped with and she's only listed under ticket sales. Sounds like she is putting forth SO much effort. (NT) -- No name, 14:12:33 07/24/24 Wed (NoHost/139.71.144.5) WOW! This whole drama about Miss Colorado this year has been crazy. What a shame! Old and new board seems to be on the same boat. To answer the question about becoming a sponsor, I would never choose to sponsor Miss Colorado Opportunity. I would donate my money to reputable non-profit. (NT) -- No name, 15:15:49 07/24/24 Wed (NoHost/208.127.105.197) I don't think there is a lot of drama, I think the "drama" is one or two very bitter people trying to discredit a group doing a great job. I am guessing the girl the former board favored was not the winner this year. (NT) -- No name, 10:58:06 07/26/24 Fri (ip98-168-202-246.om.om.cox.net/98.168.202.246)

Subject: New Lawsuit?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:40:20 07/23/24 Tue (NoHost/107.115.163.28) There are several long time Miss America volunteers, who wish to remain anonymous at this time, that are in the process of exploring possible legal options to render the sale of Miss America back in December 2022 as illegitimate. They are in preliminary talks with at least one attorney in Delaware (where the sale happened) to see if there is a case. Here are the reasons for the possible legal challenge: 1. The sale paperwork indicates that the purchase price is $100 plus a “Buyer Reserve of Four Million, One Hundred Sixty Thousand, Seven Hundred and Thirty Six.” Shantel Krebs openly admitted under oath that she did not do a Financial Disclosure on Robin Fleming to see if she actually had the Buyer’s Reserve needed for the purchase. An email from Robin submitted into evidence admits she did not even have assets totaling 250K, much less 4 million. 2. Ryan stated under oath that as the Treasurer of the selling organization, he did not see any Financial Disclosure documents for the buyer. 3. No one really knows who actually owns the purchasing entities (Miss America competition and Miss America IP);therefore ,the Board did not actually know who they were selling the organization to. 4. Shantel stated under oath (lying, of course) that Miss America wasn’t being sold because it was in financial ruins. Everyone else on the Board knows this isn’t the truth. 5. While the Board did not know that Glenn Straub was a possible owner of Miss America, Robin did and she hid it from the Board during the purchase process. Of course the Organization would have never sold it to her if they know it potentially was co-owned by a man with a history of being accused of allegedly mistreating women. The purpose of the potential legal filing would be to have a judge review the sale, potentially ruling the sale illegitimate and therefore opening it up to either other buyers or other 501c3s to run it as a non-profit again. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Wouldn't that be interesting...I would also propose that decisions Robin has made regarding partnerships, sponsorships, changes to scoring percentages, state leadership firings/dismissals, the list goes on...be reviewed as well if that were to happen. (NT) -- No name, 18:18:36 07/23/24 Tue (NoHost/139.71.144.3) I don’t understand how anyone not involved in the sale could have any case against anyone. That is what the trial is about. Why would volunteers believe they have any legal interest in this sale? The volunteers didn’t own it and it was not sold to them. What is it you want to go back too?! 2.0.? An organization that had no money to pay scholarships? Or are we going back to Sam Haskell where girls were bullied? Which of these sounds appealing? You all say you want a business person to run this organization and now someone makes it a for profit and secures sponsors who pay money. Just like in other businesses. And Sam Haskell got kickbacks from CMN. If you don’t make money you have none to give. And when we switched to 2.0 no one wanted to even watch it it was so boring. -- None, 18:38:42 07/23/24 Tue (NoHost/172.58.244.20) Easily if their state volunteers or contestants who didn’t get their scholarship. If your a third-party beneficiary or owed from the organization and felt the sell 1) negatively impacted ability to pay debts or 2)you feel the sale impairs your interest (NT) -- No name, 19:10:14 07/23/24 Tue (NoHost/104.28.76.233) #1 A non-profit is in the public trust, volunteers have given to the non-profit, therefore the public has a legal interest in the sale of a non-profit. #2 It's a straw man to suggest we want to 'go back' to anyone, and false choice to say it's either 2.0 or Sam. #3 Distinction- We all wanted a COMPETENT business person to run this organization. It's NOT Robin or bust!! (NT) -- No name, 15:17:06 07/24/24 Wed (static-198-54-135-91.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.91) Any reputable lawyer would tell them that they'll never be able to establish standing to bring such a lawsuit because, as volunteers, the transaction caused them no financial harm or damage. Add to that legal technicality the fact that not only did none of them try to stop the sale, but they all continued to volunteer during and now after the sale, which will erase every iota of their credibility. (NT) -- No name, 23:45:19 07/23/24 Tue (NoHost/172.59.228.160) How did the MAO go from a non-profit to a for profit? THAT's where volunteers/ the public have a legal interest, bc non-profits are a public trust. That volunteers have stayed involved doesn't have one IOTA of effect or negate that public interest. (NT) -- 'not only did none of them'... dear God these women are supposed to be college educated!, 15:23:27 07/24/24 Wed (static-198-54-135-91.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.91) The organization was bankrupt, and the BOD tried everything it could to raise funds but failed to even come close. Rather than further damage the brand, the BOD voted to dissolve the non-profit and sell its only remaining asset: the name. At no time in the history of the MAO has the BOD ever needed or, dare I say, even wanted the approval of its volunteers before making decisions. The volunteers have NO standing - they never did! (NT) -- No name, 23:40:44 07/25/24 Thu (NoHost/172.59.228.160) PS: No, they are not supposed to be educated; they are only expected to want to be educated. Also, if you honestly believe credibility won't be negated by continuing to be actively involved with an organization you are claiming is corrupt, then one of us really is stupid, and I'm confident it is not me. (NT) -- No name, 00:12:59 07/26/24 Fri (NoHost/172.59.228.160) What they may be able to do is to have a conversation with the State Attorney General where the transaction took place. They can be a whistleblower if the transactions was illegal. (NT) -- They can also write to the judge to make them aware of their concerns., 08:37:56 07/24/24 Wed (NoHost/107.116.79.24) YES, a petition to the Attorney General asking for an investigation of fraud regarding the sale would be entirely appropriate. Still, it would lack credibility and fail to garner attention if done anonymously. We had no problem signing our names when we were trying to (deservingly so) boot Sam & Gretchen to the curb, and that same forthright integrity will be needed here as well. (NT) -- No name, 13:22:42 07/24/24 Wed (NoHost/172.59.228.160)

Subject: Anyone have any idea when we can expect to hear who will be the head of MAO until the hearing for ownership? Thought we’d hear by now.
Author: None [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:45:57 07/24/24 Wed (NoHost/172.58.244.20) None [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Actually, what has been going on in recent days was a show-cause hearing to help the judge decide who/what would be in the best interest of the business while Glenn and Robin go into already mandated mediation. So, no matter what this decision is, it will only be temporary until the mediator's report is submitted to the court. If either or both parties are hostile and/or uncooperative toward the mediating process, then the case will proceed to trial, which may, and most likely will, drag on for years. (NT) -- No name, 23:13:13 07/25/24 Thu (NoHost/172.59.228.160)

Subject: FYI Vanessa Williams is going to be the cover story in People magazine on newsstands tomorrow. Click in for an article from Yahoo Entertainment.
Author: Anon [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:21:21 07/25/24 Thu (54.sub-174-242-70.myvzw.com/174.242.70.54) https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/vanessa-williams-quietly-divorced-jim-140000282.html [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Beautiful cover shot. Looks no more than 35. Thought she was a great winner, but knowingly broke the rules to compete. She has done quite well for herself, nonetheless. And of course, she's still gorgeous. (NT) -- No name, 11:32:24 07/25/24 Thu (syn-065-188-072-042.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.42) It is not a Penthouse type photo display I hope.......she dealt with a magazine that did that to her exactly 40 years ago this week!!! -- Can anyone cut-paste the article to post here if some can not get a People magazine., 16:14:47 07/25/24 Thu (syn-071-013-135-158.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.135.158) Why? Why would you say this? Why would you bring this ugliness up like it's hot news or fun times? (NT) -- Read the Room!, 17:13:54 07/25/24 Thu (static-198-54-135-123.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.123) Just click on the link and it takes you directly to the article. (NT) -- No name, 18:17:28 07/25/24 Thu (syn-065-188-072-042.wifi.spectrum.com/65.188.72.42) I was not aware that she divorced. I remember reading she had remarried back in 2015. Interesting that she has now been divorced three times. Some people just aren't meant to be married long term. And that's o.k. too. (NT) -- No name, 20:32:43 07/25/24 Thu (NoHost/148.59.75.51)

Subject: Miss America Talents: Anyone know what songs the following twelve Miss America 2025 contestants performed to? Arizona’s dance Idaho’s dance Illinois’ dance Iowa’s vocal Maryland’s vocal Missouri’s ballet Montana’s piano Nevada’s ballet New Jersey’s dance New Mexico’s ballet folklorico Oregon’s Latin jazz dance Pennsylvania’s baton twirl
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:26:20 07/22/24 Mon (216-15-16-224.s2270.c3-0.161-cbr1.lnh-161.md.cable.rcncustomer.com/216.15.16.224) Arizona’s dance Idaho’s dance Illinois’ dance Iowa’s vocal Maryland’s vocal Missouri’s ballet Montana’s piano Nevada’s ballet New Jersey’s dance New Mexico’s ballet folklorico Oregon’s Latin jazz dance Pennsylvania’s baton twirl [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I forgot Puerto Rico and Utah! (NT) -- No name, 13:35:33 07/22/24 Mon (216-15-16-224.s2270.c3-0.161-cbr1.lnh-161.md.cable.rcncustomer.com/216.15.16.224) Maryland Vocal Don’t Rain on My Parade -- No, 13:47:48 07/22/24 Mon (NoHost/172.58.244.20) Iowa sang Sia’s “Opportunity” (NT) -- No name, 17:32:21 07/24/24 Wed (cbl-dhcp-74-023.machlink.com/69.49.74.23) Just because a contestant won with a particular talent does it mean it must be the exact came for nationals? -- One may have done a piano number then change to a different piano selection. No?, 17:50:26 07/24/24 Wed (syn-071-013-135-158.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.135.158) an average of about 15 change their music/song from state to MA, but very rarely only 1 or 2 change their type of talent (NT) -- No name, 17:58:54 07/24/24 Wed (99-166-174-42.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net/99.166.174.42)

Subject: MAO Class of 2025 Complete
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 01:07:47 07/23/24 Tue (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) Alabama (Abbi Stockard; Age 21; Cystic Fibrosis; Dance) Alaska (Jordan Naylor, Age 26, Heart Health, Ballroom Dance) Arizona (Shailey Ringenbach; Age 20; Share the Love Pet Therapy; Dance) Arkansas (Camille Cathey, Age 22, Volunteerism, Vocalist) California (Kimberly Vernon, Age 27, Arts for All, Jazz Dance) Colorado (Alexandra Lotko; Age 26; It’s Okay Not to be Okay; Vocal) Connecticut (Monica Fenwick; Age 24?; Communication is Key; Flute) Delaware (Nova Gaffney; Age 24; Domestic Violence Awareness; Ballet Dance) Florida (Casana Fink; Age 25; Organ Donation; Lyrical Dance) Georgia (Ludwig Louizaire, Age 26, Education for Every Student, Vocalist) Hawaii (Hayley Cheyney-Kane; Age 26; Preventative Medicine; Vocal / Hula combo) Idaho (Madison Andreason; Age 21; Get Up and Get Out; Dance) Illinois (Breana Bagley, Age 26, Defying Pancreatic and Rare Diseases, Dancer) Indiana (Kaylyn Melham; Age 23; Change Through Theatre; Vocal) Iowa (Abi Batu-Tiako, Age 21, The United Voices, Vocalist) Kansas (Alexis Smith, Age 25, Respect Reclaimed, Ventriloquism) Kentucky (Chapel Tinius, Age 24, Veteran’s Awareness & Appreciation, Fiddle) Louisiana (Olivia Grace George, Age 20, Education is Key, Dance) Maine (Jennie Daley; Age 28; Dress Like an Engineer; HerStory) Maryland (Bridget O’Brien; Age 22?; Boomerang; Vocal) Massachusetts (Kiersten Khoury; Age 23; Check the Chicas; HerStory) Michigan (Jenae Lodewyk, Age 24?, Women in the Workplace, HerStory) Minnesota (Emily Schumacher, Age 24, Heart Health, Tap Dance) Mississippi (Becky Williams, Age 22, Make a Move, Jazz Dance) Missouri (Ashley Berry, Age 20, Media Smart, Ballet Dance) Montana (Kaylee Wolfensberger; Age 20?; Healing Harmonies; Piano) Nebraska (Raechel Warren, Age 28, Passion to Purpose, Roller Skating) Nevada (Karrina Ferris, Age 22?, Inform to Reform, Lyrical / Ballet Dance) New Hampshire (Emily Spencer, Age 23, Inspiring Inclusivity, Lyrical Dance) New Jersey (Elizabeth Mendel, Age 22, IMAGE is Everywhere, Dancer) New Mexico (Emille-Marie Enriquez, Age ?, The Apricot Ribbon Campaign, Ballet Folkloric) New York (Abigail Quammen; Age 24; Literacy; Vocal) North Carolina (Carrie Everett; Age 20; Equity to Build Community; Vocal) North Dakota (Sophia Richards, Age 23, BIOgirls, Vocalist) Ohio (Stephanie Finoti, Age 21, Preparing Young Women for STEM, Ballet Dance) Oklahoma (Lauren Frost, Age 24, Adoption – Oklahoma’s Option, Contemporary Clogging) Oregon (Abigail Hoppe; Age 25; Making Type 1 Diabetes feel like Type None; Latin Jazz Dance) Pennsylvania (Page Weinstein, Age 26, Beauty for All, Baton) Puerto Rico (Wilma Victoria Richiez; Age?; Access Education and Essential Resources; ?) Rhode Island (Ali Hornung, Age 24, Glimmer of Hope, Vocalist) South Carolina (Davis Walsh; Age 23; Guiding Youth with Incarcerated Parents; Vocal) South Dakota (Joelle Simpson, Age 20, Nurturing Nature, Harpist) Tennessee (Carley Vogel; Age 23?; Organ Donation; Vocal) Texas (Annette Addo-Yobo; Age 25?; Autism Awareness; HerStory) Utah (Paris Matthews, Age 26, The Power of Play, Dance) Virginia (Carlehr Swanson; Age 25?; Vocal / Piano combo) Washington (Hermona Girmay; Age 23; SheCan, Supporting Women’s Education; Vocal) Washington D.C. (Katie Ann Powell; Age 26?; Full Confidence Ahead; Harpist) West Virginia (Jennifer Reuther; Age ; Wellness Across West Virginia; Dance) Wisconsin (Mandi Genord; Age 22; Movement Matters; Dance) Wyoming (Baylee Drewry, Age 20, Supporting Girls and Women in Sports, HerStory) Vermont (Meara Seery, Age 24, Green for Good, Vocalist) Please provide any corrections in comments. Thank you. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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The correct title is Miss District of Columbia, not Washington, DC. It should come between Delaware and Florida. (NT) -- No name, 10:14:22 07/23/24 Tue (216-15-16-224.s2270.c3-0.161-cbr1.lnh-161.md.cable.rcncustomer.com/216.15.16.224) How about, thank you for putting this together. we appreciate it (NT) -- No name, 15:05:10 07/23/24 Tue (NoHost/128.163.8.38) It literally says "Please provide any corrections in comments. Thank you." (NT) -- No name, 15:33:41 07/23/24 Tue (ip67-154-149-180.z149-154-67.customer.algx.net/67.154.149.180) You’re very welcome! (NT) -- No name, 23:15:16 07/23/24 Tue (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) Thank you for your kindness!! (NT) -- No name, 23:22:36 07/23/24 Tue (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) If I do a new list, I will correct DC’s title- thank you for the info! I do have the alphabetical order handled though, lol (NT) -- No name, 23:18:22 07/23/24 Tue (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) Puerto Rico - talent is speed painting per another post (NT) -- No name, 23:20:50 07/23/24 Tue (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) And she is 22 yrs old, the first Black contestant from PR to Miss America! (NT) -- No name, 11:56:17 07/24/24 Wed (a172-226-11-88.deploy.static.akamaitechnologies.com/172.226.11.88) Fabulous! Thank you!! (NT) -- No name, 14:04:10 07/24/24 Wed (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184)

Subject: States reaching out to judge over case
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:11:21 07/22/24 Mon (NoHost/172.56.67.140) Can the state directors privately reach out to the judge over the case and plea for Robin’s removal? Would their identities remain confidential? I think this could be helpful in getting Robin officially removed. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Y'all are crazy! That’s totally inappropriate. Legal cases aren’t open to public opinion. Not everyone hates Robin. -- None, 21:36:03 07/22/24 Mon (NoHost/172.58.244.20) Bit it is OK for Ryan to claim that all EDs will leave if Robin is gone? I think with his claim they have a right to say how they really feel. It isn't public opinion it is stating a fact that he lied. (NT) -- No name, 23:55:20 07/22/24 Mon (c-76-134-28-45.hsd1.ar.comcast.net/76.134.28.45) What do you want the judge to do regarding the issue? (NT) -- No name, 00:10:08 07/23/24 Tue (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) But all the court records and documents are online for us to see? But we can join zoom calls of the literal court hearings and the judge knows that we are listening in and it’s perfectly fine? Ok delusional… (NT) -- No name, 01:03:41 07/23/24 Tue (NoHost/172.56.67.140) If state directors don’t like the leadership leave. There is a lot of cleaning house that could happen. -- None, 21:54:32 07/22/24 Mon (NoHost/172.58.244.20) Spoken like Robin or her toadie. (NT) -- No name, 11:41:14 07/23/24 Tue (c-76-134-28-45.hsd1.ar.comcast.net/76.134.28.45) Ryan’s testimony was given in support of Robin’s case. It would be up to Glenn and his counsel to present contrary testimony. So the people to reach out to are Glenn and his attorney if you’re willing to testify under oath and be subject to cross examination. (NT) -- No name, 11:37:19 07/23/24 Tue (mobile-166-196-054-087.mycingular.net/166.196.54.87) This! (NT) -- No name, 11:43:13 07/23/24 Tue (c-76-134-28-45.hsd1.ar.comcast.net/76.134.28.45) Yes, you can write to the judge. Do you not remember why Ashton Kutcher and Mika Kunis apologized over and over online? They wrote to the judge for Danny Masterson. (NT) -- So, you can and in trials, many do. State Ed’s were mentioned so they could clarify., 08:57:49 07/24/24 Wed (NoHost/107.116.79.24) No. What they and many others did for Danny was to submit pre-sentencing character references after he had been found guilty. These cannot be anonymous because they are meant detail how the writer(s) have witnessed specific examples of the defendant contributing to society in meaningful, measurable ways and why they believe these instances should mitigate the sentencing. (NT) -- No name, 13:47:02 07/24/24 Wed (NoHost/172.59.228.160) Also, these letters are NOT sent to the judge. They are requested by and sent to the defendant's attorney who then submits they ones that are deemed appropriatethem to the court. (NT) -- No name, 13:53:13 07/24/24 Wed (NoHost/172.59.228.160)

Subject: Robin's Dictatorship is Destroying Miss America
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:49:05 07/13/24 Sat (04-b.se.mail-scanner.eu/173.239.211.95) I'm fed up with the way Robin is running Miss America into the ground. Her dictatorial approach is forcing everyone to bend to her will and cater to her sponsors. The recent email she sent, targeting several dress sponsors and dictating where contestants can order their dresses, is utterly absurd. Who does she think she is? Contestants should have the freedom to choose their own sponsors and attire without her heavy-handed interference. Robin should be shaking in her boots over the pending lawsuit. Sure, she has some state directors backing her up, but that's only because they're scared of getting fired. It won't be enough to save her. She's nothing but a crook who rigged the 2024 competition and will undoubtedly rig the next one. Anyone who tries to stand up to her or Ryan Brown is immediately blacklisted. It's disgraceful and damaging to the integrity of the Miss America organization. And let's talk about Henris. They're as crooked as they come, lining Robin's pockets while trying to force contestants to use their services. The gift certificates Henris is giving out will just be padded into the prices of their gowns, so it's not really a gift at all—just another way to milk money from the contestants and their families. It's infuriating to see such shady liars at the helm, destroying the legacy of Miss America. We need transparency, fairness, and leadership that genuinely cares about the contestants and the true values of the organization. Robin and her cronies are nothing but a stain on Miss America, and it's time for a change. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Amen Robin has to go . Why do you think she fixed the pageant? (NT) -- No name, 14:38:11 07/13/24 Sat (180.sub-174-193-129.myvzw.com/174.193.129.180) Robin rigged the 2024 Miss America pageant---in whose favor? Just curious as I otherwise agree with your comments. But also in years past, didn't state pageant have their Miss America contestants wear particular clothes for "The Lady in Red" production number of 1989 in which nationals ordered all contestants to bring a long red evening gown and in some years -- states required their state entrants to have other things for the opening number?, 15:14:09 07/13/24 Sat (syn-071-013-135-158.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.135.158) All the red gowns were provided to each state for free. No one had to buy anything. (NT) -- No name, 16:01:31 07/13/24 Sat (70.sub-174-192-129.myvzw.com/174.192.129.70) All the red gowns were provided to each state for free. No one had to buy anything. -- No name, 18:50:49 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/45.92.229.241) All the red gowns were provided to each state for free. No one had to buy anything. (NT) -- No name, 18:53:22 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/45.130.83.173) ..........Lets not only worry about the red gowns that person mentioned above........how was the 2024 Miss America pageant rigged (NT) -- and in favor or against which contestant or contestants back in January?, 20:34:04 07/13/24 Sat (syn-047-225-246-099.biz.spectrum.com/47.225.246.99) Let's put it this way, ask any girls in the Class of 2024, which 7 to 8 contestants were routinely pulled out of rehearsal to go out and speak to the press over and over again. Your Miss America was one and everyone of these 7 or 8 contestants made the Top 10 (NT) -- No name, 18:25:42 07/14/24 Sun (108-239-242-250.lightspeed.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net/108.239.242.250) Which contestants? (NT) -- No name, 19:04:40 07/14/24 Sun (c-73-16-153-40.hsd1.ma.comcast.net/73.16.153.40) That’s not entirely true. Miss OK was pulled several times and did not make the finals, I believe TN as well. (NT) -- No name, 17:48:52 07/15/24 Mon (syn-024-163-059-002.res.spectrum.com/24.163.59.2) I feel like this happens every year. Even back in the day, there were always 7-8 State Delegates who were naturally better on camera or better public speakers. The producer usually spots them from their initial B-Roll sessions, and they get more prominent "ai-time". Many of these young women also happen to have excellent interviews and often become semi-finalists, but it's not a guarantee. Its an indication of "it" factor, IMO and "it" factor can not be taught. (NT) -- No name, 11:31:02 07/16/24 Tue (this-is-a-tor-node---9.artikel5ev.de/94.16.121.91) Every Miss and Teen contestant was told they HAD to wear RED to the gala. They were given gowns to wear in the fashion show, but it was a wear-your-own-gown to the event. (NT) -- No name, 12:21:19 07/15/24 Mon (denkena-consulting.com/94.16.116.86) What are you even talking about??? Nobody is requiring contestants to buy their gowns a certain place. Yes, Henris is giving a discount, big deal! Many states have gown sponsors who do much more. Stop with the BS just because you don't like someone. (NT) -- No name, 19:12:25 07/13/24 Sat (104-179-20-249.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net/104.179.20.249) An email was sent from Ryan to the states yesterday. They will be REQUIRED to use Henri's unless they have an in state gown sponsor. Check your facts. (NT) -- No name, 20:14:39 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/208.191.44.112) Who does she think she is? She thinks she's the sole OWNER of the organization that is now being run as a for-profit business. All volunteers who can't grasp that the rules have changed & that throwing temper tantrums will never change them back should QUIT! Pick up your toys, go home, and let her try to find new playmates (NT) -- No name, 19:13:25 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/172.59.72.38) The Miss America Pageant was destroyed LONG before Robin took over. Gretchin took care of that! (NT) -- No name, 19:36:53 07/13/24 Sat (136-32-197-127.googlefiber.net/136.32.197.127) It's highly suspicious that in the first year Miss America teams up with the USO tour, a military member ends up being crowned. She also wore a red gown in the same year the "Go Red" campaign was established and was adorned with a red cape upon her win. Robin, a staunch Trump supporter, crowns an Air Force member who doesnft even fly planes YET, and then the contestant's photos are retweeted by the Trump family. Additionally, Robin creates the HERSTory program and coincidentally crowns a girl who performs a HERSTory. Madison Marsh's education and salary are paid by the Air Force, meaning Robin doesn't have to spend a dime—a convenient setup given the MAO's financial struggles. Madison Marsh might be very qualified and impressive, and maybe she would've won even if it wasn't rigged, BUT IT WAS. Robin also hand-picked the judges who happen to be her personal friends (also Trumpers)!The blatant corruption can't be ignored. This whole situation reeks of favoritism and manipulation. (NT) -- No name, 20:09:48 07/13/24 Sat (mta111d8.r.grouponmail.fr/173.239.211.82) If Robin was not a Trump supporter would you think the same thing? (NT) -- No name, 02:29:52 07/14/24 Sun (182.sub-174-193-129.myvzw.com/174.193.129.182) Yes. (NT) -- No name, 07:52:01 07/17/24 Wed (static-198-54-135-123.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.123) Let me guess - you hate Trump and somehow, you are convinced he had something to do with your suspicions about a "rigged" Miss America pageant! God help us all!!! (NT) -- No name, 14:29:41 07/14/24 Sun (NoHost/50.86.219.105) No not at all I actually like Trump. It does seem that everyone has to love the left to place (NT) -- No name, 01:49:55 07/15/24 Mon (82.sub-174-193-133.myvzw.com/174.193.133.82) The distorted right's belief that everyone on the left hates Trump for no reason other than to hate is hilarious to me. (NT) -- Everything's projection with them- haters hate., 07:57:09 07/17/24 Wed (static-198-54-135-123.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.123) Are you serious? So many state pageants manipulate the results. Is this something new in pageantry? Not that it’s right, but it sure isn’t exclusive to the national pageant. -- None, 11:11:11 07/22/24 Mon (NoHost/172.58.244.20) Please post the contents of the Henri’s email. (NT) -- No name, 15:37:33 07/14/24 Sun (NoHost/64.53.17.166) She's nothing but a crook who rigged the 2024 (Miss America) competition--in what way? (NT) -- KC, 17:16:25 07/14/24 Sun (NoHost/12.177.13.34) And yet the state pageants just follow and say YES! I have no pity on them. I applaud Allison Dimarcus for TRYING to stop this mess LONG AGO. And a handful of states would not join her cause which we can all see where that has lead! (NT) -- No name, 19:28:16 07/14/24 Sun (136-32-197-127.googlefiber.net/136.32.197.127) Oh God just give it up. The volunteer program is a complete joke. (NT) -- No name, 21:35:11 07/14/24 Sun (104-179-20-249.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net/104.179.20.249) How? -- No name, 18:39:01 07/22/24 Mon (c-69-180-201-77.hsd1.tn.comcast.net/69.180.201.77) They weren't speaking of Volunteer. They were speaking of Allison's efforts to bring the EDs together to make a stand against Gretchen's TOXIC practices. (NT) -- so quick to jump on Volunteer..., 12:07:15 07/23/24 Tue (unn-185-156-46-154.datapacket.com/185.156.46.154) Terrible policy. Henry’s will have too much control over which dresses are what price are shared with specific girls. And…the expense to have several people travel to Tim-buck-to Ohio—the contestants don’t buy these online and the smart ones have several trusted board members helping, duh! (NT) -- No name, 20:38:13 07/14/24 Sun (mobile-107-77-207-173.mobile.att.net/107.77.207.173) Dude- Columbus Ohio is one of the easiest places to get to by air or car that isn't a major hub. (NT) -- No name, 08:03:44 07/17/24 Wed (static-198-54-135-123.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.123) You all won't be happy if the Pope owned Miss America. (NT) -- No name, 08:24:14 07/15/24 Mon (syn-071-068-212-048.res.spectrum.com/71.68.212.48) Would the Pope be violating FTC rules by announcing scholarships that were never awarded? (NT) -- No name, 13:33:01 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/104.28.76.238) amen (NT) -- No name, 12:09:07 07/23/24 Tue (ip52.ip-167-114-11.net/167.114.11.52) Was the community service Awards that were promised ever given out? $5,000 to teen and $5,000 to Miss? Last I heard, nothing was said about these two very special awards and the the class was still waiting for an Announcement. Maybe it was an oversight but when you promise and don't deliver People lose their trust in you. (NT) -- Any announcement?, 11:15:55 07/15/24 Mon (ec2-52-35-137-225.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com/52.35.137.225) Robin has walked back on many of her statements. Starting with "I own Miss America now" (NT) -- No name, 16:48:24 07/15/24 Mon (tor-exit-183.relayon.org/185.220.101.183) When and where is Miss America 2025 competition? (NT) -- No name, 13:06:09 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/184.19.99.245) Your guess is as a good as mine. No one knows if there will even have a pageant this year. (NT) -- No name, 16:04:50 07/16/24 Tue (NoHost/161.69.54.14) The only issue we should all be following is Robin’s legal case. What’s the link to watch it online? (NT) -- No name, 16:16:09 07/16/24 Tue (NoHost/38.98.217.147) Can someone post the email from Ryan about states being directed to use Henri’s? (NT) -- No name, 09:10:49 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/207.193.220.102) Rumors are that Henry is paying Robins legal fees and this is how she is repaying them. Could that be true? (NT) -- No name, 23:46:26 07/21/24 Sun (NoHost/12.202.56.227) I believe this too! They have always been crooks! (NT) -- No name, 16:40:47 07/22/24 Mon (NoHost/104.28.32.104) CLICK IN FOR HENRI'S EMAIL -- No name, 17:41:09 07/22/24 Mon (NoHost/139.71.144.9) Speaking of email---what is the email address of this letter which keeps saying Miss American not Miss America. -- And what provoked something like this insane notice?, 18:48:50 07/22/24 Mon (syn-071-013-135-158.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.135.158) My apologies, I think autocorrect was making that change and I didn't catch it here. The email refers to Miss America 2024 correctly - they did NOT refer to it as Miss American 2024. (NT) -- No name, 19:12:00 07/22/24 Mon (NoHost/139.71.144.9) That is what probably happened when copied this email from Ryan. However, what is the email address for Ryan? -- ., 19:18:54 07/22/24 Mon (syn-071-013-135-158.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.135.158) The Henri's email came directly from Ryan@missamerica.org (NT) -- No name, 19:16:52 07/22/24 Mon (NoHost/139.71.144.9) "EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY, States are REQUIRED to use Henri's as their national evening gown and formal wear sponsor for their State delegates going to the national competition." (NT) -- No name, 12:13:47 07/23/24 Tue (unn-185-156-46-154.datapacket.com/185.156.46.154) "..... if they do not have an "in-state" gown shop sponsor." (NT) -- You have to post the whole section in its entirety. Not just the part that emphasizes your point., 15:37:42 07/23/24 Tue (ip67-154-149-180.z149-154-67.customer.algx.net/67.154.149.180) So Florida can still use Regalia? (NT) -- No name, 16:32:32 07/23/24 Tue (NoHost/142.136.0.79) Yes. If they submitted Regalia as their in-state sponsor (NT) -- No name, 23:26:33 07/23/24 Tue (113.sub-174-197-67.myvzw.com/174.197.67.113) In Ryan's Henri's email, he writes "For years, Miss American has had national sponsors with policies that required States to use these sponsors for specific products and services." Can someone please give us examples of these past required sponsors. (NT) -- No name, 19:17:08 07/22/24 Mon (pool-98-113-202-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net/98.113.202.63) This is really awful. There are states that have used out of state sponsors for years and those out of state sponsors have been a saving grace to them. To have to cut those ties will be devastating. Shame on Robin. (NT) -- No name, 21:09:04 07/22/24 Mon (NoHost/172.56.67.140) She has to get creative to pay those legal bills. Henri's gave her money to pay the lawyers and she forces all girls to go there so they can make their money back. (NT) -- No name, 23:50:41 07/23/24 Tue (NoHost/12.202.56.227)

Subject: The lights have bern turned on
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:38:49 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/50.200.174.200) Today, we are learning so much about the woman who has been leading this organization for the past 18 months. None of them good. She doesn’t pay her taxes. She declares she was “prey” of Glenn’s. Has no paperwork to back up any of her claims. Her lawyers have no proof of ownership to present, so are just trying to bring in other issues Glenn has. She has subpoenaed two long time Miss America volunteers to testify that she is an excellent business woman. My heart breaks for them. They know clearly that she has single-handedly dismantled the national scholarship fund. Under Robin’s new rules, their 2023 winners received Zero Dollars at Miss America. They have both seen all the new money that must be raised and turned over to Robin. They have both seen numerous friends of theirs removed or silenced due to our leaders spite. Glenn, if you or your team is reading this, we could all give you a long line of people could testify regarding Robin’s business ability. Starting with the Regalia guys; going to the past two formers; the previous CO board and many others in the USA system, the dress business and probably even Pilllsbury. We will never view Robin the same again. She was looking for that brass ring. And again failed. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Today's hearing really did shed some light! I feel like we have been lied to over and over. I sure hope he does have more credible volunteers or even better directors to testify. However, his team were way more credible to me today even if they are just attorneys. (NT) -- No name, 17:28:15 07/17/24 Wed (ec2-18-118-126-7.us-east-2.compute.amazonaws.com/18.118.126.7) Robin needs to go. The EDs need to stop talking to her. Run your own states and let’s pray the courts can get this settled soon. (NT) -- No name, 12:15:07 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/172.56.220.23) Where did all of the discussion from yesterday go? Moderator...why did everything disappear? (NT) -- No name, 13:06:36 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/148.173.101.242) I have no idea. No consistent amount of any post has been deleted. (NT) -- Moderator, 13:08:54 07/18/24 Thu (vpn.adh.arkansas.gov/170.94.15.253) Did Ryan never think to ask Robin about Glenn? OR wonder why someone who had over 1000 texts with Robin never thought to share that with him. (NT) -- No name, 13:57:15 07/18/24 Thu (ip-185-104-139-73.ptr.icomera.net/185.104.139.73) how does MAO end up with bad leadership Robin and before her Gretchin (NT) -- No name, 19:26:10 07/18/24 Thu (syn-076-082-048-252.res.spectrum.com/76.82.48.252) You forgot Shantel in between (NT) -- No name, 21:27:26 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/134.204.27.246) and Regina H (NT) -- KML, 20:02:02 07/23/24 Tue (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124)

Subject: Miss USA roommate selection
Author: Instagram user pageant_central posted those in his IG what those roommate speculation for Miss USA. [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:55:27 07/23/24 Tue (NoHost/180.190.215.251) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Supposed to be posted: Instagram user pageant_central posted those in his IG what those roommate speculation for Miss USA. -- Click in, 19:02:16 07/23/24 Tue (NoHost/180.190.215.251)

Subject: I've read that Miss Puerto Rico Wilma Victoria Richiez's talent was speed painting. Does anyone know what it was she was painting, and what the musical accompaniment was?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:21:41 07/23/24 Tue (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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She was painting a portrait of Antonia Novello , First Hispanic Female US General Surgeon. While she was painting she talk about her life and accomplishments and how she inspired her to be who she is now! (NT) -- No name, 18:17:01 07/23/24 Tue (NoHost/146.75.222.99)

Subject: Today in history....

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Date Posted: 18:02:48 07/23/24 Tue
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Well, since it seemed it escaped everyone who reads this MAO message board forum for why nothing was posted about it....it was on this day in history on Monday, July 23, 1984 when then-Miss America 1984, Vanessa Lynn Williams had resigned her title (under pressure by Albert Marks, Leonard Horn and the board of directors of the Miss America Organization in Atlantic City, New Jersey) due to an unexpected Penthouse Magazine spread of naked pictures taken of Vanessa, one or two years she became Miss New York 1983.

Vanessa had 72 hours to decide to resign in grace or be dethroned in shame. She decided the former, and she still remains one of the famed and popular former Miss America winners.

http://time.com/3961120/miss-america-scandal-vanessa-williams/

http://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/10021755/vanessa-williams-miss-america-winner/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vanessa_Williams_and_Miss_America

Two weeks ago (July 9th) on ABC's late evening Nightline show and also on Good Morning America, reporter Deborah Roberts conducted an interview with Vanessa who is about to star in new 'The Devil Wears Prada' musical.
http://atlantablackstar.com/2024/07/10/vanessa-williams-unrecognizable-and-thin-appearance-during-gma-interview/

So, Happy 40th anniversary to former Miss New Jersey 1983, Suzette Charles being named Miss America, and reigned until September 15, 1984 when she crowned Miss Utah, Sharlene Wells as her Miss America 1985 successor. Forty years ago and has Vanessa and Suzette ever met in person in the years since?

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Subject: The final state preliminary of the year is tonight: the return of Miss Puerto Rico after 8 years. A list of contestants.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:23:57 07/21/24 Sun (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) MISS: 1. Bayamon--May Diaz 2. Carolina--Nitzalissa Gorman 3. Dorado--(Wilma) Victoria Richiez (Mateo) 4. Humacao--Alexa Rubi Gonzalez de León TEEN: 1. Caguas’ Teen--Anelys Torres 2. Cayey’s Teen--Yetsi Felix 3. San Juan’s Teen--Azahara Rosado 4. Toa Baja’s Teen--Alexandra Enid Santiago [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Is there a way to watch this online? (NT) -- No name, 13:07:07 07/21/24 Sun (c-73-243-218-118.hsd1.co.comcast.net/73.243.218.118) One has dropped out. Only 7 listed on their IG (NT) -- No name, 13:26:48 07/21/24 Sun (syn-172-254-044-186.biz.spectrum.com/172.254.44.186) Why is Miss PR such a big deal for Universe but not for MAO? (NT) -- No name, 16:08:28 07/21/24 Sun (96.sub-174-193-197.myvzw.com/174.193.197.96) Why be miss America when you can miss universe? Latin pageants are very different than Miss America. They haven't participated for decades and other pageants have filled their place. Plus the way the Latin girls walk was considered to be “too sexu” for Mao. Honestly I really think based on the way miss America is that she should go to miss world. They have beauty with a cause and its time to show how good the Mao girls are on an international stage. We can't be the best if we aren't willing to compete against the world. (NT) -- No name, 19:52:13 07/21/24 Sun (pool-173-34-106-25.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/173.34.106.25) I have zero respect for universe since they let anyone compete (NT) -- No name, 20:46:50 07/21/24 Sun (96.sub-174-193-197.myvzw.com/174.193.197.96) I’m glad to read that Puerto Rico will be returning to the Miss America stage. I hope the new titleholder receives the proper training, styling and wardrobe to be competitive. Best wishes to the titleholder and her national committee. (NT) -- No name, 21:03:56 07/21/24 Sun (NoHost/165.225.242.181) She won't have a "national" committee-----but a territorial committee since lovely Puerto Rico is not a state or nation. -- But how odd to have so few entrants for Miss PR MAO yet Miss PR Universe draws 50-plus., 21:15:58 07/21/24 Sun (syn-071-013-145-244.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.145.244) Victoria Richiez has won Miss Puerto Rico. Azahara Rosado has won Puerto Rico's Teen (NT) -- No name, 00:47:38 07/22/24 Mon (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) Whatever happened to the Great Mimi Pabon? The most hyped contestant ever in the history of the MAO? (NT) -- No name, 10:46:22 07/22/24 Mon (139.sub-174-247-2.myvzw.com/174.247.2.139) On the surface, Mimi’s styling and appearance was on point in 2010. Mimi won a preliminary swimsuit award and her evening gown could rival any PR Universe contestant. I would have ranked her high in both categories. Her singing was fine. I think Mimi’s downfall was her interview. Since this was PR’s first time back, I don’t think neither Mimi nor her prep team anticipated the difficulty and intensity of the interview session. (NT) -- No name, 23:49:17 07/22/24 Mon (NoHost/208.127.185.241) I remember her being quite beautiful. But didn't she have some racy modeling photos floating around out there somewhere? Maybe that scared MAO off. They were still suffering from VWilliamitis. It is a condition that causes pageant officials to freeze when there is even a hint of scandal in someone's background. (NT) -- No name, 02:48:17 07/23/24 Tue (91.sub-174-238-99.myvzw.com/174.238.99.91) Those were the days... when people knowing you were engaged would get you blackballed. Now intimidation and death threats in PA gets you 2RU. (NT) -- No name, 11:41:25 07/23/24 Tue (static-198-54-135-59.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.59) Does anyone know what songs either of them picked for their talent? (NT) -- No name, 11:56:33 07/22/24 Mon (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73)

Subject: Reposting Article on the PA Bully Sine It Was Deleted
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:36:16 07/09/24 Tue (NoHost/128.14.202.194) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13572679/victoria-vespico-miss-pennsylvania-stalked-rival-girl-scouts-harvard.html I spoke to Robyn yesterday and she said that anyone who has experienced any bullying in the org, especially in Pennsylvania, should reach out to her personally. Her social media is public so other victims can contact her, and she is keeping all names anonymous unless otherwise agreed to beforehand. My daughter came forward to her back in March and she still hasn’t shared her name, or the names of any other victims. Even the other girl who spoke out in this article still was able to remain anonymous after withdrawing from the organization. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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This is terrible. (NT) -- No name, 11:09:53 07/09/24 Tue (166.sub-174-192-196.myvzw.com/174.192.196.166) I hope some others come forward. There’s so many girls who have experienced bullying at the hands of Victoria and they’re all too scared to speak up! (NT) -- No name, 16:21:39 07/09/24 Tue (NoHost/73.214.30.192) One, who spoke to DailyMail.com on condition of anonymity, has resigned her title in protest saying she cannot be part of an organization that fails to act on such behavior. This former teen pageant titleholder recalled one incident in which Vespico 'hit me as hard as she could in the arm and stood up in the restaurant with her crown on and started screaming at me and calling me all sort of vile names'. And the Miss PA org was aware of this instance back in 2020?!?! SHAME ON YOU MISS PA (NT) -- No name, 08:53:23 07/10/24 Wed (syn-071-067-228-034.biz.spectrum.com/71.67.228.34) Call it what it is… Assault (NT) -- No name, 14:02:15 07/10/24 Wed (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) 100%! I am seeing posts and comments from people who went to high school with Victoria. And all I can say is WOW. She is not a good person. (NT) -- No name, 08:27:26 07/12/24 Fri (pool-108-48-193-216.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.48.193.216) where are you seeing these other posts from her high school peers? (NT) -- No name, 15:09:33 07/12/24 Fri (162-204-108-238.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/162.204.108.238) It’s all over TikTok, Instagram, and Reddit! Especially the TikTok video posted by @yourfinestpardon with over 20k views and The Daily Mail’s TikTok with over 1M views. I also saw comments on the Miss PA social media pages and the local pageant social media pages but those comments keep getting deleted. I have screenshots but I don’t know how to post those here. (NT) -- No name, 19:39:32 07/12/24 Fri (ec2-34-230-38-244.compute-1.amazonaws.com/34.230.38.244) What do you expect to happen by calling out Victoria? (NT) -- No name, 23:17:18 07/12/24 Fri (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) I’m not sure about the others. I’m just kind of in shock and awe. It’s the PA org that needs to be called out for allowing any of this to take place. In my opinion, it never should have gotten to the point where police and a court order needed to be put in place. Like I said, just all around shock. (NT) -- No name, 02:18:21 07/13/24 Sat (139-144-222-157.ip.linodeusercontent.com/139.144.222.157) Frankly, I think it's the Miss PA Organization that's disparaging the MAO brand in this case. Their license should be yanked ASAP and the MAO overall needs to get their pants sued off them for causing the young ladies competing undue stress and putting them in danger (NT) -- No name, 10:51:06 07/13/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Did you know ALL states are required to hold indemnity insurance for these situations, which includes coverage for lawsuit payouts. It would be interesting to know how much coverage they have... (NT) -- IOW- they've got insurance money., 11:22:39 07/23/24 Tue (unn-185-156-46-154.datapacket.com/185.156.46.154) I didn't expect a million views of anything on social media related to MA ever. Miss America dirt rarely, rarely makes it into mainstream media. (NT) -- No name, 07:06:02 07/17/24 Wed (static-198-54-135-123.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.123) I saw a comment on TikTok that said they graduated from Dallas Hish School with Victoria and she would emotionally torture people and blackmail girls specifically targeting anyone who was a minority. (NT) -- No name, 19:44:12 07/12/24 Fri (NoHost/162.120.70.145) Victoria's mom has become a Facebook keyboard warrior, is in complete denial and talking about her lawyers. This mom needs to take a hard look in the mirror on how she raised her bully daughter. Her daughter has never been held accountable abd they think they can get away with anything because they have rich family members. The situation is appalling. (NT) -- No name, 07:51:43 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/98.96.231.133) Where on FB is Mom posting? Is it on the Miss PA page? (NT) -- No name, 10:52:01 07/13/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Her personal page. But anytime someone asks questions she immediately deletes the comment and blocks them. She’s only accepting pity and sympathy at this time. (NT) -- No name, 13:43:27 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/206.171.115.124) Kelly Norton Vespico's post: I Will Not Stay Silent Anymore There is a story going around on social media about my daughter that is absolutely false. The story is filled with lies and terrible accusations. My daughter is being accused of things she did not do and would never do. There is currently an ongoing police investigation into this matter. I’m hopeful the truth will be revealed soon, and the actual perpetrator will be brought to justice. Social media can be a wonderful tool, but it can also be an evil one. People who have never meet my daughter or had a conversation with her have made awful disgusting comments and threats. This story has grown and morphed in so many ways it is difficult to keep track of. That I will leave to the lawyers. Until then, I appreciate all the numerous people who have reached out in support of my daughter. I am very proud of her. This is a difficult time, but she is a strong young woman and she will rise through this on TOP! -- No name, 17:30:28 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/194.5.214.51) So, what is the real story? (NT) -- No name, 17:41:31 07/13/24 Sat (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) The real story is that a judge in DC found Victoria responsible for 15+ instances of terroristic threats and provided Robyn K with a 2 year restraining order. (NT) -- No name, 20:43:42 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/128.14.201.102) The people posing about Victoria are also keyboard warriors... The comments people post are aggressive as well... It goes both ways (NT) -- No name, 17:53:12 07/13/24 Sat (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) I'm sorry, what? I haven't seen any posts threatening to kill Victoria and her family or to burn her house down. It does NOT go both ways. We have this obsession in this country to never single one side out, but according to a JUDGE, this young lady sent death threats to her rival. That is not a "both ways" thing. Not in the least. And saying it is is minimizing extremely pathologic behavior (NT) -- No name, 03:06:54 07/14/24 Sun (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) How has the Miss PA org not yet made a statement or removed this titleholder??? I genuinely don’t understand. That board needs to take a look at themselves in the mirror before they lose everything. This is just so awful. I can’t believe how the Miss America org has responded. I read those articles and watched that video from before. They literally just blame Robyn for speaking up. What happened to supporting the young women of this org? And what happened to the anti-bullying clause in the contract? Especially with a blatant example like this! (NT) -- No name, 19:18:19 07/16/24 Tue (vmi1404265.contaboserver.net/154.12.233.81) Robyn K just posted this on Facebook if anyone knows anyone who’d like to speak out! ————- “ Any young woman who would like to give a statement to the media and remain anonymous please let me know! In Touch Weekly, People Magazine, The Daily Mail, and CBS are looking to do follow ups and are willing to speak to anyone who would like to remain anonymous with their experiences with bullying in the Miss America Org. Pre-written statements are 100% acceptable, as are anonymous interviews. Everyone is working hard to keep the privacy of the victims as confidential as possible!” (NT) -- No name, 19:47:46 07/16/24 Tue (NoHost/45.250.25.175) Just to clarify, the victim in the PA case, Robyn Kass-Gerji is the person seeking other victims. It is NOT the alleged leader fo the MAO Robin Fleming. (NT) -- I don't trust Robin Fleming to tell her ANYTHING., 07:16:01 07/17/24 Wed (static-198-54-135-123.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.123) Victoria's text to Robyn: 'I'm prettier and smarter and nicer and I do more community service than you. Duh You could never be Miss America That crown is mine.": Bushy eyebrows, squinty eyes, a nonexistent upper lip, a three-dimple chin and dirty blond hair. Robyn: Large eyes, full lips, long dramatic hair and a Jessica Rabbit vibe--stunning. I can see why Victoria is jealous/intimidated-- Robyn's got the face & figure (NT) -- No name, 07:46:40 07/17/24 Wed (static-198-54-135-123.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.123) Please let's not go there. This has nothing to do with who is prettier. This is about a bully taking her actions way too far and she needs to be stopped. Robyn is not the only victim at the hands of this bully. There are probably 10 or more that have been bullied by her over the past 4+ years. Let's please keep the focus on that. (NT) -- No name, 13:16:26 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/172.56.220.148) Bottom line fact.....neither were ever Miss America material by any stretch. Simple as that. The blond is a psychopath obviously and aged out and the other just NO and has aged out as well. She was 1st runner up to Miss Alaska so she needs to take that and be happy. (NT) -- No name, 16:37:21 07/17/24 Wed (c-67-172-2-116.hsd1.ar.comcast.net/67.172.2.116) Victoria is not aged out. The article got her age wrong. She’s only 24 or 25. Robyn has aged out, she is 27. And whether or not either of them was or is Miss America material is neither here nor there. The fact is that the organization refused to follow their own contract and instead protected the young woman who violated it by sending bullying messages and by bullying others in person. I the last time I spoke to Robyn K she stated while yes she would like the police to fully investigate this and press criminal charges, that is not in her control. What is in her control is using the media to put pressure on the Miss Pa and Miss America organization to change how they handle these situations and do better for the future young women competing. She is working with lawyers to find a legal way to be able to push that as well. (NT) -- No name, 01:52:12 07/18/24 Thu (ec2-54-152-234-148.compute-1.amazonaws.com/54.152.234.148) Have you seen/spoken to Robyn recently? In the past year she’s done a complete 180° in appearance… you’re right she’s not Miss America material, in my opinion the girl should be competing for Miss USA!!! (NT) -- No name, 14:42:39 07/22/24 Mon (NoHost/103.101.202.120) https://www.instagram.com/p/C9vDldPRGMF/?igsh=MWkycG5hczM4NzNrdg== Agreed! She really made over herself. Good for her, she posted this yesterday on her personal Instagram. In my opinion, Pennsylvania missed out on having her. I hope she ends up suing them and removing the board. Too many girls here in PA have experienced neglect from the PA team about this. (NT) -- No name, 10:28:01 07/23/24 Tue (NoHost/74.118.138.198) Remind me not to ever cross someone who posted "Bushy eyebrows, squinty eyes, a nonexistent upper lip, a three-dimple chin and dirty blond hair." There are truths so evident from the pictures of Ms. Despico,. they do not need to be said. There is some great truth to the saying that a picture or video can capture a soul. (NT) -- No name, 20:01:48 07/17/24 Wed (c-75-70-175-167.hsd1.co.comcast.net/75.70.175.167) And this was before she was finished losing weight. The girl lost 100lbs in the past year working her butt off (literally) and now looks DYNAMITE! She went from a size 18 to a size 4 and somehow still kept her boobs/curvy figure. I’m actually jealous, when I lose weight my boobs go down in size 😂 (NT) -- No name, 01:55:48 07/18/24 Thu (45-79-172-97.ip.linodeusercontent.com/45.79.172.97) I do find it admirable that the perpetrator's mommy has her back on instagram. If there was not a paper trail in the judicial system first, I might say it's simply drama. But it isn't, and the people running the Miss PA should have used those findings to DQ their 2nd runner up. They have zero business running a pageant with teen contestants. I remember when people were hyperventilating over Kira allegedly making pledges craft overnight. This saga is positively sociopathic in comparison. (NT) -- No name, 19:39:49 07/17/24 Wed (c-75-70-175-167.hsd1.co.comcast.net/75.70.175.167) I'd forgotten about the Kira thing. Imagine, 10 years ago, Miss America herself was at risk of being dethroned due to bullying in her sorority. Now we have a psychopathic queen literally threatening her rivals with death and she's still holding a local title and was 2nd RU at state. It's despicable. Maybe the Miss PA Board get sued right along with the girl they protected (NT) -- No name, 23:14:31 07/17/24 Wed (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Have you ever seen a picture, and got some weird impression about someone? I do not mean that they were physically ugly, as much as you just sense something is amiss on a soul level? That is what struck me looking at a couple of the perp's photos. How the pageant or the Girl Scouts allowed this given the court records seems like malpractice on their part. I always thought the Kira s-storm was a bit over the top. This is in such a different league. As a former Pittsburgh resident, I'm saddened that a kind, talented, and decent person could not be found to displace this person as 2RU. 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Subject: What is the current MAO policy for titleholders that want to compete in other organizations after the state competition?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 07:41:38 07/19/24 Fri (NoHost/209.198.16.98) What is the current MAO policy for titleholders that want to compete in other organizations after the state competition? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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It’s a free world (NT) -- I say go for it, 08:24:26 07/19/24 Fri (173-19-211-221.client.mchsi.com/173.19.211.221) Contestants are free to compete anywhere they wish immediately after the state competition. This is a rule that has not changed and state ED's intimidate girls to think otherwise. (NT) -- No name, 08:35:48 07/19/24 Fri (NoHost/190.93.96.4) They have to resign their titles per the contract (NT) -- No name, 11:35:23 07/19/24 Fri (NoHost/128.163.8.38) A candidate for Miss Florida MAO was allowed to compete in the state pageant while also holding a title in Miss Florida USA. She competed for Miss Florida MAO one Saturday and the following Saturday she competed for Miss Florida USA. Please explain how that was allowed, both organizations were aware of her holding the other title. That is not right! (NT) -- No name, 14:05:17 07/22/24 Mon (104.244.142.154.cnsnext.com/104.244.142.154) Here’s how it works. You hold the MAO local title, apply for a USA local title but alert them that you have an MOA local title and cannot accept the USA local title until after the MAO state competition. MAO state competition occurs and doesn’t win, resigns MAO local title, accepts USA local title and competes at USA state. It works bc USA is appointed. Further the Miss and the Teen that did this both aged out of their respective MAO age groups. (NT) -- No name, 00:30:37 07/23/24 Tue (108.sub-174-212-41.myvzw.com/174.212.41.108)

Subject: MISS AMERICA TALENTS. Update #2. As of 22 July 2024.

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MISS AMERICA TALENTS. Update #2. As of 22 July 2024.

1. Alabama: Abbie Stockard – Lyrical Dance – “You Say” by Lauren Daigle
2. Alaska: Jordan Brielle Naylor -- Ballroom Dance – “A Little Party Never Killed Anybody (All We Got)” by Fergie
3. Arizona: Shailey Sue Ringenbach -- Dance -- ????
4. Arkansas: Camille Cathey -- Vocal – “If I Had My Way” by Linda Eder
5. California: Kimberly Vernon -- Jazz Dance – “Proud Mary” by Ike & Tina Turner
6. Colorado: Alexandra Michele Lotko – Vocal – “Yesterday” by The Beatles
7. Connecticut: Monica Ann Fenwick -- Woodwind: Flute – “Don’t Stop Me Now” by Queen
8. Delaware: Nova Rae Gaffney -- Classical Ballet en Pointe – “Black Swan Variation”
9. District of Columbia: Katie Ann Powell -- Bow-String: Harp – “Baroque Flamenco” by Deborah Henson-Conant
10. Florida: Casana Fink – Dance – “Rescue” by Lauren Daigle
11. Georgia: Ludwidg (LuLu) Louizaire – Vocal – “I Believe in You and Me” by Whitney Houston.
12. Hawaii: Hayley Kaimalie Cheyney-Kane – Vocal / Hula – “Aloha Wau Ia 'Oe”
13. Idaho: Madison (Madi) Andreason – Dance -- ????
14. Illinois: Breana Kay Bagley -- Dance -- ????
15. Indiana: Kalyn Brook Melham – Vocal – “They Just Keep Moving the Line” from “Smash” (???)
16. Iowa: Abigaille Julia (Abi) Batu-Tiako – Vocal -- ????
17. Kansas: Alexis Smith – Ventriloquism – “The Auctioneer” by Leroy Van Dyke
18. Kentucky: Chapel Faye Tinius -- Bow-String: Fiddle – “The Devil Went Down to Georgia” by The Charlie Daniels Band / Orange Blossom Special by Ervin T. Rouse (???)
19. Louisiana: Olivia Grace George -- Dance – “The Elvis ’68 Comeback Special” (Does anyone know the exact Elvis song?)
20. Maine: Jennie Daley – HERStory – “I Want to Be an Engineer”
21. Maryland: Bridget O’Brien -- Vocal – “Don’t Rain on My Parade” from “Funny Girl”
22. Massachusetts: Kiersten Khoury -- HERstory – “Undefined”
23. Michigan: Jenae Clayre Lodewyk -- HERstory – “Rising to the Occasion”
24. Minnesota: Emily Rae Schumacher -- Tap Dance – Elvis Has Left the Building Medley: “Jailhouse Rock”, “Trouble”, “Viva Las Vegas”, “Burning Love”, “Hound Dog”
25. Mississippi: Rebecca (Becky) Williams -- Jazz Dance – “Don’t Stop Me Now” by Queen
26. Missouri: Ashley Berry -- Ballet en Pointe – ????
27. Montana: Kaylee Anne Wolfensberger – Piano -- ????
28. Nebraska: Raechel Warren -- Artistic Roller Skating – “The Show Must Go On” by Queen
29. Nevada: Karrina Ferris -- Ballet en Pointe -- ????
30. New Hampshire: Emily Maureen Spencer -- Ballet en Pointe – “One Moment in Time” by Whitney Houston
31. New Jersey: Elizabeth Mendel -- Dance-- ????
32. New Mexico: Emille Marie Enriquez -- Ballet Folklorico -- ????
33. New York: Abigail Quamenn – Vocal – “The Impossible Dream” from “Man of La Mancha”
34. North Carolina: Carrie Everett – Vocal – “And I Am Telling You (I’m Not Going)” from Dreamgirls
35. North Dakota: Sophia Richards – Vocal – “La Vie en Rose” by Edith Piaf / Grace Jones
36. Ohio: Stephanie Finoti -- Ballet en Pointe – “Don Quixote” by Marius Petipa and Ludwig Minkus
37. Oklahoma: Lauren Frost -- Contemporary Clogging -- “Hound Dog” (Big Mama version) by Big Mama Thornton
38. Oregon: Abigail Marie Hoppe – Latin Jazz Dance – ????
39. Pennsylvania: Page MacKenzie Weinstein -- Baton Twirl -- ????
40. Puerto Rico: (Wilma) Victoria Richiez (Mateo) – Speed Painting -- ???? (Song and Painting)
41. Rhode Island: Ali Hornung – Vocal – “Part of Your World”
42. South Carolina: Davis Wash – Vocal – “Ain’t No Sunshine”
43. South Dakota: Joelle Simpson -- Bow-String: Harp – “Harp Cadenza from Tchaikovsky ballet Swan Lake”
44. Tennessee: Carley Jaymes Vogel -- Vocal – “Climb Every Mountain” from “The Sound of Music”
45. Texas: Annette Addo-Yobo – Slam Poetry – “When Andrew Speaks, Autism S.P.E.A.K.S” (Is this the actual name??)
46. Utah: Paris Julia Matthews -- Jazz Dance -- 80’S MEDLEY: ????
47. Vermont: Meara Seery -- Vocal – “Seven Nation Army” by The White Stripes
48. Virginia: Carlehr Swanson – Vocal / Piano – “Natural Woman” by Aretha Franklin
49. Washington: Hermona Girmay – Vocal – “Home” from “The Wiz”
50. West Virginia: Jennifer Nicole Reuther -- Lyrical Dance – “Beautiful People” by Ed Sheeran featuring Khalid
51. Wisconsin: Mandi J. Genord -- Jazz Dance – “You Don’t Own Me” by Lesley Gore
52. Wyoming: Baylee Drewry – HERstory – “Miss Drewry, Wrestling Coach” (???)

These are the MISS talents performed at state. Please reply with any new input, talent changes for nationals, or any corrections.

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Subject: MISS AMERICA’S TEEN TALENTS. Update #2: As of 22 July 2024.

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MISS AMERICA’S TEEN TALENTS. Update #2: As of 22 July 2024.

1. Alabama: Ali Mims -- Opera: Lyric-Soprano – “O mio babbino caro” from Puccini’s Gianni Schicchi
2. Alaska: Meghan Paige Roth -- Lyrical Dance – “Dandelions” by Ruth B
3. Arizona: Vianah Rose Bradt -- Dance --????
4. Arkansas: Peyton Nicole Bolling – Jazz Dance -- “Man of La Mancha (I, Don Quixote)” from “Man of La Mancha”
5. California: Keira Elizabeth Bixler -- Ballet en Pointe -- “Big Noise from Winnetka” by Gene Krupa
6. Colorado: Maddie Coombes – Lyrical Dance -- ????
7. Connecticut; Camryn Elyse Patton -- Dance -- ????
8. Delaware: Gabrielle Morgan -- Musical Theatre Lyrical Dance -- ????
9. District of Columbia:
10. Florida: Ireland Harkins -- Tap Dance – “Ophelia” by The Lumineers
11. Georgia: Carrington Elan Manous -- Lyrical Dance – “I Don’t Know My Own Strength” by Whitney Houston
12. Hawaii: Nicole Taylor McCain -- Lyrical Dance – “Defying Gravity” from “Wicked”
13. Idaho: BrekLynn Pancheri -- Dance -- ????
14. Illinois: Lucy Kuelper – Vocal -- ????
15. Indiana: Bella Bauer -- Lyrical Dance -- ????
16. Iowa: Avery Bradley – Dance – “Voice of God” by David Bowe (not to be confused with David Bowie)
17. Kansas: Averie Mountain -- Cinema Lyrical – “Friend Like Me” from “Aladdin”
18. Kentucky: Mallory Jones – Vocal – “Blue Moon” by Elvis Presley (or The Marcels)
19. Louisiana: Melissa Le – Piano -- Hungarian Rhapsody by Franz Liszt
20. Maine: Eva Antonia Benjamin – Vocal – “Aleluya (En La Tierra)” by Elevation Worship
21. Maryland: Zoe Zuzak -- Dance -- ????
22. Massachusetts: Margaret (Maggie) Leighton – Vocal -- “Livin’ On a Prayer” by Bon-Jovi
23. Michigan: Isabelle Lorraine Musk -- Contemporary Dance – “This Version of Me” by ODESZA
24. Minnesota: Brynn Marie Olson -- Jazz Dance -- “Tough Lover” by Etta James or Christina Aguilera.
25. Mississippi: Brooke Elizabeth Bumgarner – Vocal – “Somewhere Over the Rainbow” from “The Wizard of Oz”
26. Missouri: Bridget Caldwell -- Tap Dance – “I Got You (I Feel Good)” by James Brown
27. Montana: Emma McPherson – Dance -- ????
28. Nebraska: Janae Harris -- Dance -- ????
29. Nevada: Ava Ilitchev -- Lyrical Dance -- ????
30. New Hampshire: Kylie Laroche – Lyrical Dance – “Wind Beneath My Wings” by Bette Midler.
31. New Jersey: Abigail Mignucci – Vocal – “The Life I've Never Led” from “Sister Act: The Musical”
32. New Mexico: Grace Marie Evans -- Dance -- ????
33. New York: Erica Parks – Tap Dance – “Show Me How You Burlesque” from “Burlesque”
34. North Carolina: Kamryn Hollowell -- Clogging – “The Devil Went Down to Georgia” by The Charlie Daniels Band
35. North Dakota: Taylor Christianson -- Ballet en Pointe – “La Esmeralda” (Tambourine Variation) by Jules Perrot
36. Ohio: Allie Gray -- Sign Language -- ????
37. Oklahoma: Kynlee Schultheis -- Ballet en Pointe -- ????
38. Oregon: Kendyl-Rae Bartz -- Ventriloquism – “Anything You Can Do (I Can Do Better)” from “Annie Get Your Gun” (Dummy’s name is Sarah)
39. Pennsylvania: Arianna Spurlin -- Tap Dance – “Wings” by Little Mix
40. Puerto Rico: Azahara A. Rosado (Gonzalez) – Classical Ballet -- ????
41. Rhode Island: Payton Blair Mays -- Vocal – “Reflection” from “Mulan”
42. South Carolina: Mary Elle Marchant – Musical Theatre Lyrical Dance – “I Hope I Get It” from “A Chorus Line”
43. South Dakota: Briley Hope Steffensen – Theatre Acro-Dance – “Don’t Lose Ur Head” from “SIX”
44. Tennessee: Leela Kate Beaty -- Dance -- ????
45. Texas: Macie Grace Krause -- Dance -- ????
46. Utah: Kira Gardner -- Lyrical Dance – “I Don’t Think About You” by Kelly Clarkson
47. Vermont: Charlee Royer -- Cinema Lyrical Dance – “The Rose” by Bette Midler.
48. Virginia: Cassidy Nicole Lee – Musical Theatre Lyrical Dance -- ????
49. Washington: Emma Adams – Piano -- “Bohemian Rhapsody” by Queen
50. West Virginia: Demi Delaney Breeden -- Jazz Dance --FOREVER COUNTRY MEDLEY — “Take Me Home, Country Roads” by John Denver / “I Will Always Love You” by Dolly Parton or Whitney Houston
51. Wisconsin: Ella Bey -- Lyrical Dance -- “Stay” by Rhianna featuring Mikky Ekko
52. Wyoming: Carlyn Grace Murray -- Irish Fusion Dance – “Faith” by George Michael

These are the TEEN talents performed at state. Please reply with any new input, talent changes for nationals, or any corrections.

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Subject: History of Talent - Clog dance / clogging

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Date Posted: 16:36:18 07/22/24 Mon
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85 – SC – Sherry Shrift – “Are You from Dixie” – 1RU
92 – KY – Tawnya Mullins – “Banjo” – T10
95 – WV – Elizabeth McIntyre – “Dance”
01 – MI – Stacy Essabaggers – “Rhythm of the Night” “Disco Diva Mendley” – T10
11 – NC – Adrienne Core – “Soul Man” – PT, NFT
13b – AR – Amy Crain – “Game Time” – T15
14 – SC – Lanie Hudson – “Think”
15 – ME – Kelsey Early – “Black Betty”
18 – KY – Katie Bouchard – “Soul Man”
19 – WY – Jordan Hardman – “9 to 5”
22 – KY – Hannah Edelen – “Banjo Fantsasy”
22 – LA – Gracie Reichman – “Blue Suede Shoes”
24 – MO – Hayley Leach – “Baby I’m a Star”
Pending
25 – OK – Lauren Frost – “Hound Dog”

additions, corrections, please -thank you

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Subject: MISS AMERICA TALENTS. Update #1. As of 14 July 2024.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:30:21 07/14/24 Sun (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) MISS AMERICA TALENTS. Update #1. As of 14 July 2024. 1. Alabama: Abbie Stockard – Lyrical Dance – “You Say” by Lauren Daigle 2. Alaska: Jordan Brielle Naylor -- Ballroom Dance – “A Little Party Never Killed Anybody (All We Got)” by Fergie 3. Arizona: Shailey Sue Ringenbach -- Dance -- ???? 4. Arkansas: Camille Cathey -- Vocal – “If I Had My Way” by Linda Eder 5. California: Kimberly Vernon -- Jazz Dance – “Proud Mary” by Ike & Tina Turner 6. Colorado: 7. Connecticut: Monica Ann Fenwick -- Woodwind: Flute – “Don’t Stop Me Now” by Queen 8. Delaware: Nova Rae Gaffney -- Classical Ballet en Pointe – “Black Swan Variation” 9. District of Columbia: Katie Ann Powell -- Bow-String: Harp – “Baroque Flamenco” by Deborah Henson-Conant 10. Florida: Casana Fink – Dance – “Rescue” by Lauren Daigle 11. Georgia: Ludwidg (LuLu) Louizaire – Vocal – “I Believe in You and Me” by Whitney Houston. 12. Hawaii: Hayley Kaimalie Cheyney-Kane – Vocal / Hula – “Aloha Wau Ia 'Oe” 13. Idaho: Madison (Madi) Andreason – Dance -- ???? 14. Illinois: Breana Kay Bagley -- Dance -- ???? 15. Indiana: Kalyn Brook Melham – Vocal – “They Just Keep Moving the Line” from “Smash” (???) 16. Iowa: Abigaille Julia (Abi) Batu-Tiako – Vocal -- ???? 17. Kansas: Alexis Smith – Ventriloquism -- ???? (Also, does anyone know the name of the ventriloquist dummies?) 18. Kentucky: Chapel Faye Tinius -- Bow-String: Fiddle -- The Devil Went Down to Georgia by The Charlie Daniels Band / Orange Blossom Special by Ervin T. Rouse (???) 19. Louisiana: Olivia Grace George -- Dance – “The Elvis ’68 Comeback Special” (Does anyone know the exact Elvis song?) 20. Maine: Jennie Daley – HERStory – “I Want to Be an Engineer” 21. Maryland: Bridget O’Brien -- Vocal -- ???? 22. Massachusetts: Kiersten Khoury -- HERstory – “Undefined” 23. Michigan: Jenae Clayre Lodewyk -- HERstory – “Rising to the Occasion” 24. Minnesota: Emily Rae Schumacher -- Tap Dance – “Elvis Has Left the Building” (Does anyone know if that is the closing vamp to Elvis’ concerts—You know, the one that has a riff that almost sounds like the theme to “Family Feud”?) 25. Mississippi: Rebecca (Becky) Williams -- Jazz Dance – “Don’t Stop Me Now” by Queen 26. Missouri: Ashley Berry -- Ballet en Pointe – ???? 27. Montana: Kaylee Anne Wolfensberger – Piano -- ???? 28. Nebraska: Raechel Warren -- Artistic Roller Skating – “The Show Must Go On” by Queen 29. Nevada: Karrina Ferris -- Ballet en Pointe -- ???? 30. New Hampshire: Emily Maureen Spencer -- Ballet en Pointe – “One Moment in Time” by Whitney Houston 31. New Jersey: Elizabeth Mendel -- Dance-- ???? 32. New Mexico: Emille Marie Enriquez -- Ballet Folklorico -- ???? 33. New York: Abigail Quamenn – Vocal – “The Impossible Dream” from “Man of La Mancha” 34. North Carolina: Carrie Everett – Vocal – “And I Am Telling You (I’m Not Going)” from Dreamgirls 35. North Dakota: Sophia Richards – Vocal – “La Vie en Rose” by Edith Piaf / Grace Jones 36. Ohio: Stephanie Finoti -- Ballet en Pointe – “Don Quixote” by Marius Petipa and Ludwig Minkus 37. Oklahoma: Lauren Frost -- Contemporary Clogging -- “Hound Dog” (Big Mama version) by Big Mama Thornton 38. Oregon: Abigail Marie Hoppe – Latin Jazz Dance – ???? 39. Pennsylvania: Page MacKenzie Weinstein -- Baton Twirl -- ???? 40. Puerto Rico: 41. Rhode Island: Ali Hornung – Vocal – “Part of Your World” 42. South Carolina: Davis Wash – Vocal – “Ain’t No Sunshine” 43. South Dakota: Joelle Simpson -- Bow-String: Harp – “Harp Cadenza from Tchaikovsky ballet Swan Lake” 44. Tennessee: Carley Jaymes Vogel -- Vocal – “Climb Every Mountain” from “The Sound of Music” 45. Texas: Annette Addo-Yobo – Slam Poetry – “When Andrew Speaks, Autism S.P.E.A.K.S” (Is this the actual name??) 46. Utah: Paris Julia Matthews -- Jazz Dance -- 80’S MEDLEY: ???? 47. Vermont: Meara Seery -- Vocal – “Seven Nation Army” by The White Stripes 48. Virginia: Carlehr Swanson – Vocal / Piano – “Natural Woman” by Aretha Franklin 49. Washington: Hermona Girmay – Vocal – “Home” from “The Wiz” 50. West Virginia: Jennifer Nicole Reuther -- Lyrical Dance – “Beautiful People” by Ed Sheeran featuring Khalid 51. Wisconsin: Mandi J. Genord -- Jazz Dance – “You Don’t Own Me” by Lesley Gore 52. Wyoming: Baylee Drewry – HERstory – “Miss Drewry, Wrestling Coach” (???) These are the MISS talents performed at state. Please reply with any new input, talent changes for nationals, or any corrections. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Colorado: Alexandra Lotko – Vocal -- "Yesterday" by The Beatles (NT) -- No name, 19:56:02 07/15/24 Mon (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) Miss Kansas sang The Auctioneer’s Song. (NT) -- Sorry, can’t help with the dummies names., 03:44:44 07/21/24 Sun (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) favorites -- No name, 15:06:50 07/21/24 Sun (syn-174-109-193-164.res.spectrum.com/174.109.193.164) Miss Minnesota's talent was “Elvis Has Entered the Building” (medley: Jailhouse Rock, Trouble, Viva Las Vegas, Burning Love, Hound Dog) (NT) -- The last line was "Elvis has left the building", 10:53:31 07/22/24 Mon (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136)

Subject: How fair do you feel the pageants are without transparent scoring?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:30:04 07/21/24 Sun (syn-024-236-220-203.res.spectrum.com/24.236.220.203) I've read that the newly crowned was bought in. How do we fix this? Without seeing scores there in no way to keeping this from keep happening. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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MAKES THE PAGEANT EASY TO FIX (NT) -- No name, 21:52:33 07/21/24 Sun (syn-076-082-048-252.res.spectrum.com/76.82.48.252) Posting scores should happen immediately after the winners are announced and candidates should get responses and feedback from judges (NT) -- Would make things very transparent, 06:49:23 07/22/24 Mon (adsl-75-61-167-165.dsl.irvnca.sbcglobal.net/75.61.167.165) This is laughable at best because no matter the feedback, the delegate or parent or director wouldn't agree with the feedback and use this as a way to say the process isn't fair and that they purposely scored low. Every parent believes their child is the best and should get 10s across the board. Keep dreaming! (NT) -- No name, 08:18:20 07/22/24 Mon (NoHost/170.20.11.5) That is not true. Other systems provide feedback and it is helpful. Yes, every parent wants the best for their child, but how can an individual improve if they do not know what they need to work on? And it also has accountability for judges. If they have to comment or justify a score, I believe more thought would be put into the scoring. Realize that it is the ones who don’t make it into the top 10/15 that need the feedback. (NT) -- Transparent scoring is in nearly every competition. Pageantry should hav it too., 09:15:00 07/22/24 Mon (pool-108-18-246-29.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.246.29)

Subject: When will the judge render a decision?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:01:00 07/20/24 Sat (NoHost/47.217.175.32) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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There will be one more 1/2 day of court to finish the trial. Day/time has not be set yet. Once the final day of trial happens, I am unsure if the judge will render his verdict on the spot, or take some time to render it. Remember this trial is only about who temporarily gets control of Miss America until the actual trial happens. Whoever wins this will get to run the 2025 Miss America Pageant in January. It’s highly likely that Robin will remain in control under the “status quo” law which allows everything to stay the same until the actual trial. The real trial to determine ownership will be sometime in 2025. (NT) -- No name, 18:52:35 07/20/24 Sat (NoHost/38.172.112.247) Thank you! (NT) -- No name, 20:58:44 07/21/24 Sun (NoHost/47.217.175.32)

Subject: Give it up Robin
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:44:57 07/18/24 Thu (syn-035-146-232-027.res.spectrum.com/35.146.232.27) I think we can all give Robin some credit for what she has done for the organization so far as far as bringing elements of glamour back and fitness among other things… but I think it’s time for her to give it up and move on. She should forfeit the case as she is proving that she doesn’t have one! If this trial continues and goes on and on (which I think is less likely everyday they go to court because it’s clear the judge is not leaning in favor of her and doesn’t take her seriously at all) Robin will be holding up the dreams of many young women. The girls preparing for Miss/Teen nationals 2025 deserve to prepare with confidence and know exactly what they are going into vs leadership changes at the last minute or feeding into Robin’s play ceo make believe pageant. Let it go Robin.. you have no case and you’ve already lost. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I have listened to every word of the trial and I do not find your assertion accurate in the least. I think it is going to be very complicated for the judge to make this decision. Robin and/or Glenn are the OWNERS of Miss America, so you don’t resign or walk away from ownership. I personally feel that they are basically co-owners based on what I heard in the trial. Before the dispute in ownership, everyone in the pageant community was on board with Robin. She ran a fantastic national pageant last January and provided a level of stability that Miss America had not seen the five years prior. Your comments are so one sided and not accurate in the least. They are very emotional and obviously against Robin. I am neither for or against Robin or Glenn, but I am just supportive of figuring out stable leadership for the organization. (NT) -- No name, 10:09:28 07/20/24 Sat (NoHost/107.115.163.7) By the sheer fact that we are here, this situation lays squarely at the feet of Robin. Time for her exit. She is NOT the leadership this organization needs. Just ask the volunteers during this years pageant. Completely unorganized and a mess. She simply does not have the skills. (NT) -- -, 10:40:46 07/20/24 Sat (bulkmail.hacienda.gob.mx/173.239.211.112) Nobody will ever be good enough for you people. You will bitch and complain till the MAO is gone. There is no pleasing you perfect people (NT) -- No name, 20:12:16 07/20/24 Sat (mobile-166-196-082-062.mycingular.net/166.196.82.62) Will everyone get exactly what they want? Nope it will never happen. However, Robin is turning this system into an "only the rich can play" organization. So much for girls winning scholarships. The only ones who will be able to compete don't need them. (NT) -- No name, 16:17:57 07/21/24 Sun (c-76-134-28-45.hsd1.ar.comcast.net/76.134.28.45) LAWSUIT -- No name, 12:32:54 07/20/24 Sat (NoHost/107.116.255.7) Where can we access this?? (NT) -- No name, 14:25:22 07/20/24 Sat (NoHost/172.56.67.140) Crown -- No name, 19:41:46 07/20/24 Sat (syn-172-248-166-086.res.spectrum.com/172.248.166.86) It is pretty clear that some of Glenn's boot-licking toadies are coming on here to post against Robin. Robin isn't perfect, but I also don't think Glenn is credible either. The courts will decide this, not the court of public opinion on the Voy message boards. (NT) -- No name, 01:25:57 07/21/24 Sun (NoHost/159.100.209.51) Spoken like Robin or one of her toadies. The arrogance that only Robin's opinion matters gives it away. (NT) -- No name, 16:22:15 07/21/24 Sun (c-76-134-28-45.hsd1.ar.comcast.net/76.134.28.45) That's not what it says at all. It's exactly what's true (NT) -- No name, 19:49:20 07/21/24 Sun (104-179-20-249.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net/104.179.20.249)

Subject: Truce
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:04:54 07/20/24 Sat (NoHost/38.172.112.247) Is there any way that Robin and Glenn can call a “truce” and come up with REAL ownership documents that put both of them as 50-50 owners? This would be so much better for the organization if they could put their differences aside and come together on this. Of course it would require both sides to forgive the other, but these two have been friends for a long time and obviously had a good time running the pageant together for the last year. Can they just get in a room together, say they are sorry, and come back together with new ownership paperwork? It’s so obvious now that this really was a 50-50 partnership between the two. Let’s make it official, stop all the lawsuits, and introduce Glenn to the pageant community. Give him a chance to do something worthwhile to make up for all his mistakes in life, and let Robin keep running iit, as she is damn good as a CEO of the pageant. We need his money and we need her expertise. Go back to the way things were before their dispute started. This could be so good. This would save so much time, energy, heartache, and money. Please consider this for the sake of the pageant. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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There is no coming back from this for the two of them. Also Robin stole from the organization. She has no business being in any leadership position for this organization as she has proved time and time again that she is not good at business hence her dress shop and all the bad business she did there. No telling what she did with funds from FL USA… There is no apologizing. Robin needs to go and Glenn needs to make sure this organization has great leadership and a strong board of directors to prevent dictatorship like Robin’s. (NT) -- No name, 19:44:00 07/20/24 Sat (NoHost/172.56.67.140) Well, the two of them are going to have to work together if the judge rules that they are co-owners 50-50. If I were the judge, that’s how I would rule because that’s how it appears to be. So eventually they will either have to work together, or one side would have to sell their half to the other, or they could sell the whole thing altogether. I just cannot see the judge giving full ownership to either side. (NT) -- No name, 12:37:17 07/21/24 Sun (NoHost/38.172.112.247) Its difficult to believe that Robin would have "ownership" when she didn't have any funds of her own to contribute. Look at he history of her business and you will most likely see that she was not financially able. (NT) -- No name, 13:22:12 07/21/24 Sun (c-76-154-237-175.hsd1.co.comcast.net/76.154.237.175) The problem is that Shantel testified on the stand that they did not consider whether the purchaser had any money. She said that was a very, very small part of their decision. Remember they sold it to Robin for $100. (NT) -- No name, 13:37:38 07/21/24 Sun (NoHost/38.172.112.247) Plaintiffs Brief -- No name, 15:45:10 07/21/24 Sun (NoHost/107.122.81.140) Whatever happens this drama has caused a huge riff within the organization. I pray neither come back. (NT) -- No name, 12:50:00 07/21/24 Sun (syn-172-254-022-154.biz.spectrum.com/172.254.22.154) Glenn purchased Miss America. Robin ran it for him and when he couldn't access the bank accounts and felt there was a misappropriation of funds, he fired her. No skin in the game but it appears obvious the pageant is his and hopefully he will put a sound leader in charge who loves MAO and its history. (NT) -- Capitol view, 13:41:31 07/21/24 Sun (73.sub-174-216-177.myvzw.com/174.216.177.73) Needs to be someone with a spine and a backbone that will stand up to not only state leaders but the actual perpetrators of bullying. Girls like the ones in PA and CO need to be shut out completely and told your participation is not wanted. (NT) -- No name, 15:23:47 07/21/24 Sun (c-67-172-2-116.hsd1.ar.comcast.net/67.172.2.116) TRUCE? -- No name, 15:55:52 07/21/24 Sun (c-76-134-28-45.hsd1.ar.comcast.net/76.134.28.45)

Subject: When is the final night of Miss Colorado and is it live streamed? I thought it was tonight on Pageants Live.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:11:33 07/13/24 Sat (107-129-113-26.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net/107.129.113.26) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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My understanding is that it is not being live-streamed (NT) -- No name, 19:15:10 07/13/24 Sat (108.sub-174-212-41.myvzw.com/174.212.41.108) Thank you! (NT) -- No name, 19:51:20 07/13/24 Sat (107-129-113-26.lightspeed.mmphtn.sbcglobal.net/107.129.113.26) Tonight is preliminaries. Tomorrow (Sunday) finals. (NT) -- No name, 22:46:23 07/13/24 Sat (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) PRELIM WINNERS - Fitness - Vail, Abby Dennis ; Gown - Front Range, Alex Lotko (NT) -- No name, 23:34:09 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/185.187.168.39) Any news from Colorado? Have they called the top 10? (NT) -- No name, 19:38:12 07/14/24 Sun (c-73-243-218-118.hsd1.co.comcast.net/73.243.218.118) Cherry Creek, Vail, Fort Collins, Golden, Aurora, Rocky Mountain, Academy, Front Range, Flatirons, Western Colorado, Colorado Springs (NT) -- No name, 21:15:44 07/14/24 Sun (209.sub-174-201-19.myvzw.com/174.201.19.209) Top 11: Gabrielle Burns, Makenzie Cline, Abby Dennis, Gabrielle Gramont, Allison Harrison, Hannah Hickman, Kenzie Jensen, Alexandra Lotko, Lydia Rader, Sonia Tegang, Danielle Weniger (NT) -- No name, 21:22:25 07/14/24 Sun (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) Is it true that Lotko is Larry Razal’s niece? (NT) -- No name, 21:40:31 07/14/24 Sun (139.25.35.89.baremetal.zare.com/89.35.25.139) Well that is just uncouth if true. What a conflict of interest! (NT) -- n/a, 22:16:54 07/14/24 Sun (syn-071-068-020-110.res.spectrum.com/71.68.20.110) Why? (NT) -- No name, 22:38:09 07/14/24 Sun (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) Larry is on the board… (NT) -- no name, 23:36:20 07/14/24 Sun (syn-071-068-020-110.res.spectrum.com/71.68.20.110) How convenient that she won. There were much better girls…this is a joke. (NT) -- No name, 23:44:37 07/14/24 Sun (NoHost/146.70.215.219) She’s his goddaughter!! Crazy that she won with that horrible singing talent. -- No name, 00:08:56 07/15/24 Mon (c-107-2-183-252.hsd1.co.comcast.net/107.2.183.252) Couldn't be worse than Savannah Cavanaugh's talent! That was record-setting horrible. (NT) -- No name, 00:39:27 07/15/24 Mon (174-16-132-156.hlrn.qwest.net/174.16.132.156) Oh, Lotko sang Savannah Cavanaugh’s talent song. Mette, please save us. (NT) -- No name, 02:23:06 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/146.70.215.219) What did she sing? (NT) -- No name, 13:21:35 07/15/24 Mon (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) “Yesterday” almost as poorly as Savannah but not quite. -- No name, 14:36:48 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/66.113.9.233) No, that is not true. Sounds like sour grapes. (NT) -- No name, 01:44:55 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/65.158.198.34) She told the girls she is his goddaughter -- No name, 15:09:39 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/66.113.9.233) Correction! Someone said that her godfather Larry is not the board member Larry! She apparently shared on her socials so someone must’ve told her what everyone’s assumptions were. -- No name, 16:53:15 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/66.113.9.233) This is correct. Larry Cook (not Larry Razal) is her goddaughter. For God's sake, GET A LIFE! (NT) -- No name, 13:23:04 07/16/24 Tue (75-30-250-233.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net/75.30.250.233) If this is true, I hate when girls work HARD all year round to promote an organization, perfect their talent & interview just to be unplaced by someone PICKED. It’s so unfair! (NT) -- No name, 02:56:42 07/15/24 Mon (7-62-88-167.clients.gthost.com/167.88.62.7) She is not his goddaughter. she has a godfather named larry and was telling other contestants because he came all the way from Mexico to support her this weekend. she posted him on her socials today, seems someone just simply took it out of context. (NT) -- No name, 21:37:07 07/15/24 Mon (8.sub-174-234-7.myvzw.com/174.234.7.8) Thank you for this clarification - she did post on insta a pic of her and her godfather Larry who is NOT the same Larry who is on the CO BOD. There is only one man on the board and there are pictures of him with posted in a tux with the other board members. (NT) -- No name, 12:30:39 07/16/24 Tue (c-73-14-185-181.hsd1.co.comcast.net/73.14.185.181) Top 5: Makencie Cline, Abby Dennis, Allison Harrison, Alexandra Lotko, Lydia Rader (NT) -- No name, 23:10:55 07/14/24 Sun (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) 4RU: Abby Dennis, 3RU: Lydia Rader, 2RU: Makencie Cline, 1RU: Allison Harrison; Winner: Alexandra Lotko (NT) -- No name, 23:32:44 07/14/24 Sun (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) I AM SO GLAD IT WAS NOT 1RU. She thought it was her in the moment. It was comedy seeing her react in the moment as if she had won. (NT) -- No name, 02:33:07 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/146.70.215.219) Elizabeth Melchronoclodious AKA Miss Denver AKA Queen of Drama AKA Miss Denver Bully! You urgently need to go get a life and schedule a therapy appointment first thing tomorrow morning! You know what’s been a real comedy and better than a reality TV show? Seeing you spend your screen time for the last couple years of your life on Miss America and Miss America Volunteer Voy boards bullying other girls and sticking your dirty nose in other contestants lives. Go get a life gurl! SERIOUSLY! -- No name, 05:05:43 07/15/24 Mon (unn-37-19-220-129.datapacket.com/37.19.220.129) What do you expect to happen by calling her out? You post that this contestant is mean spirited… This post is mean spirited too (NT) -- No name, 09:53:16 07/15/24 Mon (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) woof this is a nasty post. Hope you’re calling your therapist too babe! Sounds like you need to chat (NT) -- no name, 12:13:44 07/15/24 Mon (65.sub-174-245-81.myvzw.com/174.245.81.65) Elizabeth! Miss Denver!!!!! Are you not ashamed of yourself from being called out and making it obvious for yourself on Voyboard with your 172 VPN? A genuine question for you: If you hate literally everyone who did better than you and was a threat to you in Miss Colorado and Miss Florida Organizations, why are you still competing? You should be disqualified from every single competition going forward. -- 17, 13:33:42 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/217.148.140.214) What do you expect to happen by calling her out? What Sally says about Sue says more about Sally than about Sue (NT) -- No name, 14:18:02 07/15/24 Mon (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) But you’re essentially doing the “same” thing you’re accusing her of. Attacking and bullying her. Do you even have proof of these allegations? You’re a coward. (NT) -- No name, 15:10:47 07/15/24 Mon (153-135-68-38.clients.gthost.com/38.68.135.153) Yes… This “calling people out” for their bad behavior bullying, harassment and so on does not make any sense to me when you bully and harass that person online too (NT) -- No name, 16:07:10 07/15/24 Mon (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) These comments are so vicious and harmful. Regardless of whether or not the woman in question engaged in the behavior that she is being accused of. If she spoke about other competitors in a harmful way, that is inexcusable, but these comments are perpetuating the exact same behavior and it needs to stop. (NT) -- No name, 15:40:36 07/15/24 Mon (c-107-2-139-187.hsd1.co.comcast.net/107.2.139.187) Wow… What a mean spirited post… What do you expect to happen by calling a contestant out? (NT) -- No name, 12:07:58 07/15/24 Mon (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) Denver seemed to be a fan favorite on here. Can anyone say how her performance was ? Disappointed there was no live stream (NT) -- No name, 23:55:06 07/14/24 Sun (NoHost/104.28.76.236) Yes, what happened? Also, what’s the winner’s background? (NT) -- No name, 01:20:45 07/15/24 Mon (118-135-68-38.clients.gthost.com/38.68.135.118) Winner has never competed before. Denver was strong and I am baffled!!!! I need answers as to how the JUDGES COORDINATOR’S goddaughter is the newly crowned - with a bad talent and weak presence!!! (NT) -- No name, 02:43:40 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/45.13.235.150) What was Miss Denver’s talent? Did she make it to top 11? (NT) -- No name, 14:48:32 07/15/24 Mon (m.gripdownhill.com/91.219.212.126) No she didn’t make top 11 but was a non finalist interview award (NT) -- No name, 17:56:33 07/15/24 Mon (c-73-244-218-159.hsd1.fl.comcast.net/73.244.218.159) Miss Denver was contestant number one. She played Violin to one of Dolly Partons songs. Her Talent did not stand out. She did not make it to Top 11 and it seems like she created a lot of Drama with other contestants. (NT) -- No name, 15:04:57 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/86.107.55.154) Is the new Miss Colorado related to Larry Razal? Someone who knows, please answer this question (NT) -- No name, 05:33:25 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/172.56.64.46) She told everyone during rehearsals that Larry is her godfather. (NT) -- No name, 08:56:56 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/45.13.235.154) Her godfather? Perhaps if she didn't win he was afraid of waking up with a horse's head in his bed. (NT) -- No name, 11:47:38 07/15/24 Mon (6.sub-174-247-6.myvzw.com/174.247.6.6) Winner is fine....but... this was her first year competing and her education, platform and everything else about her is pretty weak. She had a great prep team as far as using Meredith Boyd for H&M, great headshot and yes she is pretty - I struggle to see how Miss America herself could be in attendance and even SS with her background could meet the judges and set the standard of what they are looking for and then have Lotko win? It just doesn't make sense. It's not sour grapes - it's a cry for consistency. Does CO want a strong titleholder ready to step into the job or a pretty face who can take a good picture? Even in her interview with SS after winning evening gown I was bored. Someone make it make sense on how this girl won. (NT) -- No name, 12:30:03 07/15/24 Mon (c-73-14-185-181.hsd1.co.comcast.net/73.14.185.181) My guess is the new Miss CO comes from a rich family. That usually helps a state organization forget all about her shortcomings (NT) -- No name, 13:24:54 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/38.98.217.147) She certainly does. This is not the first time Colorado has crowned a rich girl who was not the best competitor. They desperately need money right now, they were emailing a few weeks ago asking for gas money for Swift.In spite of them not paying out scholarships, they’re still struggling. -- No name, 15:14:02 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/66.113.9.233) a tale as old as time in CO. No matter who is on the BOD there have been heavy rumors of favoritism and picking winners. Anyone who was at the pageant live who could chime in? Did she have a wow factor on stage? How was her OSQ? ANYTHING to justify this win? (NT) -- No name, 15:56:09 07/15/24 Mon (c-73-14-185-181.hsd1.co.comcast.net/73.14.185.181) Umm...her talent was horrendous - sang the same song as Savannah did when she somehow won and it was JUST AS AWFUL. Neither one of them can carry a tune in a bucket or find the right key. It was BAD. If I could post the video of it here I would. I mean we're talking embarrassingly bad. (NT) -- No name, 23:22:32 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/139.71.144.5) I was actually thinking the same way! Was there with one of my title holder friends and I was expecting Miss Cherry Creek first runner up to win! She Slayed! Her talent, gown, on stage question, and platform were phenomenal! We were sitting behind the judges and you could see their reactions and how they were enjoying Miss Cherry Creek’s performance. Too bad the title went again to another rich girl :( It’s hard to tell what they want. (NT) -- No name, 19:31:22 07/16/24 Tue (sword11.pressfantasysh.com/146.70.159.11) So gross to call out a candidate on here that didn’t even place. Is sounds like YOU are sour and need help. Be more kind and do better (NT) -- No name, 13:16:13 07/15/24 Mon (unn-37-19-200-73.datapacket.com/37.19.200.73) Why do people do that? What do people expect to happen by calling out others? (NT) -- No name, 14:02:41 07/15/24 Mon (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) Can you take a guess who is the best person to answer your question? Elizabeth, Miss Denver! She is the real expert since she spends most of her time on Voy board spreading hate and negativity on all winners including Sarah Swift, Savanah, Miss America Madison Marsh, board of directors and even getting real personal with girls! I don’t blame her though. She has one extra thing to grieve about ;) (NT) -- No name, 14:56:29 07/15/24 Mon (unn-143-244-60-121.datapacket.com/143.244.60.121) What a sick thing to say! At the end of the day, it’s just a pageant. Outside of this, she’s a REAL person who has gone through a lot of hardship. Whether you like her not, it tells more about your character than hers, to sit up here and say that. (NT) -- No name, 15:03:51 07/15/24 Mon (153-135-68-38.clients.gthost.com/38.68.135.153) You are being AWFUL! There is a wide berth between discussion and cruelty - I agree that this board is leaning towards cruel more often than not lately, but this is not how you solve it. Some of these comments…I genuinely believed everyone would come to their senses after a night’s rest. I will be praying for a lot of y’all :( (NT) -- No name, 15:15:33 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/45.13.235.150) Awww… so so sorry you’re feeling this way. The saddest and most awful tho is when Elizabeth Miss Denver didn’t think twice before she was purposefully mean to most of the girls and had the audacity to speak about the new board of directors, former and current title holders , and Miss America. Have you heard of Karma? Please keep her in your prays too. ;) (NT) -- No name, 15:51:42 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/86.107.55.154) What Sally says about Sue says more about Sally than about Sue… Publicly calling out someone does more harm than good… Being vindictive does more harm than good (NT) -- No name, 16:15:01 07/15/24 Mon (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) WTF? With your logic, you think pointing out a murderer is worse than murder. (NT) -- that's not how the world works, 21:40:51 07/16/24 Tue (unn-185-156-46-167.datapacket.com/185.156.46.167) You are perpetuating the same behavior you accuse Miss Denver of…. What good does that do? Think about that (NT) -- No name, 16:22:20 07/15/24 Mon (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) And since you're replying twice to the same post, so will I: With your logic, you think pointing out a murderer is worse than murder. (NT) -- that's not how the world works,, 21:45:15 07/16/24 Tue (unn-185-156-46-167.datapacket.com/185.156.46.167) I do not follow the world (NT) -- No name, 23:14:24 07/16/24 Tue (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) Do you have an issue with someone replying twice to a post? (NT) -- No name, 23:47:00 07/16/24 Tue (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) Yes! A person populating the board repeatedly with their same opinion makes it appear as if more people have that opinion. (NT) -- Manipulating the boards to influence opinion has always been a no-no, 06:55:07 07/17/24 Wed (static-198-54-135-123.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.123) Just posting my thoughts… No manipulation intended (NT) -- No name, 11:18:54 07/17/24 Wed (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) Calling people out causes more harm than good (NT) -- No name, 15:32:26 07/15/24 Mon (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) Did you tell Elizabeth this when she was bullying other girls and spreading her harm? (NT) -- No name, 18:10:59 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/91.219.214.12) I do not live in Colorado… So, I cannot do that (NT) -- No name, 19:01:28 07/15/24 Mon (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) What did she do to “bully” other girls? Making comments ? No different than what’s you’re doing…correct? (NT) -- No name, 21:58:52 07/15/24 Mon (8-62-88-167.clients.gthost.com/167.88.62.8) wow. I think you need to take a long hard look in the mirror, do some internal work, and then come back in a year. What an awful thing to say. And an interesting take as well, as she is literally friends with Sarah??? (NT) -- No name, 15:46:54 07/15/24 Mon (173-27-77-79.client.mchsi.com/173.27.77.79) True! She was best friends with Sarah until Miss Denver, Elizabeth brought to voy board that Sarah Swift is dating Sarah Carlson’s son who is the new director of Miss CO and Miss Denver was questioning if this was legal!! ;) you can scroll down threads and check that unless she deleted them already. (NT) -- No name, 16:00:02 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/86.107.55.154) Since you’re speaking so personally on the matter you must know Sarah. I am pretty sure the Swifts would be ashamed of the type of language and hate you’re using. -- No nMd, 16:28:10 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/66.113.9.233) Even if she did do all that, what you are doing is so much worse! You are an awful, awful person. If your family isn't ashamed of you, it's only because they don't know how terrible a person you truly are (NT) -- No name, 14:28:50 07/16/24 Tue (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) There has certainly been discourse and comments about contestants, but that happens on every forum. The level of vitriol to make fun of someone’s dead parents? It’s crazy to me that you have the time and energy to say such disgusting things about someone who did not even place and still feel the need to tear them down more? Your last comment was so sick and evil. I’ll be praying for you, I hope you grow to find and know the light, kindness, and peace of Jesus in your heart. -- No name, 15:50:24 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/66.113.9.233) OMG! I feel so bad for Miss Denver. I hope she is doing okay! I can’t even think about how it feels to be in this position. Can someone tell us why she is being called out like this? What did she do? (NT) -- No name, 16:08:27 07/15/24 Mon (unn-84-17-63-104.cdn77.com/84.17.63.104) You are being sarcastic? (NT) -- No name, 16:36:40 07/15/24 Mon (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) Just coming from a complete outsider who doesn't know this young lady, YOU poster sound like a complete psychopath. What the hell is wrong with you???!?! If I had to guess, you're someone who is miserable in life, dealing with a lot of trauma and you've found a target to bully. You should be ashamed of yourself for your behavior. I hope to god you have one hell of a patient therapist (NT) -- No name, 14:25:06 07/16/24 Tue (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Quesstion -- Me, 14:10:08 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/69.150.103.150) It would not be surprising to me if she wanted to appease him. He is the only person from the old board / team remaining. -- No name, 14:55:11 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/66.113.9.233) What were the teen results? (NT) -- No name, 07:53:18 07/16/24 Tue (syn-097-087-117-197.res.spectrum.com/97.87.117.197) What is Randy Pruitt’s connection to the new Miss CO? (NT) -- No name, 15:34:35 07/16/24 Tue (NoHost/38.98.217.147) Randy will attached himself to anything for clout. It is who he is. (NT) -- No name, 08:41:24 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/12.233.34.186) He is friends with the Godfather in question and with the winners family. Spent the week going to all the events with the judges and appearing onstage photos. (NT) -- No name, 17:16:59 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/50.200.174.200) Transparency -- No name, 22:07:29 07/18/24 Thu (syn-024-236-220-203.res.spectrum.com/24.236.220.203) Isn't his middle name Velcro? (NT) -- "Thank you! I'm here all week!" Thump...thump ..."Is this thing on.....?", 19:27:13 07/17/24 Wed (94.sub-174-247-0.myvzw.com/174.247.0.94) Where you see Randy, know that there is fishy business going on. (NT) -- No name, 09:35:52 07/19/24 Fri (NoHost/12.233.34.186) Well color me cynical...a scholarship donor with the name Larry Gayeski was a "Ruby Level" donor $5,000-$9,999) at Miss Colorado. I hate to make assumptions, but I would lay money on that being the winner's godfather. (NT) -- No name, 19:19:03 07/19/24 Fri (NoHost/107.127.28.60) Talked about it -- No name, 23:55:16 07/20/24 Sat (syn-024-236-220-203.res.spectrum.com/24.236.220.203) Crack pipes! Put em down! We’ve talked about this! (NT) -- No name, 19:40:39 07/19/24 Fri (92.sub-174-234-0.myvzw.com/174.234.0.92)

Subject: Miss USA and the Olympics
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:43:28 07/19/24 Fri (NoHost/120.28.64.225) As this year's Miss USA will be held concurrently with the 2024 Paris Olympics scheduled to be held next week. Miss USA was always took place before the Olympics, the exception was the 2021 pageant held after the 2020 Tokyo Olympics (which was delayed by a year due to the pandemic), as the state pageants had been held concurrently at the same time as that Olympics. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Maybe a ratings war between the pageant and the Olympics? -- No name, 00:43:28 07/20/24 Sat (syn-035-150-243-200.res.spectrum.com/35.150.243.200) No contest The Olympics The pageant is a joke now that they let anyone compete (NT) -- No name, 01:20:28 07/20/24 Sat (14.sub-174-193-199.myvzw.com/174.193.199.14) This was used to be right before the Olympics from 1952 to 2016. -- No name (list), 22:07:17 07/20/24 Sat (NoHost/180.190.75.150)

Subject: OMG
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:23:39 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/107.115.163.7) Shantel testified on the stand that the MAO did not do a Financial Disclosure request of Robin Fleming prior to the sell, that the financial ability of the buyer was only a very small part of who to sell it to. Robin just admitted on the stand that she had over 1,000 phone calls with Mr. Straub, and that they had multiple meetings each month. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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And for some reason the fact that Robin made a $250 "donation" in November of 2022 that demonstrated to them that she was legit?? Give me a break. All Shantel did was show us all how incompetent and/or negligent she and that entire team were. (NT) -- No name, 10:32:19 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/134.204.27.246) Actually, she said she wouldn’t be surprised if it was over 1000 phone calls when the lawyer stated that number. Chantelle explained that the organization has been in financial distress for many many years, but still manages to hold the competition, hence the reason that the financial viability portion of it was a very small part (NT) -- No name, 10:38:49 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/74.122.140.14) Slippery question. The number of calls placed by Glenn does not equate to number of conversations. He could have called 20 times a day but only spoke once. (NT) -- No name, 10:47:09 07/18/24 Thu (c-73-74-207-142.hsd1.il.comcast.net/73.74.207.142) Robin didn’t make that claim. This trial is spilling all the tea. Robin’s lack of liquid funds; Shantel’s insistence two reasons they picked Robin was 1) she would maintain scholarships and 2) maintain judging standards. She has done neither. If you aren’t on, please join (NT) -- No name, 10:50:34 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/38.98.217.147) What did Robin not claim? The "donation" and the supporting exhibit were shown/discussed with Shantel. (NT) -- No name, 11:41:37 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/148.173.101.242) Well now they're reading Robin's texts to Glenn where she tells Glenn that she'd like for him to meet with Shantel...but I thought he had nothing to do with anything... Robin? Robin? Oh yeah, she's full of shit. (NT) -- No name, 11:10:11 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/148.173.101.242) Robin just stated that Glenn attended the Moss America Pageant at the Mohegan with her before the purchase. She also asked Shantel if she wanted to meet the “silent partner.” She also shared she and Glenn have been friends for years (NT) -- No name, 11:18:41 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/107.115.163.7) Robin is toast. She keeps asserting that she had a “line of credit” for 4 million dollars, and yet there is no document that says that. (NT) -- No name, 11:25:49 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/107.115.163.7) They presented a text message from Robin to Glenn asking for a raise from him. She also stated that she had to run all legal issues for Miss America by Glenn. She also submitted travel expenses for Glenn to pay. (NT) -- No name, 11:28:18 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/107.115.163.7) OMG, that was a joke. Tell the full story of her testimony. (NT) -- No name, 21:20:33 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/74.122.140.14) Did Robin just insult the judge?? She just said, "I believe that's privileged. But privilege doesn't seem to weigh in the courts anymore". Nice move, Robin!! (NT) -- No name, 11:38:56 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/148.173.101.242) That’s exactly what she said! (NT) -- No name, 11:40:12 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/107.115.163.7) I still do not understand how Robin would have any right to anything other than conceivably fair back wages. If you do no have money, ya can’t buy stuff. If it’s someone else’s money then - it’s not yours. The stiff they buy from s not yours unless you have an agreement that SAYS it’s yours. There is no such agreement. This to me is very similar to squatters rights - and all of the angst over it today simply because - someone moves into your house so “now it’s mine.” No, it is not. We may have trouble throwing you out on your as* but - it’s not yours and you’re merely biding your time. (NT) -- No name, 11:42:36 07/18/24 Thu (pool-173-79-116-75.washdc.fios.verizon.net/173.79.116.75) No Robin, all these people are watching because we know YOU are full of crap. You've been a horrible "leader" and are and HAVE RUINED Miss America. We aren't affiliated with Glenn - we have our own brains and can think for ourselves. No, we're here because of your failed "leadership". We're watching the proceedings anonymously because we all know that YOU will retaliate if you know our identities. You've already shown what happens if states don't do what you dictate they do - even within their own state leadership. (NT) -- No name, 11:45:46 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/148.173.101.242) Robin approached this as a “Friendship Deal.” She just became buddies with a really rich dude and just milked his money for all it is worth. (NT) -- No name, 11:45:57 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/107.115.163.7) The testimony ended with Robin trying to do a Private Interview closing, yet the Judge began questioning her and she admitted she had no emotional connection to this organization (NT) -- No name, 12:09:19 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/172.56.220.23) Yep she is done… we all might as well get ready for a completely new rebranding of Miss America yet again. (NT) -- No name, 13:01:15 07/18/24 Thu (syn-035-146-232-027.res.spectrum.com/35.146.232.27) So let me get this straight, Ryan...you were more concerned with whether the "buyer" was familiar with MA (plenty of other potential buyers were) than WHETHER THEY COULD PAY FOR IT!! Hey Ryan, what about the states who wanted to ban together and buy MA? They were pretty familiar with MA. But no, y'all went with "Auntie Robin" (NT) -- No name, 13:34:57 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/148.173.101.242) Ryan told us all that Jeffrey Hazlett's offer was put on hold because his monies were tied up in an offshore account that coud not be accessed within a timeframe determined by the MAO Board, and yet he let Robin take over? We met in CT in December, and were told that there were 2 offers on the table, but the timing doesn't work out: Robin had already started the paperwork to take over MAO BEFORE he met with the State Directors. (click in) -- No name, 17:25:34 07/18/24 Thu (berlin01.tor-exit.artikel10.org/185.220.101.19) WOW! Thank you for this insider's view of what has been happening. Obviously, 52 State EDs will be cheering when Robin & Ryan are removed. I wish Glenn's attorneys would learn all of these details. Also about how Robin ended the scholarships even though that was one of the main reason Shantel expressed MAO wanted the new leaders to continue. (NT) -- No name, 16:37:25 07/20/24 Sat (syn-172-254-022-154.biz.spectrum.com/172.254.22.154) Hey Ryan, the shows sold out because the venues were so freaking small you genius (NT) -- No name, 13:38:42 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/148.173.101.242) “We had a sold out event!” It’s not hard to sell out a venue the size equivalent of a high school gym. (NT) -- That’s not the flex they think it is., 13:39:10 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/76.100.172.113) What was Ryan Brown’s role in the Miss Hawaii Org? -- No name, 13:46:23 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/209.198.16.98) GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!! While volunteers give their time and MONEY at the state and local levels, something Ryan just talked about at the beginning of his testimony, it's now confirmed that RYAN IS PAID. So while they aren't paying their taxes or scholarships, Ryan and Robin made sure THEY got their money. (NT) -- No name, 13:49:53 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/148.173.101.242) And he should be paid with as much work as he does. Why do you have such a problem with this??? (NT) -- No name, 20:20:09 07/18/24 Thu (syn-024-209-024-068.res.spectrum.com/24.209.24.68) How much is Ryan paid? It can never be enough, but I AM curious, because Robin SWORE he refused to even take a gift card for services last year. (NT) -- No name, 11:38:09 07/19/24 Fri (berlin01.tor-exit.artikel10.org/185.220.101.19) So the treasurer of MAO thinks there was a financial disclosure provided by the potential “buyer” but has no idea what was in it? The CEO testified there was no disclosure provided. These clowns couldn’t even properly do due diligence on a sale of the company. (NT) -- No name, 14:23:56 07/18/24 Thu (c-73-56-165-221.hsd1.fl.comcast.net/73.56.165.221) No Ryan, the reality is that if Robin is removed, MANY MANY states would REJOICE!! The angels from above would sing loudly and the clouds would break open to make way for sunshine. THAT'S the reality. You are right, we would "see the end of Miss America as we know it". What a glorious day that would be. Miss America as we know it (your words, Ryan) is a shit show. Run by a power hungry, woman with a fragile ego and a vindictive mean streak. So yes, we can't wait for that to happen. (NT) -- No name, 14:29:14 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/148.173.101.242) The award for consuming the most of Robyn’s Koolaid goes to Ryan Brown. He’s claiming all 52 State Executive Directors will resign if Robyn’s removed….. LOL ….. dude you’re delusional. They play the game with Robyn’s replacement just like they are playing it with you and Robyn… (NT) -- No name, 14:32:07 07/18/24 Thu (c-73-56-165-221.hsd1.fl.comcast.net/73.56.165.221) There are tons of people watching now. Many familiar names. If you aren’t watching you are missing out. Single-handedly the most interesting day of Miss America drama in a long time! (NT) -- No name, 14:35:34 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/107.115.163.7) question -- No name, 15:16:17 07/18/24 Thu (hs-171-211.ala.tularosa.net/66.18.171.211) The Zoom meeting number is 88244742921. Hope that helps! (NT) -- No name, 15:19:14 07/18/24 Thu (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123) The host is not letting me in the zoom. Ugh. (NT) -- No name, 15:35:34 07/18/24 Thu (syn-024-163-059-002.res.spectrum.com/24.163.59.2) 38 people qualified as tons?? (NT) -- No name, 16:11:15 07/18/24 Thu (c-73-74-207-142.hsd1.il.comcast.net/73.74.207.142) For real, if you have other obligations this afternoon I would suggest you fake your illness now so you can go home, pop some popcorn, and join it. This is better than any reality show on Bravo. And WAY more educational. We've been shown just how inept Shantel, Ryan, the previous BoD was. There was clearly some impartial treatment (we picked "Auntie Robin"!) in making the "sale" and just how big an idiot Ryan is. (NT) -- No name, 14:53:37 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/148.173.101.242) Will we have an answer today? -- None, 15:02:53 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/172.56.33.10) Ryan, dude. You lied on the stand saying you "assumed" there was a financial document in Robin's background check. Assuming means you don't know. Couldn't answer a simple yes or no question. Instead skirted it over and over. You didn't have it in you to tell the truth upfront. Pathetic. Directors will rejoice you are gone man. ED's are only nice to your face because they fear being fired. Wake up aikāne. You lied on the stand for Robin, and for what? To save the little salary you said wasn't enough for the work you do. (NT) -- Sad., 08:05:27 07/19/24 Fri (NoHost/2.57.169.37) Who were the other people who wanted to "buy" Miss America? I guarantee this was not a business decision. This was personality and emotion driven. MAO will not survive unless the reigns are taken over by a business man or woman who can separate the emotion from the business. We have not had good results when formers and others who say they love the program take over and then proceed to fundamentally change the tradition that is engrained in the program. There is a way keep the tradition in the 21st century, but, so far the right leaders have not been found who can gain the respect of all the volunteers who are crucial to survival.. I love all the formers, and their opinions should be listened to, but they should not have anything to do with the BUSINESS of MAO. (NT) -- No name, 13:54:44 07/19/24 Fri (NoHost/50.86.219.105)

Subject: Miss Teen USA headshots are on
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:11:41 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/180.190.212.13) https://themissteenusa.com/the-contestants/ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Fav teens ga Minnesota New Hampshire and (NT) -- No name, 02:45:41 07/19/24 Fri (234.sub-174-193-196.myvzw.com/174.193.196.234) Nebraska Wyoming and Oregon. If I had to pick one by photos Oregon Some go too far with the false eyelashes (NT) -- No name, 14:40:16 07/19/24 Fri (62.sub-174-193-194.myvzw.com/174.193.194.62) All beautiful. DC, FL, KS, NV, OH, SC, TN, UT are my favorite headshots. (NT) -- No name, 13:20:54 07/19/24 Fri (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) Overall headshot fav: DC (NT) -- No name, 15:45:27 07/19/24 Fri (NoHost/45.89.242.80) First impression standouts: DC, MA, MS, NJ, RI, UT (NT) -- LEE, 07:31:50 07/20/24 Sat (NoHost/73.191.114.245) Most if not all of these headshots are so filtered that it borders on the ridiculous. Teens should look like teens not like they are auditioning for a remake of Pretty Baby. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 10:10:50 07/20/24 Sat (ip98-169-228-239.dc.dc.cox.net/98.169.228.239) Agree! mos look like their in their 20s (NT) -- No name, 14:19:51 07/20/24 Sat (NoHost/73.191.114.245) Amen just crazy and some look like they are stoned (NT) -- No name, 16:06:20 07/20/24 Sat (22.sub-174-193-199.myvzw.com/174.193.199.22) I like TX and ND best. They look like spunky, natural teens to me. (NT) -- No name, 15:45:26 07/20/24 Sat (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240)

Subject: Balanced Review of Yesterday’s Trial
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:13:55 07/19/24 Fri (NoHost/107.115.163.7) I have no emotional stake in the Miss America trial, but I am interested and I have been listening in to the trial in its entirety. I think there are a lot of comments on this board that are more emotional and not in line with the spirit of the trial. Here is my opinion of what have been my top take-aways. 1. ROBIN AND GLENN WERE FRIENDS AND BUSINESS PARTNERS. It’s become clear from the trial that Robin and Glenn were business partners. They had a very “informal” relationship that worked when things were going well, but blew up when things got rocky. Because of the informal nature of their relationship, there was very little formal paperwork put into place. Robin had a “tab” with him and he wrote the checks and his daughter almost joined the venture. Robin asked him for a raise at one point, and she ran all of her legal paperwork by him because he wanted to see it all. They even got tickets to see a show together, and he accompanied her to the last two Miss America pageants. By all accounts, these two absolutely appeared to be in a friendly business relationship together. 2. FAKE DOCUMENTS ON BOTH SIDES. It is my opinion that both sides fabricated documents. It appears as though Glenn and his attorney Craig Gallo made up ownership documents first, followed by what I think are fake Miss America Organization meeting minutes that were likely created after the dispute started. Of course I have no proof of either, but it certainly appears that way to me. Also, stories of stolen laptops in Italy and spilled whiteout do not pass the smell test. 3. MAO DID NOT DO DUE DILIGENCE OF FINANCES WITH THE SALE. We learned that Miss America was for sale and was taking bids from folks who wanted to buy it. Ryan Brown shared that there were three proposals to buy the organization. Ryan assumed that the law firm overseeing the sale was conduction financial checks on the buyers, but he never saw them as the Treasurer of the Organization. Shantel Krebs testified that having the financial means to run the organization basically wasn’t a factor in who to sell it to, and admitted there were no financial checks on Robin. 4. ROBIN OPERATED IN TWO DIFFERENT WORLDS. It became clear throughout the trial that Robin had two different operations of sorts going on with Miss America. She coordinated the national program with state leaders with the help of Ryan, and then she had her day to day “business” side of running the company with Glenn, Craig Galle, the Palm Beach Polo Club, it doesn’t appear she tried to hide the business side altogether from the states, but she definitely didn’t do any formal introductions to bring the two worlds together. 5. RYAN’S TESTIMONY LIKELY SAVED ROBIN. Ryan was very well spoken and personable on the stand and the best witness by far. His line about the 52 state EDs walking away if Robin was removed, and that Miss America would end, was very powerful. While we have no idea if that would actually be the case, I have no doubt it resonated with the judge. For that reason, I do believe that Robin will be able to keep Miss America going in the interim. 6. NO END TO LEGAL WOES. Assuming Robin gets to maintain control of the pageant for now, it will be a long road until the actual trial to decide the owner. In addition, the Bryan Cave Law Firm and the Miss America Foundation both have substantial lawsuits against Miss America. Also, with Shantel’s testimony of choosing someone who would continue scholarships, as well as no financial checks on buyers, seems to leave the door open for a lawsuit claiming that the sale was fraudulent and/or illegal. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I agree with everything you say here with the exception of your comments on Ryan saving her with his “line of bs” about all the Stare Directors quitting. You must have missed the look on the judges face when Ryan said that. He was not impressed and is clearly seeing through most of the BS… (NT) -- No name, 12:23:42 07/19/24 Fri (c-174-61-102-178.hsd1.fl.comcast.net/174.61.102.178) I saw the look on the judges’ face but I didn’t take it the way you took it. I took it as genuine concern by the judge. (NT) -- No name, 12:48:20 07/19/24 Fri (NoHost/107.115.163.7) Thank you for such an unbiased review for those of us that couldn’t get in. I think it’s hard to keep emotion out when you are so invested. Even in people saying the judge saw through Ryan. That sounds much more like an emotional perspective. -- None, 14:27:38 07/19/24 Fri (NoHost/172.58.244.20) Why would Ryan state that about the 52 ED’s? Is this fact? Was there an actual poll done? I find this extremely problematic whether true or not. Every state ED should be remaining neutral right now. No one knows anything. (NT) -- No name, 15:00:02 07/19/24 Fri (241.sub-174-242-139.myvzw.com/174.242.139.241) I think the judge will take into consideration which side has the money to produce the national pageant. (NT) -- No name, 15:04:22 07/19/24 Fri (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123) What is the next steps in this process? Waiting for the judge to decide? (NT) -- No name, 15:06:30 07/19/24 Fri (NoHost/207.193.220.102) You don’t take sides, but you are believing with no proof that the 52 state EDs will side with Robin. That should definitely be something someone checks out. I think EDs would prefer to have someone that is going to have the money to pay the bills. -- No name, 16:16:21 07/19/24 Fri (NoHost/209.198.16.98) "I have no emotional stake in the Miss America trial..." 😂😂 When you start with that I know you're full of BS. But then when you say Ryan's testimony "likely saved Robin" now we ALL know you're full of BS. He should've been considered a witness for the plaintiff. I'm not sure what version of his testimony you were watching, but it wasn't what I watched. (NT) -- No name, 16:21:35 07/19/24 Fri (NoHost/107.127.28.60) Shantel just testified she was a Blow Hard, which we already knew (NT) -- No name, 17:07:03 07/19/24 Fri (108-239-242-250.lightspeed.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net/108.239.242.250) I disagree about Ryan's testimony. The judge clearly was not having his pledges about he would work for free nonsense. In fact, the judge made sure Ryan understood that if Robin lost the franchise, he would as well. The judge wasn't sure Ryan understood that. (NT) -- No name, 15:15:13 07/20/24 Sat (syn-172-254-022-154.biz.spectrum.com/172.254.22.154)

Subject: When is the Mediation and Trial date set for Robyn & Glenn?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:05:39 07/10/24 Wed (c-73-56-165-221.hsd1.fl.comcast.net/73.56.165.221) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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There is a mini trial date called a restraining order set for 7/18 & 7/19. If there is a need of mediation, it would occur after that. (NT) -- No name, 16:35:20 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/103.89.13.82) Apologies, I thought I read on here that medication was scheduled. (NT) -- No name, 16:38:42 07/12/24 Fri (c-73-56-165-221.hsd1.fl.comcast.net/73.56.165.221) Mediation…oops (NT) -- No name, 18:05:13 07/12/24 Fri (c-73-56-165-221.hsd1.fl.comcast.net/73.56.165.221) Do you have to be rich and religious to win Miss CO? Does this apply on other states? -- No name, 17:38:40 07/19/24 Fri (NoHost/134.238.191.101) Do NOT invest your money in Miss CO organization! (NT) -- No name, 14:09:28 07/20/24 Sat (NoHost/146.70.215.189)

Subject: Miss USA photos are up
Author: PikachusWorld [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:12:56 07/19/24 Fri (65-128-199-70.mpls.qwest.net/65.128.199.70) https://themissusa.com/2024-delegates/ [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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First impression standouts: DE, DC, IA, FL, ND, TN, UT, WA (NT) -- LEE, 07:25:26 07/20/24 Sat (NoHost/73.191.114.245)

Subject: Wednesday’s Trial Info
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:56:59 07/16/24 Tue (NoHost/107.115.163.133) This Wednesday (tomorrow) the trial over who owns Miss America begins. It’s important to note that this phase is not the actual case to hear who owns Miss America. This is the case to decide who gets to run Miss America in the interim until the actual case is decided. Robin asserts that she should maintain control since she has been running it up to this point. Glenn asserts he and his team should be able to take over immediately. The judge has also already mentioned that he has the option to appoint a “third party” interim CEO to guide the organization until the final case happens. Everyone in the org should listen to the trial. It’s super easy to listen in anonymously. Here is the info: https://us02web.zoom.us//88244742921 MEETING ID: 882 4474 2921 Both Kay Alexander and Jan Mitchell have been subpoenaed to testify that Robin is doing a good job. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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What time Wednesday is this? (NT) -- No name, 17:33:00 07/16/24 Tue (NoHost/38.98.217.147) And remember, even though Robin's attorney whined about not wanting anonymous observers to be able to watch, YOU MAY REMAIN ANONYMOUS! Just don't turn on your camera and pick a random user name. I'm certain Robin's Karma and Concerned will be there. But everyone should go listen in and hear things for themselves. (NT) -- No name, 17:57:46 07/16/24 Tue (mobile-166-196-054-112.mycingular.net/166.196.54.112) Yes, because they are childish! (NT) -- No name, 20:16:48 07/16/24 Tue (syn-024-209-024-068.res.spectrum.com/24.209.24.68) To whomever Robins Karma and Concerned are, you are our hero. Thank you for representing those of us scared to speak up. (NT) -- No name, 10:01:16 07/17/24 Wed (150-200-158-23.clients.gthost.com/23.158.200.150) You're welcome. If anyone has anything they would like passed along or shared, you can email RK at karma.can.bite.back@gmail.com You WILL remain anonymous. (NT) -- No name, 10:47:31 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/148.173.101.246) I would appreciate a breakdown of the events as they unfold, as I am working and can't participate in the Zooms (NT) -- No name, 17:55:55 07/17/24 Wed (ns3112521.ip-54-36-108.eu/54.36.108.162) Hey never mind having your eyes glued to the television for the Republican National Convention this week in Milwaukee, Wisconsin...lets tune to the CourTV network for Miss America trial coverage. -- Is any media (local or national) even aware of this---on anyone's media radar? If so, who?, 18:04:06 07/16/24 Tue (syn-047-225-246-099.biz.spectrum.com/47.225.246.99) Uhh, no. Most Republicans aren't even watching the Convention, lol. (NT) -- You overestimate others involvement in politics, 20:58:15 07/16/24 Tue (unn-185-156-46-167.datapacket.com/185.156.46.167) Starts at 10am EST. It is scheduled to last all day for two days in a row. (NT) -- No name, 18:27:20 07/16/24 Tue (NoHost/107.115.163.133) Is there an RFP to be appointed to right the ship and run the program while these two hash it out? How will the judge randomly appoint someone? (NT) -- No name, 19:13:48 07/16/24 Tue (syn-172-088-249-138.res.spectrum.com/172.88.249.138) Is that really the best you can do for someone to vouch. I know one of them has skeletons in her closet and it makes me wonder if Glen or Robin know. (NT) -- No name, 20:08:52 07/16/24 Tue (NoHost/12.97.154.146) You dick tease. Give it up!!! (NT) -- No name, 20:59:34 07/16/24 Tue (static-198-54-135-123.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.123) Just ONE of them? Nope. (NT) -- No name, 21:07:02 07/16/24 Tue (NoHost/107.127.28.71) This case is a disaster for this organization. I didn’t realize this allows a third party to take over until a decision is made. I hope NO ED is allowing Ryan or Robin to order then to do one thing until this case is settled. (NT) -- No name, 21:18:35 07/16/24 Tue (NoHost/38.98.217.147) bump (NT) -- No name, 08:06:34 07/17/24 Wed (static-198-54-135-123.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.123) We can now hear & see if what Robin has been telling us is true? (NT) -- No name, 08:25:07 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/38.98.217.147) Kay and Jan should be concerned. If Robin loses, both of therm will be OUT! (NT) -- No name, 10:15:06 07/17/24 Wed (75-30-250-233.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net/75.30.250.233) And RYAN too! Cue the confetti! (NT) -- No name, 10:58:30 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/148.173.101.246) Glenn will definitely fire Ryan (NT) -- No name, 17:09:11 07/17/24 Wed (c-68-81-105-202.hsd1.pa.comcast.net/68.81.105.202) I’m surprised how short most of your memories are. Do you not remember 2.0? That was awful. Maybe Robin isn’t perfect but look at how far we have come from Shantel. If you love the Miss America Organization we need to be hoping for consistency in leadership now. It’s the first time our leadership has held regular zoom calls with state and local Ed’s. -- None, 11:14:48 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/172.56.33.10) Regular calls where Robin is not interested in candid discussion and where she spews her own BS? You mean calls where she throws out stupid ideas that then have to be walked back? Yeah, that's been great. (NT) -- No name, 11:31:32 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/148.173.101.246) Oh we remember. When Miss America use to give out scholarships. We remember prizes that were announced were given. We remember when we highlighted our longtime dress store owners not make rules to try and destroy them. We remember when judges were announced, competitions/rules were not changed weekly. So if you want to celebrate Robin because she used current technology to stay in touch (some may say monitor) the volunteers, I will applaud with you. We also remember and will never forget, on one of your lauded Zoom meetings, Robin saying “I have enough money to run Miss America for the next 100 years”. We all are clearly learning this morning, she didn’t and she doesn’t. (NT) -- No name, 11:32:14 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/38.98.217.147) Robin’s defense is that she “fell prey” to Mr. Straub. They are going to talk about how he takes advantage of women. Ummm, when Glenn’s name was mentioned as the possible owner before the deal was done, PEOPLE ON THIS BOARD googled him and saw all the horrible things about him! Did Robin not google him before going into business with him? (NT) -- No name, 11:38:07 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/107.115.163.7) The judge shut down Robin's lawyer real quick for bringing up Straub's alleged other business practices and court issues. (NT) -- No name, 11:45:12 07/17/24 Wed (static-198-54-135-91.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.91) Robin's lawyer is claiming she has THE MORALS to run the business. Absolutely a joke. Robin ignored the MORALS CLAUSE and a COURT ORDER in Pennsylvania and allowed Victoria to continue competing. (NT) -- No name, 11:51:13 07/17/24 Wed (unn-185-156-46-154.datapacket.com/185.156.46.154) Surprised Robin didn’t get The Chrisleys to vouch for her (NT) -- No name, 13:22:29 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/50.200.174.200) Robin is under no mandated moral clause - and the decisions made regarding the PA issue were not based on morality - they were made based on business legalities and how best to avoid a lawsuit - something any busness owner would have done. (NT) -- No name, 17:44:03 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/172.59.228.160) Can’t get the zoom link to work. Any suggestions? (NT) -- No name, 13:25:52 07/17/24 Wed (syn-024-163-059-002.res.spectrum.com/24.163.59.2) Try again tomorrow. I must have entered the Zoom room too early and forgot about it while in another window, then heard it when the hearing resumed and returned to that window. (NT) -- No name, 19:11:18 07/17/24 Wed (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123) NO ONE can be legally subpeoned to testify to any specific thing. They are subpeoned to testify. What they testify to is the truth. No one can say they "have to" say this or that (NT) -- No name, 14:23:21 07/17/24 Wed (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) You are correct in that they can't be subpoenaed as to WHAT to testify. However, if you read what their "expected testimony" is, Kay is expected to say Robin is doing a great job. So either she (and assumably Jan) are lying to stay in Robin's good graces, or they are idiots to think she's actually done anything but go after her "enemies" and damage MAO. Their self-serving choices may lead to Kay and Jan finding themselves in an uncomfortable spot if things don't go Robin's way. (NT) -- No name, 16:27:17 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/107.127.28.71) Did Kay or Jan testify? (NT) -- No name, 13:29:18 07/19/24 Fri (c-73-56-165-221.hsd1.fl.comcast.net/73.56.165.221) Jan was removed from the list. Kay was not called to testify. (NT) -- No name, 13:58:11 07/19/24 Fri (NoHost/12.233.34.186)

Subject: Forty year later---where are they now?
Author: Fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:28:04 07/09/24 Tue (NoHost/144.92.31.235) For all of those who were not around on this day 40 years ago, July 9, 1984, or wish to see it again, here is the 1984 Miss Universe pageant held in Miami, Florida USA. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w35YG59YK8 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miss_Universe_1984 We know that host Bob Barker died last year (August 26, 2023) at age 99, but where today are the contestants who competed for the coveted crown of Miss Universe 1984 back on July 9, 1984?? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I actually remember this pageant and knew who the winner would be immediately, but I absolutely loved Guatemala that year. (NT) -- No name, 22:40:45 07/09/24 Tue (h116.146.184.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/173.184.146.116) ..I could never understand how Miss Sweden, Yvonne Ryding, could compete in much less win the 1984 Miss Universe title in what looked like a white lace bed-sheet draped around her as an evening gown. She gave Sweden its second Miss Universe victory and she was a lovely lady, but the gown was bizarre. Loved Venezuela, USA, South Africa and Thailand. (NT) -- Love the gown competition songs--- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6nsI9Ecz7E, 18:38:17 07/12/24 Fri (syn-071-013-135-158.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.135.158) Actually, Yvonne Ryding was Sweden's third Miss Universe winner---1955, 1966, and then in 1984. -- Sweden has done well at Miss Universe, but last time in the semi-finals was Renate Cerljen in 2009., 19:10:35 07/12/24 Fri (syn-071-013-135-158.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.135.158) Yvonne was amazing She could have worn anything. But I liked her gown . It was modest (NT) -- No name, 12:31:27 07/13/24 Sat (180.sub-174-193-129.myvzw.com/174.193.129.180) Miss USA, Mai Shanley (Miss New Mexico MAO 1983 and Miss New Mexico-USA 1984) made the top ten of the 1984 Miss Universe pageant held 40 years ago on July 9, 1984. It was interesting how the producers and musical directors incorporated the hit song of that time "All Night Long" with a Miami-themed song to fit the host city that year, Miami, Florida. They don't do pageant telecast shows like that any longer. My favorite Miss Universe show of the 1980s was the 1983 Miss Universe pageant exactly 41 years ago today, July 11, 1983, in Saint Louis, Missouri USA. -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NewQEdUq864, 13:50:37 07/11/24 Thu (syn-047-049-055-214.biz.spectrum.com/47.49.55.214) WV or TN should’ve won. They both would’ve been much more competitive at Miss Universe, then give it to Brenda Denton NM USA in 85. She was better than Laura herring. (NT) -- No name, 16:40:46 07/14/24 Sun (ip68-12-25-18.ok.ok.cox.net/68.12.25.18) She was Laura Herring UNTIL she won Miss USA in May 1985--then suddenly she became Laura Elena Martinez Herring all because they said she was the first Latina or Mexican-American to win Miss USA. (NT) -- Interesting gowns at USA and Universe designed by her state directors GuyRex of a cowgirl style., 17:14:35 07/14/24 Sun (NoHost/12.177.13.34) I remember that but does anyone know why Laura quickly changed her name to Laura Martinez-Herring right after she won Miss USA 1985? -- She won Miss Texas-USA 1985 in July 1984 as Laura Herring., 23:50:21 07/18/24 Thu (syn-071-013-125-008.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.125.8)

Subject: Are contestants encouraged to be for LBGQT
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:26:52 07/18/24 Thu (234.sub-174-193-196.myvzw.com/174.193.196.234) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I would say it depends on your state. In the south, it’s much harder for a girl to be LGBTQ in comparison to somewhere like New York. (NT) -- No name, 14:16:39 07/18/24 Thu (host-177-194.flwgflc.wintergardens.fl.us.clients.pavlovmedia.net/153.33.177.194) I don’t mean if the girl is LBGTQ. I mean if she is for that (NT) -- No name, 15:23:39 07/18/24 Thu (234.sub-174-193-196.myvzw.com/174.193.196.234) Why do you have to be for or against LBGTQ? Why can't we live and let live? (NT) -- No name, 19:09:52 07/18/24 Thu (syn-071-073-192-044.res.spectrum.com/71.73.192.44) Really don't think any contestant is pushed to believe one thing or another. However, contestants need to be able to state their opi ions in a respectful way, if they're going to state them at all, whether it's pro something or anti something (NT) -- No name, 19:52:00 07/18/24 Thu (syn-098-146-192-217.res.spectrum.com/98.146.192.217)

Subject: Regardless of who you are rooting for
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:23:06 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/172.56.165.175) Robin Fleming is NOT the leader we need. So much was uncovered today that goes against this organization and what she has told us. She misrepresented herself. She can’t keep her stories straight Drama swivels around every aspect of her life Her true self came out frequently. I loved when the judge said “Please don’t just keep talking Miss Fleming, I suggest you wait for a question first” Her lawyer is a mess Ryan Brown did Robin no favors She holds everyone responsible but herself Both her & Ryan think MAO wouldn’t survive without them. Please do MAO and us a favor and resign. NO ONE SHOULD LISTEN TO OR GIVE $ to either of them [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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agree (NT) -- No name, 17:26:50 07/18/24 Thu (syn-076-082-048-252.res.spectrum.com/76.82.48.252) When will the judge make the ruling for the interim? (NT) -- No name, 17:41:36 07/18/24 Thu (mobile-166-196-089-065.mycingular.net/166.196.89.65) Is there anywhere where we could read a transcript of these preceedings? (NT) -- No name, 17:42:10 07/18/24 Thu (tor-exit-157.relayon.org/185.220.101.157) Robin Fleming and Joe Biden are rowing the same boat IJS (NT) -- No name, 19:02:10 07/18/24 Thu (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123)

Subject: Shantel made it clear that the MAF has a SOLID CASE! She wanted someone to continue the competition and THE SCHOLARSHIP.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:43:01 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/2.57.169.151) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Yes, this is such a HUGE part of what was revealed. The MAF is absolutely back in the game after this trial. (NT) -- No name, 15:54:32 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/107.115.163.7) Continue scholarship but not obligating MAF to be included (NT) -- No name, 16:07:26 07/18/24 Thu (c-73-74-207-142.hsd1.il.comcast.net/73.74.207.142) MAF AND MAO HAVE A LONG HISTORY, SETTING THE PRECEDENT! And MAF is the trustee of many dollars that are for the benefit of the women. They ARE who should be given control at this point so it can be set straight again. Maybe Mr Straub will find the competition and allow MAF to do what it offered to do for MAO many times… take full responsibility for all the scholarship FUNDRAISING and DISTRIBUTION. Problem solved (NT) -- No name, 17:05:30 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/2.57.169.151)

Subject: Summary of Today: What a Mess!
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:34:51 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/38.172.112.247) I honestly don’t know what to think after the first day of court. I really can’t say where the judge is going to land with his decision. It’s such a mess. Basically what we learned is that there really was no plan when Robin “bought” Miss America. It basically was a word of mouth agreement between Glenn and Robin. Glenn had the money and Robin had the skill to lead it. Glenn says she worked for him, but she didn’t take a salary. She says he was her lender, and that she had a “tab” with him and had an agreement to pay it all back eventually. Sounds like there are lots of fake documents that got created at some point. I do feel bad that Robin basically got scammed in this whole thing. I think she genuinely thought she was/is the owner. But she didn’t have the money and needed Glenn. I’m not sure why a grown adult would think that a verbal business deal would be successful in the long run, especially if you Googled him and saw his track record. My personal leaning is that they have joint ownership. If I were the judge, I’d give them each 50/50 ownership. I know that wouldn’t go well. The only thing they would be able to do would be to sell, like you might do in a divorce. Tomorrow Shantel takes the stand at 9:30am ET. Same Zoom info: https://us02web.zoom.us//88244742921 MEETING ID: 882 4474 2921 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Thank you for the update! I appreciate the information without injecting opinions! (NT) -- No name, 20:06:44 07/17/24 Wed (this-is-a-tor-exit-node-hviv118.hviv.nl/192.42.116.18) I do not know where the narrative got started in all this, that Glenn Straub is anything but what years of public records say he is. Whether or not you support Robin or not, the long term solution is not having a Straub in charge. Robin seems to be much more the victim than the offender here. (NT) -- No name, 20:08:32 07/17/24 Wed (c-75-70-175-167.hsd1.co.comcast.net/75.70.175.167) Robin has known Glenn for years. He was no stranger to her. Who among us wouldn’t clearly access a business transaction before jumping into it? No one. Robin was not scammed. She saw an opportunity to make money and used Glenn’s cash (and bragged to all of us about having enough cash to run MAO for 100 more years). Her actions follow what she has done through all her many careers (NT) -- No name, 20:29:51 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/38.98.217.147) I'm only addressing Straub, based on what we heard today and years of him being a really bad person. (NT) -- No name, 21:10:21 07/17/24 Wed (c-75-70-175-167.hsd1.co.comcast.net/75.70.175.167) Robin is no angel. Ask the USA people & her dress store colleagues/customers (NT) -- No name, 22:05:18 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/38.98.217.147) Poor Robin...my BUTT. She's no victim AT ALL. And if Glenn is so bad, then I would question her judgement. If he's SO bad then her lack of judgement put everyone in a bad spot. So shame on that nasty, vindictive, lying, duplicitous, smug, bitch. (NT) -- No name, 22:46:48 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/134.204.27.246) SHANTEL IS TESTIFYING AT 9:30 ET. ZOOM INFO ABOVE. (NT) -- No name, 09:12:34 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/107.127.28.80) Just curious as to why 50/50? Do not care either way as my child aged out already and I do not volunteer anymore. But she has not invested any money or even paid taxes ( according to testimony). How would someone without any investment get 50%? (NT) -- The whole thing seems strange and I do not know how Miss America was legally sold., 09:30:39 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/107.116.79.123) 50/50...that's just silly. Why don't you go buy a house, I'll claim I actually bought it using your money, then we can fight about it, and then a judge will tell you to just give me half. Does that sound fair to you?? (NT) -- No name, 10:10:55 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/148.173.101.242) Anyone else having trouble getting into the zoom? Stuck on “the meeting host will let you in soon”. -- No name, 10:14:29 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/209.198.16.98) Yes I am having trouble as well. (NT) -- No name, 11:24:25 07/18/24 Thu (syn-024-163-059-002.res.spectrum.com/24.163.59.2) Me too! (NT) -- No name, 11:25:14 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/12.233.34.186) Well it’s clear now why Shantal drove MAO into the ground and “Sold” it to grifters…. I’ve never seen someone so defensive of her failure!!!! She’s clearly trying to cover up her disastrous reign as CEO. She couldn’t even complete a basic sale of a non profit with proper due diligence and contracts. (NT) -- No name, 10:21:38 07/18/24 Thu (c-73-56-165-221.hsd1.fl.comcast.net/73.56.165.221) What Shantel isn’t telling you that a few of MAO’s earlier suitors were excellent choices, but were turned down because they wouldn’t let Shantel continue to run it. Finally when Robin came along the BoD stepped in and said Enough Shantel (NT) -- No name, 11:05:01 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/38.98.217.147) I can name 10 people who would have jumped at the chance to save Miss America, either individually or collectively. These people would not agree to Shantel's demands. Somehow, Robin entered the picture with promises that she could not prove and Shantel, who IMO was exhausted with all the MAO troubles, convinced the board that Robin was the answer. This was an emotional decision, not a business one. Everyone who was involved in this "sale" should be honest with the volunteers across the country, not to mention all the contestants who participated in good faith. There is so much to this story and we are getting a glimpse at the underbelly and it isn't pretty. (NT) -- No name, 11:40:22 07/18/24 Thu (NoHost/50.86.219.105)

Subject: What are everyone’s thoughts on the political stance that women must be modest? Do you think this will end pageants if they are elected? We will all have to support our new leaders once they take control. I feel ending pageantry is a small sacrifice. Of course, pageants have not specifically been mentioned yet, only that women will be required to be modest and godly, but it is just a logical step to ban them once we have the right people in place. Thoughts?.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:49:42 07/16/24 Tue (h38.252.140.67.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/67.140.252.38) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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What?!? (NT) -- Confused, 22:56:17 07/16/24 Tue (NoHost/107.115.239.44) Huh??? What??? (NT) -- No name, 23:10:27 07/16/24 Tue (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) Which idiot politician is promoting such nonsense? Do tell (NT) -- No name, 23:46:02 07/16/24 Tue (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Turn off your computer Project 2025 poster. No one wants to hear from you. You clearly live in a bubble but most Americans do not want to live in Gilead. (NT) -- No name, 23:53:14 07/16/24 Tue (c-98-203-182-214.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/98.203.182.214) Don't turn off your computer! Project 2025 is a 900+ page document of a complete restructuring of our government to a Christian Nationalist state. While you may want to close your eyes- & turn off your computer, to that possibility, we need to fight against a fascist state forming instead. (NT) -- No name, 06:48:56 07/17/24 Wed (static-198-54-135-123.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.123) P25 https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf (NT) -- No name, 22:59:50 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/104.28.116.107)

Subject: MARILYN VAN DERBUR MISS AMERICA 1958
Author: LOVEY HOWELL III [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 17:06:58 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/68.181.60.0) MISS AMERICA 1966 RELECAST [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

Subject: Are miss America contestants encouraged to lean left politically?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 12:31:54 07/16/24 Tue (84.sub-174-193-193.myvzw.com/174.193.193.84) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I actually think contestants in a lot of states leaned conservatively because indicating to open a mind or leniency for “issues” like gay rights could be polarizing. More recently, contestants may seem left-leaning, partially because the right leader is a convicted felon and alleged rapist. Outside of former President Trump, could you imagine a contestant associating herself with either? No way (NT) -- No name, 13:09:54 07/16/24 Tue (NoHost/172.58.167.85) Actually, throughout the 90s, most leaned right. Abstinence only platforms were a dime a dozen. Girls didn't believe in gay marriage (though half the judging panel was usually gay men), many believed in school uniforms and just about every girl in the south "found the Lord" during pageant season (NT) -- No name, 14:33:09 07/16/24 Tue (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Having advised students at a college where the political balance is even, I think more young people are leaning left because they know people who are being affected by conservative politics, even the conservatives among them. Many have friends who are gay or transgendered. They don't like seeing their friends get hurt. Many want to legalize marijuana. Several of my advisees have had abortions, their friends support them. The younger generation will inherit the world; older politicians should be listening. (NT) -- No name, 16:11:40 07/16/24 Tue (syn-071-073-192-160.res.spectrum.com/71.73.192.160) There is no college where the political balance is even. (NT) -- No name, 21:28:05 07/16/24 Tue (c-73-164-155-211.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/73.164.155.211) Most do not have the political climate tilting one way or another. I'm not surprised at the active conservative presence at colleges deemed left-leaning, and visa versa. Many students do not choose a side until their advanced knowledge allows then to make a considered decision. At least that's the mission of higher education. (NT) -- No name, 21:43:28 07/16/24 Tue (syn-071-073-192-044.res.spectrum.com/71.73.192.44) Even if professors lean one way politically, most students in higher education notice that and take note. Like the person above said, most students aren't ready to select a party when they register because they just don't know yet or have enough life experience to understand. It's not the colleges pushing students to lean one way or the other, no matter what you want to belive. Surprise: every public university has to allow free speech demonstrations, no matter what the speech/Demo is about. (NT) -- No name, 14:18:51 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/172.58.30.129) It was always my understanding titleholders should be neutral. (NT) -- No name, 23:06:34 07/16/24 Tue (NoHost/12.97.154.146) Same here. Everyone is entitled to their own beliefs — that’s the beauty of this amazing country! (NT) -- No name, 23:14:35 07/16/24 Tue (67-211-159-149.unassigned.ntelos.net/67.211.159.149) I feel that most of them fear that if they don’t lean left, they will be canceled. I’m sure some naturally tend to lean left through life experiences and personal opinion. But I do know ladies who feel that in certain situations, they don’t feel that they vocalize their opinions honestly due to some people on the left who seek to hurt others that don’t feel the way they do. (NT) -- No name, 14:51:02 07/17/24 Wed (syn-024-163-059-002.res.spectrum.com/24.163.59.2) I think this comes down to being able to express your beliefs in a respectful way, aka interview practice. I've seen girls with pro-police platforms score excellently because they express that they understand the negative experiences with police, and her goal was to bridge the gap. If she had said anyone who doesn't support police is un-American, that would probably rub a lot of people the wrong way. It's all about being professional and respectful! (NT) -- No name, 16:03:37 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/172.58.111.255)

Subject: Wednesday’s trial
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:07:25 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/38.98.217.147) Those watching, please post updates [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Trying to get into the zoom. Has anyone else gotten in? (NT) -- No name, 10:16:10 07/17/24 Wed (c-73-56-165-221.hsd1.fl.comcast.net/73.56.165.221) Tried the link last night and it was registered to the judge in the case Maybe Robin is not back from Europe yet (NT) -- No name, 10:19:28 07/17/24 Wed (ue.tmodns.net/172.56.28.119) I’m in, it’s started (NT) -- No name, 10:24:01 07/17/24 Wed (c-73-56-165-221.hsd1.fl.comcast.net/73.56.165.221) They had $4.16M in debt and sold Miss America for $100. (NT) -- No name, 10:39:05 07/17/24 Wed (static-198-54-135-91.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.91) Straub lent Robin $525,000 under market at 3% to run the org and pay off an SBA loan, without financial disclosure, any collateral or a personal guarantee from Robin. (NT) -- affirmed nothing romantic between the two, 10:44:47 07/17/24 Wed (ns565315.ip-54-39-133.net/54.39.133.108) Judge asked what relief Glenn is seeking. A: turn over of all financial records/access to accounts, remove Robin and Glenn will put someone else in place (NOT himself) to run MA. If I'm missing anything please chime in. (NT) -- No name, 10:53:49 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/148.173.101.246) Robin's lawyer is all over the place. Hard to follow his argument on ownership. Judge can't grasp it either. Lawyer needs to show the documents. (NT) -- No name, 11:38:14 07/17/24 Wed (static-198-54-135-91.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.91) Robin hasn't filed her taxes yet. Asked for an extension. Guessing she doesn't have the money to pay her taxes. (NT) -- No name, 11:42:14 07/17/24 Wed (static-198-54-135-91.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.91) Judge is asking again about their taxes. The EIN is registered to Glenn. (NT) -- No name, 11:52:40 07/17/24 Wed (ns565314.ip-54-39-133.net/54.39.133.107) The judge is asking that the attorney's meet and provide him with what they agree on already. He's trying to make sense of Robin's lawyers soup of dates, agreements, etc. (NT) -- broke for lunch until 1:15, 11:59:23 07/17/24 Wed (unn-185-156-46-167.datapacket.com/185.156.46.167) Seemed like the only thing the lawyers agreed on is that they disagree. RECONVENING AT 1:15 ET (NT) -- No name, 12:32:47 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/148.173.101.246) She never paid her taxes, but she has just returned from a long European vacation with her children. (NT) -- No name, 12:38:35 07/17/24 Wed (c-68-81-104-142.hsd1.pa.comcast.net/68.81.104.142) See you have no idea what you’re talking g about. She was in Brazil. -- Na, 13:26:22 07/17/24 Wed (mobile-166-196-103-090.mycingular.net/166.196.103.90) 🤣 interesting you didn’t correct the NOT PAYING HER TAXES part (NT) -- No name, 13:43:38 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/50.200.174.200) Just because someone asked for an extension for their taxes doesn’t mean they can’t pay or are a criminal -- Na, 14:02:30 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/172.56.33.10) Wait! Clear this up for us! Robin just announced today in court that she hadn’t paid her taxes?!?! Yeep! (NT) -- No name, 14:51:31 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/38.98.217.147) Any updates post lunch? (NT) -- No name, 13:26:30 07/17/24 Wed (syn-024-163-059-002.res.spectrum.com/24.163.59.2) Afternoon updates? (NT) -- No name, 14:46:52 07/17/24 Wed (syn-024-183-171-111.res.spectrum.com/24.183.171.111)

Subject: what state’s are the best to compete in?
Author: n/a [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:00:49 06/30/24 Sun (173-27-77-79.client.mchsi.com/173.27.77.79) Curious about state reputations as far as competing as a contestant (miss). Would love to hear any and all stories, suggestions, advice, etc. regarding this! disclaimer: I am aware of the MAO rules regarding eligibility, but am just curious about each state!! Thanks in advance [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I would avoid PA at all costs from what I’ve been hearing… jeez the amount of girls that didn’t return after last year’s debacle…. not to mention what happened this year (NT) -- No name, 23:33:54 06/30/24 Sun (24.dallas-33rh15-16rt.tx.dial-access.att.net/12.74.238.24) Which states are the best to compete in? (NT) -- No name, 01:18:15 07/01/24 Mon (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) what happened last year??? (NT) -- No name, 03:28:27 07/01/24 Mon (syn-074-142-069-147.biz.spectrum.com/74.142.69.147) What debacle happened last year at PA? (NT) -- No name, 12:03:40 07/01/24 Mon (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) There’s a thread below that has more info (NT) -- No name, 15:53:11 07/03/24 Wed (mobile-166-196-103-010.mycingular.net/166.196.103.10) I have heard that Colorado is a mess, would definitely avoid. (NT) -- No name, 00:03:31 07/01/24 Mon (NoHost/162.255.45.106) Can confirm -- lol, 21:11:04 07/01/24 Mon (c-107-2-183-252.hsd1.co.comcast.net/107.2.183.252) Can confirm. Colorado went from one shit show board to another just in a prettier facade this time. They don’t pay out scholarship money, they treat contestants like shit, they’re making contestants pay for their own mics this year. They’re sending out emails begging for gas money for the current Miss CO because they have nothing. They hired the worst Miss Colorado in history, Savannah, to be on the board because of her daddy’s money. Honestly they have a Miss America by sheer luck and Marsh being her incredible self, her accomplishment is in spite of the state. -- lol, 21:18:31 07/01/24 Mon (c-107-2-183-252.hsd1.co.comcast.net/107.2.183.252) To piggy back off this, the new board is being extremely shady with favoritism. They’re making girls submit all appearances with no guidelines on what will or won’t get approved, so they can let their favorite girls do appearances and deny others. They picked the girl’s lineup spots behind closed doors so they can give certain girls better lineup spots. Don’t be surprised in 2 weeks when the talk of this forum is about the winner being a board favorite. (NT) -- No name, 21:57:42 07/01/24 Mon (NoHost/64.40.156.130) So who's the board favorite? (NT) -- No name, 18:39:29 07/02/24 Tue (NoHost/139.71.144.6) From what I have heard, the board does not like any sort of pushback so I’m sure they’ll crown a new girl that doesn’t know any better so that they can push her around easily. & definitely someone with money. (NT) -- No name, 11:51:45 07/03/24 Wed (NoHost/46.37.116.102) If they crown any of the new girls they will be chapping at Miss America, that’s for sure. (NT) -- No name, 15:55:39 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/192.119.160.88) Who is the board favorite that is “supposed” to win? (NT) -- No name, 19:26:25 07/02/24 Tue (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) Nowhere did they say anyone is supposed to win, just that the winner will probably be a board favorite. (NT) -- No name, 15:30:34 07/03/24 Wed (NoHost/107.123.1.128) Madison's accomplishment "in spite of the state"? You obviously didn't see her look (hair, wardrobe, makeup etc.) when she won vs.at Miss America. At state her talent had as much emotion as I put into reading an insurance policy. Even her interview was very dry/stilted. She couldn't answer questions in her mock interviews that weren't "on topic" (her mom, the military, her social impact). Considering how much she was unavailable to state leadership it's amazing how much they were able to polish. Obviously she's smart and they weren't starting from scratch, but to make it sound like she pulled that off on her own or "in spite of the state" is just disingenuous. (NT) -- No name, 17:42:37 07/02/24 Tue (NoHost/139.71.144.6) You obviously have no idea what you’re talking about. Marsh thrived thanks to all of her coaches and outside help. The Colorado board was awful to her. So awful to her and other contestants in fact that they were ousted and replaced. Imagine the embarrassment of being thrown out because you couldn’t even support your girl who was good enough to win Miss America. Mette was caught talking shit about Marsh to other state directors the NIGHT BEFORE she won Miss America, which was reported. Don’t get it twisted in thinking they cared about her or helped her at all, all they did was whine and complain while they had the perfect girl in their hands. -- No name, 08:43:09 07/03/24 Wed (c-107-2-183-252.hsd1.co.comcast.net/107.2.183.252) Yes it’s very clear that Mette is the one posting on here like the messages above bc who else would have all that info to get on here and list everything that was done to “help” her. Face it the jig is up and you got caught. Hopefully some other states are next bc CO wasn’t the only state this behavior has been occurring in. (NT) -- No name, 12:50:02 07/03/24 Wed (NoHost/172.56.65.3) All the info? Really? All anyone had to do was see Madison's own posts to see her look. And if you were in the audience you saw her talent. It's obvious that they polished her look and worked on her talent. And you do realize that there were mock judges for mock interviews - so... It's not exactly rocket science to see what they did. (NT) -- No name, 13:40:53 07/03/24 Wed (NoHost/139.71.144.2) That's just stupid. They supported her 100% and even put up with a lot of things that a lot of other states would never have tolerated. Starting with Madison taking a month long European vacation with her boyfriend just days after she was crowned. They supported her 100% even after she had a meltdown out of nowhere a week before she left for Orlando. I talked to Mette at Miss America - she didn't bash Madison - she and the rest of the board were confused as to why Madison had had such a change in personality right before she left. They supported her and your story is just false. I would not be surprised if a lot comes out about how Robin treated the old board over the next few months. (NT) -- No name, 12:52:57 07/03/24 Wed (NoHost/139.71.144.2) While Madison is a great Miss America, Sarah has been a far better Miss Colorado. The weeks long trip to Europe is true, but the board and the judges and everyone knew she’d be moving to Harvard for the year if she won. They should not pick girls that aren’t available to serve the state: (NT) -- No name, 14:05:17 07/03/24 Wed (NoHost/46.37.116.101) Well guess what? That isn't a rule. If it were a rule, then any girl who attends college out of state would be automatically disqualified (NT) -- No name, 16:14:46 07/12/24 Fri (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) But here you are shit talking Madison on the Voy Boards... (NT) -- No name, 21:52:40 07/03/24 Wed (static-198-54-135-59.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.59) Right..Like how would anyone know any of this? That’s what not rocket science to figure out…Also “confused as to why she had had a change in personality” meaning yes she was talking about her titleholder to others in a way that was not positive, which is wrong and an example of why she was fired as a state director. Directors have no business gossiping about their titleholders. (NT) -- No name, 01:04:44 07/04/24 Thu (NoHost/172.56.65.3) Yes the old Colorado leadership was bad, unfortunately Robin replaced bad with worse. (NT) -- No name, 01:59:39 07/04/24 Thu (NoHost/107.123.1.128) That makes me so sad. What a shame that Colorado is in such bad hands. (NT) -- No name, 23:07:38 07/06/24 Sat (NoHost/64.40.156.133) Why is this board so bad? (NT) -- No name, 21:06:54 07/12/24 Fri (NoHost/172.56.64.225) Colorado’s new board is embarrassing. I have heard nothing but bad things from the girls competing. (NT) -- No name, 14:32:55 07/05/24 Fri (NoHost/64.40.156.139) The new board could not possibly be any less clear about their favoritism. The candidate lineup was picked behind closed doors, obviously picked by the board to give their favorites better placements and girls they don’t like bad placements. They are requiring all girls to submit appearances with no written guidelines so that they can deny appearances for one girl but approve that same appearance for one of their favorites. They were going to allow the current Miss Colorado Volunteer to compete by bending the eligibility rules and keeping her candidacy a secret until after volunteer nationals. There is no integrity in this organization and it will absolutely show in their winner next weekend. (NT) -- No name, 15:48:46 07/05/24 Fri (NoHost/103.111.32.202) The current Miss Colorado Volunteer is not competing. They have already posted all of their delegates on social media. She is not one of them (NT) -- No name, 16:17:35 07/05/24 Fri (NoHost/172.58.57.140) She is on the lineup that the candidates were given but dropped out. Does not change the fact that the board was going to let it happen. (NT) -- No name, 16:41:00 07/05/24 Fri (NoHost/64.40.156.133) Not to mention the shady happenings with the new Miss Colorado Sarah. She apparently said she’d only take over the title (she was first ru) if she could sign a contract so she could compete again. Apparently being Miss Colorado once isn’t enough for her. She wants a full year and a half and a Miss America run. As far as I’m aware this has never been allowed before but they signed a deal with her to let her compete and hold the title again. The new board is just as shady as the old. Sarah is dating a board members daughter so of course they signed a deal to let her compete again. Just another example of their blatant favoritism. -- No name, 23:23:42 07/09/24 Tue (c-107-2-183-252.hsd1.co.comcast.net/107.2.183.252) There have been multiple 1RU who assume the title when the state titleholder wins Miss America and then recompete, so I would suggest you check yourself before you claim it’s shady for the 19 year old to want to compete again. She has at least been doing a great job as a titleholder - the teen seems to be mentally checked out and the organization is a mess. (NT) -- No name, 23:46:34 07/09/24 Tue (NoHost/194.195.93.54) Plenty of people think Sarah’s 6 months is enough. (NT) -- No name, 00:19:51 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/192.119.164.45) A few of these girls got more time than they should ve….they need to bring back the old board…at leastthey had class and knew how to put a titleholder together (if she listened)…..they did well with what they had, (NT) -- No name, 01:02:11 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/185.187.243.219) Slight correction: she is dating not just "a board member's" son - she's dating the Executive Director's son. (NT) -- No name, 23:58:31 07/09/24 Tue (174-16-132-156.hlrn.qwest.net/174.16.132.156) I wish Swift was dating a woman, but she’s not dating anyone’s daughter. LOL. There are many shady dealings but the runner-up taking the title is not one of them. (NT) -- No name, 23:59:22 07/09/24 Tue (c-67-165-241-15.hsd1.co.comcast.net/67.165.241.15) This is such an incredibly hot take!! She's 20 of course she wants a chance to compete again. You can tell her love for this position through her social media and how much passion she has, I hope she's able to have another year. She's doing great things for Colorado, a state that was previously falling apart. Also from one look at her socials it looks like she became Miss Colorado before the new board was even announced... (NT) -- No name, 00:22:22 07/10/24 Wed (ip68-2-119-103.ph.ph.cox.net/68.2.119.103) It would seem as though the state is still falling apart; not previously falling apart. (NT) -- No name, 01:53:08 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/184.174.5.188) Uhh, are you new to the MAO??? Most state 1st RUs who take over as the state titleholder after Miss America end up competing again. This literally happens all the time. The contract only states that a girl cannot compete at Miss America twice, not that she can't be a state titleholder twice. They did not change the contract for her. That's been the rule for ages. It's not exclusive to CO (NT) -- No name, 15:19:05 07/12/24 Fri (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) What are the eligibility rules? Is it different for each state or the same? (NT) -- No name, 01:17:03 07/01/24 Mon (46-135-68-38.clients.gthost.com/38.68.135.46) The question is… Which states are the best to compete in? Can anyone answer that? (NT) -- No name, 01:22:03 07/01/24 Mon (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) The best way to tell would be to look at the rate of returning girls, and compare that to how much they award in scholarships, along with how well they generally do at Miss America. As far as returning rates, VT has been pretty consistently the same bunch for the past few years, and they have a lot of former teens competing. (NT) -- No name, 05:49:54 07/01/24 Mon (host-177-194.flwgflc.wintergardens.fl.us.clients.pavlovmedia.net/153.33.177.194) TBH probably Florida (NT) -- No name, 22:59:35 07/03/24 Wed (c-73-244-218-159.hsd1.fl.comcast.net/73.244.218.159) The state that sent their Executive Director to prison??? You must be joking?!? (NT) -- No name, 15:23:01 07/12/24 Fri (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) That was 6 years ago! The board took the correct actions against her, volunteers and directors alike are respected and the overall program is quite successful and enjoyed by those who participate. (NT) -- No name, 16:38:17 07/12/24 Fri (151.sub-174-212-42.myvzw.com/174.212.42.151) Who taught you math? Mary went to prison 2-3 years ago (NT) -- No name, 10:57:14 07/13/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Mary was fired the night Taylor Tyson was crowned Miss Florida in June 2018. So Mary has not been associated with the Miss Florida organization for 6 years. Building a case and bringing that case to trial takes years, thus the reason she wasn’t arrested until 2022 and sentenced in 2023. My math, my facts and my statement are all correct. (NT) -- No name, 16:18:14 07/13/24 Sat (108.sub-174-212-41.myvzw.com/174.212.41.108) Ohhhh okay, so it only counts from when she was fired not when she was sent to prison, even though the post you're responding to specifically says their ED was SENT TO PRISON. It does not say their ED was fired. She was sent to prison for crimes committed WHILE she was the Miss FL ED (NT) -- No name, 14:06:59 07/14/24 Sun (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Let’s be logical. The OP was asking what are good states to participate in. The response to that was Florida. You then tried to besmudge a state organization for a director, who acting alone, committed crimes against the organization. When those crimes came to light SIX years ago, the board of the organization forced her out. The Florida organization took direct action to oust her, assisted in having criminal charges brought against her and has run the organization in a credible manner. The Florida organization is respectable and the participants enjoy their time competing. If the organization had not taken action, then Florida would be a state to not participate in but they handled the situation correctly and are respectable because of it. (NT) -- No name, 14:43:13 07/14/24 Sun (11.sub-174-212-33.myvzw.com/174.212.33.11) There's very little about FL that makes it a competitor-friendly state (NT) -- No name, 16:07:31 07/14/24 Sun (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Sure… (NT) -- No name, 17:06:44 07/14/24 Sun (151.sub-174-212-42.myvzw.com/174.212.42.151) I mean, this is subjective. If we are talking scholarships, then Miss NH seems like a great one. (NT) -- No name, 09:23:21 07/01/24 Mon (212-135-68-38.clients.gthost.com/38.68.135.212) Indiana — fantastic directors, great camaraderie among the girls, lots of contestants return year after year and formers are supportive (NT) -- No name, 12:29:44 07/01/24 Mon (75-98-182-189.dhcp.adams.net/75.98.182.189) I agree. But it is a hard state to win! (NT) -- No Name, 12:53:16 07/01/24 Mon (syn-047-231-178-134.res.spectrum.com/47.231.178.134) Washington. Without question. Their directors all collaborate to put on their open program. Their director and team are kind, dedicated and do all they can to support every woman who competes. One of their locals gives more than any other in the nation. (NT) -- No name, 16:47:58 07/01/24 Mon (syn-172-088-249-138.res.spectrum.com/172.88.249.138) How much money do they give? A NH local is giving out $70k (NT) -- No name, 17:10:27 07/01/24 Mon (NoHost/107.123.1.1) WA local Miss Tri-Cities gives out over $30k in CASH scholarships, not in kind. The local winner gets 10k normally (NT) -- No name, 15:52:36 07/05/24 Fri (syn-096-041-213-050.res.spectrum.com/96.41.213.50) NH definitely has any other state beat as far as scholarships awarded. Two NH locals give their winners $20k or more each year in cash scholarship. Others give between $5k-10k at minimum. An incredible opportunity for those girls!! (NT) -- No name, 21:57:43 07/14/24 Sun (c-73-143-86-116.hsd1.nh.comcast.net/73.143.86.116) Washington is INCREDIBLE! Local directors support ALL the girls, State directors genuinely love and care for the young women. (NT) -- No name, 13:33:43 07/03/24 Wed (c-76-28-186-204.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/76.28.186.204) There is definitely a lot of love in WA! (NT) -- No name, 15:56:57 07/05/24 Fri (syn-096-041-213-050.res.spectrum.com/96.41.213.50) The locals in WA are what make this organization so special. Girls compete in local after local every season because they view working with these boards as part of their prize package. (NT) -- No name, 17:43:16 07/08/24 Mon (c-76-121-17-200.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/76.121.17.200) WA girls tend to thrive in other states and place at MA, but the WA winner doesn't. Maybe it's time for more open younger leadership to continue taking up more space? At least in terms of Miss A prep. But they have seemed to be evolving and giving the girls more freedom and less stuffy clothing requirements so that is a step!! (NT) -- No name, 15:55:30 07/05/24 Fri (syn-096-041-213-050.res.spectrum.com/96.41.213.50) Or in other systems in WA. All of the Miss Washington Volunteer winners have been former top at Washington MAO and the current titleholder was Miss Washington and she placed at volunteer america (NT) -- No name, 00:09:38 07/06/24 Sat (syn-098-146-192-217.res.spectrum.com/98.146.192.217) Interesting take. They've had 2 MATeens in the last 5 years and many many Top 5 placements at Miss A. Regardless, their local and state orgs have the best intentions and work hard to support each other. (NT) -- No name, 23:02:18 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/74.122.140.14) Avoid VA. They’re always having shady things happen, even at locals. -- No Name, 22:00:51 07/01/24 Mon (ip68-225-137-93.nc.hr.cox.net/68.225.137.93) Would love to know more about this as someone who competed in a local in VA (did not win). (NT) -- No name, 22:27:42 07/01/24 Mon (as5800-82-129.access.naxs.com/216.98.82.129) Field Directors not being present at locals, locals not following rules, board members helping certain contestants with their paperwork, a judge being related to one of the contestants. The list goes on. -- No name, 22:35:16 07/01/24 Mon (ip68-225-137-93.nc.hr.cox.net/68.225.137.93) Avoid Oklahoma! (NT) -- No name, 21:35:29 07/08/24 Mon (ec2-52-47-101-39.eu-west-3.compute.amazonaws.com/52.47.101.39) Utah is amazing! The board (both Miss and Teen) is fair and genuinely cares about ensuring that all contestants have a great experience. They are also very good to and appreciate of local volunteers, always open and willing to help when needed. (NT) -- No name, 16:10:00 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/65.49.97.151) Never count out South Dakota. The loyalty with that program from formers is bonkers! (NT) -- No name, 15:18:41 07/12/24 Fri (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) Why is it bonkers to you? (NT) -- No name, 16:21:35 07/12/24 Fri (88.sub-174-218-222.myvzw.com/174.218.222.88) Why are people even answering this-----just giving this person who is or knows a pageant contestant border-hopper options where to just move and compete in some other "easier"' but well-established and organized state pageant. One noted Utah here on July 8----as if that -- state wants another Noelia to move and leave with the Utah state title when its convenient?, 18:28:19 07/12/24 Fri (syn-071-013-135-158.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.135.158) Who cares. Girls move all the time for work, school etc. If they want to try their chances in other states, so be it. Maybe those states should have stronger girls. (NT) -- No name, 22:12:24 07/12/24 Fri (139-134-68-38.clients.gthost.com/38.68.134.139) If you think Utah is easier to compete in you don't have a clue. The level of talent in Utah is crazy and there are almost always 50+ contestants. The new Miss D.C. competed in Utah for several years before moving to D.C. and winning her first time competing there. (NT) -- No name, 14:54:58 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/65.49.97.151) I posted this to just learn more about other states. I will not, and never intended to, move to other states to compete. Hence why I have a disclaimer! Thanks for all the info everyone. (NT) -- No name, 03:32:14 07/14/24 Sun (173-27-77-79.client.mchsi.com/173.27.77.79) That is ok, but I am like the person above, why provide best states to compete in---if--if----your or anyone just want to move for a win while knowing its a great state pageant program. And yes, you provided a disclaimer--------- disclaimer: I am aware of the MAO rules regarding eligibility, I am just curious about each state!! -- you did not rule out saying if you are now or will not ever be a contestant, 15:48:16 07/14/24 Sun (NoHost/12.177.13.34) Literally who cares???? As long as girls follow the girls, people need to stop being all hot and bothered by where they compete (NT) -- No name, 16:23:58 07/14/24 Sun (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) What is the big deal about that? (NT) -- No name, 16:49:34 07/14/24 Sun (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) lol, because I knew people would actually respond to the post with that subject line. Other times I have posted and no one responds so it gets removed. It’s really not a big deal lol (NT) -- No name, 15:51:03 07/15/24 Mon (173-27-77-79.client.mchsi.com/173.27.77.79) Avoid DC. Clear leadership issues with board (we even so it play out here), the pageant production was pitiful, pageant books were paid for with tickets and never received. 1 month ago crowned Miss DC but no mention of a a teen titleholder (NT) -- No name, 01:04:43 07/17/24 Wed (NoHost/104.28.76.230)

Subject: What state orgs have great relationships with Local Orgs?
Author: Just curious [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 10:21:06 07/16/24 Tue (160-3-220-155.cpe.sparklight.net/160.3.220.155) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Washington. Ask anyone from there. Even when there are issues (it's never perfect), the Locals Association knows how to give feedback to State. And State just sent a feedback form a few days after pageant week. They are open to listening at least. We had record numbers of Teen and Miss at state this year. (NT) -- No name, 14:29:48 07/16/24 Tue (185.sub-174-215-120.myvzw.com/174.215.120.185) Didn't they have over 30 Miss a few years ago and only had 26 this year? The open sweeper also didn't award all 8 titles this year. However, washington is the only state I've seen with a strong locals association! Definitely says something about the great relationship between locals and states (NT) -- No name, 17:36:04 07/16/24 Tue (NoHost/172.56.200.95) In 2018 there were 25 candidates for Miss. Maybe there were 30 during Covid? I know a bunch of extra titles were given out b/c there was no open/sweeper that year (NT) -- No name, 19:43:36 07/16/24 Tue (c-76-28-186-204.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/76.28.186.204)

Subject: Talk of Miss America all you want but when is the Boardwalk Parade and I think some formers who may reason this realize that was a big part of the Miss America experience. Although I could be wrong. Have it in a hotel ballroom. Might be the same.
Author: d... [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:49:15 07/15/24 Mon (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Read not reason. (NT) -- d..., 18:52:34 07/15/24 Mon (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92) It would be amazing to do the parade at Universal Studios. It could even be on the outside dining area at a specific time, and end right in front of the Hard Rock. (NT) -- Someone make that happen, please, 12:00:20 07/16/24 Tue (tor-exit-33.for-privacy.net/185.220.101.33) Are any former state contestants on here? (NT) -- d..., 16:35:54 07/16/24 Tue (75.97.137.92.res-cmts.sewb.ptd.net/75.97.137.92)

Subject: WA INTERVIEW LOOKS
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 04:03:31 07/05/24 Fri (syn-096-041-213-050.res.spectrum.com/96.41.213.50) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Very nice. Thanks for sharing. (NT) -- No name, 13:32:55 07/05/24 Fri (NoHost/157.230.82.214) Does anyone have the names? (NT) -- No name, 01:28:21 07/06/24 Sat (140.sub-174-193-195.myvzw.com/174.193.195.140) Which one is Hermona, the new Miss Washington? If it were based on strictly appearance there is ONE clear winner in this bunch in terms of looks and presentation. With a few runner ups. I know it is not judged on just appearance. (NT) -- No name, 14:29:43 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/69.214.90.25) Bottom row, second from right--with the beautiful curls (NT) -- No name, 14:48:15 07/07/24 Sun (c-76-28-186-204.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/76.28.186.204) I assume you're talking about the blonde one the bottom row in black & white pants outfit. She is a clear standout in looks/styling. Who is she? Did she make top 10/place? What is her talent? (NT) -- No name, 16:55:51 07/07/24 Sun (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) Her name is Reagan Rebstock and she was 4RU. Previously Miss WA Volunteer. (NT) -- No name, 18:50:14 07/07/24 Sun (c-76-28-186-204.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/76.28.186.204) I like the pantsuits. They are what a young girl would actually inter view in for a job. (NT) -- The only thing I would avoid is white., 18:20:28 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/107.116.79.56) Who is the brunette in the yellow? She is the standout for me. (NT) -- How did she do?, 19:01:19 07/07/24 Sun (162-204-108-238.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/162.204.108.238) Amber Pike--1RU this year and last year (NT) -- No name, 20:37:43 07/07/24 Sun (c-76-28-186-204.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/76.28.186.204) standouts top row in Lavendar and second row in yellow and third row black and white outfit and white pantsuit (NT) -- No name, 19:55:06 07/07/24 Sun (syn-076-082-048-252.res.spectrum.com/76.82.48.252) Top - Adriana Fachiol (didn't place), Yellow - Amber Pike 1RU, B/W - Reagan Rebstock 4RU (NT) -- No name, 20:40:14 07/07/24 Sun (c-76-28-186-204.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/76.28.186.204) I made the comment about the one who stuck out in looks and presentation and yes was talking about the girl in Black and White. Winner also looks very strong in terms of appearance. Good luck to her!!. (NT) -- No name, 08:27:23 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/69.214.90.25) 2nd row first pic is appropriate-the others I would score low on -- No name, 22:28:00 07/08/24 Mon (syn-068-117-214-093.res.spectrum.com/68.117.214.93) Some very pretty young women. My eyes were immediately drawn to the black top/white pants and also the one next to her in all white -- that girl just has a welcoming, but in charge, look -- great job!! -- Another state, 12:23:11 07/09/24 Tue (ip68-97-244-135.ok.ok.cox.net/68.97.244.135) I was so taken with the black top/white pants I didn't even notice the all white next to her. (NT) -- I wonder how the black top/white pants fared?, 12:33:39 07/09/24 Tue (syn-192-181-132-150.res.spectrum.com/192.181.132.150) It is posted up above. Black top/white pants was 4RU (NT) -- No name, 13:30:08 07/09/24 Tue (c-76-28-186-204.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/76.28.186.204) This is only 18 out of 26 contestants...too bad there aren't the remainder of looks! (NT) -- No name, 23:20:58 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/74.122.140.14)

Subject: MISS AMERICA’S TEEN TALENTS. Update #1: As of 14 July 2024.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:31:29 07/14/24 Sun (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) MISS AMERICA’S TEEN TALENTS. Update #1: As of 14 July 2024. 1. Alabama: Ali Mims -- Opera: Lyric-Soprano – “O mio babbino caro” from Puccini’s Gianni Schicchi 2. Alaska: Meghan Paige Roth -- Lyrical Dance – “Dandelions” by Ruth B 3. Arizona: Vianah Rose Bradt -- Dance --???? 4. Arkansas: Peyton Nicole Bolling – Jazz Dance -- “Man of La Mancha (I, Don Quixote)” from “Man of La Mancha” 5. California: Keira Elizabeth Bixler -- Ballet en Pointe -- “Big Noise from Winnetka” by Gene Krupa 6. Colorado: 7. Connecticut; Camryn Elyse Patton -- Dance -- ???? 8. Delaware: Gabrielle Morgan -- Musical Theatre Lyrical Dance -- ???? 9. District of Columbia: 10. Florida: Ireland Harkins -- Tap Dance – “Ophelia” by The Lumineers 11. Georgia: Carrington Elan Manous -- Lyrical Dance – “I Don’t Know My Own Strength” by Whitney Houston 12. Hawaii: Nicole Taylor McCain -- Lyrical Dance – “Defying Gravity” from “Wicked” 13. Idaho: BrekLynn Pancheri -- Dance -- ???? 14. Illinois: Lucy Kuelper – Vocal -- ???? 15. Indiana: Bella Bauer -- Lyrical Dance -- ???? 16. Iowa: Avery Bradley – Dance – “Voice of God” by David Bowe (not to be confused with David Bowie) 17. Kansas: Averie Mountain -- Cinema Lyrical – “Friend Like Me” from “Aladdin” 18. Kentucky: Mallory Jones – Vocal -- ???? 19. Louisiana: Melissa Le – Piano -- Hungarian Rhapsody by Franz Liszt 20. Maine: Eva Antonia Benjamin – Vocal – “Aleluya (En La Tierra)” by Elevation Worship 21. Maryland: Zoe Zuzak -- Dance -- ???? 22. Massachusetts: Margaret (Maggie) Leighton – Vocal -- “Livin’ On a Prayer” by Bon-Jovi 23. Michigan: Isabelle Lorraine Musk -- Contemporary Dance – “This Version of Me” by ODESZA 24. Minnesota: Brynn Marie Olson -- Jazz Dance -- “Tough Lover” by Etta James or Christina Aguilera. 25. Mississippi: Brooke Elizabeth Bumgarner – Vocal – “Somewhere Over the Rainbow” from “The Wizard of Oz” 26. Missouri: Bridget Caldwell -- Tap Dance – “I Got You (I Feel Good)” by James Brown 27. Montana: Emma McPherson – Dance -- ???? 28. Nebraska: Janae Harris -- Dance -- ???? 29. Nevada: Ava Ilitchev -- Lyrical Dance -- ???? 30. New Hampshire: Kylie Laroche – Lyrical Dance – “Wind Beneath My Wings” by Bette Midler. 31. New Jersey: Abigail Mignucci – Vocal – “The Life I've Never Led” from “Sister Act: The Musical” 32. New Mexico: Grace Marie Evans -- Dance -- ???? 33. New York: Erica Parks – Tap Dance – “Show Me How You Burlesque” from “Burlesque” 34. North Carolina: Kamryn Hollowell -- Clogging – “The Devil Went Down to Georgia” by The Charlie Daniels Band 35. North Dakota: Taylor Christianson -- Ballet en Pointe – “La Esmeralda” (Tambourine Variation) by Jules Perrot 36. Ohio: Allie Gray -- Sign Language -- ???? 37. Oklahoma: Kynlee Schultheis -- Ballet en Pointe -- ???? 38. Oregon: Kendyl-Rae Bartz -- Ventriloquism – “Anything You Can Do (I Can Do Better)” from “Annie Get Your Gun” (Dummy’s name is Sarah) 39. Pennsylvania: Arianna Spurlin -- Tap Dance – “Wings” by Little Mix 40. Puerto Rico: 41. Rhode Island: Payton Blair Mays -- Vocal – “Reflection” from “Mulan” 42. South Carolina: Mary Elle Marchant – Musical Theatre Lyrical Dance – “I Hope I Get It” from “A Chorus Line” 43. South Dakota: Briley Hope Steffensen – Theatre Acro-Dance – “Don’t Lose Ur Head” from “SIX” 44. Tennessee: Leela Kate Beaty -- Dance -- ???? 45. Texas: Macie Grace Krause -- Dance -- ???? 46. Utah: Kira Gardner -- Lyrical Dance – “I Don’t Think About You” by Kelly Clarkson 47. Vermont: Charlee Royer -- Cinema Lyrical Dance – “The Rose” by Bette Midler. 48. Virginia: Cassidy Nicole Lee – Musical Theatre Lyrical Dance -- ???? 49. Washington: Emma Adams – Piano -- “Bohemian Rhapsody” by Queen 50. West Virginia: Demi Delaney Breeden -- Jazz Dance --FOREVER COUNTRY MEDLEY — “Take Me Home, Country Roads” by John Denver / “I Will Always Love You” by Dolly Parton or Whitney Houston 51. Wisconsin: Ella Bey -- Lyrical Dance -- “Stay” by Rhianna featuring Mikky Ekko 52. Wyoming: Carlyn Grace Murray -- Irish Fusion Dance – “Faith” by George Michael These are the TEEN talents performed at state. Please reply with any new input, talent changes for nationals, or any corrections. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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6. Colorado: Maddie Coombes – Lyrical Dance -- ???? Does anyone know the name of the song she danced to? (NT) -- No name, 19:53:20 07/15/24 Mon (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73)

Subject: How do state organizations feel about the new national ruling that you can only purchase you Miss America gown from a local sponsor or from Henri's? Does this apply to locals who have used Regalia in the past?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:33:14 07/12/24 Fri (206.sub-174-196-193.myvzw.com/174.196.193.206) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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A local sponsor can be anyone. If they give you a discount that can be a sponsorhip. (NT) -- No name, 15:53:47 07/12/24 Fri (75-144-226-226-Tallahassee.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/75.144.226.226) It's sad because states have cultivated long standing relationships with gown stores, some of which just happen to be out of state. (NT) -- No name, 16:20:14 07/12/24 Fri (NoHost/76.159.17.35) Yes, Regalia is now off limits. Ask Robin about this. Even though she has been out of the dress business for years, why is she still vengeful to businesses that did better than her? (NT) -- No name, 19:26:46 07/12/24 Fri (NoHost/192.68.164.210) What is the beef that she has with Regalia? (NT) -- No name, 07:31:15 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/75.43.50.248) Is this real?! That’s absolutely ridiculous! What about the girls who want to purchase customs? That’s absurd. (NT) -- No name, 19:34:26 07/12/24 Fri (pool-108-48-193-216.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.48.193.216) Hard to pass up on a $3000 discount from Henri's (NT) -- No name, 22:51:58 07/12/24 Fri (NoHost/104.28.116.90) Not everyone can afford THOUSANDS for a gown each year. Another sign that Robin only wants girls with $$$$ (NT) -- No name, 07:43:07 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/45.13.235.97) Well, if a girl finds a $3100 dress, it will cost her $100. My girl would have loved a brand new dress for that. (NT) -- No name, 10:02:34 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/104.28.116.108) I never could find a dress under 5K there! LOL (NT) -- No name, 13:09:31 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/167.160.88.98) The MAO is now a for-profit business and the owner has every right to make decisions based on profitability. It is a jarring change in direction, that some are finding hard to navigate. To those, I suggest turning your buggy around and fleeing the money mill as fast as you can pedal. (NT) -- No name, 19:29:23 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/172.59.72.38) what a insane rule Ladies should be free to shop where they wish How does she get away with this nonsense (NT) -- No name, 01:04:36 07/13/24 Sat (syn-076-082-048-252.res.spectrum.com/76.82.48.252) Come 7/19, Robin will no longer be involved with MAO in any way, shape or form once the restraining order goes through. Unless MSO is fully paying for the gown and wardrobe, they can't tell me where to shop. I'd never shop at Henri's. It's a crooked business. (NT) -- No name, 07:46:08 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/37.120.202.186) Totally agree! Have had a couple BAD experiences with Henry's. Will NOT get my gown there. (NT) -- No name, 08:45:20 07/13/24 Sat (136-32-197-127.googlefiber.net/136.32.197.127) Robin runs her businesses on who she can line her pockets with and with who is out to destroy. Let's all pray her reign ends next week. (NT) -- No name, 10:47:13 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/192.68.164.210) It's becoming more clearer this woman is a straight up Villain. These poor states and their titleholders. I am speechless. (NT) -- No name, 12:37:50 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/45.83.89.174) Wait, if I am understanding this correctly, we have to buy our gowns from Henri's? Are they offering us 75%+ off cause I sure as heck can't afford a $10K+ dress. This is over the top if I am understanding this! (NT) -- No name, 12:34:31 07/13/24 Sat (150-200-158-23.clients.gthost.com/23.158.200.150) Curious, I am just a parent so question for those State Directors/Leads. Does this Robin person people refer to making these rules, does she hear you out when you express all these concerns that are costing you money and loss of contestants? (NT) -- No name, 13:23:34 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/217.148.140.227) Robin does not listen to anything. If you push back, she puts people in place that say yes to everything, kiss her a$$ and tell her how wonderful she is. (NT) -- No name, 17:09:36 07/13/24 Sat (108-94-108-63.lightspeed.rlghnc.sbcglobal.net/108.94.108.63) Robin is just a corrupt as Henry's. Great way to run the Miss America Pageant. Hopefully after the 19th she will be GONE GONE GONE! Add to the every growing list of come and go's. (NT) -- No name, 11:27:54 07/14/24 Sun (136-32-197-127.googlefiber.net/136.32.197.127) OH it is for sure the new rule. Our state uses a gown sponsor they have used for YEARS that happens to be in a neighboring state. NOT allowed. You either have to have an IN STATE sponsor, OR Henry's is where you are REQUIRED to go. (NT) -- No name, 17:00:01 07/14/24 Sun (136-32-197-127.googlefiber.net/136.32.197.127) I heard Henri's was offering a 10% discount to contestants. whoodey fricken do. (NT) -- 10% is a joke, 17:09:20 07/14/24 Sun (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124) This rule apples to any state that goes out of state to purchase a gown for Miss A. For example, Regalia helped over half the states in some years with their EG, this will stop this from happening. Henri's entered into a contract with Miss Robin to provide wardrobe for the new Miss A and Teen and this is the payback that Henri's gets. The only way around it is to have an In-State Sponsor for EG and they are required to register with Miss A or wear your State gown. But if you live in Wyoming and do not have an In-State sponsor, and are use to going to Regalia, this will stop that, they will have to go to Henri's. Guess Miss A was done with the perks given to them by Regaliz and shoved them out of the way (NT) -- No name, 18:31:40 07/14/24 Sun (108-239-242-250.lightspeed.stlsmo.sbcglobal.net/108.239.242.250) This is just SO WRONG! (NT) -- No name, 18:37:38 07/14/24 Sun (136-32-197-127.googlefiber.net/136.32.197.127) Who were the dress stores Robin banned from selling dresses to contestants? (NT) -- No name, 19:09:33 07/14/24 Sun (NoHost/64.53.17.166) Someone that missed Colorado said it best. This is complete and utter vengeance on Robin’s part We can only hope the EDs stand up for the people they claim they love. (NT) -- No name, 13:35:55 07/15/24 Mon (NoHost/172.56.216.122)

Subject: MAO Miss State 2024 Pageant Dates / Live Stream Info / Results Updated June 30
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:27:31 06/30/24 Sun (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) April 14: Vermont (Meara Seery, Age 24, Green for Good, Vocalist) April 27: New Hampshire (Emily Spencer, Age 23, Inspiring Inclusivity, Lyrical Dance) May 12: Rhode Island (Ali Hornung, Age 24, Glimmer of Hope, Vocalist) June 1: South Dakota (Joelle Simpson, Age 20, Nurturing Nature, Harpist) June 6: Alaska (Jordan Naylor, Age 26, Heart Health, Ballroom Dance) June 8: Kansas (Alexis Smith, Age 25, Respect Reclaimed, Ventriloquism) Mississippi (Becky Williams, Age 22, Make a Move, Jazz Dance) Nebraska (Raechel Warren, Age 28, Passion to Purpose, Roller Skating) New Jersey (Elizabeth Mendel, Age 22, IMAGE is Everywhere, Dancer) New Mexico (Emille-Marie Enriquez, Age ?, The Apricot Ribbon Campaign, Ballet Folkloric) North Dakota (Sophia Richards, Age 23, BIOgirls, Vocalist) Oklahoma (Lauren Frost, Age 24, Adoption – Oklahoma’s Option, Contemporary Clogging), Wyoming (Baylee Drewry, Age 20, Supporting Girls and Women in Sports, HerStory) June 15: Arkansas (Camille Cathey, Age 22, Volunteerism, Vocalist) California (Kimberly Vernon, Age 27, Arts for All, Jazz Dance) Georgia (Ludwig Louizaire, Age 26, Education for Every Student, Vocalist) Illinois (Breana Bagley, Age 26, Defying Pancreatic and Rare Diseases, Dancer) Iowa (Abi Batu-Tiako, Age 21, The United Voices, Vocalist) Kentucky (Chapel Tinius, Age 24, Veteran’s Awareness & Appreciation, Fiddle) Louisiana (Olivia Grace George, Age 20, Education is Key, Dance) Michigan (Jenae Lodewyk, Age 24?, Women in the Workplace, HerStory) Missouri (Ashley Berry, Age 20, Media Smart, Ballet Dance) Ohio (Stephanie Finoti, Age 21, Preparing Young Women for STEM, Ballet Dance) Pennsylvania (Page Weinstein, Age 26, Beauty for All, Baton) Utah (Paris Matthews, Age 26, The Power of Play, Dance) June 21: Minnesota (Emily Schumacher, Age 24, Heart Health, Tap Dance) Nevada (Karrina Ferris, Age 22?, Inform to Reform, Lyrical / Ballet Dance) June 22: Arizona (Shailey Ringenbach; Age 20; Share the Love Pet Therapy; Dance) Connecticut (Monica Fenwick; Age 24?; Communication is Key; Flute) Delaware (Nova Gaffney; Age 24; Domestic Violence Awareness; Ballet Dance) Idaho (Madison Andreason; Age 21; Get Up and Get Out; Dance) Maryland (Bridget O’Brien; Age 22?; Boomerang; Vocal) Massachusetts (Kiersten Khoury; Age 23; Check the Chicas; HerStory) Tennessee (Carley Vogel; Age 23?; Organ Donation; Vocal) Washington D.C. (Katie Ann Powell; Age 26?; Full Confidence Ahead; Harpist) West Virginia (Jennifer Reuther; Age ; Wellness Across West Virginia; Dance) Wisconsin (Mandi Genord; Age 22; Movement Matters; Dance) June 23: Hawaii (Hayley Cheyney-Kane; Age 26; Preventative Medicine; Vocal / Hula combo) June 29: Alabama (Abbi Stockard; Age 21; Cystic Fibrosis; Dance) Florida (Casana Fink; Age 25; Organ Donation; Lyrical Dance) Indiana (Kaylyn Melham; Age 23; Change Through Theatre; Vocal) North Carolina (Carrie Everett; Age 20; Equity to Build Community; Vocal), Oregon (Abigail Hoppe; Age 25; Making Type 1 Diabetes feel like Type None; Latin Jazz Dance) South Carolina (Davis Walsh; Age 23; Guiding Youth with Incarcerated Parents; Vocal) Texas (Annette Addo-Yobo; Age 25?; Autism Awareness; HerStory) Virginia (Carlehr Swanson; Age 25?; Vocal / Piano combo) June 30: Maine July 6: New York, Washington July 13: Montana July 14: Colorado July 21: Puerto Rico If you have live-streaming information or clarification information, please drop that in the comments. Thank you! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Maine (Jennie Daley; Age 28, #DressLikeAnEngineer; HERstory--"I Want to Be an Engineer") (NT) -- No name, 00:03:54 07/01/24 Mon (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) Thank you! (NT) -- No name, 01:37:52 07/01/24 Mon (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) Bumping - any livestream information for the final few pageants? (NT) -- No name, 23:23:46 07/03/24 Wed (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) Colorado will not be streaming unfortunately (NT) -- No name, 16:10:38 07/04/24 Thu (NoHost/107.123.1.17) I was really wanting to see that one! Thank you for letting us know (NT) -- No name, 18:52:25 07/04/24 Thu (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) Does anyone know who the runners up were in Maine? (NT) -- No name, 16:09:45 07/04/24 Thu (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Delaney Jo Hartley was 1st RU, I don't know how many ru's beyond 1st ru that they called (NT) -- No name, 19:03:26 07/04/24 Thu (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) Miss Washington is live streaming. $25 each for preliminaries and finals. (NT) -- https://misswashington.ticketspice.com/2024-livestream, 00:09:10 07/05/24 Fri (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) Thank you! (NT) -- No name, 13:46:10 07/05/24 Fri (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) thank you for putting this together (NT) -- No name, 01:12:05 07/05/24 Fri (NoHost/104.28.116.92) Very welcome! (NT) -- No name, 13:48:00 07/05/24 Fri (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) out of the class who is a former OT (NT) -- No name, 01:12:35 07/05/24 Fri (syn-076-082-048-252.res.spectrum.com/76.82.48.252) New York finals night only livestreaming: https://maestro.tv/missnewyorkorg/missnewyork2024 (NT) -- No name, 13:39:40 07/05/24 Fri (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) New York: (Abigail Quammen; Age 24; Literacy; Vocal) (NT) -- No name, 22:54:27 07/06/24 Sat (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) Washington: (Hermona Girmay; Age 23; SheCan, supporting women’s education; Vocal) (NT) -- No name, 23:46:44 07/06/24 Sat (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) Montana: (Kaylee Wolfensberger; Age 20?; Healing Harmonies; Piano) (NT) -- No name, 03:01:08 07/14/24 Sun (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) How many contestants in Montana this year? (NT) -- No name, 08:00:06 07/14/24 Sun (NoHost/184.19.99.245) There were 7 Miss contestants in Montana this year (initially 6, with the addition of former Miss MT USA Mady Rigg at the last minute). (NT) -- No name, 09:06:16 07/14/24 Sun (NoHost/120.28.64.121) How did Mady Rigg do? Do we know any runners-up in MT? (NT) -- No name, 13:51:01 07/14/24 Sun (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) What was Kaylee's song selection? (NT) -- No name, 18:20:23 07/14/24 Sun (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) She plays a bit from The Sound of Silence on her Instagram but not certain that was her competition song. (NT) -- No name, 22:06:33 07/14/24 Sun (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) Colorado: (Alexandra Lotko; Age 26; It’s Okay Not to be Okay; Vocal) (NT) -- No name, 23:37:58 07/14/24 Sun (47-201-79-184.cygr.fl.frontiernet.net/47.201.79.184) Does anyone know what song Alexandra sang? (NT) -- No name, 08:40:16 07/15/24 Mon (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) She sang “Yesterday” and almost managed to sing it as poorly as when Savannah Cavanaugh sang it. -- No name, 09:30:46 07/15/24 Mon (c-107-2-183-252.hsd1.co.comcast.net/107.2.183.252)

Subject: Former Outstanding Teens at Miss America 2025
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 02:26:22 07/14/24 Sun (NoHost/120.28.64.121) Alaska: Jordan Naylor (Miss Alaska's OT 2012) Arkansas: Camille Cathy (Miss Arkansas's OT 2018) Hawaii: Haley Chaney-Kane (Miss Hawaii's OT 2013) Idaho: Madison Andreason (Miss Idaho's OT 2021) Kentucky: Chapel Tinius (Miss Kentucky's OT 2016) Missouri: Ashley Berry (Miss Missouri's OT 2021) New York: Abigail Quammen (Miss Kentucky's OT 2017) Oregon: Abigail Hoppe (Miss Oregon's OT 2016) Pennsylvania: Page Weinstein (Miss Pennsylvania's OT 2014, Top 12 at MAOT 2015) Wisconsin: Mandi Genord (Miss Wisconsin's OT 2018) With Colorado have no former OTs in the roster, I think this will be the first time in almost a decade to have 10 former OTs in the 2024/25 class. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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You forgot Minnesota. Emily Schumacher competed at MAT in 2017 (NT) -- PikachusWorld(not signed in), 09:29:34 07/14/24 Sun (65-128-199-70.mpls.qwest.net/65.128.199.70) The list is now 11, comparing to 10 former Teen USAs in this year's Miss USA. -- No name, 11:02:01 07/14/24 Sun (NoHost/120.28.64.121)

Subject: Pageant Coach - Should Board refund contestants and guest?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:22:11 07/09/24 Tue (96-83-118-198-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/96.83.118.198) I have a client who competed and I need others' opinions. They had to purchase ad pages as well as ticket packages that included program books. At the pageant there were no program books distributed nor was anyone told of a delay digital book etc provided She found out after the pageant, that the books hadn't even been sent to print. I feel that the board should refund the ad page money as well as the cost of books from the guest, personally - as a small business if I pay for a specific ad feature I expect that to be run. Another coach said was a lofty ask as the board likely needs to money but I feel its about integrity. Open to others opinions [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I'd either want money back or a guarantee that the money they didn't use goes to scholarships or production. (NT) -- No name, 15:25:12 07/09/24 Tue (WLESS-v987-NAT.net.wsu.edu/69.166.46.188) They are saying they are printing books but the pageant has passed . I feel the guest should get their books and the ad page $$ be refunded (NT) -- No name, 15:32:32 07/09/24 Tue (96-83-118-198-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/96.83.118.198) Please name the pageant (NT) -- No name, 15:41:37 07/09/24 Tue (138.syracuse-06rh15rt.ny.dial-access.att.net/12.75.117.138) DC (NT) -- No name, 15:32:14 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/140.248.0.176) refund the money (NT) -- No name, 20:47:40 07/09/24 Tue (syn-076-082-048-252.res.spectrum.com/76.82.48.252) Without a doubt, the money should be returned. -- ......and soon!, 11:45:29 07/10/24 Wed (ip68-97-244-135.ok.ok.cox.net/68.97.244.135) Is that not false advertisement? I'm not aware of the laws in this state, but an attorney needs to contacted! Yesterday! (NT) -- No name, 05:19:35 07/14/24 Sun (ip24-253-223-74.ok.ok.cox.net/24.253.223.74)

Subject: My personal favorites crowned so far
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:19:34 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/172.56.65.3) Arkansas Ohio Florida New York Tennessee [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Miss America or Miss USA? (NT) -- No name, 22:58:11 07/10/24 Wed (syn-076-185-110-174.res.spectrum.com/76.185.110.174) If your reference is MAO, please explain the fascination with Miss Florida. I do not mean to be disrespectful but I have watched her for several years now am I am not a fan of her. I know I have not seen her interview and am lead to believe she is a strong interview so that must be her “IT” factor because I just do not see it from her. (NT) -- No name, 01:21:44 07/14/24 Sun (104.244.142.154.cnsnext.com/104.244.142.154)

Subject: Miss USA 2024 contestant roster (with former state titles and info) - class is now complete, updated and revised

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Alabama (Diane C. Westhoven, Age 21)
Alaska (Brenna C. Schaake, Age 29)
Arizona (Kristina (K) Johnson, Age 41 [The first woman to win after the age of 40])
Arkansas (Madeline Marie Bohlman, Age 22 [Miss Arkansas Teen USA 2021 and cousin of Miss America 2024 Madison Isabella Marsh])
California (Samantha Ramos, Age 24)
Colorado (Jessica (Jessi) Kalambayi, Age 26)
Connecticut (Shavana Karoline Clarke, Age 29 [The first woman to win after the age of 28 following age restrictions lifted])
Delaware (Alysa D. Bainbridge, Age 25 [Miss Pennsylvania's Outstanding Teen 2016 and Miss Pennsylvania 2022])
District of Columbia (Kleo Torres, Age 26)
Florida (Peyton Lewis, Age 25)
Georgia (Emmaline Jo Farmer, Age 24)
Hawaii (Breea Rae Yamat, Age 27 [Sister of Miss Hawaii USA 2022 Kiana Coral Yamat])
Idaho (Kaitlyn Widmyer aka Kit Stackz, Age 28)
Illinois (Grace Rodi, Age 24)
Indiana (Stephanie Jean Torres Sullivan, Age 33 [The first married mother to win in any USA state title])
Iowa (McKenzie Ariana Kerry, Age 26)
Kansas (Bella Barclay Whitlock, Age 19 [Miss Kansas Volunteer Teen 2023])
Kentucky (Connor J. Perry, Age 23)
Louisiana (Sydney Taylor, Age 23 [Miss Louisiana Teen USA 2020])
Maine (Anne Summer Baldridge, Age 25)
Maryland (Bailey Anne Kennedy, Age 32 [The first transgender woman to win the state title])
Massachusetts (Melissa Queenie Sapini, Age 21)
Michigan (Alma Minerva Oralia Cooper, Age 22)
Minnesota (Muna Ali, Age 27)
Mississippi (Kaylee Brooke McCollum, Age 24 [Miss Mississippi Teen USA 2019])
Missouri (Ashleigh Lorene Bedwell, Age 25)
Montana (Shelby Dangerfield, Age 30)
Nebraska (Kamryn Buchanan, Age 24)
Nevada (Najah Ali, Age 23)
New Hampshire (Ariel Michaela Sullivan, Age 28)
New Jersey (Jabili Kandula, Age 24)
New Mexico (Mackenzie Lee Sydow, Age 22)
New York (Marizza Delgado, Age 25 [Miss Earth New York 2022])
North Carolina (McKenzie (Kenzie) Lee Hansley, Age 25 [Miss North Carolina's Outstanding Teen 2015 and Miss North Carolina Teen USA 2017])
North Dakota (Codi Ann Miller, Age 31 [Miss North Dakota Teen USA 2009 and the first woman to win after the age of 30])
Ohio (Macy A. Hudson, Age 24)
Oklahoma (Danika Christopherson, Age 22 [Miss Oklahoma Teen USA 2020])
Oregon (Shayla Montgomery, Age 22 [Miss Oregon Teen USA 2020])
Pennsylvania (Noni Tana Diarra, Age 23)
Rhode Island (Kaitlynne Santana, Age 21)
South Carolina (Ava Gracen Grainger, Age 23 [Miss South Carolina Teen USA 2020])
South Dakota (Ahmitara Alwal, Age 25)
Tennessee (Christell Foote, Age 24)
Texas (Tala Aarieanna Ware, Age 26)
Utah (Alyssa Chandler, Age 21)
Vermont (Samantha Vocatura, Age 27 [Miss World America Vermont 2023])
Virginia (Himanvi Preeti Panidepu, Age 24 [Miss Virginia Teen USA 2018])
Washington (Tiffany Ann Rea, Age 27 [Miss United States 2020])
West Virginia (Caylie Raeanne Simmons, Age 24)
Wisconsin (Victoria (Tori) Diane Trittin, Age 22 [Miss Minnesota Teen USA 2017])
Wyoming (Mackenzie Rush, Age 19)

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Subject: Miss Puerto Rico Contestants are finally up!
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:27:41 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/104.28.92.127) https://www.instagram.com/p/C9UsOEtOVHu/?igsh=b28xd3p5ZGMzaTAz [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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3 Miss and 4 Teens. How much did that PR judge have to pay Robin for this? (NT) -- No name, 11:14:57 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/172.56.65.207) The website originally had 4 Miss and 4 Teens. What happened to the other Miss contestant? (NT) -- No name, 12:57:58 07/13/24 Sat (pool-100-36-43-25.washdc.fios.verizon.net/100.36.43.25)

Subject: Miss Colorado 2024 predictions
Author: Annoying E [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:43:34 07/11/24 Thu (30.syracuse-06rh15rt.ny.dial-access.att.net/12.75.117.30) Okay folks! Top 5 predictions Who do you think will be holding hands on Sunday? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Will it be live-streamed? (NT) -- No name, 18:50:39 07/11/24 Thu (66-110-252-137-dynamic.northstate.net/66.110.252.137) Will Madison be there? (NT) -- No name, 19:14:48 07/11/24 Thu (NoHost/50.201.221.2) Madison will definitely be there. She is hosting the finals per the social media accounts. Social media makes it appear that she is already in town. -- No name, 20:00:28 07/11/24 Thu (118.sub-174-201-16.myvzw.com/174.201.16.118) I think Denver and front range (NT) -- No name, 19:37:42 07/11/24 Thu (syn-071-068-020-110.res.spectrum.com/71.68.20.110) From social I like Denver, Cheyenne Mountain, Aurora, and Front Range. I would prefer a titleholder with experience so Denver or Aurora. (NT) -- No name, 19:53:52 07/11/24 Thu (NoHost/45.13.235.185) Big fan of Denver and Aurora. I feel like Denver is a lot more polished and has more experience. She honestly honestly was great last year, but her talent needed a little more polishing. I hope she brings her A game this weekend because her story is incredible and I think she would do a lot for the state. -- No name, 22:03:09 07/11/24 Thu (c-107-2-183-252.hsd1.co.comcast.net/107.2.183.252) Miss Denver who? -- N/A N/A, 00:52:51 07/12/24 Fri (NoHost/134.238.179.35) So, specifically how did Miss Denver bully the new board of directors? Bullying is a vague term… Instead of using a vague term, name her behavior… W (NT) -- No name, 01:13:54 07/12/24 Fri (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) I bet you can do some diggings if you scroll through the threads =>>> what state's are the best to compete in?=>>> check them out before she deletes them. She is very well known for her childish behavior in her previous States competitions in Florida - No one liked her - period -- N/A N/A, 01:59:39 07/12/24 Fri (NoHost/134.238.179.36) Childless behavior… what are specific examples of her childless behavior? (NT) -- No name, 09:55:18 07/12/24 Fri (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) Stars and garters….I’m sorry, how could you possibly know who someone is when everyone posts anonymously? I mean you can make assumptions but that’s a pretty awful thing to say about someone unless you’ve specifically talked to them and they’ve told you they post here. It is known however that Savannah and Sarah both talk about these boards, have stated they post here, and are obsessed with their images so which one of you thought that was a cute thing to post? (NT) -- No name, 10:05:41 07/12/24 Fri (NoHost/185.61.158.48) LOL , true Sarah is always on the boards (NT) -- No name, 14:34:57 07/12/24 Fri (NoHost/172.56.98.90) Thanks for the advice, I looked and a lot of the Savannah, Sarah, and new board hate came from this IP and I’m not Elizabeth. In fact, you actually won’t guess correctly who I am because that’s what a VPN and changing your location is for to throw someone off! Miss you girls! -- No name, 10:12:49 07/12/24 Fri (c-107-2-183-252.hsd1.co.comcast.net/107.2.183.252) Okay Elizabeth, it’s not you :D Now get out of Voy boards ;) Good luck -- N/A, 13:36:04 07/12/24 Fri (30.syracuse-06rh15rt.ny.dial-access.att.net/12.75.117.30) wild behavior to accuse someone of anonymously bullying people on here as you do that exact thing? -- N/A, 11:23:34 07/12/24 Fri (syn-071-068-020-110.res.spectrum.com/71.68.20.110) What do people expect to happen by calling out contestants? (NT) -- No name, 18:04:55 07/12/24 Fri (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) I don’t understand this either. But I’m guessing, they’re just trying to tear down Denver’s reputation and try to convince other she doesn’t deserve to win because she’s a front runner. Sounds like jealousy to me. (NT) -- No name, 02:37:34 07/13/24 Sat (83-43-121-38.clients.gthost.com/38.121.43.83) Does Colorado have locals or is it mostly an open pageant? (NT) -- No name, 15:13:31 07/12/24 Fri (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) Yeah they don’t have any locals at all (NT) -- No name, 02:16:57 07/13/24 Sat (NoHost/172.58.130.160)

Subject: Titleholders on social media
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 06:58:29 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/172.56.65.3) Ok maybe I’m old school, but is anyone else noticing more and more titleholders post questionable things on social media. I’m seeing so many skimpy swimsuit posts, showing of alcohol and drinking, excessive partying, and even tik toks and reels with vulgar lyrics. Sometimes even WITH crown/sash on! Has social media caused the young ladies of this generation to have so little class? Thoughts? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I don’t care much about the swimwear as long as it’s not inappropriate and it’s something they’d wear in public, but the alcohol, absolutely not. To me that’s just common sense. You wouldn’t want future employers seeing that, so why would you post it? (NT) -- No name, 08:30:55 07/10/24 Wed (syn-071-067-228-034.biz.spectrum.com/71.67.228.34) What Im getting tired of is the canned social media posts .... it's getting as bad as a pyramid scheme to be a titleholder in the MAO. "I just interviewed for my dream job!" Yeah so did 5,986 other girls on social media today. (NT) -- No name, 10:47:56 07/10/24 Wed (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) Agree. Be original. And don't tell us you were your authentic self. If you have to tell us, you weren't. (NT) -- No name, 11:07:52 07/10/24 Wed (75-144-226-226-Tallahassee.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/75.144.226.226) Yep. The social media schedule they are to follow is so blahhhh. Nothing original. I understand they are spokeswomen but MAO should come up with some of its own publicity and marketing instead of the local girls doing it. Plus all the fundraising the girls do (NT) -- Kml, 15:14:22 07/10/24 Wed (eu107.ips.PaulBunyan.net/209.191.211.107) Are they told what to post by MAO? (NT) -- No name, 15:41:48 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/172.56.163.214) Yes (NT) -- No name, 20:03:27 07/10/24 Wed (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124) yes (NT) -- No name, 19:19:54 07/12/24 Fri (NoHost/192.68.164.210) Who has done this (NT) -- No name, 16:08:34 07/10/24 Wed (37.sub-174-193-192.myvzw.com/174.193.192.37) Which titleholders posted questionable things on social media? (NT) -- No name, 18:13:04 07/10/24 Wed (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) Young women that are 21+ should be allowed to drink without the crown and sash on without being made to feel bad. (NT) -- No name, 23:10:26 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/107.123.1.46) I disagree because they are role models they should not do this when they hold a title If being miss State is imported to then they can refrain for that one year e (NT) -- No name, 02:40:35 07/11/24 Thu (54.sub-174-193-198.myvzw.com/174.193.198.54) The way you’re spelling looks like you need to refrain from alcohol (NT) -- No name, 03:43:01 07/11/24 Thu (NoHost/107.123.1.46) there is a thing called responsible drinking. what if they are at a wedding and having a champagne toast. That is different than partying at a country music or rock concert (NT) -- No name, 15:20:30 07/11/24 Thu (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124) There's a happy medium in here somewhere. Remember when Miss America was the ideal? I want to see the titleholders being young women. I hope they're showing off fit bodies in trendy swimsuits. I don't mind if they are of legal age and they're holding a drink at a wedding. I want them to go to fairs and festivals and put popular music in the background of their reels (I don't love if there are curses in it, but we also can't expect them to use the Kidz Bop versions either). My point is, times are changing, social norms are relaxing, and we can't expect titleholders in 2024 to look and act like the matronly saints they were in the 90s-2000s, AND wonder why the program has dwindling participation. The girls are either on trend, or not. (NT) -- No name, 16:13:31 07/11/24 Thu (c-66-31-94-95.hsd1.ct.comcast.net/66.31.94.95) You are correct. It is legal to drink at 21. I just don't want to see them participating in a drunkfest on social media. A drink is their ihand never bothers me. (NT) -- No name, 16:48:14 07/11/24 Thu (75-144-226-226-Tallahassee.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/75.144.226.226)

Subject: Miss New York 2024 - Abigail Q
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 20:53:49 07/06/24 Sat (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) 1. Abigail Quammen, Miss Empire / Read, Lead, Succeed / Vocal “The Impossible Dream” (2023 SF, Prelim Talent, NFI & NFT) (KY 2022 1RU, Prelim OSQ)(KY 2021 4RU)(2017 KY OT) T & EG, Overall T 2. Mina Liang, Miss Liberty / Marking Cents Count: Mastering Financial Literacy / Ballet & Violin “Csar Das” (2022 4RU) (MA 2021 SF) EG, Overall EG 3. Aundria Littlejohn, Miss Manhattan, 27 / Copy Genius: Extending the Hand of Mentorship / Vocal “Almost There” (AZ 2018 SF) (AZ 2017 3RU)(AZ 2016 NF)(2014 NM Teen USA) H&F 4. Gabriella Marinelli, Miss Richmond County / Mindful Media: Promoting Media Literacy Education / Pom Dance – USA medley H&F 5. Chelsea Lovell, Miss Upstate New York / Resilient Warriors: Awareness & Aid for Domestic Violence / Lyrical Jazz Dance “Endangered Species” (2023 1RU, Prelim EG)(2022 NF)(FL 2018 NF) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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NY Semi-finalists (click in) -- No name, 21:07:18 07/06/24 Sat (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) Who won New York's Teen? (NT) -- No name, 21:30:42 07/06/24 Sat (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) Erica Parks, Miss Greater NY’s Teen (NT) -- No name, 01:06:36 07/07/24 Sun (host-177-194.flwgflc.wintergardens.fl.us.clients.pavlovmedia.net/153.33.177.194) What is the song selection she chose for talent? (NT) -- No name, 10:01:54 07/07/24 Sun (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) She tapped to “Show Me How You Burlesque” (NT) -- No name, 11:26:54 07/07/24 Sun (host-177-194.flwgflc.wintergardens.fl.us.clients.pavlovmedia.net/153.33.177.194) Abigail a good choice (NT) -- No name, 22:39:23 07/06/24 Sat (syn-076-082-048-252.res.spectrum.com/76.82.48.252) I think she’s talented, but very “pageant Patty” - not unusual. (NT) -- No name, 10:53:18 07/07/24 Sun (h90.202.117.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/75.117.202.90) It seems all of the NY top 5 and semi-finalists have all competed in other states. (NT) -- No name, 12:26:59 07/07/24 Sun (c-98-220-13-180.hsd1.il.comcast.net/98.220.13.180) Not true. Gabriella Marinelli, Chelsea Lovell and Alexa Moley are 3 of them who have not. (NT) -- No name, 08:45:14 07/08/24 Mon (pool-100-37-18-189.nycmny.fios.verizon.net/100.37.18.189) o.k. But then 7 out of 10 WERE from other states. That's really a high percentage. (NT) -- No name, 12:05:10 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/148.59.75.51) Chelsea competed in Florida (NT) -- No name, 17:23:16 07/08/24 Mon (136-54-199-223.googlefiber.net/136.54.199.223) Who won the NY Overall Awards? (NT) -- No name, 12:56:04 07/07/24 Sun (syn-172-254-022-154.biz.spectrum.com/172.254.22.154) I hope Mina returns - she has IT. Watched with several folks who have never watched a pageant and they all said she was the winner … doesn’t mean much but to us it does ;) I think all top 5 should be happy Aundria’s talent was so bad bec she also easily could have done it … (NT) -- No name, 14:29:55 07/07/24 Sun (171.sub-174-229-54.myvzw.com/174.229.54.171) Quammen was on it this year and brought her A game. She is a seasoned competitor from KY and knew what she was doing. You can even tell by her social media that she was ready to be Miss NY. She will be one of the strongest singers at Miss America (NT) -- No name, 15:51:34 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/172.56.65.3) Which sadly means nothing nowadays. Which hook or story will she bring to Miss America? (NT) -- No name, 16:47:19 07/07/24 Sun (syn-172-254-022-154.biz.spectrum.com/172.254.22.154) No hook- talent is good but when you come from a life of privilege it’s hard to have a “story”. Miss Texas will be hard to beat. She’s our story this year. (NT) -- No name, 17:37:14 07/07/24 Sun (h90.202.117.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/75.117.202.90) The remaining states definitely have local candidates with great stories, one girl in Colorado has lost both of her parents to cancer, the other is a cancer survivor. Lots of good stories coming up! (NT) -- No name, 17:54:46 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/64.40.156.135) I can already see Miss Texas being hyped to no ends just to do nothing. Very likely (NT) -- No name, 19:37:50 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/172.56.65.3) Just like the past two Miss Texas winners did nothing. (NT) -- No name, 21:15:03 07/07/24 Sun (syn-076-185-110-174.res.spectrum.com/76.185.110.174) Really? Do nothing but 1st runner up and 2nd runner up. You are kinda clueless with your comment. (NT) -- No name, 22:44:04 07/07/24 Sun (syn-070-113-128-069.res.spectrum.com/70.113.128.69) I think it was sarcasm (NT) -- No name, 02:11:08 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/65.49.97.151) The past 2 Miss Texas winners made the top 5… Do you consider that nothing? (NT) -- No name, 09:01:11 07/08/24 Mon (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) No one should be discounted coming from a “privileged” family. They obviously worked hard and made a difference. Not everyone needs some sap story (NT) -- No name, 21:20:31 07/07/24 Sun (syn-184-056-192-183.res.spectrum.com/184.56.192.183) Recognizing that her life has been easier than the girls she is competing against is okay! Sounds like you’re very privileged and feeling attacked. (NT) -- No name, 21:42:27 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/192.119.160.89) So, what should Miss New York tell the contestants who did not live an easy life? (NT) -- No name, 22:16:29 07/07/24 Sun (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) Agreed. Since when has Miss America become a competition for best sob story? Anyway, I’d rather have a happy contestant with a good social platform than a contestant who pretends to be disadvantaged in order to score pity points. (NT) -- No name, 22:20:15 07/07/24 Sun (syn-098-151-147-101.res.spectrum.com/98.151.147.101) There is no such thing as “pity points” in pageants, that is a myth spread by people with privilege that are out worked by people that have had horrible things happen to them. (NT) -- No name, 22:32:48 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/103.111.32.170) You can't beat a deaf mute! (NT) -- No name, 00:22:53 07/12/24 Fri (NoHost/149.115.99.137) Because Miss America needs to be marketable and memorable. Nobody cares when another pretty rich girl wins a pageant, it’s not interesting. Get over it. (NT) -- No name, 22:43:51 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/192.119.160.98) Madison is a doctors daughter, and seems a most interesting, marketable, and memorable Miss America. (NT) -- No name, 01:54:35 07/08/24 Mon (syn-098-151-147-101.res.spectrum.com/98.151.147.101) A doctor’s daughter who also lost her mom to pancreatic cancer.. they’ve been sending her to a lot more pancreatic cancer events than they have doctor’s daughter events. Critical thinking skills, please. (NT) -- No name, 02:18:38 07/08/24 Mon (105.syracuse-06rh15rt.ny.dial-access.att.net/12.75.117.105) Exactly! The poster who said a life of privilege made it hard to have a story was not correct. And a life without privilege doesn’t make you interesting, either. It’s the woman who makes her experiences memorable. (NT) -- No name, 02:30:51 07/08/24 Mon (syn-098-151-147-101.res.spectrum.com/98.151.147.101) I think you’re misunderstanding, you need a story to be Miss America. Madison has a story because she has been through hardship, that doesn’t make it a “sob story”, but it is a story. Miss NY does not have a story. (NT) -- No name, 10:46:56 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/194.34.105.134) Exactly!!!! Not to discount NY’s talent or beauty but she isn’t very relatable . It isn’t helping MAO at all that their contestants are usually from wealthy families. (NT) -- No name, 13:11:46 07/08/24 Mon (h90.202.117.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/75.117.202.90) I'm so sorry to have to ask -- but what is H&F? (NT) -- No name, 09:18:33 07/08/24 Mon (syn-067-250-199-062.res.spectrum.com/67.250.199.62) H&F is health and fitness. Last year it was L&F lifestyle and fitness. (NT) -- Who knows how they’ll refer to it next year., 17:24:49 07/12/24 Fri (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) You have to go back to Savvy Shields to find a Miss America who isn’t a “first” something. What is Abby’s career/background? (NT) -- No name, 15:17:28 07/08/24 Mon (pool-98-113-202-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net/98.113.202.63) Good question….. lives in NYC. Graduated from Univ of Alabama a few years ago, musical theatre major maybe? Lived in NYC a few years. Does an occasional podcast . (NT) -- No name, 23:37:30 07/08/24 Mon (h90.202.117.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/75.117.202.90) U of A’s BFA Program isn’t in the Top 100 in America. Beside an occasional podcast, does she have a job or career? (NT) -- No name, 15:49:34 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/172.56.163.214) It doesn't matter where you go to school, it's the opportunities you take advantage of that count. Graduates of Carnegie-Mellon University pay their dues in the industry, just as everyone else does. Sometimes you are at the right place at the right time. Does anyone remember Lana Turner? (NT) -- No name, 16:37:18 07/11/24 Thu (syn-071-073-192-044.res.spectrum.com/71.73.192.44) U of A gives full scholarships to State Outstanding Teen winners so kudos to her for that! (NT) -- No name, 20:10:59 07/11/24 Thu (h90.202.117.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/75.117.202.90) Can anyone tell us anything Abby has done beside go to U of A and compete in pageants ? (NT) -- No name, 21:22:54 07/11/24 Thu (NoHost/50.201.221.2) I don’t know the girl, but y’all sound salty as hell. Not every contestant is a military officer or founded a 501c3. Believe it or not, it’s okay that she graduated from college and is laying roots in NY (no idea if she has found work). You sound petty (NT) -- No name, 17:58:46 07/12/24 Fri (24-136-22-53.s2355.c3-0.snb-ubr2.chi-snb.il.cable.rcncustomer.com/24.136.22.53) Why the need to be salty? (NT) -- No name, 18:03:09 07/12/24 Fri (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253)

Subject: Miss North Carolina 2024
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:48:04 06/29/24 Sat (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) 1. Carrie Everett, Johnston County / We Need Equity to Build Communities / Vocal “And I Am Telling You I’m Not Going” (WA 2022 Top 10, Prelim OSQ) T* overall vocalist, overall rookie 2. Keelie Jones, Central Carolina / Crying Out Loud / Tap Dance “Speaking in Tap”(2023 3RU) 3. Lauryn Grace Mallard, Ballantyne / Fight with Grace / Lyrical Dance “I Wanna Dance with Somebody” (2023 T15)(2022 3RU) EG 4. Hannah Welborn-Lewis, Blue Ridge Valley / Sustainable Shareable Solutions / Clogging (MJ & JB) (2023 2RU, Prelim EG) (2018 T10, Prelim SS) EG 5. Sophia Kellstrom, Asheville / Make a Change / Vocal “At Last” (2021 NF)(2018 NF) • Abby Britt, Garner / Give it a S.H.O.T.: Promoting Science Hands on Training / Tap Dance “Make U Sweat” (2023 1RU)(2022 1RU)(2021 3RU)(2019 NF)(2018 T15)(2017 NF) • Maura Westbrook, Sampson County / The Be With Purpose Foundation / Vocal (2023 4RU) (2021 NF) • Raven Delk, Mount Holly / Build Your Future / Vocal (new – 2013 RU in FL OT) • Sarah Beth Howard, Sandhills / Before It Starts: Natural Disaster Preparedness / Classical Vocal “Habanera” (2022 T10) T • Julia Walsh, Lake Norman / Match for Clarity / Vocal (2023 NF) (NY 2022 NF)(2021 NFT, Prelim Talent)(2019 NF, NC Sweetheart)(2018 NF) T* & People’s choice • Hannah Harvey, Metrolina / Global Game Changers / Musical Theatre Vocal (2023 NF)(2022 NF) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Carrie is beautiful & has wonderful posture. Her singing was excellent. (NT) -- She's a contender., 00:35:54 06/30/24 Sun (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) Wild night in NC! (NT) -- No name, 02:24:32 06/30/24 Sun (NoHost/12.174.134.196) Very shocked (NT) -- No name, 05:55:14 06/30/24 Sun (NoHost/12.174.134.196) Yes…pretty, talented, speaks well. She will make a good Miss NC. She needs a different song. “And I am Telling You” is a difficult song. She lost control of it and screamed…got off key. Find a song that fits her great voice. (NT) -- No name, 08:54:08 06/30/24 Sun (NoHost/75.110.35.177) She won overall talent so the judges liked it!! (NT) -- No name, 14:59:29 07/03/24 Wed (mobile-166-198-021-134.mycingular.net/166.198.21.134) She won overall VOCALIST talent (NT) -- No name, 18:30:30 07/03/24 Wed (syn-045-036-036-001.res.spectrum.com/45.36.36.1) It’s confusing how she won overall talent vocal because she tied for preliminary talent with Taylor Foley. Wouldn’t Taylor have tied for this award as well? (NT) -- No name, 09:08:59 07/11/24 Thu (NoHost/207.193.220.123) Michelle Warren sang it the best anyone can. No one will compare to her. Ever. NC fan (NT) -- No name, 22:30:03 07/05/24 Fri (syn-184-056-192-183.res.spectrum.com/184.56.192.183) Yeah, really don't like it when someone appropriates another's "trademark" talent. You do yourself no favors and only invite comparison to he original. That song is Michelle Warren's as far as pageants go. Same as " In His Eyes" belongs to Shani Nielson. Another thing I did not like. Susan Griffin, Miss NC '74 passed away recently. She was known for her rendition of "With a Song in My Heart." There are many recordings of her singing this song as she was known throughout the state for this. They paid tribute to her during the show, but had someone else do the song. Why not just play the original? (NT) -- No name, 23:15:54 07/05/24 Fri (116.sub-174-238-102.myvzw.com/174.238.102.116) Michelle sang “And I Am…” 27 years ago. 1974 was 50 years ago, before modern tech would make things easy, and they didn’t have “someone else” do the song it was the outgoing Miss NC who won talent at Miss America. At Susan’s funeral that same “somebody else” was invited to enter and sit with the family who was publicly complimentary of the TRIBUTE! Not a copy, but tribute in her honor. See also: Kennedy Center Honors TRIBUTE performances…geez people… (NT) -- No name, 23:34:56 07/05/24 Fri (70.sub-174-247-7.myvzw.com/174.247.7.70) Absolutely Michelle Warren OWNS this song in Miss America history. The rest are like Nicole Bethman and Miss Lake Dardanelle. I feel the same way about Lenaya Fayard and Stormy Weather, though some Miss Mississippi in the early 80s (?) supposedly had a good version. (NT) -- No name, 00:16:17 07/12/24 Fri (NoHost/149.115.99.137) Correction: LINNEA Fayard. (Sorry, Linnea!) (NT) -- No name, 00:26:41 07/12/24 Fri (NoHost/149.115.99.137) It was Diane Evans, Miss Mississippi 1982, who blew the socks off of "Stormy Weather" in the '82 pageant and won preliminary talent. That was the only year I attended Miss America when it was in Atlantic City. The overall talent that year was phenominal; it was nearly impossible to predict the talent winners. And while she was a gorgeous Miss America, it always surprised me that Debra Maffet won preliminary talent. There were many others better than her. (NT) -- No name, 15:00:09 07/12/24 Fri (184-100-150-88.lcrs.qwest.net/184.100.150.88) Winner gets a car for the year, but she doesn't have a drivers license and she competed as an Outstanding Teen in Washington State, but went to school as a freshman and sophomore at NCCU in Durham, NC. Some questions about her current enrollment status and that she may have been living with the relative of a state committee member at the time of the pageant. (NT) -- No name, 14:13:34 07/05/24 Fri (NoHost/192.145.117.135) If this is true, the contestants need to hire an attorney ASAP. The contestants deserve money back! (NT) -- No name, 01:47:48 07/06/24 Sat (ec2-15-220-169-52.eu-north-1.compute.amazonaws.com/15.220.169.52) The contestants deserve money back? What money and for what? (NT) -- No name, 11:18:17 07/11/24 Thu (syn-070-113-128-069.res.spectrum.com/70.113.128.69) If you want to know the answers talk to an attorney that deals with "Corporate Gaming", etc. Don't attack the messenger! (NT) -- No name, 22:42:38 07/11/24 Thu (ip24-253-223-74.ok.ok.cox.net/24.253.223.74) Nope. And you are not a messenger!!! You are just some random person with a off base opinion (NT) -- No name, 11:22:39 07/12/24 Fri (syn-070-113-128-069.res.spectrum.com/70.113.128.69) Is Miss North Carolina 2024, Carrie Everett a North Carolina gal who moved west to Washington and competed in pageants there and now returned back home to win Miss NC last month? -- Or is Carrie a Washington native who is now in North Carolina?, 20:50:15 07/05/24 Fri (syn-071-013-135-158.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.135.158) She competed in Teen and Miss in WA. She is in NC for college. Her NC college posted her win on their social media. (NT) -- No name, 17:19:10 07/06/24 Sat (c-76-28-186-204.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/76.28.186.204)

Subject: Would you guys let your daughter compete in Miss Ohio? Does Miss Ohio reward the scholarships they promise to their titleholders??
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:45:22 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/172.58.146.179) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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bump (NT) -- No name, 01:49:59 07/11/24 Thu (syn-074-142-069-147.biz.spectrum.com/74.142.69.147) If my daughter was a miss then she is adult and would not need permission (NT) -- No name, 02:08:26 07/12/24 Fri (1.sub-174-193-196.myvzw.com/174.193.196.1) I personally would not for many reasons, but the biggest being that the leadership does not want a Miss America and tells the girls that. They want something they can “get along with”. They also allow sponsors and auditors to co-mingle, and 1000% bring judges in for favors. They will string rightful winners along for years to make as much money from them as possible. I wouldn’t trust the director with my dog, let alone my daughter. As for scholarships, it’s hit or miss, depending on whether they like you or not. You may have to fight them for it. (NT) -- No name, 13:01:46 07/12/24 Fri (NoHost/173.81.48.122) It depends on what kind of experience she wants. The board wants a good Miss Ohio, someone that is a self starter and doesn’t need the board’s help for appearances and fundraising. If she wins, she will get the same $10k scholarship they’ve awarded for 30+ years, as well as the use of a car. The rest is up to her. Scholarship amounts seem to be on the decline in Ohio. There are a few good locals left - Shawnee is your best bet if you want support and guidance. Good luck! (NT) -- No name, 13:15:56 07/12/24 Fri (mobile-166-199-060-143.mycingular.net/166.199.60.143)

Subject: Repeated Wardrobe
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 13:03:00 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/184.103.170.106) I am so tired of seeing copied versions of custom wardrobe. It’s so obvious when they are bad copies and I know it bothers the original contestants who came up with their designs. Much rather have the person wear something off the rack, couture, or their own design. No one needs to be copying custom designed wardrobe. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I hear ya. I was here at the library & a local's interviews were occurring. One of the moms could tell I knew what I was doing & she showed me her daughter's gown, then asked my opinion. It was Betty Cantrells!! (NT) -- I was thinking, this is Betty's iconic look w/her stamp on it. Yet I'm too polite., 14:12:49 07/10/24 Wed (syn-074-143-208-238.biz.spectrum.com/74.143.208.238) That's not the same as someone copying custom wardrobe. Panoply had an off the rack version of that dress available for sale too--I see it all over Poshmark. That mom wasn't copying anything. (NT) -- No name, 14:49:56 07/10/24 Wed (c-76-28-186-204.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/76.28.186.204) Demi, Hensley, and Madeleine’s wardrobe are ones I always see copied (NT) -- No name, 15:14:09 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/184.103.170.106) How do we know if it is custom. I am not a parent of any paast, current or future contestant, but how would anyone know for sure. I see stuff that girls post as custom that looks smilar to so mny things I see. (NT) -- No name, 15:00:51 07/10/24 Wed (75-144-226-226-Tallahassee.hfc.comcastbusiness.net/75.144.226.226) Knowing it’s custom -- No name, 15:10:57 07/10/24 Wed (NoHost/184.103.170.106) Just take it as a compliment. I would. That is what people do for celebrities. And to be honest, that is what all retailers do, they have their house brand copy top designers. How many Stanley dupes are there out their and that’s not even clothes. (NT) -- Custom is a luxury and most do not realize how expensive it is., 09:12:13 07/11/24 Thu (pool-108-18-246-29.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.18.246.29)

Subject: Miss High School America — thoughts? Mine are: amazing prize package, beautiful girls, and well spoken top 5’s! Would love to know everyone’s thoughts below. Love that collegiate gets to keep the car, even after the year is done.
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Interesting fact - the collegiate winner just graduated high school. (NT) -- No name, 22:37:13 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/104.28.116.49) I noticed that! She is STUNNING! I looked into competing my senior year of high school but did not want to compete in collegiate at that time. Reconsidering now since it’s been a few years! (NT) -- No name, 10:45:19 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/206.171.115.6) My daughter competed twice - it was a great experience. Enrty fees with ad pages included I think comes to $1200 give or take - that includes all contestant meals the week of and rehearsal shirts! The way they do registration with all the sponsors is incredible, so much swag and I mean good swag is handed out! The hotel is gorgeous, I could go on and on! If you are thinking about doing it, do it! (NT) -- No name, 07:02:49 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/32.223.121.167) As someone who has competed in Jr. High, Highschool, and Collegiate I have my own personal inside experience. I prefer MAO over it any day because you are getting some sort of scholarship if you compete at a state pageant even as a NF. MHSA you have to be in the top 5 to get any type of scholarship. The amount of money that I have put into MHSA is outrageous without coming out with anything besides sponsor gifts, which I am grateful for but I wish more candidates came out with scholarships. (NT) -- No name, 16:40:28 07/08/24 Mon (167-85-182-166.mobile.uscc.net/166.182.85.167) Ditto .. (NT) -- No name, 17:52:46 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/104.28.116.107) my daughter did both systems. MAO better by far. Nationals for HS America was so Expensive. Paid $50 or more for various parties we "had to" attend. got fed very little. Only the winner won anything. Interview was 4 min???? how do you get to know someone in 4 minutes (NT) -- MAO all the way, 15:41:51 07/09/24 Tue (24-230-100-124-dynamic.midco.net/24.230.100.124) Good info! Thank you! (NT) -- No name, 23:02:23 07/09/24 Tue (67-211-159-149.unassigned.ntelos.net/67.211.159.149) Who in the Class of 2025 competed in HS America? (NT) -- No name, 15:40:05 07/10/24 Wed (WS-BOINGOWIRELESS-BoingoWireless.customer.alter.net/152.179.246.14)

Subject: What controversy erupted the Miss PA competition last year? We all heard about the bullying this year but some other scandal happened the year prior as well
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 03:36:24 07/01/24 Mon (syn-074-142-069-147.biz.spectrum.com/74.142.69.147) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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bump (NT) -- No name, 16:54:05 07/01/24 Mon (syn-074-142-069-147.biz.spectrum.com/74.142.69.147) click in - a lot to write -- No name, 21:43:24 07/01/24 Mon (NoHost/128.14.201.54) Did all of this happen this year as well as last year… Or is the an entirely different story not involving the bully? The question is this… What happened in 2023 in PA? (NT) -- No name, 22:20:06 07/01/24 Mon (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) What was written above was from 2023 — Robyn K’s story is the 2024 incident. But there have been documented incidents going back to 2019 all at the hands of Victoria. (NT) -- No name, 18:58:38 07/02/24 Tue (hjok.youronlinemortgages.com/192.254.92.14) For 2023 in PA… Is there an entirely different story Not involving the bully from 2024? (NT) -- No name, 22:24:50 07/01/24 Mon (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) The bully story has been ongoing for years. I was on these boards last year when people were complaining about the bully, but I (and many others) didn't believe it because it was so outrageous. I assumed people were either lying or exaggerating. I feel so bad about that now that I've seen the texts posted here and read the restraining order that a judge ordered. I feel really bad for the way these young ladies have been treated and shame on the Miss PA organization for their incompetent leadership (NT) -- No name, 22:51:17 07/01/24 Mon (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Wait, what are they doing to Robyn right now? Frankly, they'd be laughed out of any court in the land for what they've done in allowing this psychopath to continue competing (NT) -- No name, 22:54:13 07/01/24 Mon (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) How do you “know” this person is a psychopath? (NT) -- No name, 22:59:04 07/01/24 Mon (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) A psychopath has a chronic mental disorder… How do you “know” this person has a chronic mental disorder? How do you “know” this person has been diagnosed as a psychopath? (NT) -- No name, 23:05:26 07/01/24 Mon (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) They really need a no tolerance for bullying in the pageant Shame on the miss pa organization (NT) -- No name, 00:33:43 07/02/24 Tue (152.sub-174-193-129.myvzw.com/174.193.129.152) Umm, psychopath isn't an official diagnosis. It's a word used to describe an unstable person with abnormal or violent social behavior. If this isn't abnormal or violent social behavior, I don't know what is (NT) -- No name, 12:04:58 07/02/24 Tue (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) I applaud you coming forward with your experience. First off, how can Miss Pa claim they won’t do anything because the bullying was “hearsay” when most of you experienced the bullying first hand? 2nd, how is coming forward, breaking your MAO Contract? Isn’t the bully in violation of her MAO Contract for her behavior? Lastly, you & sister queens choose not to return because the bully was allowed back. Frankly that is the stance that more girls in PA need to take to get this issue resolved, yet that group of women attend the Miss PA Final, WHY? Miss PA ignored your concerns & yet you came out to support the system that failed you? Doesn’t that send the wrong message? What was achieved by attending the Finals. At the end of the day, the Miss PA ED is the root of the overall bullying issue within Miss PA and she 100% needs to be removed. I encourage all of you girls to come forward & go to Robyn Fleming & demand that this issue dealt with & stop protecting the bully. (NT) -- No name, 13:22:53 07/02/24 Tue (NoHost/172.56.220.75) Robyn K went to Robin Fleming and never got a response even after the court order. Robin Fleming only responded to Robyn K through the PA board and the official statement that was given to CBS. She doesn’t care about any of this, no matter how bad it gets. Debbie the PA Director is the one that told Robyn K to go to the police and even with restraining order, that wasn’t enough. No one cares, they support the bully. Personally I went to the competition finals because I had friends competing. I’m no longer apart of the org, but I can support my loved ones. I’ve encouraged them to leave as well, and I think after this year a few won’t be returning, but they want to finish their local reigns and they were told if they speak up they will be stripped of their local titles. No matter what we do, we are punished. Debbie and the board will do, not to mention what the bully and her directors will do. Her directors have been aware of all of this since she was 16. They don’t care. They never did. (NT) -- No name, 18:54:41 07/02/24 Tue (NoHost/45.144.112.203) Thank you for your honesty. You are right the bully's local directors have been protecting her for years. From what I understand, they completed defended the bully and put Robyn K down. The situation in PA has gone well beyond what is normal catty behavior. I am glad that you decided to remove yourself from the situation and I wish more would follow suit. If no girls compete then they have no competition. Also the sponsors should all be made aware of what is going on. If they pull their support then that witch of a State ED Miss ED will be forced to finally ban the bully from competing. If I was a sponsor, I would be pulling out for sure. They all need to know. Also those judge should be ashamed of themselves for placing the bully as 2nd runner up. I am sure they knew what was going on. (NT) -- No name, 19:26:28 07/02/24 Tue (NoHost/172.56.220.75) So yes, the NEPA directors testified against Robyn K in court to a phone call she had with them where they attempted to coerce her into saying that Victoria didn’t send those text messages. She actually has a phone recording of the phone call, that I’ve heard, where they victim shame her and tells her to stop talking about the text messages and that she should be ashamed of herself for pointing the finger at a former sister queen. Then one of the directors came on this board and victim shamed her again and called her the bully because she chose to speak out instead of keeping quiet again. (NT) -- No name, 22:16:44 07/02/24 Tue (100.117.168.199.hosted.by.thegcloud.com/199.168.117.100) That is absolutely disgusting and very disturbing. Why is the Miss PA Board, The Local Directors and some of the girls so hell bent on protecting this monster? I mean does she have something major on them that they don't want to get out. I heard one of the girls who, Victoria physically struck, changed her story as to not have it affect her status with Miss PA. It has come to the point where the leadership can not be trusted to do the right thing and I hope that these girls wise up and decide to no longer compete for Miss PA until the proper action is taken, furthermore, I call for all the sponsors to stop supporting Miss PA until something is done. (NT) -- No name, 19:50:06 07/03/24 Wed (NoHost/172.56.220.75) A CEO or Corporate Officer should never dismiss something this serious. It's becoming even more apparent why Robin was terminated. I'll bet Straub would have handled this very differently. (NT) -- No name, 12:41:13 07/03/24 Wed (vmi1398913.contaboserver.net/144.126.132.40) Robin is trying to keep her cash cow. She has no time for the contestants and their concerns (NT) -- No name, 14:10:36 07/02/24 Tue (NoHost/172.59.193.206) So Victoria has been bullying people since 2019? Wasn’t she friends with some of the girls like Amanda, Shekera & Shannon? I always wondered why Elaine and Maria stopped competing despite placing in the Top 5. (NT) -- No name, 04:12:57 07/03/24 Wed (syn-074-142-069-147.biz.spectrum.com/74.142.69.147) Most of them are no longer friends with her because as soon as you become some sort of competition to her she completely turns on you. Amanda and Shannon no longer speak to her. Miranda the former Miss Pa is no longer friends with her either. Victoria literally told us she was bulimic and they only crowned her because they felt bad. She has even spoke ill of the ED and the Board President, calling them slurs and such to other contestants but obviously never in front of a chaperone. Victoria has been bullying since before 2019, 2019 is the first time I am aware that someone reported her to the national board. She used to bully and harass her own cousin when they competed as teens together. She even still talks bad about her behind her back calling her fat and saying how she still doesn’t understand how her cousin Madison won when she was so young and inexperienced and that she hopes she never competes as a miss but her family doesn’t believe it. (NT) -- No name, 16:01:10 07/03/24 Wed (hjok.youronlinemortgages.com/192.254.92.14) How do you know this? (NT) -- No name, 17:17:59 07/03/24 Wed (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) I was one of the contestants that competed last year and didn’t return this year. (NT) -- No name, 17:26:39 07/03/24 Wed (139-144-222-157.ip.linodeusercontent.com/139.144.222.157) . (NT) -- No name, 19:42:08 07/03/24 Wed (NoHost/84.17.40.163) Anyone have any updates on this? I know one of the girls who competed this year was told that if she didn’t recant she wouldn’t make the top 10. I would not be shocked to see the bully win the whole thing next year which is just absolutely disgusting. This whole PA organization should be ashamed of themselves. (NT) -- No name, 18:17:27 07/05/24 Fri (NoHost/45.144.112.211) Which one?? That’s horrible! (NT) -- No name, 02:12:19 07/07/24 Sun (syn-074-142-069-147.biz.spectrum.com/74.142.69.147) The Daily Mail has an update on this (NT) -- Hope she gets what she deserves, 12:56:41 07/07/24 Sun (85.sub-97-182-196.myvzw.com/97.182.196.85) Please post a link. Thanks. (NT) -- No name, 13:51:13 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/172.59.88.166) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13572679/victoria-vespico-miss-pennsylvania-stalked-rival-girl-scouts-harvard.html (NT) -- No name, 14:10:08 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/47.217.175.32) And once again, the MAO is humiliated on a national stage. Bravo MAO and Miss PENNSYLVANIA for your incompetent leadership! What the hell is so special about this girl that you'd bring shame to the entire organization rather than remove her from competing?!?!?! You are absolutely complicit in her crimes and should be sued to hell and back by the victims (NT) -- No name, 14:30:04 07/07/24 Sun (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) The fact that this girl has assaulted a teen contestant and the PA org didn’t do anything makes me sick. (NT) -- No name, 00:52:01 07/10/24 Wed (syn-071-067-228-034.biz.spectrum.com/71.67.228.34) So Robyn's home and car were broken into???? It says on the eve of the state pageant, so presumably the bully was at the pageant. Or do they mean the eve of check in? (NT) -- No name, 14:31:21 07/07/24 Sun (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) The night before check in and then once again right after finals (NT) -- No name, 07:29:59 07/09/24 Tue (NoHost/73.214.30.192) Call it what it is… Vandalism (NT) -- No name, 14:07:34 07/10/24 Wed (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106)

Subject: Miss Teen USA 2024 contestant roster (revised with info and updated ages)

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AL: Ava Marie LeBlanc (Age 19), sister of Miss America's OT 2022 Marcelle LeBlanc
AK: Nevaeh James (Age 17)
AZ: Rachael McLaen (Age 19)
AR: Siyona Karkera (Age 19), first Asian American to win the title
CA: Paige Gonor (Age 18)
CO: Reece Revious (Age ??)
CT: Ava Celentano (Age 15)
DE: Kayla Kosmalski (Age 18), first person with down syndrome to win the Teen state title
DC: Chelsea Nicole Chambers (Age 19)
FL: Kennedie Elie Clinton (Age 18)
GA: Ava Colindres (Age 17), first biracial person to win the state title
HI: Hokuaoka'ale Emma Gilman (Age 19)
ID: Alyson "Aly" Feely (Age 19)
IL: Arianna J. Thompson (Age 18)
IN: Aleah Dean (Age 17)
IA: Grace Smithey (Age 19)
KS: Brilee Garrett (Age 17)
KY: Karlie Holmen (Age 17)
LA: Ava Lane Watson (Age 17)
ME: Abigail "Abbey" Hafer (Age 15)
MD: Sanjana Yendluri (Age 19)
MA: Avery Turner (Age 18), daughter of Miss Massachusetts USA 1999 Jennifer Krafve
MI: Maddison Lynn Kott (Age 18)
MN: Grace Stahl (Age 17)
MS: Addison "Addie" Carver (Age 18)
MO: Shelby Welling (Age 19)
MT: Kailey James Burress (Age 18)
NE: Maggie June Wadginski (Age 19), daughter of Miss Michigan Teen USA 1992 and Miss Nebraska USA 1999 WaLynda Lou Sipple, also was Miss Nebraska Teen Volunteer 2024
NV: Courtney Clark (Age 17)
NH: Tara Ditsatha Marshall (Age 17)
NJ: Julia Livoisi (Age 19)
NM: Fernanda Yudith Gonzalez (Age 19)
NY: Valerie Goorahoo (Age 17)
NC: Kaylee Stavlas (Age 17)
ND: Jaycee Grace Parker (Age 17)
OH: Mackenzie Gibson (Age 18)
OK: Megan Lamza (Age 18)
OR: Ashlyn Hart (Age 17)
PA: Elliot Oliphant (Age 19)
RI: Carissa Tillinghast (Age 19)
SC: Jules Marie Grass (Age 19)
SD: Olivia Odenbrett (Age 17), Miss South Dakota's OT 2022
TN: Townsend Blackwell (Age 16)
TX: Dallyn Pesek (Age 17)
UT: Sofia Forrest-Turner (Age 18)
VT: Joslyn McKenna (Age 16)
VA: Julia Allen (Age 17)
WA: Kendall Beasley (Age 17)
WV: Olivia Travis (Age 19), Miss West Virginia's OT 2021
WI: Olivia Mae Negri (Age 17)
WY: Aubree Kruger (Age 18)

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Subject: Miss USA 2024 contestant roster (with former state titles and info) - class is now complete
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:55:54 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/209.35.162.223) Alabama (Diane C. Westhoven, Age 21) Alaska (Brenna C. Schaake, Age 29) Arizona (Kristina (K) Johnson, Age 41 [The first woman to win after the age of 40]) Arkansas (Madeline Marie Bohlman, Age 22 [Miss Arkansas Teen USA 2021]) California (Samantha Ramos, Age 24) Colorado (Jessica (Jessi) Kalambayi, Age 26) Connecticut (Shavana Karoline Clarke, Age 29 [The first woman to win after the age of 28 following age restrictions lifted]) Delaware (Alysa D. Bainbridge, Age 25 [Miss Pennsylvania's Outstanding Teen 2016 and Miss Pennsylvania 2022]) District of Columbia (Kleo Torres, Age 26) Florida (Peyton Lewis, Age 23) Georgia (Emmaline Jo Farmer, Age 24) Hawaii (Breea Rae Yamat, Age 27 [Sister of Miss Hawaii USA 2022 Kiana Coral Yamat]) Idaho (Kaitlyn Widmyer aka Kit Stackz, Age 28) Illinois (Grace Rodi, Age 24) Indiana (Stephanie Jean Torres Sullivan, Age 33 [The first married mother to win in any USA state title]) Iowa (McKenzie Ariana Kerry, Age 25) Kansas (Bella Barclay Whitlock, Age 19 [Miss Kansas Volunteer Teen 2023]) Kentucky (Connor J. Perry, Age 23) Louisiana (Sydney Taylor, Age 23 [Miss Louisiana Teen USA 2020]) Maine (Anne Summer Baldridge, Age 25) Maryland (Bailey Anne Kennedy, Age 31 [The first transgender woman to win the state title]) Massachusetts (Melissa Queenie Sapini, Age 21) Michigan (Alma Minerva Oralia Cooper, Age 22) Minnesota (Muna Ali, Age 27) Mississippi (Kaylee Brooke McCollum, Age 24 [Miss Mississippi Teen USA 2019]) Missouri (Ashleigh Lorene Bedwell, Age 25) Montana (Shelby Dangerfield, Age 30) Nebraska (Kamryn Buchanan, Age 25) Nevada (Najah Ali, Age 23) New Hampshire (Ariel Michaela Sullivan, Age 28) New Jersey (Jabili Kandula, Age 24) New Mexico (Mackenzie Lee Sydow, Age 22) New York (Marizza Delgado, Age 25 [Miss Earth New York 2022]) North Carolina (McKenzie (Kenzie) Lee Hansley, Age 25 [Miss North Carolina's Outstanding Teen 2015 and Miss North Carolina Teen USA 2017]) North Dakota (Codi Ann Miller, Age 31 [Miss North Dakota Teen USA 2009 and the first woman to win after the age of 30]) Ohio (Macy A. Hudson, Age 24) Oklahoma (Danika Christopherson, Age 22 [Miss Oklahoma Teen USA 2020]) Oregon (Shayla Montgomery, Age 22 [Miss Oregon Teen USA 2020]) Pennsylvania (Noni Tana Diarra, Age 23) Rhode Island (Kaitlynne Santana, Age 21) South Carolina (Ava Gracen Grainger, Age 23 [Miss South Carolina Teen USA 2020]) South Dakota (Ahmitara Alwal, Age 25) Tennessee (Christell Foote, Age 24) Texas (Tala Aarieanna Ware, Age 26) Utah (Alyssa Chandler, Age 21) Vermont (Samantha Vocatura, Age 27 [Miss World America Vermont 2023]) Virginia (Himanvi Preeti Panidepu, Age 24 [Miss Virginia Teen USA 2018]) Washington (Tiffany Ann Rea, Age 27 [Miss United States 2020]) West Virginia (Caylie Raeanne Simmons, Age 24) Wisconsin (Victoria (Tori) Diane Trittin, Age 22 [Miss Minnesota Teen USA 2017]) Wyoming (Mackenzie Rush, Age ??) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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I’ve been trying to follow the winners and my two favorites are Texas and Ohio. Maryland and Indiana will almost definitely be in the semi-finals because they will bring attention to the pageant, but I if I am being honest, they are both really strong. (NT) -- No name, 22:36:45 07/07/24 Sun (h116.146.184.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/173.184.146.116) Why would they bring attention to the pageant? (NT) -- No name, 02:58:17 07/08/24 Mon (234.sub-174-193-199.myvzw.com/174.193.199.234) https://www.instagram.com/p/C7w6ln-JZyx/?igsh=eW1lbDMzeTlpaHh1 (NT) -- No name, 20:54:47 07/09/24 Tue (NoHost/104.28.116.91) https://www.instagram.com/p/C9BfK9OOx-E/?igsh=MW03YXU2anEydHd2dg== (NT) -- No name, 21:01:02 07/09/24 Tue (NoHost/104.28.116.107) NE is actually 24, she will be 25 in late August. MD just turned 32 yesterday. (NT) -- No name, 03:18:29 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/180.190.31.81) FL is 25 years of age, she is 1998 birth year who graduated HS in 2017. (NT) -- No name, 20:37:20 07/09/24 Tue (NoHost/120.28.64.70)

Subject: Miss Teen USA 2024 contestant roster
Author: Fan [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 15:52:31 07/09/24 Tue (syn-071-013-135-158.biz.spectrum.com/71.13.135.158) AL: Ava Marie LeBlanc (Age 18), sister of Miss America's OT 2022 Marcelle LeBlanc AK: Nevaeh James (Age 17) AZ: Rachael McLaen (Age 18) AR: Siyona Karkera (Age 19), first Asian American to win the title CA: Paige Gonor (Age ??) CO: Reece Revious (Age ??) CT: Ava Centelano (Age ??) DE: Kayla Kosmalski (Age 18), first person with down syndrome to win the Teen state title DC: Chelsea Chambers (Age 19) FL: Kennedie Clinton (Age ??) GA: Ava Colindres (Age ??), first biracial person to win the state title HI: Hokuaoka'ale Emma Gilman (Age 19) ID: Alyson "Aly" Feely (Age 19) IL: Arianna Thompson (Age 18) IN: Aleah Dean (Age 17) IA: Grace Smithey (Age 19) KS: Brilee Garrett (Age ??) KY: Karlie Holmen (Age 17) LA: Ava Watson (Age 17) ME: Abigail "Abbey" Hafer (Age 15) MD: Sanjana Yendluri (Age 19) MA: Avery Turner (Age 18) MI: Maddison Lynn Kott (Age 18) MN: Grace Stahl (Age 17) MS: Addison "Addie" Carver (Age 18) MO: Shelby Welling (Age 19) MT: Kailey James Burress (Age 18) NE: Maggie June Wadginski (Age 19), the daughter of Miss Michigan Teen USA 1992 and Miss Nebraska USA 1999 WaLynda Lou Sipple, also was Miss Nebraska Teen Volunteer 202 NV: Courtney Clark (Age 17) NH: Tara Marshall (Age ??) NJ: Julia Livoisi (Age 18) NM: Fernanda Yudith Gonzalez (Age 19) NY: Valerie Goorahoo (Age ??) NC: Kaylee Stavlas (Age 17) ND: Jaycee Grace Parker (Age 17) OH: Mackenzie Gibson (Age 18) OK: Megan Lamza (Age 18) OR: Ashlyn Hart (Age ??) PA: Elliot Oliphant (Age 19) RI: Carissa Tillinghast (Age 19) SC: Jules M. Grass (Age 19) SD: Olivia Odenbrett (Age 17), Miss South Dakota's OT 2022 TN: Townsend Blackwell (Age 16) TX: Dallyn Pesek (Age 17) UT: Sofia Forrest-Turner (Age 18) VT: Joslyn McKenna (Age ??) VA: Julia Allen (Age ??) WA: Kendall Beasley (Age 17) WV: Olivia Travis (Age 19), Miss West Virginia's OT 2021 WI: Olivia Mae Negri (Age 17) WY: Aubree Kruger (Age 18) . [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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IG user pagaent.bro has some delegates with full names -- Click in, 20:30:00 07/09/24 Tue (NoHost/120.28.64.70)

Subject: Miss New York
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 02:51:06 07/08/24 Mon (234.sub-174-193-199.myvzw.com/174.193.199.234) Has there been a miss New York who was born in New York? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Jamie Lynn Macchia (Homan) MNY 2015. I'm not sure who else but I believe there were some others. (NT) -- No name, 08:42:57 07/08/24 Mon (pool-100-37-18-189.nycmny.fios.verizon.net/100.37.18.189) Thanks (NT) -- No name, 15:22:27 07/08/24 Mon (141.sub-174-193-194.myvzw.com/174.193.194.141) i think Vanessa (NT) -- No name, 22:04:07 07/08/24 Mon (syn-076-082-048-252.res.spectrum.com/76.82.48.252) Vanessa was born in Tarrytown, Westchester County, NY. (NT) -- No name, 11:43:37 07/09/24 Tue (c-76-31-134-123.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/76.31.134.123) Miss New York 2000, Kelly Falgiano was a native New Yorker, I believe. (NT) -- No name, 19:21:53 07/09/24 Tue (NoHost/172.59.217.243)

Subject: My Top 5: Miss USA 2024
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 16:17:10 07/08/24 Mon (172-13-130-188.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/172.13.130.188) In alphabetical order: California Georgia Kentucky New Jersey Texas Alternate: Hawaii, New York, Pennsylvania [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Oregon will absolutely be there (NT) -- No name, 17:53:45 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/104.28.116.107) California has been my Miss USA 2024 winner since she was crowned, crazy how the next Miss USA in less than one month. (NT) -- VE, 18:33:36 07/08/24 Mon (91.indianapolis-11rh16rt.in.dial-access.att.net/12.74.55.91) I think Ohio is a Top Five contender. (NT) -- No name, 14:36:28 07/09/24 Tue (syn-108-178-156-027.biz.spectrum.com/108.178.156.27) Top picks (no particular order) - NC, KY, DE, GA, NE, MS, WA. (NT) -- No name, 18:46:22 07/09/24 Tue (NoHost/206.171.115.6)

Subject: Miss VA questions.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:33:00 07/01/24 Mon (as5800-82-129.access.naxs.com/216.98.82.129) Hi all! I am new to the MAO VA pageant circuit. Attended a few locals and the state pageant to get a feel for the org, as I come from a Bible Belt super southern pageant state. It definitely seems more laidback here from what I’ve seen. Just wondering about the boards, girls, etc. where I am from the state board and even some locals can be shady — i assume it is just inevitable. Just wanted to ask about insight on the MAO VA system. Thank you in advance! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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What did the state board and locals do that was shady? The state and locals you previously competed in. (NT) -- No name, 22:47:52 07/01/24 Mon (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) I am referencing MAO NC pre 2.0. I am on the older end and MAO NC has completely changed from what I have heard from girls I formerly competed with. (NT) -- No name, 19:17:31 07/02/24 Tue (as5800-82-129.access.naxs.com/216.98.82.129) Not laid back, but they are having issues with keeping LD’s. If you can compete elsewhere, you would be better off. They reward reputation. (NT) -- Unless you have a name in pageantry, try another state., 11:33:58 07/02/24 Tue (NoHost/107.116.79.9) That would make sense. Thank you for your insight! Do you have any locals you would recommend? I spend about 90% of my year in VA and would prefer to compete here. (NT) -- No name, 19:19:18 07/02/24 Tue (as5800-82-129.access.naxs.com/216.98.82.129) Definitely having trouble keeping locals, which is a reflection on the state and the fact that they continue to play favorites with certain LEDs. Sadly, they have and will continue to lose some very good directors because they aren't as important as other locals, they just fill the piggy bank. I would encourage you to reach out to the girls and ask about some of the locals to get their take, I know my feelings about who is the best for any given reason (click in), but the girls can share their experiences. -- Observations from the week, 13:11:55 07/02/24 Tue (64.124.192.2.IDIA-270212-ZYO.zip.zayo.com/64.124.192.2) So wrong… -- No name, 13:30:02 07/02/24 Tue (185-177-125-65.hosted-by-worldstream.net/185.177.125.65) Yes, they do play favorites. But I think it’s because the state board doesn’t know what to do and rely on one particular group to help. (NT) -- That has gone on for a very long time., 13:34:56 07/02/24 Tue (NoHost/107.116.79.9) THANK YOU! This is incredibly helpful :) ! I appreciate it, truly. I am hoping to have a better experience here in VA. (NT) -- No name, 19:21:53 07/02/24 Tue (as5800-82-129.access.naxs.com/216.98.82.129) If I were you, I would not leave NC. (NT) -- No name, 09:13:38 07/04/24 Thu (NoHost/172.58.252.106) If you have a strong interview you will do well at any local in Virginia. The bitter sucking sound you hear is generally from people who think their girls have great interviews when in actuality they are average. With maybe one exception in the last 15 years, the strongest interviews at Miss Virginia are in the top 5. The people who are unhappy with the top 5 always know 5 other girls who would have been better choices, they just can’t name them. This year is a good example. Then, everything was fixed for one local but yet - that’s not even the girl that won. Do your best and you’ll be fine: (NT) -- No name, 11:32:02 07/04/24 Thu (pool-173-79-116-75.washdc.fios.verizon.net/173.79.116.75) Va needs to stop going off of just interview base though, they haven’t done anything in the past 3 years at Miss America due to them always picking the strongest interview when the other 70% is eh. I don’t believe the new Miss va will do anything at MA but it’s a shady program and unless you go to one local have fun. She also did not win because they knew if they crowned that one girl there would be no mor local ED’s. She’s not nice and neither are her local ED’s the stories people could tell you about those is crazyyy. Very much mean girls and think they’re better than everybody (NT) -- No name, 15:18:57 07/04/24 Thu (pool-68-131-119-228.nrflva.fios.verizon.net/68.131.119.228) How do you know this? (NT) -- No name, 15:30:24 07/04/24 Thu (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) Ever since she was crowned everyone knew she was going to be miss va, and none of the local ED’s could deal with it especially if that local went 3 years in a row. I know those local ED’s are mean because I’ve seen it first hand, and the way the pick favorites and treat certain girls is crazy (NT) -- No name, 16:58:16 07/04/24 Thu (pool-68-131-119-228.nrflva.fios.verizon.net/68.131.119.228) I know for certain some of the people writing the negative comments about the Arlington group have daughters who are the same age as the women in the Arlington group .. how embarrassing? They are an objectively attractive group of well put together and successful women who have done very well for themselves in a short amount of time in the program and in their careers. They have the personal financial means and the business acumen to run a successful program that a lot of the other boards who consist of much older volunteers who have been in the game significantly longer do not and they look good doing it with matching outfits at the shows. It is easy to dislike them or be threatened or intimidated by them. They have the strongest prep program in the state by far and deep pockets to help with expenses (NT) -- #, 21:11:12 07/04/24 Thu (claugerrie.org/142.54.160.86) At the end for the day Chipband his groupies suck get rid of them thten miss Va can come back as winners -- Pissed off, 21:44:05 07/08/24 Mon (pool-68-131-119-228.nrflva.fios.verizon.net/68.131.119.228) Who are Chipand his groupies? (NT) -- Dig, 08:02:42 07/09/24 Tue (c-73-147-76-28.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.147.76.28) You'll have to click in!! -- Blair (a proud Chip groupie), 08:56:29 07/09/24 Tue (NoHost/137.184.212.110) If the “fix” was in it was to keep the Big 3 from winning the pageant at all since so many folks are claiming conspiracy. “They couldn’t let that local win again” , what does that sound like to you? The reality Arlington has been getting the most competing girls since the early 2000s it’s a mini Miss Virginia with a dynasty of state tittle holders to show for it. The girls are going to compete where they think they have the best chance (prep team etc.) at winning. It’s the same with sports, a D1 athlete is likely going to go play at a Big 10 school before some random state college, are college sports now rigged too because the same teams have proven to be the most competitive? While I understand it hurts to not see your baby win, take off the rose colored glasses and ask yourselves the real question, in a competition where the caliber of contestant has been on the decline overall in the last 10 years, how many girls are really better than the 3 that crew brings each year? Be for real (NT) -- The cream of the curdle, 09:15:39 07/09/24 Tue (76.sub-174-216-50.myvzw.com/174.216.50.76) These last two posts make perfect sense to me, an outsider who has no dog in the fight. The sports analogy is especially accurate. Once in a while, a smaller local can come through and win Miss Virginia (examples Martinsville and Mountain Empire) have each won within the past 20 years) but more often than not, the larger programs are going to be better equipped to prepare a contestant for state. From what I understand, other states have their dominant locals, so it is not just an issue in Virginia. On the national level, fans use the term "sash states," so there logically have to also be "sash locals." (NT) -- No name, 09:52:32 07/09/24 Tue (216-98-91-178.access.naxs.com/216.98.91.178) It is two specific people claiming the pageant was fixed repeatedly posting. The repeat posters have IP addresses in Newport News, VA from a 23601 (approximate) area code and Charlotte, NC with a 28212 (approximate) area code who are on a witch hunt (NT) -- , 10:54:19 07/09/24 Tue* (NoHost/65.19.154.249)

Subject: What's the news out of Miss Washington so far?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:57:31 07/05/24 Fri (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Preliminaey winners: Gown - Reagan Rebstock & Hermona Girmay. Talent - Hermona & Madison Zantello (NT) -- No name, 00:48:17 07/06/24 Sat (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) Hermona Girmay sparkles in her interview photo and was a double prelim winner. She really impresses me! (NT) -- No name, 01:02:09 07/06/24 Sat (c-76-23-211-61.hsd1.ma.comcast.net/76.23.211.61) Shocked by Hermonas gown win. I watched the stream and had 3 girls scored higher for gown, but I wasn't in the private interview so she could have won them over. Her on stage question was not as strong as I was expecting. I'm keeping an eye on Winkleman, Haung and Faulk in addition to the prelim winners. (NT) -- No name, 03:19:48 07/06/24 Sat (NoHost/107.116.255.127) who won (NT) -- No name, 22:31:52 07/06/24 Sat (syn-076-082-048-252.res.spectrum.com/76.82.48.252) Hermona won. Does anyone know runners up & top 11? (NT) -- No name, 06:54:41 07/07/24 Sun (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) Click In for results -- No name, 16:18:28 07/07/24 Sun (c-76-28-186-204.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/76.28.186.204) How many times has Amber been first runner up? (NT) -- No name, 23:49:41 07/08/24 Mon (104.244.142.154.cnsnext.com/104.244.142.154) Twice, she was unplaced in 2022 and 1RU last year. (NT) -- No name, 00:07:02 07/09/24 Tue (c-76-121-17-200.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/76.121.17.200) Prelim and Finals night streams are available on the Miss WA website. Big congrats to the production team, they have really stepped up the show quality in the last few years- the stage was beautiful! (NT) -- No name, 03:24:04 07/09/24 Tue (NoHost/172.56.106.152)

Subject: Miss Colorado Delegates
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 21:29:47 07/03/24 Wed (NoHost/194.34.105.126) https://www.spotfund.com/teams/misscopeopleschoice2024 21 Miss [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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It's like the half of Colorado USA contestant pool with 45 (actually 44 had competed last weekend). (NT) -- No name, 22:25:22 07/03/24 Wed (NoHost/180.190.31.117) What? (NT) -- No name, 09:51:06 07/04/24 Thu (NoHost/46.37.116.111) Because the USA system and MAO system are different. USA system now allow more women to compete like married women, mothers, and even widowed with age restrictions removed. MAO still has the age restriction process but unlike the USA counterpart, married women and mothers are forbidden to compete. (NT) -- No name, 22:29:55 07/04/24 Thu (NoHost/180.190.123.181) My goodness, Abby Dennis looks like she wants to invite me to a couch in the back room……some very odd headshots…… (NT) -- No name, 22:29:31 07/03/24 Wed (NoHost/194.195.93.49) I thought you were exaggerating but holy cow that’s bad! Not the kind of headshot for a role model to young girls. (NT) -- No name, 23:10:20 07/03/24 Wed (NoHost/162.255.45.106) Why the hate on Dennis? I'll admit, it does not look like a typical MAO headshot, but just the same as every other USA headshot I've seen. No more sexual than the others. (NT) -- No name, 22:22:51 07/08/24 Mon (94.sub-174-247-0.myvzw.com/174.247.0.94) Because this is a Miss America headshot, this is not Miss USA?! Very different brand needs for presentation -- No name, 22:32:34 07/08/24 Mon (c-107-2-183-252.hsd1.co.comcast.net/107.2.183.252) The open mouth, the severe photoshop, the strapless shirt that makes her look naked. Should I go on? (NT) -- No name, 22:51:23 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/212.46.33.175) Did nobody tell you (or her) that this isn’t a USA pageant? I’m sure Colorado USA would love to have her! Not an appropriate headshot for MAO. (NT) -- No name, 23:36:33 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/64.40.156.129) who from the class did USA? They must have gotten the pageants confused (NT) -- No name, 23:19:12 07/03/24 Wed (syn-076-082-048-252.res.spectrum.com/76.82.48.252) Only one girl did Colorado USA, Giovanne Wilson. (NT) -- No name, 23:34:31 07/03/24 Wed (NoHost/107.123.1.128) Based on the headshots, Allison Harrison has that winning look and is a standout. How is her talent and other competition categories? (NT) -- No name, 10:08:34 07/04/24 Thu (syn-071-085-121-004.res.spectrum.com/71.85.121.4) Could not disagree more. Her headshot looks scary to me. (NT) -- No name, 11:09:11 07/04/24 Thu (NoHost/23.227.142.227) Allison has been competing for 3 years in Colorado but also competed in two others states, she is notoriously not very friendly and her talent is not very good. She comes across aggressive on stage. I think she could be in the 5 but doesn’t have the personality it takes to win. (NT) -- No name, 13:09:49 07/04/24 Thu (NoHost/107.123.1.17) Thank you for the honest assessment of Allison. What about Alexandra Lotco & Kenzie Jensen? Their headshots are standouts as well. Do they posess the skills in each phase to be overall contenders? (NT) -- No name, 17:17:00 07/04/24 Thu (syn-071-085-121-004.res.spectrum.com/71.85.121.4) Kenzie fell flat last year but seems a lot more polished now than she did before last year’s competition. Alexandra has never competed so it’s hard to know how she’ll do. I’ve heard from some of the girls that Makencie Cline is very nice and is polished. She’s new too. Also agree with the Allison Harrison comments, she’s not nice, her talent is mediocre, and she comes off harsh on stage. -- No name, 18:17:06 07/04/24 Thu (c-107-2-183-252.hsd1.co.comcast.net/107.2.183.252) That red lipstick is God awful. Yuck. (NT) -- No name, 21:49:54 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/23.227.141.155) Does anyone know anyone about the teens competing? (NT) -- No name, 13:27:04 07/04/24 Thu (NoHost/172.59.224.219) Click in -- No name, 17:41:44 07/04/24 Thu (NoHost/192.119.160.88) How many girls are returning vs new? Anybody that has competed in other states? Who are the returning girls and what are their previous placements? I am excited to see who Miss America will crown next!! (NT) -- No name, 18:40:13 07/04/24 Thu (NoHost/184.174.5.188) Returning Miss are Elizabeth Melachrinoudis, Kenzie Jensen, Allison Harrison, and Audrey Montes. From other states I don’t know all but Danielle Weniger’s socials say she’s been competing in MAO for 9 years. We know Miss America will be there but guessing that Sarah Swift, current Miss Colorado will crown. -- No name, 21:30:08 07/04/24 Thu (c-107-2-183-252.hsd1.co.comcast.net/107.2.183.252) Melachrinoudis, what a name for the emcee LOL (NT) -- No name, 21:44:55 07/04/24 Thu (NoHost/192.119.164.45) It is for a competition (NT) -- No name, 13:39:33 07/05/24 Fri (140.sub-174-193-195.myvzw.com/174.193.195.140) Huh? (NT) -- No name, 14:38:57 07/05/24 Fri (62.syracuse-06rh15rt.ny.dial-access.att.net/12.75.117.62) does anyone have any predictions for the teens? (NT) -- No name, 17:39:46 07/05/24 Fri (c-73-153-80-43.hsd1.co.comcast.net/73.153.80.43)

Subject: Would someone start a thread about NY? I’m very interested in your opinions. I don’t know many of them, but a few look amazing. I’d like to keep it positive and hear from some of you! I don’t see any interest in NY on this page anymore and I find that odd, considering they always have a top 10 and produced quite a few winners.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 14:53:36 06/16/24 Sun (syn-024-059-228-197.res.spectrum.com/24.59.228.197) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Who is competing? (NT) -- No name, 00:09:52 06/17/24 Mon (136-54-199-223.googlefiber.net/136.54.199.223) 25 delegates will be competing in New York, around seven times less than its USA counterpart. https://miss-newyork.org/miss-program/2024-miss/ (NT) -- No name, 07:23:20 06/17/24 Mon (NoHost/180.190.30.230) I hope NY will take some of the $ they make from their frequent “fundraisers” and provide decent scholarships for their contestants (NT) -- No name, 08:10:49 06/17/24 Mon (syn-067-052-015-164.biz.spectrum.com/67.52.15.164) Some of the returners are Michelle Ley, Gayle Petrie and Chelsea Lovell (NT) -- No name, 12:05:20 06/17/24 Mon (mobile-166-194-188-113.mycingular.net/166.194.188.113) Who are frontrunners? (NT) -- No name, 08:57:57 06/18/24 Tue (136-54-199-223.googlefiber.net/136.54.199.223) Top 10 prediction: Upstate NY, Niagara, Gotham, Broadway, Five Boroughs, Finger Lakes, City of NY, Big Apple, and Empire (NT) -- No name, 14:29:23 06/21/24 Fri (136-54-199-223.googlefiber.net/136.54.199.223) I don’t know all the titles at this point but I see a lot of returning top 10 from last year. (NT) -- No name, 22:26:40 06/23/24 Sun (syn-024-059-228-197.res.spectrum.com/24.59.228.197) Miss Liberty Mina Liang will be in the top 3. (NT) -- No name, 15:17:00 06/25/24 Tue (NoHost/32.212.209.35) Empire was an OT at KY. (NT) -- No name, 21:20:08 07/04/24 Thu (h90.202.117.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/75.117.202.90) What are their names? (NT) -- No name, 22:39:24 07/04/24 Thu (pool-100-37-18-189.nycmny.fios.verizon.net/100.37.18.189) They have had wonderful winners, but their pageant is the worst I have ever attended (NT) -- No name, 22:56:49 06/23/24 Sun (NoHost/12.221.110.194) What are the scholarship amounts given? How much did the current Miss NY win last year? (NT) -- No name, 10:05:43 06/24/24 Mon (NoHost/172.58.183.142) I believe NY has multiple former teens competing as well (NT) -- No name, 14:18:35 06/25/24 Tue (syn-098-004-040-094.res.spectrum.com/98.4.40.94) I believe NY has multiple former teens competing as well -- No name, 13:52:26 06/26/24 Wed (NoHost/172.59.212.180) Top ten predictions? (NT) -- No name, 19:01:55 06/28/24 Fri (syn-024-059-228-197.res.spectrum.com/24.59.228.197) They check in today. Who are frontrunners? (NT) -- No name, 08:15:28 07/02/24 Tue (mobile-166-198-021-134.mycingular.net/166.198.21.134) Miss NY is boasting again on IG that another fundraiser has raised “thousands of dollars” for scholarships. Yet, the contestants get the lowest amounts in the country. Is this year going to be different? (NT) -- No name, 09:27:05 07/02/24 Tue (NoHost/172.59.193.222) Prelim Winners from night 1? (NT) -- No name, 20:56:50 07/04/24 Thu (pool-100-37-18-189.nycmny.fios.verizon.net/100.37.18.189) Talent: Miss Empire, Abigail Quammen; Gown: Miss Liberty, Mina Liang; Fitness: Miss Manhattan, Aundria Littlejohn. (NT) -- No name, 07:07:06 07/05/24 Fri (syn-192-181-132-150.res.spectrum.com/192.181.132.150) I looked at their website. Tons of tickets left, but no word about watching online (NT) -- No name, 21:15:52 07/04/24 Thu (pool-98-113-202-63.nycmny.fios.verizon.net/98.113.202.63) Live stream for Finals only I believe. (NT) -- No name, 22:37:48 07/04/24 Thu (pool-100-37-18-189.nycmny.fios.verizon.net/100.37.18.189) Where is the live stream information? (NT) -- No name, 03:13:06 07/05/24 Fri (174-20-118-131.mpls.qwest.net/174.20.118.131) Can someone please list who is competing in what preliminaries tonight? Thanks! (NT) -- No name, 22:58:51 07/04/24 Thu (syn-107-013-036-240.res.spectrum.com/107.13.36.240) LIVE STREAM LINK: https://maestro.tv/missnewyorkorg/missnewyork2024 (NT) -- No name, 07:59:03 07/05/24 Fri (host-177-194.flwgflc.wintergardens.fl.us.clients.pavlovmedia.net/153.33.177.194) The prelim winners are all from the same organization. One of them will be the winner (NT) -- No name, 08:50:29 07/05/24 Fri (c-71-58-250-155.hsd1.pa.comcast.net/71.58.250.155) find link -- No name, 11:44:59 07/05/24 Fri (c-24-127-39-218.hsd1.mi.comcast.net/24.127.39.218) Possibly. But They are using the same scoring as Miss A and that’s not what happened there. (NT) -- No name, 15:28:15 07/05/24 Fri (NoHost/108.145.161.114) Prelim Winners from Night 2: Talent: Yancy Garcia, Gown: Abby Quamann, Fitness: Gabriella Marinelli (NT) -- No name, 21:54:25 07/05/24 Fri (pool-100-37-18-189.nycmny.fios.verizon.net/100.37.18.189) Predictions for teen? (NT) -- No name, 08:15:24 07/06/24 Sat (c-73-186-179-1.hsd1.ma.comcast.net/73.186.179.1) Three people from Texas are on the Miss New York judges panel: Miss Texas 2006 Shilah Phillips, local director Ricardo Tomas and retailer Chuck Steelmen. Moreover, New York ED Sloane Lewis judged Tomas’ contestant just last week in Miss Texas. She got 3rd runner-up. This speaks volumes about the Miss New York and Miss Texas Organizations. (NT) -- No name, 13:44:42 07/06/24 Sat (75-30-250-233.lightspeed.dllstx.sbcglobal.net/75.30.250.233) I'm confused why this is a problem, can someone explain (NT) -- No name, 16:32:44 07/06/24 Sat (104-179-20-249.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net/104.179.20.249) This is how they do it. They choose judges that they know, they judge for each other. Maybe, it’s all fair but this type of thing makes it look unfair. Miss America needs to stop this practice of judging for each other. It looks bad, even if it’s not. (NT) -- No name, 22:45:14 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/207.193.220.123) Bump (NT) -- No name, 17:27:14 07/06/24 Sat (pool-71-175-25-133.phlapa.fios.verizon.net/71.175.25.133) Is anyone else waiting on livestream still? Seems odd (NT) -- No name, 18:07:21 07/06/24 Sat (ool-44c0d7ce.dyn.optonline.net/68.192.215.206) Yes. Waiting. (NT) -- No name, 18:08:40 07/06/24 Sat (174-20-191-146.mpls.qwest.net/174.20.191.146) I still cannot locate the livestream? (NT) -- No name, 18:11:41 07/06/24 Sat (mobile-107-77-235-226.mobile.att.net/107.77.235.226) Why is everything so shady and complicated with them??? (NT) -- No name, 18:13:33 07/06/24 Sat (ool-44c0d7ce.dyn.optonline.net/68.192.215.206) extremely shady (NT) -- xtex, 18:15:54 07/06/24 Sat (syn-035-146-108-159.res.spectrum.com/35.146.108.159) Nothing shady - their production team is running behind, they are about to go live any minute now -- -, 18:21:24 07/06/24 Sat (pool-96-242-88-28.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net/96.242.88.28) Working now (6:22) Shilah Phillips is singing the National Anthem (NT) -- No name, 18:24:57 07/06/24 Sat (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) I already registered for the livestream, but when I try to access it, it says I need to register. Not seeing anything. (NT) -- No name, 18:44:46 07/06/24 Sat (184-100-150-88.lcrs.qwest.net/184.100.150.88) Judges can be part of the show? (NT) -- No name, 19:45:28 07/06/24 Sat (pool-100-37-18-189.nycmny.fios.verizon.net/100.37.18.189) Top 10 yet??? (NT) -- No name, 19:59:17 07/06/24 Sat (mobile-107-77-235-226.mobile.att.net/107.77.235.226) MNY Results -- No name, 20:58:20 07/06/24 Sat (pool-100-37-18-189.nycmny.fios.verizon.net/100.37.18.189)

Subject: In this years class who is a former Outstanding teen? please include the year I know miss NY was Kentuckys ot in 2017
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 02:02:58 07/07/24 Sun (syn-076-082-048-252.res.spectrum.com/76.82.48.252) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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List -- Click in, 02:22:02 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/180.190.214.228) from c/i - AK - Jordan Naylor 2012; HI- Haley Chaney-Kane 2013; ID- Madison Andreason 2021; WI - Mandi Genord 2018 ... adding OR - Abby Hoppe 2016 (NT) -- No name, 09:26:34 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/146.75.136.1) Missouri - Ashley Berry was Miss Missouri’s OT 2021 (NT) -- No name, 09:45:10 07/07/24 Sun (host-177-194.flwgflc.wintergardens.fl.us.clients.pavlovmedia.net/153.33.177.194) Thanks a lot. There are now seven OTs. Let's see if Annika B wins Montana next weekend. (NT) -- No name, 09:54:31 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/180.190.30.205) Arkansas Camille Cathy was AR OT 18 (NT) -- No name, 10:28:03 07/07/24 Sun (pool-68-131-119-228.nrflva.fios.verizon.net/68.131.119.228) Current Miss KY- Chapel Tinius was KY OT in 2016 (NT) -- No name, 10:49:24 07/07/24 Sun (h90.202.117.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/75.117.202.90) List (updated) -- Click in, 11:53:30 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/180.190.31.81) AK: Jordan Naylor (2012) AR: Camille Cathy (2018) HI: Haley Chaney-Kane (2013) ID: Madison Andreason (2021) KY: Chapel Tinius (2016) MO: Ashley Berry (2021) NY: Abigail Quammen (2017/KY) OR: Abigail Hoppe (2016) WI: Mandi Genord (2018) (NT) -- No name, 12:58:47 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/104.28.116.90) can someone post a photo of Camile when she won HIOT and Ashley OROT and Mandi WIOT (NT) -- No name, 19:59:40 07/07/24 Sun (syn-076-082-048-252.res.spectrum.com/76.82.48.252) Pennsylvania, Page Weinstein She was PA OT in 2016 or 2017 I believe (NT) -- No name, 20:36:52 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/172.56.220.148) She was PA OT 2014, this now have 10 former OTs in MAO class of 2024. (NT) -- No name, 21:21:01 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/120.28.64.154)

Subject: Miss Virginia arrivals
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:36:55 06/24/24 Mon (ip184-178-92-159.rn.hr.cox.net/184.178.92.159) Who stood out today? Predictions? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Former OT Emily Kinsey and current Miss Arlington is the clear favorite heading into prelims. (NT) -- ureka smoke, 09:59:17 06/25/24 Tue (ip98-169-228-239.dc.dc.cox.net/98.169.228.239) Any predictions?? -- Miss VA, 12:41:40 06/27/24 Thu (NoHost/104.28.32.229) VA Predictions -- No name, 10:39:13 06/28/24 Fri (NoHost/24.249.77.90) If Emmy wins VA this weekend, this will be the first time that both former titleholders transitioning to Miss in the state on having their Teen title previously. Himanvi Panidepu, the recently crowned Miss Virginia USA, she was Miss Virginia Teen USA when Emmy crowned VA OT and lasted for four months until Himanvi's reign in Teen ended. (NT) -- No name, 11:03:21 06/28/24 Fri (NoHost/111.90.202.209) So who won the Thursday night prelims? (NT) -- No name, 12:16:12 06/28/24 Fri (216-98-91-178.access.naxs.com/216.98.91.178) Whitbeck won Talent and Turner won On-Stage Question (NT) -- No name, 12:40:04 06/28/24 Fri (NoHost/162.243.118.22) Agreed, but I would replace Virginia Dogwood with Hampton-Newport News. (NT) -- No name, 12:45:21 06/28/24 Fri (NoHost/162.243.118.22) I feel like Breanna Turner has a good shot at winning. Love Emily, too. I can see them as top 2. But lots of new girls so can’t say for sure. (NT) -- Miss va, 13:29:13 06/28/24 Fri (NoHost/146.75.222.236) Miss Virginia Top 5 Miss Blue Ridge, Carlher Swanson Miss Arlington, Emily Kinsey Miss Lynchburg, Susanna Shedd Miss Loudoun County, Breana Turner Miss Northern Virginia, Madison Whitbeck -- Top 5, 22:13:54 06/29/24 Sat (NoHost/104.28.32.228) Miss Virginia 2024 is Carlehr Swanson! (NT) -- Miss VA, 22:43:59 06/29/24 Sat (NoHost/104.28.32.228) She was spectacular. I thought her and Lynchburg would be the last standing. Lynchburg is only 19 — hoping she returns! (NT) -- No name, 00:28:34 06/30/24 Sun (mobile-166-196-103-082.mycingular.net/166.196.103.82) Did she perform "A Change Is Gonna Come" ? That's what she did in 2023. (NT) -- No name, 00:37:38 06/30/24 Sun (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) Carlehr played the piano and sang Aretha's Natural Woman. This was something like her 7th or 8th time competing. Breana was first runnerup, Emily second, followed by Lynchburg and Northern Virginia. She (NoVa) was a powerhouse Broadway vocalist who seemed solid in the other areas and I thought she would place higher. For most of the evening it looked like it would come down to Emily and Breana. Carlehr did not seem to have the spunk and charisma that they did, but then again it is all about the interview. (NT) -- No name, 09:51:07 06/30/24 Sun (216-98-91-178.access.naxs.com/216.98.91.178) Breana Turner (Miss Loudoun County) won overall interview. Miss VA did not announce other overall awards as normal… you could see it on the teleprompter but the emcees were instructed to skip over announcing those awards. Seems fishy… -- No name, 10:21:21 06/30/24 Sun (wsip-70-166-72-190.rn.dc.cox.net/70.166.72.190) They also were missing the fifth finalist for Miss. when they had to have the auditor or whoever come up. And some of the teen awards out of order. Definitely odd. (NT) -- No name, 12:50:12 06/30/24 Sun (mobile-166-196-103-082.mycingular.net/166.196.103.82) Correction to my earlier comment......this was Carlehr's sixth time at Miss Virginia, dating back to her first appearance in 2015. There have been some other six-timers, with one contestant trying seven times. As for Breana, it was her fourth attempt and in her most recent three, she has gone 3rd runner-up, 2nd runner-up and now 1st runner-up. So you would think that would motivate her to come back if she has further eligibility. (NT) -- No name, 15:23:59 06/30/24 Sun (216-98-91-178.access.naxs.com/216.98.91.178) No. -- Motivation, 15:50:42 06/30/24 Sun (mobile-166-199-140-031.mycingular.net/166.199.140.31) “So you would think” shady asf. (NT) -- No name, 16:00:35 06/30/24 Sun (mobile-166-199-140-031.mycingular.net/166.199.140.31) She ages out, Top 5 was questionable tbh. Seems like VA only wants a good state representative instead of someone who could actually do something at Miss America. From what I heard was 1st and 2nd runner up weren’t nice at all this past week. The winner was okay with the girls but not super inviting. I wonder how final ballot worked into this group of the 5 (NT) -- No name, 21:17:30 06/30/24 Sun (pool-68-131-119-228.nrflva.fios.verizon.net/68.131.119.228) As someone who has competed with Carlehr, she is extremely sweet and genuine (NT) -- No name, 21:26:10 06/30/24 Sun (NoHost/212.46.33.153) As someone who competed with Breana I don’t know who said she wasn’t nice all week. That’s a lie. (NT) -- No name, 21:30:08 06/30/24 Sun (ip24-252-134-169.rn.hr.cox.net/24.252.134.169) Emily and Breana weren’t nice? Where did you hear this? (NT) -- Curious, 21:03:38 07/01/24 Mon (NoHost/104.28.32.229) WHO CARES if they aren’t nice at a COMPETITION!!! In what other competitive arena are the competitors expected to be sunshine and rainbows instead of eye on the prize? (NT) -- The only people they need to be nice to are the folks they serve post win., 15:54:49 07/02/24 Tue (247.sub-174-193-92.myvzw.com/174.193.92.247) It actually matters quite a bit. If you truly believe that, then you are missing the entire premise of Miss America and who Miss America should be. Do you honestly think Madison Marsh was rude and stand-offish during the Miss America competition? I’m sorry, but the rude girls don’t win. (NT) -- Nope, 19:19:15 07/02/24 Tue (NoHost/104.28.32.229) In some states, rude and mean girls do actually win! I have personal experience in that category, so I can speak on that. This is why " Leadership " matters! If the states pagent program director doesn't have leadership skills set into place throughout the program. They are setting everyone up for failure! In more ways than one, and it's always the contestants who suffer the most because of their gross negligence. (NT) -- No name, 01:46:36 07/05/24 Fri (ec2-54-206-146-145.ap-southeast-2.compute.amazonaws.com/54.206.146.145) Top 5 was very questionable this year, but Virginia always has shocking things happen. No one should be surprised that a strong Miss America competitor isn’t coming out of Virginia. -- No real surprises, 22:07:06 07/01/24 Mon (ip68-225-137-93.nc.hr.cox.net/68.225.137.93) The results from the pageant were extremely questionable at best. They put a new board in place and from the day one particular local crowned their titleholders, there were directors threatening to quit due to this board’s consistent track record and contestant numbers and a controversy around them being allowed to award sweeps titles. There were inappropriate comments made on contestant information sessions intended to ease concerns about a front runner from that particular group that was inappropriate. I think Virginia made a choice to retain the volunteers that they have and deliberately picked a contestant that would appease those other directors who were seeing green as they have struggled to retain EDs. I hope that particular board considers taking their volunteer hours across state lines. Evening gown, fitness, and talent overall awards were not awarded as promised either. (NT) -- Disgusted, 21:31:25 06/30/24 Sun (NoHost/104.236.201.30) That board had 3 of the top 5. 2 of them were prelim winners, and one won overall interview. (NT) -- No name, 21:40:13 06/30/24 Sun (ip24-252-134-169.rn.hr.cox.net/24.252.134.169) That board had 3 far more qualified girls to complete the ABC school tour and at least 2 of them would have easily made the top 10 at Miss America. (NT) -- Virginia’s board prepped the judges to pick someone else to appease the peanut gallery, 22:49:50 06/30/24 Sun (NoHost/104.236.201.30) While I agree that the board you speak of had 3 highly qualified girls standing in the top 5, you overlook the new Miss VA's qualifications: years of participation in the MAO system in VA and FL; prelim talent winner in '22 and '23; OSQ winner this year; Top 5 multiple times; doctoral student at UVA; has brought her Music Is Unity CSI to communities around the country; host of a Sunday morning radio show. Any one of those women standing in that Top 5 would have been a wonderful representative for the state of VA, and while you may have preferred a different winner, do not insinuate that our new winner is unqualified or undeserving of her crown. I hope you will support her throughout her reign. Also please research the term "peanut gallery. It isn't just a cute little nod to Howdy Doody, but rather a throwback to the days of segregation and the Jim Crow era in the south. (NT) -- ~ Jan, 11:02:40 07/01/24 Mon (c-73-152-58-79.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.152.58.79) Instead of peanut gallery, what term would you use instead? (NT) -- No name, 11:36:45 07/01/24 Mon (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) Normally, I'd just say rowdy spectators (NT) -- No name, 12:40:29 07/01/24 Mon (c-73-152-58-79.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.152.58.79) Oh please. 1RU doctoral candidate, women’s health, already engages with sponsors in SW and with the AHA as she has roles in women’s health. (NT) -- No name, 12:40:32 07/01/24 Mon (mobile-166-199-140-043.mycingular.net/166.199.140.43) Oh good Lord, you're reaching. You could probably find a way to turn "The Little Black Dress" into a racial slur. (NT) -- No name, 11:57:08 07/02/24 Tue (91.sub-174-210-66.myvzw.com/174.210.66.91) The results are a direct result of the judges and the board member who picks them. They are personal friends or titleholders from that board member. It is so easy to see why one particular local has so many in the top five when a titleholder or someone who has helped or judged is from that local. The local ED’s need to request that the judges are not from VA and do not have connections with any locals. Until someone new is selected the judges ? The same bias will happen. (NT) -- Why is it so hard to select individuals who do not know the contestants? It’s not., 13:39:59 07/02/24 Tue (NoHost/107.116.79.9) The program book shows the judges are from Hawaii, California, Texas, Maine, Maryland, Washington DC and Virginia. It includes a former Miss VA and a former Miss NY. (NT) -- The judges pictures were wrong but that’s all, 17:30:43 07/02/24 Tue (c-73-250-168-118.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.250.168.118) Expand -- Please, 19:57:07 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/64.225.11.108) All I’m gonna say is VA has always been shady. People picking their best friends to judge when they use to run a local and never took a break is what is crazy. Emily was the front runner but the reaction to her getting 2nd runner up from the other contestants should say something. I thought Madison would’ve had it in that top 5 but again it just seems weird. (NT) -- No name, 08:18:02 07/01/24 Mon (pool-68-131-119-228.nrflva.fios.verizon.net/68.131.119.228) What was the reaction?? (NT) -- Curious, 21:02:38 07/01/24 Mon (NoHost/104.28.32.229) Like they couldn’t have been happier she did not win, she’s not a nice girl and didn’t talk to anyone the entire week. People should know this from her as a teen and preteen (NT) -- No name, 21:52:38 07/01/24 Mon (pool-68-131-119-228.nrflva.fios.verizon.net/68.131.119.228) Oh wow… I could see her having that vibe. I wonder if it shows in her interview/onstage presence. Was shocked she didn’t post more with the other contestants. (NT) -- Wow, 21:57:42 07/01/24 Mon (NoHost/104.28.32.228) Not accurate. She talked to plenty of people, and was in photos. If you want to talk about being mean the current Miss VA fits the bill because she was standoffish all week. (NT) -- No name, 08:49:55 07/02/24 Tue (ip24-252-134-169.rn.hr.cox.net/24.252.134.169) Her local is very standoffish and clique like. She’s young and is just following their lead. (NT) -- This locals goes to other pageants and are rude, so if that’s your mentor what do you expect?, 11:37:47 07/02/24 Tue (NoHost/107.116.79.9) Oh for fucks sake (NT) -- 123, 12:57:26 07/02/24 Tue (pool-108-31-159-98.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.31.159.98) Old ED -- No name, 13:10:10 07/02/24 Tue (185-177-125-65.hosted-by-worldstream.net/185.177.125.65) You mean she pushed to the center of group photos so she’d be the main focus of the photo. She and the other Arlington team girls would shoo contestants away so they wouldn’t photobomb their team pictures. We all saw it. -- Come on now., 11:35:11 07/04/24 Thu (28.sub-174-247-13.myvzw.com/174.247.13.28) Did Miss America attend? I heard nothing (NT) -- No name, 22:53:02 07/01/24 Mon (NoHost/172.59.192.74) Yes she did, it is all over social media. (NT) -- No name, 11:52:07 07/02/24 Tue (NoHost/128.163.8.38) All the money the Miss VA Org paid to have Madison come to their pageant, where does it goes since she doesn’t get a salary ? (NT) -- No name, 15:22:44 07/02/24 Tue (75-104-95-47.mobility.exede.net/75.104.95.47) What are you talking about all the money?? Do you even have a clue what it takes to request Miss America at an appearance? (NT) -- No name, 16:27:19 07/02/24 Tue (NoHost/128.163.8.38) So let’s take “that boards” 3 contestants out of the five (even though one was overall talent & the other overall OSQ) You were trying to tell me that there’s three other girls who were more qualified to be in that five? Name them, because that’s a joke. (NT) -- Bffr, 16:05:53 07/02/24 Tue (247.sub-174-193-92.myvzw.com/174.193.92.247) Easily can name at least 2… and I had that boards 3 in the top 5 I just don’t think the 1st runner up should’ve placed that high in the top 5 when her fitness and gown are 5’s or less. The other 2 should’ve placed higher but Lynchburg shouldn’t have been in that top 5 (NT) -- No name, 17:10:38 07/02/24 Tue (NoHost/172.56.219.153) FFS (NT) -- No name, 17:26:57 07/02/24 Tue (mobile-166-199-140-043.mycingular.net/166.199.140.43) Why do you say that? (NT) -- No name, 20:40:35 07/02/24 Tue (c-73-155-81-253.hsd1.tx.comcast.net/73.155.81.253) We are not doing this -- E (Pissed), 10:18:15 07/06/24 Sat (NoHost/172.59.217.131) We are not doing what? Unless you're the moderator, don't tell the rest of us what we are and are not doing (NT) -- No name, 20:07:22 07/06/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) This is what we are not going to do. 1RU Fitness a 5, evening gown a 5? And why? Because she wasn't a size 0? You could obviously look at her and see she is in the gym and she lifts weights. Muscle definition in arms and legs. Evening gown made to fit her body and accentuate her curves. Just stop it. If she was a 5, then the winner was a negative. No stage presence shown AT ALL especially for someone competing for 10 years. Nevertheless, Miss Swanson won so I hope she has the year she deserves. But we are NOT going to do this about the other contestants or the rest of the Arlington queens. The Miss Virginia program and the Virginia website and social media had information about all the contestants and what they can bring as Miss VA. So instead of getting your information about contestants from this website and word of mouth, do some research of your own. Some contestants have always been walking the walk and talking the talk. Not just for a pageant title. www.becominghealthyher.com (NT) -- E, 10:24:13 07/06/24 Sat (NoHost/172.59.217.131) BUMP. AGREED. (NT) -- No name, 18:12:04 07/06/24 Sat (as5800-82-129.access.naxs.com/216.98.82.129) Congratulations to Carlehr Swanson, Miss Virginia 2024! (NT) -- Fan, 16:08:31 07/02/24 Tue (static-100-36-226-99.washdc.fios.verizon.net/100.36.226.99) I know for certain some of the people writing the negative comments about the Arlington group have daughters who are the same age as the women in the Arlington group .. how embarrassing? They are an objectively attractive group of well put together and successful women who have done very well for themselves in a short amount of time in the program and in their careers. They have the personal financial means and the business acumen to run a successful program that a lot of the other boards who consist of much older volunteers who have been in the game significantly longer do not and they look good doing it with matching outfits at the shows. It is easy to dislike them or be threatened or intimidated by them. They have the strongest prep program in the state by far and deep pockets to help with expenses (NT) -- Just being honest, 20:55:22 07/04/24 Thu (notaku.orthguide.com/107.150.50.126) This was very obviously written by said Arlington team. (NT) -- LOL, 18:28:42 07/05/24 Fri (NoHost/104.28.32.229) BUMP. (NT) -- No name, 10:19:56 07/06/24 Sat (206-248-250-183.bark.dmt.ntelos.net/206.248.250.183) With the age increase for state and national qualification---wonder are there any Miss Virginia local or open contestants who were named in Amy Argetsinger's 2022 pageant book "There She Was" which featured the Miss Virginia contestants when Camille Schrier and Dorothy (Dot) Kelly had competed in 2019---are still competing and any make the 2024 Miss Virginia pageant stage?? It was interesting how Amy covered that state pageant -- not knowing then of course Camille would later become Miss America 2020--and 2021., 19:40:12 07/06/24 Sat (syn-047-225-246-099.biz.spectrum.com/47.225.246.99) Miss VA -- ..., 15:33:20 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/67.205.142.123)

Subject: Miss Teen USA 2024 contestant roster
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 19:42:15 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/180.190.31.81) AL: Ava Marie LeBlanc (Age 18), sister of Miss America's OT 2022 Marcelle LeBlanc AK: Nevaeh James (Age 17) AZ: Rachael McLaen (Age 18) AR: Siyona Karkera (Age 19), first Asian American to win the title CA: Paige Gonor (Age ??) CO: Reece Revious (Age ??) CT: Ava Centelano (Age ??) DE: Kayla Kosmalski (Age 18), first person with down syndrome to win the Teen state title DC: Chelsea Chambers (Age 19) FL: Kennedie Clinton (Age ??) GA: Ava Colindres (Age ??), first biracial person to win the state title HI: Hokuaoka'ale Emma Gilman (Age 19) ID: Alyson "Aly" Feely (Age 19) IL: Arianna Thompson (Age 18) IN: Aleah Dean (Age 17) IA: Grace Smithey (Age 19) KS: Brilee Garrett (Age ??) KY: Karlie Holmen (Age 17) LA: Ava Watson (Age 17) ME: Abigail "Abbey" Hafer (Age 15) MD: Sanjana Yendluri (Age 19) MA: Avery Turner (Age 18) MI: Maddison Lynn Kott (Age 18) MN: Grace Stahl (Age 17) MS: Addison "Addie" Carver (Age 18) MO: Shelby Welling (Age 19) MT: Kailey James Burress (Age 18) NE: Maggie June Wadginski (Age 19), the daughter of Miss Michigan Teen USA 1992 and Miss Nebraska USA 1999 WaLynda Lou Sipple NV: Courtney Clark (Age 17) NH: Tara Marshall (Age ??) NJ: Julia Livoisi (Age 18) NM: Fernanda Yudith Gonzalez (Age 19) NY: Valerie Goorahoo (Age ??) NC: Kaylee Stavlas (Age 17) ND: Jaycee Elle Parker (Age 17) OH: Mackenzie Gibson (Age 18) OK: Megan Lamza (Age 18) OR: Ashlyn Hart (Age ??) PA: Elliot Oliphant (Age 19) RI: Carissa Tillinghast (Age 19) SC: Jules M. Grass (Age 19) SD: Olivia Odenbrett (Age 17), Miss South Dakota's OT 2022 TN: Townsend Blackwell (Age 16) TX: Dallyn Pesek (Age 17) UT: Sofia Forrest-Turner (Age 18) VT: Joslyn McKenna (Age ??) VA: Julia Allen (Age ??) WA: Kendall Beasley (Age 17) WV: Olivia Travis (Age 19), Miss West Virginia's OT 2021 WI: Olivia Negri (Age 17) WY: Aubree Kruger (Age 18) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Sorry for some info that are incorrect, Arianna's middle name is "J" and Jaycee Parker's full name is Jaycee Grace Parker, not Jaycee Elle. (NT) -- No name, 19:50:51 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/180.190.31.81) MA is the daughter of Jennifer Krafve, Miss MA USA 1999 (NT) -- No name, 00:05:53 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/45.88.222.22) That's right. Her and Maggie's mom competed together in Miss USA 1999, neither of them placed in the semis. (NT) -- No name, 00:21:04 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/180.190.31.81) Maggie was Miss Nebraska Teen Volunteer 2024 having competed in Volunteer Teen pageant earlier this year with a second runner-up finish. (NT) -- No name, 00:31:50 07/08/24 Mon (NoHost/180.190.31.81)

Subject: Former Teens at Miss USA 2024
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 23:26:37 07/06/24 Sat (NoHost/209.35.161.164) Arkansas: Madeline Bohlman (Miss Arkansas Teen USA 2021, non-finalist at Miss Teen USA 2021) Louisiana: Sydney Taylor (Miss Louisiana Teen USA 2020, 4th runner-up at Miss Teen USA 2020) Mississippi: Kaylee Brooke McCollum (Miss Mississippi Teen USA 2018, 3rd runner-up at Miss Teen USA 2019) North Carolina: Kenzie Hansley (Miss North Carolina Teen USA 2017, non-finalist at Miss Teen USA 2017) North Dakota: Codi Ann Miller (Miss North Dakota Teen USA 2009, non-finalist at Miss Teen USA 2009) Oklahoma: Danika Christopherson (Miss Oklahoma Teen USA 2020, Top 16 semifinalist at Miss Teen USA 2020) Oregon: Shayla Montgomery (Miss Oregon Teen USA 2020, 1st runner-up at Miss Teen USA 2020) South Carolina: Gracen Grainger (Miss South Carolina Teen USA 2020, Top 16 semifinalist at Miss Teen USA 2020) Virginia: Himanvi Panidepu (Miss Virginia Teen USA 2018, non-finalist at Miss Teen USA 2018) Wisconsin: Tori Trittin (Miss Minnesota Teen USA 2017, non-finalist at Miss Teen USA 2017) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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This marks the first time since 2021 to have three former Teen runners-up, if either of those three could repeat their Teen placements in Miss. The last time that did so were Sydni Dion Bennett Baca (3RU) and Caitlyn Vogel Medalen (1RU) both in 2021. (NT) -- No name, 22:50:12 07/07/24 Sun (NoHost/180.190.31.81)

Subject: What’s happening in Washington?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:20:44 07/06/24 Sat (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Hermona Girmay was listed as the winner in another post. Is that correct? (NT) -- No name, 23:56:17 07/06/24 Sat (c-76-23-211-61.hsd1.ma.comcast.net/76.23.211.61) Yes, Hermona Girmay (formerly Miss Seattle) is the new Miss Washington (NT) -- No name, 00:17:43 07/07/24 Sun (c-76-28-186-204.hsd1.wa.comcast.net/76.28.186.204) Great choice! I really like her, think she could do well at Miss America (NT) -- No name, 00:19:17 07/07/24 Sun (c-76-23-211-61.hsd1.ma.comcast.net/76.23.211.61) What was Hermona's talent and song selection / monologue title? (NT) -- No name, 10:00:42 07/07/24 Sun (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) Home from The Wiz -- Fan, 15:25:01 07/07/24 Sun (170.sub-174-224-83.myvzw.com/174.224.83.170)

Subject: What does your state provide for your titleholder on top of scholarships?
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 08:47:27 07/04/24 Thu (222-134-68-38.clients.gthost.com/38.68.134.222) I know some state titleholders get a car and apartment for the year. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Alabama received $15,000, apartment for twelve months, wardrobe, fitness, dental care, eye care, nail salon, and more. (NT) -- No name, 11:13:30 07/04/24 Thu (23.sub-174-229-16.myvzw.com/174.229.16.23) West Virginia now gets a $4,000 scholarship for their win, and the 4th runner-up gets only $500. The winners of the 2000’s got $10,000+. I think they just started giving cars to the winners starting in 2022. I believe the last Miss WV who got a car was Lisa Bittinger, and lord knows why if you read the news. No apartment for the winner. I think some small sponsorships from local gown and beauty shops but that’s about it. (NT) -- No name, 22:57:11 07/04/24 Thu (NoHost/107.170.58.21) SC received $60,000 in scholarship, a salary AND a Volvo! The best I've seen so far this year. -- No name, 13:12:23 07/06/24 Sat (NoHost/64.53.17.151) That is a life changing scholarship for sure! AND salary!! Wow!! (NT) -- No name, 18:11:01 07/06/24 Sat (as5800-82-129.access.naxs.com/216.98.82.129) Miss Arkansas -- No name, 10:04:32 07/07/24 Sun (172-13-141-137.lightspeed.ltrkar.sbcglobal.net/172.13.141.137)

Subject: Miss USA 2024 State Pageant dates with former state titles and Live Stream Info (Updated as of July 6, 2024)

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March 9:
Tennessee (Christell Foote, Age 24)

March 10:
Maine (Anne Summer Baldridge, Age 25)
Massachusetts (Melissa Queenie Sapini, Age 21)

March 30:
Louisiana (Sydney Taylor, Age 23 [Miss Louisiana Teen USA 2020])

April 6:
Mississippi (Kaylee Brooke McCollum, Age 24 [Miss Mississippi Teen USA 2019])

April 14:
Arkansas (Madeline Marie Bohlman, Age 22 [Miss Arkansas Teen USA 2021])
Connecticut (Shavanna Karoline Clarke, Age 29 [The first woman to win after the age of 28 following age restrictions lifted])
Oklahoma (Danika Christopherson, Age 22 [Miss Oklahoma Teen USA 2020])

April 19:
Hawaii (Breea Rae Yamat, Age 27 [Sister of Miss Hawaii USA 2022 Kiana Coral Yamat])

April 21:
Michigan (Alma Minerva Oralia Cooper, Age 22)

April 28:
Delaware (Alysa D. Bainbridge, Age 25 [Miss Pennsylvania's Outstanding Teen 2016 and Miss Pennsylvania 2022])

May 4:
Oregon (Shayla Montgomery, Age 22 [Miss Oregon Teen USA 2020])

May 12:
North Dakota (Codi Ann Miller, Age 31 [Miss North Dakota Teen USA 2009 and the first woman to win after the age of 30])
South Dakota (Ahmitara Alwal, Age 25)

May 19:
Kentucky (Connor J. Perry, Age 23)

May 25:
Ohio (Macy A. Hudson, Age 24)

May 26:
Illinois (Grace Rodi, Age 24)
Rhode Island (Kaitlynne Santana, Age 21)

May 27:
Arizona (Kristina (K) Johnson, Age 41 [The first woman to win after the age of 40])

June 1:
Alabama (Diane C. Westhoven, Age 21)
Alaska (Breanna C. Schaake, Age 29)
Maryland (Bailey Anne Kennedy, Age 31 [The first transgender woman to win the state title])
West Virginia (Caylie Raeanne Simmons, Age 24)

June 8:
Indiana (Stephanie Jean Torres Sullivan, Age 33 [The first married mother to win in any USA state title])

June 9:
New Hampshire (Ariel Michaela Sullivan, Age 28)
Vermont (Samantha Vocatura, Age 27 [Miss World America Vermont 2023])

June 15:
Georgia (Emmaline Jo Farmer, Age 24)
North Carolina (McKenzie (Kenzie) Lee Hansley, Age 25 [Miss North Carolina's Outstanding Teen 2015 and Miss North Carolina Teen USA 2017])
South Carolina (Ava Gracen Grainger, Age 23 [Miss South Carolina Teen USA 2020])
Wisconsin (Victoria Diane Trittin, Age 22 [Miss Minnesota Teen USA 2017])

June 16:
Kansas (Bella Barclay Whitlock, Age 19 [Miss Kansas Volunteer Teen 2023])
Missouri (Ashleigh Lorene Bedwell, Age 25)
Montana (Shelby Dangerfield, Age 30)

June 22:
Texas (Tala Aarieanna Ware, Age 26)

June 23:
California (Samantha Ramos, Age 24)
Idaho (Kaitlyn Widmyer aka Kit Stackz, Age 28)
Iowa (McKenzie Ariana Kerry, Age 25)
Minnesota (Muna Ali, Age 27)
New Jersey (Jabili Kandula, Age 24)
Virginia (Himanvi Preeti Panidepu, Age 24 [Miss Virginia Teen USA 2018])

June 27:
Washington (Tiffany Ann Rea, Age 27 [Miss United States 2020])

June 29:
District of Columbia (Kleo Torres, Age 26)
Pennsylvania (Noni Tana Diarra, Age 23)

June 30:
Colorado (Jessica (Jessi) Kalambayi, Age 26)
Nebraska (Kamryn Buchanan, Age 25)
Nevada (Najah Ali, Age 23)
New Mexico (Mackenzie Lee Sydow, Age 22)
New York (Marizza Delgado, Age 25 [Miss Earth New York 2022])
Wyoming (Mackenzie Rush, Age ??)

July 6:
Utah (Alyssa Chandler, Age 21)

July 7:
Florida

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Subject: MISS AMERICA TALENTS. As of 4 July 2024.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:27:42 07/04/24 Thu (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) MISS AMERICA TALENTS. As of 4 July 2024. 1. Alabama: Abbie Stockard – Vocal – “You Say” by Lauren Daigle 2. Alaska: Jordan Brielle Naylor -- Ballroom Dance – “A Little Party Never Killed Anybody (All We Got)” by Fergie 3. Arizona: Shailey Sue Ringenbach -- Dance -- ???? 4. Arkansas: Camille Cathey -- Vocal – “If I Had My Way” by Linda Eder 5. California: Kimberly Vernon -- Jazz Dance -- ???? 6. Colorado: 7. Connecticut: Monica Ann Fenwick -- Woodwind: Flute – “Don’t Stop Me Now” by Queen 8. Delaware: Nova Rae Gaffney -- Classical Ballet en Pointe – “Black Swan Variation” 9. District of Columbia: Katie Ann Powell -- Bow-String: Harp – “Baroque Flamenco” by Deborah Henson-Conant 10. Florida: Casana Fink – Dance – “Rescue” by Lauren Daigle 11. Georgia: Ludwidg (LuLu) Louizaire – Vocal – “I Believe in You and Me” by Whitney Houston. 12. Hawaii: Hayley Kaimalie Cheyney-Kane – Hula – “Aloha Wau Ia 'Oe” 13. Idaho: Madison (Madi) Andreason – Dance -- ???? 14. Illinois: Breana Kay Bagley -- Dance -- ???? 15. Indiana: Kalyn Brook Melham – Vocal – “They Just Keep Moving the Line” from “Smash” (???) 16. Iowa: Abigaille Julia (Abi) Batu-Tiako – Vocal -- ???? 17. Kansas: Alexis Smith – Ventriloquism -- ????(Also, does anyone know the name of the ventriloquist dummies?) 18. Kentucky: Chapel Faye Tinius -- Bow-String: Fiddle -- The Devil Went Down to Georgia by The Charlie Daniels Band / Orange Blossom Special by Ervin T. Rouse (???) 19. Louisiana: Olivia Grace George -- Dance – “The Elvis ’68 Comeback Special” (Does anyone know the exact Elvis song?) 20. Maine: Jennie Daley – HERStory – “I Want to Be an Engineer” 21. Maryland: Bridget O’Brien -- Vocal -- ???? 22. Massachusetts: Kiersten Khoury -- HERstory – “Undefined” 23. Michigan: Jenae Clayre Lodewyk -- HERstory – “Rising to the Occasion” 24. Minnesota: Emily Rae Schumacher -- Tap Dance – “Elvis Has Left the Building” (Does anyone know if that is the closing vamp to Elvis’ concerts—You know, the one that has a riff that almost sounds like the theme to “Family Feud”?) 25. Mississippi: Rebecca (Becky) Williams -- Jazz Dance – “Don’t Stop Me Now” by Queen 26. Missouri: Ashley Berry -- Ballet en Pointe – ???? 27. Montana: 28. Nebraska: Raechel Warren -- Artistic Roller Skating – “The Show Must Go On” by Queen 29. Nevada: Karrina Ferris -- Ballet en Pointe -- ???? 30. New Hampshire: Emily Maureen Spencer -- Ballet en Pointe – “One Moment in Time” by Whitney Houston 31. New Jersey: Elizabeth Mendel -- Dance-- ???? 32. New Mexico: Emille Marie Enriquez -- Ballet Folklorico -- ???? 33. New York: 34. North Carolina: Carrie Everett – Vocal – “And I Am Telling You (I’m Not Going)” from Dreamgirls 35. North Dakota: Sophia Richards – Vocal – “La Vie en Rose” by Edith Piaf / Grace Jones 36. Ohio: Stephanie Finoti -- Ballet en Pointe – “Don Quixote” by Marius Petipa and Ludwig Minkus 37. Oklahoma: Lauren Frost -- Contemporary Clogging -- “Hound Dog” (Big Mama version) by Big Mama Thornton 38. Oregon: Abigail Marie Hoppe – Latin Jazz Dance – ???? 39. Pennsylvania: Page MacKenzie Weinstein -- Baton Twirl -- ???? 40. Puerto Rico: 41. Rhode Island: Ali Hornung – Vocal – “Part of Your World” 42. South Carolina: Davis Wash – Vocal – “Ain’t No Sunshine” 43. South Dakota: Joelle Simpson -- Bow-String: Harp – “Harp Cadenza from Tchaikovsky ballet Swan Lake” 44. Tennessee: Carley Jaymes Vogel -- Vocal – “Climb Every Mountain” from “The Sound of Music” 45. Texas: Annette Addo-Yobo – Slam Poetry – “When Andrew Speaks, Autism S.P.E.A.K.S” (Is this the actual name??) 46. Utah: Paris Julia Matthews -- Jazz Dance -- 80’S MEDLEY: ???? 47. Vermont: Meara Seery -- Vocal – “Seven Nation Army” by The White Stripes 48. Virginia: Carlehr Swanson – Vocal / Piano – “Natural Woman” by Aretha Franklin 49. Washington: 50. West Virginia: Jennifer Nicole Reuther -- Lyrical Dance – “Beautiful People” by Ed Sheeran featuring Khalid 51. Wisconsin: Mandi J. Genord -- Jazz Dance – “You Don’t Own Me” by Lesley Gore 52. Wyoming: Baylee Drewry – HERstory – “Miss Drewry, Wrestling Coach” (???) Please reply with any new input or any corrections. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Bump (NT) -- No name, 08:10:48 07/06/24 Sat (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) To the top (NT) -- No name, 08:12:28 07/06/24 Sat (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) Alabama is lyrical dancer. (NT) -- No name, 10:44:53 07/06/24 Sat (c-68-63-16-3.hsd1.al.comcast.net/68.63.16.3) Hawaii is Hulu and vocal. (NT) -- No name, 15:37:09 07/06/24 Sat (NoHost/107.115.171.17) Every fiddler Kentucky has sent makes the first cut, but falls out of the competition after gowns, so the talent never makes the telecast. This year’s winner will be the same without a styling makeover, I believe. (NT) -- No name, 17:11:37 07/06/24 Sat (h116.146.184.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/173.184.146.116) Believe California is "Proud Mary" (NT) -- No name, 17:57:44 07/06/24 Sat (99-166-174-42.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net/99.166.174.42)

Subject: MISS AMERICA’S TEEN TALENTS. As of 4 July 2024.
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 22:39:24 07/04/24 Thu (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) MISS AMERICA’S TEEN TALENTS. As of 4 July 2024. 1. Alabama: Ali Mims -- Opera: Lyric-Soprano – “O mio babbino caro” from Puccini’s Gianni Schicchi 2. Alaska: Meghan Paige Roth -- Lyrical Dance – “Dandelions” by Ruth B 3. Arizona: Vianah Rose Bradt -- Dance --???? 4. Arkansas: Peyton Nicole Bolling – Jazz Dance -- “Man of La Mancha (I, Don Quixote)” from “Man of La Mancha” 5. California: Keira Elizabeth Bixler -- Ballet en Pointe -- “Big Noise from Winnetka” by Gene Krupa 6. Colorado: 7. Connecticut; Camryn Elyse Patton -- Dance -- ???? 8. Delaware: Gabrielle Morgan -- Musical Theatre Lyrical Dance -- ???? 9. District of Columbia: 10. Florida: Ireland Harkins -- Tap Dance – “Ophelia” by The Lumineers 11. Georgia: Carrington Elan Manous -- Lyrical Dance – “I Don’t Know My Own Strength” by Whitney Houston 12. Hawaii: Nicole Taylor McCain -- Lyrical Dance – “Defying Gravity” from “Wicked” 13. Idaho: BrekLynn Pancheri -- Dance -- ???? 14. Illinois: Lucy Kuelper – Vocal -- ???? 15. Indiana: Bella Bauer -- Lyrical Dance -- ???? 16. Iowa: Avery Bradley – Dance – “Voice of God” by David Bowe (not to be confused with David Bowie) 17. Kansas: Averie Mountain -- Cinema Lyrical – “Friend Like Me” from “Aladdin” 18. Kentucky: Mallory Jones – Vocal -- ???? 19. Louisiana: Melissa Le – Piano -- Hungarian Rhapsody by Franz Liszt 20. Maine: Eva Antonia Benjamin – Vocal – “Aleluya (En La Tierra)” by Elevation Worship 21. Maryland: Zoe Zuzak -- Dance -- ???? 22. Massachusetts: Margaret (Maggie) Leighton – Vocal -- “Livin’ On a Prayer” by Bon-Jovi 23. Michigan: Isabelle Lorraine Musk -- Contemporary Dance – “This Version of Me” by ODESZA 24. Minnesota: Brynn Marie Olson -- Jazz Dance -- “Tough Lover” by Etta James or Christina Aguilera. 25. Mississippi: Brooke Elizabeth Bumgarner – Vocal – “Somewhere Over the Rainbow” from “The Wizard of Oz” 26. Missouri: Bridget Caldwell -- Tap Dance – “I Got You (I Feel Good)” by James Brown 27. Montana: 28. Nebraska: Janae Harris -- Dance -- ???? 29. Nevada: Ava Ilitchev -- Lyrical Dance -- ???? 30. New Hampshire: Kylie Laroche – Lyrical Dance – “Wind Beneath My Wings” by Bette Midler. 31. New Jersey: Abigail Mignucci – Vocal – “The Life I've Never Led” from “Sister Act: The Musical” 32. New Mexico: Grace Marie Evans -- Dance -- ???? 33. New York: 34. North Carolina: Kamryn Hollowell -- Clogging – “The Devil Went Down to Georgia” by The Charlie Daniels Band 35. North Dakota: Taylor Christianson -- Ballet en Pointe – “La Esmeralda” (Tambourine Variation) by Jules Perrot 36. Ohio: Allie Gray -- Sign Language -- ???? 37. Oklahoma: Kynlee Schultheis -- Ballet en Pointe -- ???? 38. Oregon: Kendyl-Rae Bartz -- Ventriloquism – “Anything You Can Do (I Can Do Better)” from “Annie Get Your Gun” (Dummy’s name is Sarah) 39. Pennsylvania: Arianna Spurlin -- Tap Dance – “Wings” by Little Mix 40. Puerto Rico: 41. Rhode Island: Payton Blair Mays -- Vocal – “Reflection” from “Mulan” 42. South Carolina: Mary Elle Marchant – Musical Theatre Lyrical Dance – “I Hope I Get It” from “A Chorus Line” 43. South Dakota: Briley Hope Steffensen – Theatre Acro-Dance – “Don’t Lose Ur Head” from “SIX” 44. Tennessee: Leela Kate Beaty -- Dance -- ???? 45. Texas: Macie Grace Krause -- Dance -- ???? 46. Utah: Kira Gardner -- Lyrical Dance – “I Don’t Think About You” by Kelly Clarkson 47. Vermont: Charlee Royer -- Cinema Lyrical Dance – “The Rose” by Bette Midler. 48. Virginia: Cassidy Nicole Lee – Musical Theatre Lyrical Dance -- ???? 49. Washington: Emma Adams – Piano -- “Bohemian Rhapsody” by Queen 50. West Virginia: Demi Delaney Breeden -- Jazz Dance --FOREVER COUNTRY MEDLEY — “Take Me Home, Country Roads” by John Denver / “I Will Always Love You” by Dolly Parton or Whitney Houston 51. Wisconsin: Ella Bey -- Lyrical Dance -- “Stay” by Rhianna featuring Mikky Ekko 52. Wyoming: Carlyn Grace Murray -- Irish Fusion Dance – “Faith” by George Michael Please reply with any new input or any corrections. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Top (NT) -- No name, 08:13:19 07/06/24 Sat (c-73-251-123-73.hsd1.va.comcast.net/73.251.123.73) Ky. has an incredible voice. She did Blue Moon of Kentucky at the state comp. (NT) -- No name, 08:16:18 07/06/24 Sat (108-211-37-164.lightspeed.lsvlky.sbcglobal.net/108.211.37.164)

Subject: Hard to believe the MAO can get it so, so wrong
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 11:31:40 06/22/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) I don't know either of these girls and have no dog in this fight besides being familiar with the accusations through this message board. But a judge GRANTED a restraining order based on evidence and now the MAO accusing the victim of wrongdoing is just not a good look. It reeks of whistleblower retaliation and blaming the victim. Will this organization EVER do something right again??? Story and the MAO official statement here. https://katv.com/news/nation-world/miss-america-organization-robyn-kass-gerji-miss-pennsylvania-scholarship-foundation-death-threats-contract-bullying-restraining-order-residency-washington-dc-june-20-2024 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Also interesting to note that a scholarship pageant can't be bothered to get their punctuation right. It's the Miss Pennsylvania Organization, not the Miss Pennsylvania organization (NT) -- No name, 11:39:45 06/22/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) So people can see the actual death threats this girl sent: (NT) -- screen shots from an on-air interview the victim gave, 14:29:18 06/22/24 Sat (unn-185-156-46-154.datapacket.com/185.156.46.154) Why weren’t criminal charges filed? From what I saw on this message board, only civil charges were brought (NT) -- No name, 14:46:12 06/22/24 Sat (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106) Per Robyn's Instagram, it's being investigated for criminal charges. These are terroristic threats, in my opinion. Absolutely charges should be brought against the perp (NT) -- No name, 14:52:57 06/22/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) She’s working on trying to get the police to file criminally but the officers originally testified that they just took all this as pageant girls being “catty” and didn’t move forward… I’d be shocked if they’re actually looking into it to be honest like they should. If this were a guy sending her threats instead of another woman they would have arrested already. The police told Robyn to pursue civilly so she did and she was granted a protection order with the judge saying that the respondent was responsible for over 15+ incidents including one in person. (NT) -- No name, 15:56:20 06/22/24 Sat (NoHost/104.28.39.154) Something seems off here. Where are her parents? Where is her local ED? Why aren't they demanding the police investigate, considering she has receipts? Or, I'm wondering, was the phone number the threats came from not traceable? So they couldn't validate who was sending the threats? (NT) -- No name, 19:02:58 06/22/24 Sat (static-198-54-135-59.cust.tzulo.com/198.54.135.59) Not everyone has parents/family in their life, let’s not assume (NT) -- No name, 19:43:45 06/22/24 Sat (mobile-166-199-100-094.mycingular.net/166.199.100.94) > or whoever is in their life-- family friends, minister, aunties, coaches, former local titleholders, a pageant friend's parents, HER LOCAL. (NT) -- I didn't have typical parents & they weren't "pageant parents" in any way, 20:12:00 06/22/24 Sat (unn-185-156-46-154.datapacket.com/185.156.46.154) Her local directors were supportive at first until she actually went to the police and filed the reports, then they kind of backed off… to my knowledge (unsure if this is actually true just the rumor) they told one of the girls not to testify in the civil trial because there could be repercussions at the state pageant and then that girl recanted her entire accusation against the bully and told people that Robyn was now lying after already coming forward and saying she was also a victim. Again to my knowledge (unsure if true) this was one of the girls who had been physically assaulted and it was witnessed by a PA local Director who did nothing because they were afraid that their local would be pulled from them. (NT) -- No name, 22:40:05 06/22/24 Sat (NoHost/104.28.132.134) A restraining order wouldn't have been granted if they couldn't trace it (NT) -- No name, 19:55:58 06/22/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Terrible (NT) -- No name, 18:39:41 06/22/24 Sat (100.dallas-16rh15-16rt.tx.dial-access.att.net/12.74.212.100) I don’t buy this at all. Something is def not right here. I’ve watched enough Dateline to know there more to this story. The victim “playing” victim isn’t always the victim. (NT) -- No name, 20:01:51 06/22/24 Sat (104-11-197-119.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net/104.11.197.119) Really? Because a JUDGE agrees the victim is a victim and he or she is privvy to much more information than we are (NT) -- No name, 20:03:26 06/22/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Rumor has it that the Daily Mail is doing a full piece on the story after their TikTok got over 1M views and that more girls are coming forward, with some staying anonymous because they’re afraid they’re going to be sued like they’re threatening to do to Robyn. Personally I would love to see them try and sue her because it would only make them look worse. (NT) -- No name, 22:44:30 06/22/24 Sat (hjok.youronlinemortgages.com/192.254.92.14) Who's trying to sue Robyn? The stalker or the Miss PA Org? The MAO basically threatened to sue her which is just another example of the pure incompetence in leadership.and crisis communication (NT) -- No name, 22:49:02 06/22/24 Sat (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Miss PA and Miss America are threatening to sue… they have no case and honestly I think Robyn should sue them for negligence and defamation considering they completely bypassed the question and didn’t respond to the reporter when they were asked if the bully broke the contract (NT) -- No name, 23:08:13 06/22/24 Sat (NoHost/128.14.202.206) So a local titleholder says she's afraid of being murdered due to terroristic threats sent by a fellow contestant trying to push her out of the pageant and the MAO says to the VICTIM of the crime: "hold up, are you even eligible to compete? Because we could sue you, you know"? Is that the gist of this? Hahahaha. The MAO is so unbelievably CLUELESS. It's a wonder they're still in business. This story should be national news -- the death threats sure, but also the retalliation by the MAO against the victim who spoke out to say a judge agreed her life was in danger. What the ever loving hell is the MAO thinking in their response? My 8th grade communication class could have drafted a better response than that. It's like they know absolutely zilch about how to run a business when dealing with controversy (NT) -- No name, 00:48:52 06/23/24 Sun (static-68-235-61-102.cust.tzulo.com/68.235.61.102) It's also curious to me that they're questioning the victim's eligibility per the contract, but the person who threatened to kill her?? I'm pretty sure sending terroristic threats to people would disqualify you from holding a state title. At least it would back in my day (NT) -- No name, 00:53:59 06/23/24 Sun (ip52.ip-167-114-11.net/167.114.11.52) It’s also curious to me… -- No name, 18:20:11 06/24/24 Mon (c-73-101-88-170.hsd1.pa.comcast.net/73.101.88.170) I think Page is the least of anyone's concern at the moment. The Miss PA and the MAO have opened themselves up to one hell of a lawsuit and insanely bad press. The bully in question may very well be criminally charged (NT) -- No name, 19:39:52 06/24/24 Mon (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Are we forgetting that the woman accused of making these threats competed and was 2nd runner up! She came dang close to winning. (NT) -- No name, 08:17:37 06/23/24 Sun (c-73-230-2-51.hsd1.pa.comcast.net/73.230.2.51) Her scholarship money should be revoked (NT) -- No name, 23:25:50 06/23/24 Sun (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) They won’t do anything though. The PA program loves her and is supporting her through and through. Her aunt used to sit on the PA board so they’ll just keep supporting the bully. Makes sense though considering the ED is a bully herself and bullied her own teen Director into quitting. The organization desperately needs an overhaul. Girls are being threatened by the board if they com forward and are just being taken advantage of. (NT) -- No name, 16:58:03 07/05/24 Fri (NoHost/128.14.202.194) The girl that was second runner up is a full on dog. If that is her headshot, I’d hate to see her in real life. (NT) -- No name, 17:50:29 06/23/24 Sun (syn-076-185-101-170.res.spectrum.com/76.185.101.170) a very viscous, mean dog. (NT) -- No name, 18:12:03 06/24/24 Mon (212.sub-72-106-23.myvzw.com/72.106.23.212) Is it REALLY a surprise? Nah. Robin is a disaster. (NT) -- No name, 18:44:32 06/24/24 Mon (NoHost/139.71.144.4) The MAO statement is even more interesting now in light of MAO Robin allegedly taking out a protective order of her own. Wonder how she'd feel if greeted with the reception the MAO gave Robyn K (NT) -- No name, 12:16:10 06/26/24 Wed (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) Regardless of the facts of this - this is a terrible view of the entire Miss America program. local, state, and national. I have loved this program for many, many years, donated scholarship funds, and volunteered my time. A few years ago, I said "no more". It had become embarrassing to say I supported this program. The pageant stereotype has won the battle that we all have fought forever. We knew the truth of the all the good but, the bad has won out. I have a bank of wonderful memories and that will have to do. Nothing is going to change unless someone with some integrity can take the reigns. Based on the past few years - that does not seem likely. What a shame!! (NT) -- No name, 12:33:04 06/26/24 Wed (NoHost/50.86.219.105) Is there any update at all on this? Why has a local pageant's social media gone dark? Were they being harassed for not removing the crown of a psychopath? Every day that goes by with nothing done makes me lose a little more respect for the local and state organizations. I also lose respect for the other victims who are standing by silently all for a crown (NT) -- No name, 19:18:48 06/28/24 Fri (NoHost/68.235.61.78) The victim is still working hard to change things. She has a team of lawyers behind her that are helping build a case. She’s been pushing the police to look more into this from a criminal aspect, not sure what’s happening there since the police testified that he thought the messages were just “girls being catty”. Not sure what the org is doing, but I know Robyn K is pushing hard to get some things moving. I have a feeling there might be more coming to light soon. I’m hoping some of the other girls speak up because I know there’s so many young women in the PA org who have been bullied by the same abuser, they’re just all afraid of her and her family and what the PA org will do. (NT) -- No name, 01:14:01 06/29/24 Sat (NoHost/107.115.17.51) When is the Miss Wilkes Barre pageant anyway? Will this girl be allowed to crown her successor? (NT) -- No name, 00:28:25 07/04/24 Thu (syn-072-187-151-082.res.spectrum.com/72.187.151.82) She’s still an active titleholder right now so probably (NT) -- No name, 13:48:51 07/04/24 Thu (pool-108-48-193-216.washdc.fios.verizon.net/108.48.193.216) She seems a little too stupid to be a title holder. Everyone knows that you do not write down threats. Geez.....she needs to go back to Effective Bullying 101 (NT) -- No name, 14:47:19 07/04/24 Thu (158.sub-174-210-75.myvzw.com/174.210.75.158) I assume this is sarcasm (NT) -- No name, 15:40:00 07/04/24 Thu (c-50-172-181-106.unallocated.comcastbusiness.net/50.172.181.106)

Subject: Miss America Top Five Talent Contenders - Go!
Author: No name [ Edit \| View ]	Date Posted: 18:14:53 07/02/24 Tue (h116.146.184.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net/173.184.146.116) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]
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Very early and not all states picked up but so far Florida, Ohio, Texas, Alabama and California look strong! This is early, as I said, so we shall see but I wish all the young women well! (NT) -- No name, 18:22:06 07/02/24 Tue (c-76-23-211-61.hsd1.ma.comcast.net/76.23.211.61) CA is absolutely not a strong talent please do not start that hype.. (NT) -- No name, 00:14:50 07/03/24 Wed (NoHost/172.56.65.3) What is AL talent? (NT) -- No name, 01:51:40 07/04/24 Thu (c-73-244-218-159.hsd1.fl.comcast.net/73.244.218.159) OP here: Yes I misread and thought the question was asking a top 5 prediction overall. Not as familiar with individual talents (NT) -- No name, 09:56:10 07/03/24 Wed (c-76-23-211-61.hsd1.ma.comcast.net/76.23.211.61) Only worth 20%, not the big deal in years past. (NT) -- No name, 10:09:21 07/03/24 Wed (NoHost/104.28.116.91) Wisconsin. Phenomenal dancer. (NT) -- No name, 12:02:09 07/03/24 Wed (NoHost/172.59.187.197) Florida - Casana Fink (NT) -- FL FAN, 14:30:00 07/03/24 Wed (NoHost/47.200.102.244) Im excited about some unusual talents! Roller skating, harp! Whatelse? (NT) -- No name, 15:14:22 07/03/24 Wed (23.29.80.195.bbc.net/23.29.80.195) Casana Fink won Talent preliminary all 3 years she competed at Miss Florida. So the lyrical dancing is strong. (Reminds me of a lot of the routines I saw in that new Netflix show on Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader tryouts-their audition routines) (NT) -- No name, 17:21:11 07/03/24 Wed (NoHost/142.136.0.79) What did Casana dance to this year? (NT) -- No name, 06:04:41 07/04/24 Thu (syn-097-104-014-136.res.spectrum.com/97.104.14.136) Don't sleep on Delaware. A professional ballerina for years (NT) -- LEE, 09:10:37 07/04/24 Thu (c-73-87-56-93.hsd1.de.comcast.net/73.87.56.93) "Rescue" by Lauren Daigle (NT) -- No name, 17:30:43 07/04/24 Thu (syn-035-145-140-109.res.spectrum.com/35.145.140.109) Miss Tennessee Carley Vogel. Her performance of Climb Ev’ry Mountain was mesmerizing. (NT) -- No name, 06:29:28 07/05/24 Fri (host-68-169-141-95.MIDOLT1.epbfi.com/68.169.141.95)

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