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Date Posted: 20:27:12 05/13/13 Mon
Author: Joe Rizoli (Lawabiding)
Author Host/IP: 220.127.116.11
Subject: ESL Globe article response
In reply to:
's message, "Re: Welcome" on 19:05:48 05/02/13 Thu
The "motives" of the Rizoli's is one for "Rule of Law"
The Rizoli's didn't write the voluminous material at the Framingham public library in three volumes on the Immigration laws. The "motives" are obviously to see those laws enforced. It gets tiresome when the Lawmakers are siding with the lawbreakers. It certainly would be great that our Lawmakers start setting an example on how to be law abiding and not defend people notoriously noted for document fraud.
The Article in the Boston Globe made some very interesting comments and even omissions.
The article stated that of the 700 applicants and users of the Adult ES Plus program only 30 filled out the complete forms. That means 670 people currently in the program didn't. The question is WHY?
Does it really take a rocket scientist to figure out that those 670 people using the program seem to have a problem making their real identity's known? The 30 figure would be precisely what I would expect for those who are legally using the program as it was intended.
A quite disturbing quote in the article states this:
"Most of the funding for the 700 adults served annually by the program comes from the State Department of Elementary and Secondary Education, Tibor said"
This would indicate to me that we have a State sponsored entitlement that STILL is playing games with the 1996 Welfare Reform Act as to providing services to those who are mostly ILLEGAL. This needs to be further looked into by the Attorney Generals Office. Again, the program is aiding and abetting mostly illegal aliens in their stay in America, which is a Federal Felony.
Federal Immigration and Nationality Act
Section 8 USC 1324(a)(1)(A)(iv)(b)(iii)
In those sections a quite interesting quote is made about "motives" it says:
" knowingly assists illegal aliens due to personal convictions"
Apparently our Lawmakers who had common sense at the writing of those laws, realized that people would KNOWINGLY go against the Law for their own "personal convictions", thus, why it was called "aiding and abetting"
The Globe article ends with saying that certain Town Meeting members are "working on an alternate resolution that would provide more money for the ESL programs to reduce the waiting list"
Good luck with that "personal conviction". Just what town meeting needs, more money for helping out a waiting list of four hundred people that consist of more people illegally in this country. Can't wait to see that happen. We will be back to square one. Are the people LEGALLY entitled to take part in that program? The great "shibboleth" test is whether those wanting to be in the program will be to see if they fill out ALL the forms and do as Town Meeting suggested, signing a statement that they are legally entitled to be in that program.
For ANY town meeting member to go along with those not signing that statement would be "knowingly assist (ing ) illegal aliens due to personal convictions"
The Town of Framingham by way of its Selectpersons and its Town Meeting Members have a real opportunity to step up to the plate here and make Framingham a welcoming town to those who are LEGALLY here and who respect Rule of Law. Anything else backing up lawlessness would be shameful.
Globe ESL article
Tuesday morning the classrooms and the main hall at the New Life Presbyterian Community Church in downtown Framingham were filled with Brazilian, Russian, and Chinese immigrants translating simple words from their native language into English, learning how to use superlatives, and polishing their questions for an upcoming game that will use American baseball legend Jackie Robinson as its theme.
Framingham’s adult English as a Second Language programs, which are held mornings and evenings, are in such high demand that the waiting list stretches into the hundreds.
But these classes have also become a lightning rod in a local debate about illegal immigration that has divided Framingham, even as Congress considers reforms to the country’s immigration laws.
In a 51-49 vote earlier this month, Town Meeting members decided to ask selectmen to verify the immigration status of participants in adult ESL classes. In a town where more than a quarter of the 67,844 residents were born in another country, and downtown shops display Brazilian flags and sell Guatemalan breads, the vote on the nonbinding resolution has puzzled some residents, angered others, and served as a notice to Framingham officials that immigration is a local issue as much as a national debate.
English classes help immigrants assimilate into the United States, and should not be restricted to those with the proper papers, according to Pablo Maia, a Framingham Town Meeting member who is of Brazilian descent.
‘People think that just because they’re immigrants they’re living off the government. That’s not true.’
“If you don’t speak English, you’re out of the social area,” Maia said. “It’s very dangerous.”
Maia said he and his family have been happy living in Framingham for the past eight years, but the town needs a study committee to help residents understand the complexities and the human faces behind the immigration issue.
“People think that just because they’re immigrants they’re living off the government,” Maia said. “That’s not true.”
But supporters of the Town Meeting vote say the community’s limited resources should not be spent on those who arrived or stayed in America through back channels.
“The bottom line is that it’s all about fairness,” said Audrey Hall, chairwoman of Town Meeting’s Ways and Means Committee, which sponsored the resolution. “Our country has a bigger issue to deal with and it’s been a struggle to deal with. On a small scale, if we have a program that is meant for people who are legal immigrants . . . they should be a priority.”
Dennis Giombetti, chairman of the Board of Selectmen, said he was surprised that the measure passed, especially with the backdrop of congressional efforts on immigration reform.
But the close vote likely reflects the national mood on the issue, Giombetti said. “I think Framingham is not that different than most communities.”
After Town Meeting ends, the selectmen will study the recommendation and determine whether Framingham needs to or can check immigration papers for participants in its ESL program, Giombetti said.
“It’s a confusing topic, it’s a sensitive topic,” said Town Manager Robert Halpin. “There’s a lot of related legal and policy questions.”
The Rev. Volmar Scaravelli, pastor at St. Tarcisius Church on Waverly Street in Framingham and president of the town’s Brazilian American Center, expressed disappointment with the resolution. The largest majority of the town’s foreign-born residents, about 35 percent or 6,202 people, are from Brazil, according to the most recent census figures.
“It’s good for our town that people learn to speak English,” Scaravelli said through a translator. He added that it helps parents educate their children and adults navigate a new culture. “That’s what they need most, is to speak English.”
Specifically at issue is how the town administers a federal Community Development Block Grant that helps pay for the English classes. Two groups get money annually from the grant. The Framingham ESL Plus program, run through the school district, receives $20,500, and Literacy Volunteers of America gets $11,500, Halpin said.
Framingham ESL Plus is the largest program in the community. The federal grant is a small part of its $800,000 annual budget and pays for about 30 student slots, said Christine Tibor, the program’s director.
Most of the funding for the 700 adults served annually by the program comes from the state’s Department of Elementary and Secondary Education, Tibor said.
Participants are accepted through a lottery system.
Last year, after a complaint from residents Jim and Joe Rizoli, brothers who founded Concerned Citizens and Friends of Illegal Immigration Law Enforcement, Framingham ESL Plus began asking the participants who took seats paid for by the federal grant about their residency status. Under federal law, participants benefitting from the grant money must be citizens or legal residents of the country. Framingham ESL Plus does not ask for documentation to verify the answers.
Because the Town Meeting resolution seems tied to the federal grant and those answering the legal immigrant question, Tibor said, it is unlikely to reduce the waiting list of about 400 students or have a significant effect on the local program.
All of the participants in the ESL classes must fill out a state application that asks for, but does not require, a Social Security number. Only about 30 students fill out the additional paperwork for the federal grant funding, including the immigration status question, Tibor said.
Ways and Means Committee chairwoman Hall said she was unaware that only a narrow group were being asked about their immigration status, and said she believed the resolution would help reduce the waiting list.
Still, she said, she stands behind the principle of giving preference to legal immigrants.
“It appears that there’s a criteria and it doesn’t appear that the criteria is being enforced,” Hall said.
If the intent of Town Meeting is that Framingham should ask all adult ESL students about their immigration status and verify that information, that should involve more discussion and include state education officials, Tibor said.
“That’s part of a much bigger conversation,” she said. “We’re in the business of teaching English . . . we’re not set up for that.”
Joe Rizoli said he hopes the May 1 vote sent a signal to Framingham officials that residents want them to scrutinize the immigration status of people who receive town services. He said he would also like to see the selectmen ask business owners who apply for town permits whether they hire only documented workers.
The Southern Poverty Law Center in 2008 called the Rizolis’ organization a hate group, and a year later the Anti-Defamation League described Jim Rizoli as “Holocaust denier” and an “anti-Semite” for remarks he made during an episode of the brothers’ local cable-access television show. The Rizolis have disputed both accusations.
Both brothers were members of Town Meeting until last month, when they did not win reelection. Jim Rizoli, who could not be reached for comment, had been a member of the committee that proposed the recent resolution, and had discussed the need for such a measure in the past, Joe Rizoli said.
“They would have never known this was going on if it weren’t for us,” he said.
Some supporters of the resolution have distanced themselves from the Rizolis.
Kathy Vassar, a 40-year resident of Framingham, said she supported the resolution because she would like the town, if possible, to give preference to legal immigrants. The resolution is not about being opposed to immigrants, she said.
“I think there is a huge concern about town services and how they can best be provided,” Vassar said. “This doesn’t rise above that.”
But Herb Chasan, who opposed the resolution, said the vote has left the impression that Framingham is hostile to immigrants. Some residents have bristled over the changes to the town in the past decade, including the transformation of downtown and the growth in the number of Brazilian immigrants, Chasan said.
He and other opponents of the resolution say that is not the majority feeling in town.
Chasan and some Town Meeting members are working on an alternate resolution that would provide more money for the ESL programs in order to reduce the waiting list.
“We want Framingham to be known as a welcoming town,” he said.
Deirdre Fernandes can be reached at deirdre.fernandes@ globe.com. Follow her on Twitter @fernandesglobe.
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