VoyForums
[ Show ]
Support VoyForums
[ Shrink ]
VoyForums Announcement: Programming and providing support for this service has been a labor of love since 1997. We are one of the few services online who values our users' privacy, and have never sold your information. We have even fought hard to defend your privacy in legal cases; however, we've done it with almost no financial support -- paying out of pocket to continue providing the service. Due to the issues imposed on us by advertisers, we also stopped hosting most ads on the forums many years ago. We hope you appreciate our efforts.

Show your support by donating any amount. (Note: We are still technically a for-profit company, so your contribution is not tax-deductible.) PayPal Acct: Feedback:

Donate to VoyForums (PayPal):

[ Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] [ Main index ] [ Post a new message ] [ Search | Check update time | Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, [5], 6 ]

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

Date Posted: 10:39:20 07/22/13 Mon
Author: Joe Rizoli (Black like me)
Author Host/IP: 146.115.156.139
Subject: A black racist conversation

John, yes, I read the book also "Black like me"

The blacks don't set good examples. The blacks who get in power are crooks and make us whites look at them like they don't want to change. Why are blacks looked differently in stores by Clerks? It's because a LOT of the steal. The blacks keep doing their criminality and they will suffer for it, of course then cry "racism"

Most blacks are birthed "out of wedlock". As a tribe, they have been used by the Jews to continue racism. I don 't see color with blacks, I see how they act.
What they do. Act human and you'll be treated human.

People aren't born racist, they are taught it. Blacks are among the biggest racist in the world, because they are taught it.

They need God in their lives, HE is solely missing.

President Johnson's welfare crap has failed. The blacks family unit isn't their own black family, it's the USA Government, that is their daddy, their sugar baby.
Even when most blacks get rich , they "bling it". Totally irresponsible people.
The only thing that's going to fix all this is Armageddon.

Joe

Sent from my ITouch, please forgive grammatical mistakes

On Jul 22, 2013, at 1:04 PM, John wrote:

This is an editorial I sent to Jay Severin last year......Can you even debate these facts....??


There are two questions which must be asked:
Where does the anger come from?
Is it justified?
We must ask ourselves, where does this anger and resentment come from and is there any justification for these feelings. All white people can define what racism is. You can be sure you will get a varied response to what it actually is – as far as the dictionary definition. BUT , there is no white person alive who can actually tell you what racism is because they can’t. Above all they do not want to know. We must state at this point that along with racism comes prejudice and discrimination. It is like the old saying, ‘you can’t know a person until you have walked a mile in their shoes.’ Consider this: Slavery began in this country in the 1600’s, the Constitution was written in the 1700’s , the Civil War was in the 1800’s , WWI, WWII, race riots, and all types of equality based issues in the 1900’s. Not to mention fighting / risking your life in Korea, WWII and Vietnam as a black person and being denied basic civil rights when you returned. Now here it is 2013. We are still dealing with these issues almost 400 years later! Let’s look at the Constitution. Specifically the words ‘ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL’. More hypocritical words have never been spoken or written on paper in the history of the world as far as what they are intended to mean. If the words had a footnote defining more specifically what ‘men’ meant or maybe what it did not mean, then there would be less of an issue but we ALL know how little meaning those words have had from a historical perspective. We as white Americans will never know what racism is. It is very much like going to a funeral and attempting to comfort a grieving parent who has lost a child as a result of murder or some type of tragic accident. You state to the parent hopefully in this manner “ I can’t imagine how you feel” Well guess what – You can’t imagine and do not want to imagine. It is the same with trying to imagine what it is actually like to lose a child needlessly. Your brain will not let you actually, truly imagine. It is too uncomfortable and the brain shuts this process down. What could be a worse tragedy than being a smart and capable person who wants to fulfill his dream as an American -to live up to your full potential and being denied because of your color? How many great Scientists, Doctors Inventors, and Leaders have never over the last 300 years ever been able to realize their potential because they were denied just because of the color of their skin? Are you getting what I am saying here? It is the saying ‘cut off your nose to spite your face’. Worst yet knowing that your children will not be able to live up to their full potential because of the same issues. I ask all you fellow Americans to reflect on the ugly history of this country which has basically preached one thing and done another. The best example I can think of as far as our hypocrisy goes ( and I had more examples to choose from than I would ever want) – was the fact of these wonderful Christian people going to church on Sunday morning and going out to hang (as they called them) niggers in trees at night. There is documented incident where a returning WWI soldier was on the bus and refused to go to the back and was shot dead by some southern gentleman. The black soldier was in full uniform and proud of what he had accomplished. Our history is FULL of these types of things and disgraceful does not quite describe it. I respect Obama for not deserting his Pastor. I know Rev Wright has been very extreme on many of the issues but his basic resentment for America is justifiable. What black man over 50 has not somehow experienced racism in its worst form? This can be first or second hand. Possibly a close family member. These people can look at our history the same as I can. IT IS NO SECRET!! I know the situation has improved, but again – we will never truly know.
White America seems to think that people of color can just turn off this ‘resentment switch’ and accept things as they are. Well, it just is not that simple.
Now I asked myself, why, me being the white American that I am, why do I understand the anger this preacher and many other black Americans have and most other white Americans do not? I realized that in my early teen years, I had read a book called “Black Like Me” by John Howard Griffin. I along with other classmates was given an assignment in the early sixties to read this book. All I know is the book had a profound effect on me. I was horrified. I was never exposed to racism in any way as a child and had no conception of what it was. I could not understand why people could be treated differently (oversimplification) solely because of their skin color. I challenge any white American to read that book and still look at racial prejudice the same way. That book is the closest any white person will ever get to knowing what racial prejudice is. This book is about a WHITE man who chemically dyed his skin to look like a black man. What this man experienced was incredible. It just shows how truly shallow this issue is.
The purpose of these words is not to cause more animosity. It is time we as white Americans, reach across to people of color and at least acknowledge that we, historically as a nation are basically responsible for the racial situation we now have and together look for a solution. We have been in and are for the most part, in total denial. We have not allowed people of color to have any hope of realizing their full potential. This has been going on for more than 350 years. We have only recently begun to make progress. We should not view Rev Wright’s words as reverse racism. It is anger plain and simple. Many black people have been left no choice except to band together out of frustration and in many cases and look at the white population as their enemy. They are just venting their frustration at a system that still is basically the same. We must at least acknowledge these facts. We must understand it and attempt to bridge this gap. We must reach out with true understanding and compassion. It took hundreds of years of oppression to get to this point and it will certainly not go away over night. It has now mutated itself on both sides of this issue. I understand the KKK was recently celebrating Martin Luther King’s death-- and not in honor of him as you can imagine. It is still going on with a vengeance. How would you feel as a black person? White people just do not have to think about this type of thing. White Americans’ attitude is basically “How dare you be racist towards us now, after all we have done for you – you have no right!” NO RIGHT? There is no other group of people that has been oppressed for this long in this country. Not even close. Others, possibly a few generations not a hundred.
Now back to the questions I asked at the beginning. Number one- where does the anger / resentment come from? ANSWER – Just look at our country’s history. Number two- Is it justified? – YOU BET IT IS!!



“If you make people think they’re thinking, they’ll love you; but if you really make them think, they’ll hate you.”

–
Subject: Love those blacks...

John what excuse do you have for this one and the many thousands of
other black on white crimes?

http://incogman.net/2013/07/black-militant-obama-ratchets-up-trayvon-bs/

JR

[ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]
[ Contact Forum Admin ]

Forum timezone: GMT-8
VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB:
Before posting please read our privacy policy.
VoyForums(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems.
Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.