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Subject: First things first


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Alihja
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Date Posted: 18:40:19 05/16/01 Wed
In reply to: Checkerpaw who is from MN, a NORTHERN state. 's message, "Re: Well . . ." on 14:05:35 05/16/01 Wed

Alright, before I believe ANY of this, I want hard facts, not unfounded assertions. Give me proof that documentation of this exists and I will then check it out. For example, who was the Chief Justice? (Hm, yeah I wonder why the Supreme Court ruled it unConstitutional; it was their CHIEF JUSTICE for crying out loud) What did he do to make Lincoln give out a warrant for his arrest? As for the voting thing, its not like the South isn't to blame for stuff like that either. In the Kansas territory years before, people from both South and North rushed to it. Popular sovreignty ruled; basically, whichever side had more (pro-slave and anti-slave) people decided if the territory was to become a slave or free state. Pro-slavery citizens of Missouri crossed over the border election day and VOTED. Kansas became pro-slavery and eventually massacres erupted. BTW, Maryland was an important state throughout the entire war, as it was next to the Union capital. If Maryland was lost, then D.C. stood a good chance of it too. How would we have faired then, eh? During the Civil War, Lincoln used habeus corpus to keep captured Confederate commanders in jail without release. It was a known fact that the Confederacy had better commanders than the Union, so Lincoln kept them from returning to the south. As for the people who committed "treason", who were these people? Most likely the Copperheads, northern Democrats who from the start wanted to let the South go its own way. And I think they must've done a little more than just say "Let the South go." Riots and movements that disrupted the peace most probably broke out. Lincoln's goal in this war, we mustn't forget, was to keep the country together. Therefore, he (and Congress) found it necessary to stretch their Constitutional powers. Only when the 54th regiment and other black regiments gathered and fought was when it became about slavery. And lets not forget Jefferson Davis. He had opposition too, you know. Georgia threatened to secede (not succeed) from the Confederacy! Many Confederate states refused to pay taxes. There was a lot of opposition to the war on BOTH sides.

Unfortunately for you, I'm learning about the Civil War right now in History. My teacher, Mr. Hensen, is a Civil War buff. So, tell me what your other arguments are. I guarantee I can shoot each and every one of them out of the water.

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BTW, I really wanna know what your arguments are on the Holocaust "not happening". That'd be interesting. Plus, I'd get to call you a dumbass, which I've been aching to do for some time now.Alih18:43:31 05/16/01 Wed
A little tidbitAlihja16:05:29 05/17/01 Thu


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