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Subject: But protesting gets you arreseted and beaten. And if we challenge our government we can get sued, or worse thrown in jail. I mean most people hate George W. with a passion. But they can't do anything about it. Freedom? Well I guess it's freedom as long as you don't say what some other people find offensive, or do what other people think you shouldn't do. One of the main reason our country isn't in the dumps is because people BELIEVE in it that it works. While some guy's sleeping in a gutter atleast IM in a two storey house. So it works for the rich, and the rich are loudest in politics. Whenever there were doubts in the system some big war came along and saved the economy. There's no system of government that works for everyone. And the ones that benefit are usually the rich.


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Dirty Rotten SOB
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Date Posted: 16:39:35 06/06/01 Wed
In reply to: Alihja 's message, "Phew, haven't been around in awhile, have I! (inside)" on 14:59:28 06/06/01 Wed

>This is something I'm glad to see both Checkerpaw and
>I agree with. For Communism to work, every one would
>have to be uncaring of their own wellbeing and content
>with being the same as everybody else. Which doesn't
>work because of one strong emotion in the human
>spectrum: greed. If I work my arse off every day for
>10 hours, I'm not going to be content with the same
>amount of money as the drunk next door, for the rest
>of my life! Capitalism, which is the U.S., allows
>people to strive for more and more. That of course
>means that there's going to be a bottom and a top, but
>it also means that you have a chance of moving up the
>ranks. In theory, Communism works fine, but humans are
>too greedy for it to ever succeed.
>
>To Dirty Rotten SOB: Yes, our government does have a
>lot of control over us. But we have the right as
>citizens to protest and challenge the government
>freely. We have the right to open our own business and
>keep what we earn. Everything has glitches, because
>nothing is perfect. Even Nature gets screwy and turns
>out with odd deformations and stuff, but let's not
>digress too much farther.
>
>Basically, take a look at all the Communist countries
>in the world. They're failing. People don't like being
>just "part of the crowd" and "the same as that guy",
>which is what Communism does to you.

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Oh and good to see you Ahlija! Looks like we finnally have a debate where it's not everyone against checks. :)Lorena Winkler16:41:07 06/06/01 Wed
Well, that all depends on how you protest! Riots and things, yes, you'll be arrested. But petitions and referendums and stuff like that is perfectly legal. As for getting beaten, dang, can't think of anything. I'm sure it could happen, but not too often. I don't like Bush-boy either, but he was voted in and unless he REALLY screws up and gets impeached and kicked out, there's nothing we can do. I definitely see the whole "freedom as long as you don't offend anyone and everything" point. That's become quite ludicrous these days. Law suites for the pettiest things! But as I mentioned, greed is a biggie. And in capitalist countries, it's allowed to run rampant, for the better or worse of the nation.Alihja20:20:05 06/06/01 Wed


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