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Re: I would disagree with Alihja on one thing: I don't think that wanting to rise to a top is greed. Certainly there are some who are greedy, but I think greedy is better defined by someone who HAS risen "to the Top" and wants more. As to the riots and things and W: Man, I wish Pat BUchanan and Ralph Nader did better in the elections. Amercia needs a new third party, not liberal or conservative, but America-first, that is clean, no corruption in it.