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Date Posted: 18:13:27 04/21/03 Mon
Author: Dane96
Subject: Re: AE vs. MAAC: The definitive question
In reply to: Go Cats Go 's message, "AE vs. MAAC: The definitive question" on 15:08:38 04/21/03 Mon

>Ok, nobody's debating that the MAAC is a stronger
>league than the AE. Well, Greg is, but he doesn't
>count.
>
>But here's the definitive question: Are the players on
>the 3rd Team All-MAAC that much better than, say, the
>players on the 2nd Team All-AE? Jamar Wilson, Billy
>Collins, Nick Billings, Justin Rowe, and D.J.
>Munir...how would these guys stack up against the 3rd
>Team All-MAAC? I gotta believe that those listed
>players could be 3rd Team All-MAAC. I know for sure
>that the 3rd Team All-MAAC isn't equivalent to the 1st
>Team All-AE.
>
>The MAAC is stronger, but it's not an overwhelming
>gap. If I remember correctly, if you subtract the AE
>RPI from the MAAC RPI, you get a figure similar to if
>you subtracted the Big East RPI from the SEC RPI.
>
>Also, look at the RPIs of the individual teams.
>Manhattan, Fairfield, and Siena all have RPIs much
>higher than anyone in the AE. But teams 4-10 are all
>interspersed among the AE teams. Good yes, amazing no.
>
>But really, I think we're getting away from the actual
>point of all this: Lucious Jordan is good, and he'll
>be a benefit for Albany. My only concern, if I'm
>Albany, is who's going to get all the shots? Between
>Wilson, Levine, Jordan, Iati, God knows who
>else...they can't all be 20ppg scorers. It's gonna
>require a lot of offensive balance.

Everyone has made excellant points here. Much more logic than when Ramfan butts heads (pun intended). I think though we are missing two points...one of them Patch made, and one that Go Cats Go alluded to. First, we are a low major conference right now...and everyone in the league has to be able to admit that. I mean Siena was ranked the 25th mid-major college (in the mid-major poll. No one, not even UVM or BU would be w/in the top 30....sorry gang.

Second, transfers like Jordan and Parker only make our league better, from top to bottom. The same goes for the JUCOS that Hartford, Binghamton and now UA are going after. These additions make our league a much more attractive place to go for a player. W/ the additions of these student-atheletes and the "super arenas" at Binghamton, BU, SBU, UA and even Hartford (I would even throw Alfond in there if you could pack it), this conference has solid players, coaches and facilities that will bring that RPI up very quickly.

We are having a pissing contest about a player who will only help, not hurt the stature of the league. And its safe to say that even if Lucious makes "only" the second team AE (which would be my presumption), he is a much better pickup than you guys are giving UA credit for. I guaruntee you that every team in this conference would love to have him start or play significant minutes at the two for them.

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[> [> [> Re: AE vs. MAAC: The definitive question -- Czar, 19:29:10 04/21/03 Mon

>>This is it from me! If you know anything about basketball and you follow it then you know that Jordan is a great pick-up for Albany and he is a player who will start for 2 years and average double figures for 2 years. You can argue what league is better or that guy's in the AE can play in the MAAC. Whatever! Whether you hate Albany or love Albany you can't deny it is a great get! You are getting an established All Conference player from a better overall league! End of discussion!

Ok, nobody's debating that the MAAC is a stronger
>>league than the AE. Well, Greg is, but he doesn't
>>count.
>>
>>But here's the definitive question: Are the players on
>>the 3rd Team All-MAAC that much better than, say, the
>>players on the 2nd Team All-AE? Jamar Wilson, Billy
>>Collins, Nick Billings, Justin Rowe, and D.J.
>>Munir...how would these guys stack up against the 3rd
>>Team All-MAAC? I gotta believe that those listed
>>players could be 3rd Team All-MAAC. I know for sure
>>that the 3rd Team All-MAAC isn't equivalent to the 1st
>>Team All-AE.
>>
>>The MAAC is stronger, but it's not an overwhelming
>>gap. If I remember correctly, if you subtract the AE
>>RPI from the MAAC RPI, you get a figure similar to if
>>you subtracted the Big East RPI from the SEC RPI.
>>
>>Also, look at the RPIs of the individual teams.
>>Manhattan, Fairfield, and Siena all have RPIs much
>>higher than anyone in the AE. But teams 4-10 are all
>>interspersed among the AE teams. Good yes, amazing
>no.
>>
>>But really, I think we're getting away from the actual
>>point of all this: Lucious Jordan is good, and he'll
>>be a benefit for Albany. My only concern, if I'm
>>Albany, is who's going to get all the shots? Between
>>Wilson, Levine, Jordan, Iati, God knows who
>>else...they can't all be 20ppg scorers. It's gonna
>>require a lot of offensive balance.
>
>Everyone has made excellant points here. Much more
>logic than when Ramfan butts heads (pun intended). I
>think though we are missing two points...one of them
>Patch made, and one that Go Cats Go alluded to.
>First, we are a low major conference right now...and
>everyone in the league has to be able to admit that. I
>mean Siena was ranked the 25th mid-major college (in
>the mid-major poll. No one, not even UVM or BU would
>be w/in the top 30....sorry gang.
>
>Second, transfers like Jordan and Parker only make our
>league better, from top to bottom. The same goes for
>the JUCOS that Hartford, Binghamton and now UA are
>going after. These additions make our league a much
>more attractive place to go for a player. W/ the
>additions of these student-atheletes and the "super
>arenas" at Binghamton, BU, SBU, UA and even Hartford
>(I would even throw Alfond in there if you could pack
>it), this conference has solid players, coaches and
>facilities that will bring that RPI up very quickly.
>
>We are having a pissing contest about a player who
>will only help, not hurt the stature of the league.
>And its safe to say that even if Lucious makes "only"
>the second team AE (which would be my presumption), he
>is a much better pickup than you guys are giving UA
>credit for. I guaruntee you that every team in this
>conference would love to have him start or play
>significant minutes at the two for them.

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[> [> [> [> Re: AE vs. MAAC: The definitive question -- Dane96, 21:33:03 04/21/03 Mon

>>>This is it from me! If you know anything about
>basketball and you follow it then you know that Jordan
>is a great pick-up for Albany and he is a player who
>will start for 2 years and average double figures for
>2 years. You can argue what league is better or that
>guy's in the AE can play in the MAAC. Whatever!
>Whether you hate Albany or love Albany you can't deny
>it is a great get! You are getting an established All
>Conference player from a better overall league! End
>of discussion!
>
AMEN BROTHER!

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