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Subject: Re: Lucas, the rich brat Author: Lucas [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 04:44:44 01/08/26 Thu In reply to: Ginger 's message, "Re: Lucas, the rich brat" on 02:12:59 01/08/26 Thu What is this? You being fair? I swore you were just here to be mean to me but here you are being kind and patient, firm and loving. That is a combo I am rarely shown and something I will have to get used to. I stir on this for so long that I forget I am even in the corner and your timer startles me. I slowly take my hands off of my head, waiting for another spanking, even if you just told me that wasn’t going to happen. Again…getting used to this new reality. I turn around and see you slightly smiling: expecting me to be the first to start talking. I am usually not too shy. “Sorry…I didn’t think about it.” That makes you laugh. “It’s okay…let’s do this. Come with me and let’s write them out in the kitchen. If you want to finish putting your clothes on, you may.” Honestly after all of this, I am overheating. We walk out of your room and I stop by my bedroom to grab just a t-shirt, but decide to stay in my underwear. I guess there’s not much of a reason to be modest any more. I come back out and join you at our big kitchen table where you already have a paper and pen ready to go. “What we’re going to do, Lucas, is we’re going to write out the rules and consequences in this house so you always know what to expect now and going forward. We can amend this over time, but let’s decide on some basic ones together. The first rule has to be that we respect others. That means no just dropping off your bag or clothes expecting someone to just do your laundry. Or yelling at someone just because you’re upset. I promise I will respect you and I expect that in return. Not just for me but for everyone else, too. What is one that you think is fair?” “Uhmmm…I guess no arguing?” “Hmm…well, as much as I am happy to not argue with you, let’s change that a bit. How about no mean comments if you disagree? Right now you are getting angry and making things personal when you don’t agree with someone. I think that is a rule that we can establish.” You continue to write these down on the sheet of paper. “Always do my homework?” “That’s a good one. Homework done before any electronics. What else should go on here?” [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Lucas, the rich brat Author: Ginger [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:28:27 01/10/26 Sat Hey, sorry I disappeared for a bit. It's been a crazy couple of days. You can give me a few extra smacks the next time I'm on the receiving end, lol. ________________________ I can see you concentrating, and I am really proud of the progress you are making already. You're willing to talk about rules and consequences, and I can tell you're really thinking about it. "Um, no getting in trouble at school?" You say. "That's another important one, but I think we should expand it a bit. You should try to be on your best behavior in school, but also just generally in public. This includes your lessons, when you're visiting friends, and when you're out at places like shops or restaurants." You scrunch up your brow in confusion. "So, I'm never allowed out to have fun?" "Of course you can still have fun! You just need be mindful of how you act around others. Be respectful of adults, and treat others the way you would want them to treat you. It's entirely possible to have a good time without being rude or inconsiderate. " You look down, and it's pretty obvious my last comment must have struck a nerve. "Hey," I say softly, "I'm not trying to make you feel bad. You're a good kid Lucas. You've just gotten into some bad habits, especially when you don't get your way. I want to help you make better choices." "And if I don't act how you want, then you're gonna spank me." Your tone is glum, with just a touch of anger still in there. "Well, sometimes, yes. " I concede. "But there's a scale of severity. Not every mistake will land you over my knee. Let's say you get snippy with your tennis coach, but then you realize you've been rude. If you give him a genuine apology, I'm sure he'd be willing to forgive a little slip, and that would be the end of it. But, if you throw a tantrum in the grocery store because I refuse to buy you candy, and scream and roll around on the ground like a 2 year old, then you can count on a sore bottom when get home. " You giggle a little at the idea of throwing that kind of tantrum. I was hoping that mental image might break the tension that was building back up. We both know you wouldn't do something that extreme. "You will almost always get a warning, unless it's something big, like lying, or deliberate disobedience, or unless it's something that you've already been warned about before. " You still look worried. "Ok, how about this? If you could make rules for me, then what would they be? I'm not promising that those will become official rules, but I really want to know what you are worried about with the new discipline routine. I want you to try to think before you act, but I done want you you to be scared to put one toe out of line. If I can do something so that you feel better about these changes, then I'll try to do it. "

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Lucas, the rich brat Author: Lucas [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:39:20 01/10/26 Sat No apologies necessary! I'll take you up on that for a future story. --------------- You've stumped me a bit, but I can see how hard you're trying. It's going to be bumpy because no adult has ever really talked like this to me or put rules out plainly. I consider it while looking down, but finally look up to see your eyes looking much kinder than they were only minutes ago. "I guess...I just worry like...you're gonna' spank me whenever you feel like it. If I made the rules....*sigh*...I guess just be like nice?" I am trying but clearly struggling a bit. But, hey...I am only 11. "I think that is probably the most important one to stick to right now, Lucas. Here's the thing: you mention wanting to have fun. I want you to have fun, too! But, you and I both know that there are times where you might think you're having fun, but you're maybe not being very kind or thoughtful of how others are feeling. That is the thing that we're going to work on together. I promise I am not trying to find every reason to punish you, and it's not about you acting how "I" want. It's about acting in a way that's fair to the world. Because, I can tell you this: things get a lot harder in life if you take a bunch of attitude everywhere you go in life. I don't want you to have to experience that, but that has to start here. With you and me. I am on your side." As hard as it may be to hear it, I am warmed by you saying that. For the first time I maybe actually believe it. "How about this", you say as you begin writing. "We're going to put the 'big three' right up top on this paper. No lying, no extreme rudeness, and no disobedience. Those are the three that will earn you a spanking right away. And when I say 'disobedience', I don't mean blindly doing what I say. I mean directly doing the opposite of what I told you not to do. You might know a bit about that..." You end that last sentence with a bit of a smile to let me know that I am at least not getting another lecture. "Everything else, we will work on as we go. I like that you especially want to work on how you act at all of your lessons and with your friends. Those we will write underneath because they are rules we'll work together on without resorting right to the harshest punishment. I promise you'll always get a warning and a conversation, but if it escalates too far, then you know what to expect. But let's work toward a future where we don't even have to consider that" That sparks me a little bit: "Ummm...can I ask you a question?" "Please do, Lucas. Never be afraid to ask questions." "What...what happens when I am older? Like a teenager?"

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Lucas, the rich brat Author: Ginger [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:56:08 01/13/26 Tue Once again, sorry for being so slow. I've been going through a bit of a bout of depression, and there had also been drama with my work, so I just haven't been very with it. I promise to finish the story though. I won't just leaving you hanging, lol. And I put it in the wrong spot again. Sigh. I blink in surprise. I truly wasn't expecting a question about that far into the future. In a way, it really warms my heart, because it means that part of you is already accepting my presence in your life for the foreseeable future. "I hate to sound wishy-washy, but it really does depend on several things. How badly did teenage you get in trouble? Is it a rule that you had broken before, and you knew better? I think what you are really asking is if there is an age when spankings are no longer an option. Basically, when would you be "too old" for a spanking?" You nod, confirming that I had zeroed in on your real concern. "Well, first of all, I would hope that as you get older, you would try to be more responsible, and therefore, you wouldn't be earning many spankings. Of course nobody's perfect, and I don't expect you to be. I'd prefer, and I'm sure you would too, to transition to things like loss of privileges, if you get in trouble as a teenager. As long as you maintain pretty good behavior at the end of middle school, then I would plan on spankings being off the table once you get to high school. But if you mess up big time, then your butt could possibly still be in danger." You don't look thrilled with that answer, and I can't really blame you. At your age, high school probably feels like an eternity away. "Hey, don't look so glum. You're going to work on building better habits, and I'm here to help you do that. The quicker you do that, the less likely you are to wind up with a sore backside. I know you can do it. " You seem a bit encouraged by that. "OK, I don't know about you, but I'm hungry! How about BLTs?" You really perk up at that, and I start pulling ingredients out of the fridge. "So, we'll have lunch, then you can help me clean up my room, and then how about a movie? And, as long as we have an uneventful rest of the day, then I was thinking we could check out the new mini-golf place tomorrow. What do you think?"

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Lucas, the rich brat Author: Lucas [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 05:48:16 01/14/26 Wed I totally get it and hope you take time to take care of yourself. You’d be up for being on the receiving end for the next story, but if you need to take time away, please do! We can end the story on this post. I had a lot of fun with this dynamic. I like that I got to be a big brat and you handled it so calmly. No doubt this would not be his only spanking. This level of brattiness doesn’t just go away, but I think the characters established a great level of respect for each other by the end. I hope you had fun getting to be the one to take charge! —————- As soon as you mention mini golf, it is as if all my resentment and anger has washed away. I feel more…free? Is that the word for it? Like I pushed ‘restart’ on my console and get to be more at ease. I guess I always expect adults to be ones just telling me what to do and wanting to control me, but maybe you want to actually help me? I know I am gonna be walking on thin ice for a bit, with you watching my behavior like a hawk, but I don’t interpret that as antagonizing me. Maybe that will fade away next time I am in trouble. And yes…even I have to admit that my mouth will probably get me in trouble again. We’ll just have to learn how to work with each other. We have lunch and you let me relax the rest of the afternoon. I watch my shows and you take care of chores around the house. You find me on the couch and ask me to come with you. You want to ‘teach me something’. I reflexively roll my eyes. I don’t know if you saw it or not. Admittedly, I feel my bottom is mostly safe for today. We go into the laundry room and you show me how to fold my clothes. Boring, but I am on spanking watch, so I do it with you. “We can do this slowly, Lucas, but I am going to have you start doing small chores. Have you ever had those?” “…no. That doesn’t sound fun.” “They aren’t, but they are a part of life. I promise they won’t be too painful. But you know…watch out.” My eyes bat up, but you’re smiling. I think this will be the start of something really great.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Lucas, the rich brat Author: Ginger [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:26:33 01/14/26 Wed Thanks for being so understanding. I had fun with this one too. It was kind of crazy to be introducing the idea of spankings, rather than it being an already expected kind of discipline. If you ever want to explore this dynamic again, then I'd definitely be on board. I'm sure this version of little Lucas hasn't been cured of his brattiness, lol.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Lucas, the rich brat Author: Lucas [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:23:10 01/14/26 Wed Oh definitely not! In my head, this version of Lucas is right back over your knee within a month. 11 years of brattiness isn’t undone in one spanking. I’ll have to think about another situation. I think in the future I want to try and get in more BIG trouble. Maybe caught saying mean things over text, getting in trouble at school - cheating, etc. Not sure yet. But whenever you’re ready! It’s hard to write when you just aren’t feeling well. I hope we can do another brother/sister dynamic in the future, too. Unless there is another one that interests you as the spankee, too.

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Lucas, the rich brat Author: Ginger [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:34:43 01/14/26 Wed You anticipate BIG trouble? Uh oh, sounds like bratty Lucas might be doing his best to get an introduction to the hairbrush, lol. I do still like the brother/sister scenario. I actually just had the start of an idea. I'll let it percolate a bit. 😉

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Lucas, the rich brat Author: Lucas [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:00:10 01/14/26 Wed I mean, the hairbrush has to come at some point, right? Haha. I can’t wait to hear your idea!!