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Subject: Re: Cooperation

Author:
Alfred22

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Date Posted: 14:16:30 11/01/23 Wed
In reply to: Monty 's message, "Re: Cooperation" on 17:28:41 10/16/23 Mon

Thank you Monty. Your comments deserve some reflection and I will need more time before I can adequately reply. It would be helpful to know how your mother communicated her love and your obligations to cooperate with spankings. You mention that she wasn't severe when she spanked but was adept at it. I found that ease of cooperation varied inversely with how firm the spanking was. The harder it was, the harder it was not to reach around. I never thought reaching around was a sin or disrespectful. It seemed "natural." The yardstick stings a lot. What did you feel? How big a sin would it have been to hide it?

>Alfred22, your comment is excellent and I thank you
>for it. I would like to share my own experiences and I
>hope I can convey my thoughts in a sensible way. I
>would love to hear the opinions of others.
>
>At my church, the children’s pastor would tell us
>that we should be accepting of the spankings we were
>given, or we would not be able to live with the guilt.
>
>At home, my mother was the disciplinarian. She taught
>me that spankings as a child were important to lead a
>good Christian life as an adult, to honor thy mother
>and father, and that also her authority was derived
>from God. To her, honoring and being respectful to her
>meant fully cooperating with spankings. This involved
>baring my own bottom, obediently laying across her
>lap, and accepting the spanking stoically with no
>kicking or trying to block with my hand. She
>considered not doing these things to be the highest
>form of disrespect, and even a sin.
>
>Due to my teachings at both home and school, I had a
>strong conviction deep down that I should cooperate.
>It was easier said than done, however, and I often
>needed cajoling to bare myself. While my mother’s
>spankings were by no means severe, I was afraid of
>them as she was an adept spanker and I knew they would
>hurt.
>
>Before each spanking, she was aggressive. I will not
>go as far as to say angry, but I was well aware that I
>was about to be punished. After each spanking, we
>would pray together and she would reiterate that they
>came from love, and that I would thank her for them
>one day.
>
>As an adult, I do of course agree that she had both
>the right and the duty to discipline me as she saw
>fit. As a child, though, I was conflicted by the tone
>change from aggression to love, and also by the
>spiritual battle that I wanted to accept my punishment
>but my bodily fear of harm prevented me from fully
>cooperating in most cases.
>
>In conclusion, requiring full cooperation may cause
>internal conflict. While I wanted to be cooperative
>and was afraid of the spiritual consequences for not
>doing so, it caused me a great deal of distress when
>the time to cooperate came.

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Subject	Author	Date
Re: Cooperation	Monty to (Alfred22)	14:13:54 11/13/23 Mon