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Subject: Re: Don't be silly, she's just a little girl!
Author: Anna
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] Date Posted:07:29:12 11/16/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 185.184.195.140 In reply to:
Dave to Anna
's message, "Re: Don't be silly, she's just a little girl!" on 17:01:52 11/15/25 Sat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, I have managed to use both my first
>>and
>>>>>>>>>middle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>name on this forum. I will probably stick
>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>Burton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>or Burt going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>After finding this forum and posting the
>>>>tomboy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>thread, I started thinking about similar
>>>>>>>>situations
>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>might have experienced or heard about. This
>>>>one
>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>told to me by my wife years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>When she was 9 or 10, she was across the
>>>>street
>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing at a friend's house a girl of the
>>>same
>>>>>>>>age.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>The family was beginning the packing
>process
>>>>>for
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>trip and the mom was scurrying about making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>preparations. The two girls were engrossed
>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing Barbies. After a time, her friend
>>>>asked
>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>wanted a popsicle. They then went looking
>>>for
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl's mother, hearing her voice coming
>from
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>brothers room who was 14 or 15 at the time.
>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>wandered in to the room to find the mother
>>>>>>having
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>son try on the previous years swimsuits to
>>>see
>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>still fit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>The boy who was naked at the time,
>exclaimed
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>mother that the girls should leave. His
>>>>>mother's
>>>>>>>>>>>reply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. " oh, they are just little girls, it
>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>matter." The boy had to continue trying on
>>>>>>>bathing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>suits at the mothers insistence while the
>>two
>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>stood there begging for popsicles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I thought about that and remembered being
>>>told
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>same thing by my mother about my sister and
>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>So, my question is as a boy or young man,
>>>were
>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>ever told this? Or for you ladies, were you
>>>>>ever
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>lucky little girls who were "far to young"
>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>understand what you were seeing (lol) and
>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>stick around?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>The "don't be silly, she's just a little
>>girl"
>>>>>>>>>>comment
>>>>>>>>>>>>brings to mind various experiences I had as
>a
>>>>>>>>>child.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Both with my brother (who is three years
>>older
>>>>>>>than
>>>>>>>>>>>>me) and with my male cousin, who is four
>>years
>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>than me, as well as with my classmate's
>>>brother
>>>>>>>>(two
>>>>>>>>>>>>years older than us). They were both very
>shy
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>>>ashamed and complained to my mother and my
>>>>aunt,
>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>their answer was always "don't be silly,
>>she's
>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>little girl".
>>>>>>>>>>>>And while this was true when I was 5 or 6
>>>years
>>>>>>>>old,
>>>>>>>>>>>>and I have very vague memories of those
>>>>episodes
>>>>>>>>(my
>>>>>>>>>>>>brother and cousin recalled them years
>later,
>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>>evening at dinner, all three of us with our
>>>>>>>>>>respective
>>>>>>>>>>>>spouses, we talked about childhood
>>nudity…),
>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>other hand, I do have very clear memories of
>>>>>when
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>was 9 or 10 or 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>I assure you, the phrase "don't be silly,
>>they
>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>>just little girls, they don't notice these
>>>>>>things"
>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>not true! We notice them! At least after the
>>>>age
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>7/8…
>>>>>>>>>>>>This post could also be under "The Double
>>>>>>>Standard"
>>>>>>>>>>>>but I published it here because this
>sentence
>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>>remained imprinted in my mind (and
>especially
>>>>in
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>minds of my brother and cousin… lol… ).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Anna i for one would love to hear the details
>>>of
>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>you saw them nude. Under what circumstances
>>did
>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>>>occur?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>Nothing particularly different from what
>you've
>>>>>>>>>>already partially described. But for a
>>>>>>9-11-year-old
>>>>>>>>>>girl, it was great.
>>>>>>>>>>I saw my brother naked a few times during his
>>>>bath
>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>his annual physical (as you said), or two or
>>>>three
>>>>>>>>>>times while he was being spanked, and once in
>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>river.
>>>>>>>>>>My cousin while he was changing after his bath
>>>>>when
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>was at his house, and once (unfortunately only
>>>>>>>>>>once...) during his annual physical, and in
>the
>>>>>>>>river,
>>>>>>>>>>the same time as my brother.
>>>>>>>>>>My sister's brother a few times when I was
>>doing
>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>homework at his house (he changed after
>playing
>>>>>>>>soccer
>>>>>>>>>>to go to take a bath).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Did you have a favorite boy to see among the 3?
>>>>How
>>>>>>>>>did the physicals go? Did they have to face you
>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>drop their pants one i did? Were you mainly
>>>>>>>interested
>>>>>>>>>to see their penises or did other areas
>interest
>>>>>>you?
>>>>>>>>>Did your friend and you discuss seeing her
>>>>brother?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My cousin, because he was the oldest (I think I
>>>had
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>crush on him as a child).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The annual physical were, I think, similar to
>>>>yours.
>>>>>>>>They were in their underwear for the first part,
>>>>and
>>>>>>>>then they had to lower them for the testicular
>>>exam
>>>>>>>>for a hernia (they explained it to me later; at
>>>the
>>>>>>>>time, I didn't know why the pediatrician did
>>>that).
>>>>>>>>The last time with my brother I was 11 and he
>was
>>>>>14,
>>>>>>>>with my cousin I was 9 and he was 13. With my
>>>>female
>>>>>>>>friend we were 9 so he was 11. My brother had a
>>>lot
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>pubic hair last time and begged our mom not to
>>let
>>>>>me
>>>>>>>>watch or to wait outside... but she responded
>>with
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>usual phrase "Don't be silly, she's your sister
>>>and
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>little girl!" and the pediatrician continued her
>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>>My cousin also had some pubic hair at 13, but
>>much
>>>>>>>>less than my brother, but it was the first time
>I
>>>>>saw
>>>>>>>>him with hair, the other times he was hairless.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I was also interested in their butts, but I was
>>>>>>mainly
>>>>>>>>attracted to their penises (I must admit).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes, she and I talked about this several times.
>I
>>>>>>>>envied her because I only saw my brother or
>>cousin
>>>>>>>>naked occasionally, while she told me it
>happened
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>her every day... It wasn't much different from
>my
>>>>>>>>brother at the same age, but it was a new penis,
>>>so
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>was interesting... lol...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for the details Anna. I don't blame you
>for
>>>>>>>being interested. I can remember every girls
>>parts
>>>>>>>that I saw in childhood and loved it. What were
>>>>some
>>>>>>>of the differences in their penises? Anything you
>>>>>>>noted?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My friend's brother's was the most childish,
>>>>>>obviously. He hadn't even started puberty yet at
>>11,
>>>>>>so he was hairless, and his balls didn't sag much.
>>>>His
>>>>>>penis, however, was nice and fairly long.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My brother's was almost adult-sized, at least in
>my
>>>>>>memory. Thick and long, with lots of dark hair.
>His
>>>>>>balls were quite large, filling his sac well and
>>>>>>sagging quite a bit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My cousin's was almost as long as my brother's,
>but
>>>>>>less thick. His balls were slightly smaller, and
>he
>>>>>>only had pubic hair at the base of his penis on
>the
>>>>>>left and right, not in the middle, and the hair
>was
>>>>>>shorter. He had just entered puberty. His hair was
>>>>>>light brown.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Circumcision isn't very common here in Italy, so
>>all
>>>>>>three were uncircumcised, with intact foreskins.
>>>>When,
>>>>>>at the end of the visit, the pediatrician checked
>>>>that
>>>>>>the foreskin was loose and that there was no
>>redness
>>>>>>at the tip, they both had the beginnings of
>>>>>>erections... wow! omg!
>>>>>>On the way back, they were embarrassed in the car
>>>and
>>>>>>remained silent the whole time...
>>>>>
>>>>>Did you get to see them retracted? My cousin from
>>>>>Germany was visiting and saw my penis. She kept
>>>saying
>>>>>how she loved are could see the end of it (her
>>words)
>>>>>all the time!
>>>>
>>>>During the visit, I saw the pediatrician completely
>>>>retract their foreskins and the pink tip emerge...
>>>>lol...
>>>>Once we got home, I asked both my brother and cousin
>>>>if they'd let me see "the magic" again... I actually
>>>>used that word...
>>>>My little slit didn't do any of that; I was jealous
>>of
>>>>their male parts, which were elongating, hardening,
>>>>and with the tip disappearing and appearing... what
>>an
>>>>innocent, silly girl...
>>>
>>>Lol that's great. What was their reaction when you
>>>asked?
>>
>>They immediately replied, "Absolutely not! How
>>embarrassing!"
>>Then, after much persistence, they said yes, but I had
>>to show my kitty (something I would never have
>>done...).
>>Finally, after much persuasion, I convinced them, and
>>they both showed me their covered penises, then slowly
>>pulled back the foreskin, exposing the tip completely.
>>They remained like that for a few seconds, just long
>>enough to show me a good look, then they put it back
>>and put on their underwear.
>>WOW!
>
>That's a great experience for a young girl. One on the
>reverse standard. As a young boy, my aunt cousin and
>her friend would take me to the park. If they had to
>use the bathroom, they'd go into the women's room.
>They would ask me if I had to use it. This was a
>single stall bathroom. We'd all go in at once to use
>it. My cousin a girl 3 years older, objected to me
>being in there but they used the same phrase " he's
>just a boy!". The friend looked hesitant as well but
>the aunt rolled her eyes and dropped her pants. I got
>to watch 3 ladies pee! A real special thing for a
>young boy.
Dave, you're right, it was a great experience for a 10-11 year old. It remained in my mind after so many years as if it happened yesterday…
I didn't think they'd finally give in and let me see it. But they did it! OMG!
But I was so eager to see him again, more time and more closely after the first time at the pediatrician, that I think I was a little pushy and just exhausted them… lol…
My brother, poor thing, has never had any reverse experiences… I think he would have liked to be in your place at the park. How old were you when it happened? Was your cousin's friend three years older than you as your cousin?
I guess you looked carefully... lol... I would have looked carefully in the situation with three guys… lol…
How did your cousin's friend react or what did she say when your aunt pulled down her pants?
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Date Posted:08:48:59 11/16/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 108.236.209.113
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, I have managed to use both my first
>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>middle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name on this forum. I will probably stick
>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>Burton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or Burt going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>After finding this forum and posting the
>>>>>tomboy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thread, I started thinking about similar
>>>>>>>>>situations
>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>might have experienced or heard about.
>This
>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>told to me by my wife years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When she was 9 or 10, she was across the
>>>>>street
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing at a friend's house a girl of the
>>>>same
>>>>>>>>>age.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The family was beginning the packing
>>process
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>trip and the mom was scurrying about
>making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>preparations. The two girls were engrossed
>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing Barbies. After a time, her friend
>>>>>asked
>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wanted a popsicle. They then went looking
>>>>for
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl's mother, hearing her voice coming
>>from
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brothers room who was 14 or 15 at the
>time.
>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wandered in to the room to find the mother
>>>>>>>having
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>son try on the previous years swimsuits to
>>>>see
>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>still fit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The boy who was naked at the time,
>>exclaimed
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mother that the girls should leave. His
>>>>>>mother's
>>>>>>>>>>>>reply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. " oh, they are just little girls, it
>>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>matter." The boy had to continue trying on
>>>>>>>>bathing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suits at the mothers insistence while the
>>>two
>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stood there begging for popsicles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I thought about that and remembered being
>>>>told
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>same thing by my mother about my sister
>and
>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So, my question is as a boy or young man,
>>>>were
>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ever told this? Or for you ladies, were
>you
>>>>>>ever
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lucky little girls who were "far to young"
>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>understand what you were seeing (lol) and
>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stick around?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>The "don't be silly, she's just a little
>>>girl"
>>>>>>>>>>>comment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>brings to mind various experiences I had as
>>a
>>>>>>>>>>child.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Both with my brother (who is three years
>>>older
>>>>>>>>than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>me) and with my male cousin, who is four
>>>years
>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>than me, as well as with my classmate's
>>>>brother
>>>>>>>>>(two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>years older than us). They were both very
>>shy
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>ashamed and complained to my mother and my
>>>>>aunt,
>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>their answer was always "don't be silly,
>>>she's
>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>little girl".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>And while this was true when I was 5 or 6
>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>old,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>and I have very vague memories of those
>>>>>episodes
>>>>>>>>>(my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother and cousin recalled them years
>>later,
>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>evening at dinner, all three of us with our
>>>>>>>>>>>respective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>spouses, we talked about childhood
>>>nudity…),
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>other hand, I do have very clear memories
>of
>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>was 9 or 10 or 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I assure you, the phrase "don't be silly,
>>>they
>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>just little girls, they don't notice these
>>>>>>>things"
>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>not true! We notice them! At least after
>the
>>>>>age
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>7/8…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>This post could also be under "The Double
>>>>>>>>Standard"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>but I published it here because this
>>sentence
>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>remained imprinted in my mind (and
>>especially
>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>minds of my brother and cousin… lol… ).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Anna i for one would love to hear the
>details
>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>you saw them nude. Under what circumstances
>>>did
>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>>>>occur?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>Nothing particularly different from what
>>you've
>>>>>>>>>>>already partially described. But for a
>>>>>>>9-11-year-old
>>>>>>>>>>>girl, it was great.
>>>>>>>>>>>I saw my brother naked a few times during his
>>>>>bath
>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>his annual physical (as you said), or two or
>>>>>three
>>>>>>>>>>>times while he was being spanked, and once in
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>river.
>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin while he was changing after his
>bath
>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>was at his house, and once (unfortunately
>only
>>>>>>>>>>>once...) during his annual physical, and in
>>the
>>>>>>>>>river,
>>>>>>>>>>>the same time as my brother.
>>>>>>>>>>>My sister's brother a few times when I was
>>>doing
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>homework at his house (he changed after
>>playing
>>>>>>>>>soccer
>>>>>>>>>>>to go to take a bath).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Did you have a favorite boy to see among the
>3?
>>>>>How
>>>>>>>>>>did the physicals go? Did they have to face
>you
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>drop their pants one i did? Were you mainly
>>>>>>>>interested
>>>>>>>>>>to see their penises or did other areas
>>interest
>>>>>>>you?
>>>>>>>>>>Did your friend and you discuss seeing her
>>>>>brother?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My cousin, because he was the oldest (I think I
>>>>had
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>crush on him as a child).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>The annual physical were, I think, similar to
>>>>>yours.
>>>>>>>>>They were in their underwear for the first
>part,
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>then they had to lower them for the testicular
>>>>exam
>>>>>>>>>for a hernia (they explained it to me later; at
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>time, I didn't know why the pediatrician did
>>>>that).
>>>>>>>>>The last time with my brother I was 11 and he
>>was
>>>>>>14,
>>>>>>>>>with my cousin I was 9 and he was 13. With my
>>>>>female
>>>>>>>>>friend we were 9 so he was 11. My brother had a
>>>>lot
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>pubic hair last time and begged our mom not to
>>>let
>>>>>>me
>>>>>>>>>watch or to wait outside... but she responded
>>>with
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>usual phrase "Don't be silly, she's your sister
>>>>and
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>little girl!" and the pediatrician continued
>her
>>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>>>My cousin also had some pubic hair at 13, but
>>>much
>>>>>>>>>less than my brother, but it was the first time
>>I
>>>>>>saw
>>>>>>>>>him with hair, the other times he was
>hairless.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I was also interested in their butts, but I was
>>>>>>>mainly
>>>>>>>>>attracted to their penises (I must admit).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Yes, she and I talked about this several times.
>>I
>>>>>>>>>envied her because I only saw my brother or
>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>>naked occasionally, while she told me it
>>happened
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>her every day... It wasn't much different from
>>my
>>>>>>>>>brother at the same age, but it was a new
>penis,
>>>>so
>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>was interesting... lol...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Thanks for the details Anna. I don't blame you
>>for
>>>>>>>>being interested. I can remember every girls
>>>parts
>>>>>>>>that I saw in childhood and loved it. What were
>>>>>some
>>>>>>>>of the differences in their penises? Anything
>you
>>>>>>>>noted?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My friend's brother's was the most childish,
>>>>>>>obviously. He hadn't even started puberty yet at
>>>11,
>>>>>>>so he was hairless, and his balls didn't sag
>much.
>>>>>His
>>>>>>>penis, however, was nice and fairly long.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My brother's was almost adult-sized, at least in
>>my
>>>>>>>memory. Thick and long, with lots of dark hair.
>>His
>>>>>>>balls were quite large, filling his sac well and
>>>>>>>sagging quite a bit.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My cousin's was almost as long as my brother's,
>>but
>>>>>>>less thick. His balls were slightly smaller, and
>>he
>>>>>>>only had pubic hair at the base of his penis on
>>the
>>>>>>>left and right, not in the middle, and the hair
>>was
>>>>>>>shorter. He had just entered puberty. His hair
>was
>>>>>>>light brown.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Circumcision isn't very common here in Italy, so
>>>all
>>>>>>>three were uncircumcised, with intact foreskins.
>>>>>When,
>>>>>>>at the end of the visit, the pediatrician checked
>>>>>that
>>>>>>>the foreskin was loose and that there was no
>>>redness
>>>>>>>at the tip, they both had the beginnings of
>>>>>>>erections... wow! omg!
>>>>>>>On the way back, they were embarrassed in the car
>>>>and
>>>>>>>remained silent the whole time...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Did you get to see them retracted? My cousin from
>>>>>>Germany was visiting and saw my penis. She kept
>>>>saying
>>>>>>how she loved are could see the end of it (her
>>>words)
>>>>>>all the time!
>>>>>
>>>>>During the visit, I saw the pediatrician completely
>>>>>retract their foreskins and the pink tip emerge...
>>>>>lol...
>>>>>Once we got home, I asked both my brother and
>cousin
>>>>>if they'd let me see "the magic" again... I
>actually
>>>>>used that word...
>>>>>My little slit didn't do any of that; I was jealous
>>>of
>>>>>their male parts, which were elongating, hardening,
>>>>>and with the tip disappearing and appearing... what
>>>an
>>>>>innocent, silly girl...
>>>>
>>>>Lol that's great. What was their reaction when you
>>>>asked?
>>>
>>>They immediately replied, "Absolutely not! How
>>>embarrassing!"
>>>Then, after much persistence, they said yes, but I
>had
>>>to show my kitty (something I would never have
>>>done...).
>>>Finally, after much persuasion, I convinced them, and
>>>they both showed me their covered penises, then
>slowly
>>>pulled back the foreskin, exposing the tip
>completely.
>>>They remained like that for a few seconds, just long
>>>enough to show me a good look, then they put it back
>>>and put on their underwear.
>>>WOW!
>>
>>That's a great experience for a young girl. One on the
>>reverse standard. As a young boy, my aunt cousin and
>>her friend would take me to the park. If they had to
>>use the bathroom, they'd go into the women's room.
>>They would ask me if I had to use it. This was a
>>single stall bathroom. We'd all go in at once to use
>>it. My cousin a girl 3 years older, objected to me
>>being in there but they used the same phrase " he's
>>just a boy!". The friend looked hesitant as well but
>>the aunt rolled her eyes and dropped her pants. I got
>>to watch 3 ladies pee! A real special thing for a
>>young boy.
>
>Dave, you're right, it was a great experience for a
>10-11 year old. It remained in my mind after so many
>years as if it happened yesterday…
>I didn't think they'd finally give in and let me see
>it. But they did it! OMG!
>But I was so eager to see him again, more time and
>more closely after the first time at the pediatrician,
>that I think I was a little pushy and just exhausted
>them… lol…
>
>My brother, poor thing, has never had any reverse
>experiences… I think he would have liked to be in
>your place at the park. How old were you when it
>happened? Was your cousin's friend three years older
>than you as your cousin?
>I guess you looked carefully... lol... I would have
>looked carefully in the situation with three guys…
>lol…
>How did your cousin's friend react or what did she say
>when your aunt pulled down her pants?
I was about 9. Hadn't started puberty but right on the cusp. I had seen my sisters vagina when we were very small so I knew what I was expecting but when my aunt pulled her pants down and I saw the hair and lips I was pretty shocked. I was also fascinated as I always wondered how girls peed. Did you ever see boys pee?
My cousin was kind of incredulous when my aunt whipped down her pants and then when she finished she told my cousin to go because we won't have another bathroom for several hours. That's when she objected to me being there and my aunt chastised her. " it's a little boy and your cousin he doesn't care!". Oh how wrong she was lol. Her friend after just shrugged and pulled down her pants as well so I got to see all 3!
Date Posted:09:01:55 11/16/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 149.22.84.153
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, I have managed to use both my first
>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>middle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name on this forum. I will probably stick
>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>Burton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or Burt going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>After finding this forum and posting the
>>>>>>tomboy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thread, I started thinking about similar
>>>>>>>>>>situations
>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>might have experienced or heard about.
>>This
>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>told to me by my wife years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When she was 9 or 10, she was across the
>>>>>>street
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing at a friend's house a girl of the
>>>>>same
>>>>>>>>>>age.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The family was beginning the packing
>>>process
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>trip and the mom was scurrying about
>>making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>preparations. The two girls were
>engrossed
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing Barbies. After a time, her friend
>>>>>>asked
>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wanted a popsicle. They then went
>looking
>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl's mother, hearing her voice coming
>>>from
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brothers room who was 14 or 15 at the
>>time.
>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wandered in to the room to find the
>mother
>>>>>>>>having
>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>son try on the previous years swimsuits
>to
>>>>>see
>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>still fit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The boy who was naked at the time,
>>>exclaimed
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mother that the girls should leave. His
>>>>>>>mother's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. " oh, they are just little girls, it
>>>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>matter." The boy had to continue trying
>on
>>>>>>>>>bathing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suits at the mothers insistence while the
>>>>two
>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stood there begging for popsicles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I thought about that and remembered being
>>>>>told
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>same thing by my mother about my sister
>>and
>>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So, my question is as a boy or young man,
>>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ever told this? Or for you ladies, were
>>you
>>>>>>>ever
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lucky little girls who were "far to
>young"
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>understand what you were seeing (lol) and
>>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stick around?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The "don't be silly, she's just a little
>>>>girl"
>>>>>>>>>>>>comment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brings to mind various experiences I had
>as
>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>child.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Both with my brother (who is three years
>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>me) and with my male cousin, who is four
>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than me, as well as with my classmate's
>>>>>brother
>>>>>>>>>>(two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>years older than us). They were both very
>>>shy
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ashamed and complained to my mother and my
>>>>>>aunt,
>>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>their answer was always "don't be silly,
>>>>she's
>>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>little girl".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And while this was true when I was 5 or 6
>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>old,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and I have very vague memories of those
>>>>>>episodes
>>>>>>>>>>(my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother and cousin recalled them years
>>>later,
>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>evening at dinner, all three of us with
>our
>>>>>>>>>>>>respective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spouses, we talked about childhood
>>>>nudity…),
>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other hand, I do have very clear memories
>>of
>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was 9 or 10 or 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I assure you, the phrase "don't be silly,
>>>>they
>>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just little girls, they don't notice these
>>>>>>>>things"
>>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not true! We notice them! At least after
>>the
>>>>>>age
>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>7/8…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This post could also be under "The Double
>>>>>>>>>Standard"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but I published it here because this
>>>sentence
>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>remained imprinted in my mind (and
>>>especially
>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>minds of my brother and cousin… lol…
>).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Anna i for one would love to hear the
>>details
>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>you saw them nude. Under what circumstances
>>>>did
>>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>occur?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>>Nothing particularly different from what
>>>you've
>>>>>>>>>>>>already partially described. But for a
>>>>>>>>9-11-year-old
>>>>>>>>>>>>girl, it was great.
>>>>>>>>>>>>I saw my brother naked a few times during
>his
>>>>>>bath
>>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>>his annual physical (as you said), or two or
>>>>>>three
>>>>>>>>>>>>times while he was being spanked, and once
>in
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>river.
>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin while he was changing after his
>>bath
>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>was at his house, and once (unfortunately
>>only
>>>>>>>>>>>>once...) during his annual physical, and in
>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>river,
>>>>>>>>>>>>the same time as my brother.
>>>>>>>>>>>>My sister's brother a few times when I was
>>>>doing
>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>homework at his house (he changed after
>>>playing
>>>>>>>>>>soccer
>>>>>>>>>>>>to go to take a bath).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Did you have a favorite boy to see among the
>>3?
>>>>>>How
>>>>>>>>>>>did the physicals go? Did they have to face
>>you
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>drop their pants one i did? Were you mainly
>>>>>>>>>interested
>>>>>>>>>>>to see their penises or did other areas
>>>interest
>>>>>>>>you?
>>>>>>>>>>>Did your friend and you discuss seeing her
>>>>>>brother?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My cousin, because he was the oldest (I think
>I
>>>>>had
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>crush on him as a child).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The annual physical were, I think, similar to
>>>>>>yours.
>>>>>>>>>>They were in their underwear for the first
>>part,
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>then they had to lower them for the testicular
>>>>>exam
>>>>>>>>>>for a hernia (they explained it to me later;
>at
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>time, I didn't know why the pediatrician did
>>>>>that).
>>>>>>>>>>The last time with my brother I was 11 and he
>>>was
>>>>>>>14,
>>>>>>>>>>with my cousin I was 9 and he was 13. With my
>>>>>>female
>>>>>>>>>>friend we were 9 so he was 11. My brother had
>a
>>>>>lot
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>pubic hair last time and begged our mom not to
>>>>let
>>>>>>>me
>>>>>>>>>>watch or to wait outside... but she responded
>>>>with
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>usual phrase "Don't be silly, she's your
>sister
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>little girl!" and the pediatrician continued
>>her
>>>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>>>>My cousin also had some pubic hair at 13, but
>>>>much
>>>>>>>>>>less than my brother, but it was the first
>time
>>>I
>>>>>>>saw
>>>>>>>>>>him with hair, the other times he was
>>hairless.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I was also interested in their butts, but I
>was
>>>>>>>>mainly
>>>>>>>>>>attracted to their penises (I must admit).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Yes, she and I talked about this several
>times.
>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>envied her because I only saw my brother or
>>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>>>naked occasionally, while she told me it
>>>happened
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>her every day... It wasn't much different from
>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>brother at the same age, but it was a new
>>penis,
>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>was interesting... lol...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the details Anna. I don't blame you
>>>for
>>>>>>>>>being interested. I can remember every girls
>>>>parts
>>>>>>>>>that I saw in childhood and loved it. What
>were
>>>>>>some
>>>>>>>>>of the differences in their penises? Anything
>>you
>>>>>>>>>noted?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My friend's brother's was the most childish,
>>>>>>>>obviously. He hadn't even started puberty yet at
>>>>11,
>>>>>>>>so he was hairless, and his balls didn't sag
>>much.
>>>>>>His
>>>>>>>>penis, however, was nice and fairly long.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My brother's was almost adult-sized, at least in
>>>my
>>>>>>>>memory. Thick and long, with lots of dark hair.
>>>His
>>>>>>>>balls were quite large, filling his sac well and
>>>>>>>>sagging quite a bit.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My cousin's was almost as long as my brother's,
>>>but
>>>>>>>>less thick. His balls were slightly smaller, and
>>>he
>>>>>>>>only had pubic hair at the base of his penis on
>>>the
>>>>>>>>left and right, not in the middle, and the hair
>>>was
>>>>>>>>shorter. He had just entered puberty. His hair
>>was
>>>>>>>>light brown.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Circumcision isn't very common here in Italy, so
>>>>all
>>>>>>>>three were uncircumcised, with intact foreskins.
>>>>>>When,
>>>>>>>>at the end of the visit, the pediatrician
>checked
>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>the foreskin was loose and that there was no
>>>>redness
>>>>>>>>at the tip, they both had the beginnings of
>>>>>>>>erections... wow! omg!
>>>>>>>>On the way back, they were embarrassed in the
>car
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>remained silent the whole time...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Did you get to see them retracted? My cousin from
>>>>>>>Germany was visiting and saw my penis. She kept
>>>>>saying
>>>>>>>how she loved are could see the end of it (her
>>>>words)
>>>>>>>all the time!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>During the visit, I saw the pediatrician
>completely
>>>>>>retract their foreskins and the pink tip emerge...
>>>>>>lol...
>>>>>>Once we got home, I asked both my brother and
>>cousin
>>>>>>if they'd let me see "the magic" again... I
>>actually
>>>>>>used that word...
>>>>>>My little slit didn't do any of that; I was
>jealous
>>>>of
>>>>>>their male parts, which were elongating,
>hardening,
>>>>>>and with the tip disappearing and appearing...
>what
>>>>an
>>>>>>innocent, silly girl...
>>>>>
>>>>>Lol that's great. What was their reaction when you
>>>>>asked?
>>>>
>>>>They immediately replied, "Absolutely not! How
>>>>embarrassing!"
>>>>Then, after much persistence, they said yes, but I
>>had
>>>>to show my kitty (something I would never have
>>>>done...).
>>>>Finally, after much persuasion, I convinced them,
>and
>>>>they both showed me their covered penises, then
>>slowly
>>>>pulled back the foreskin, exposing the tip
>>completely.
>>>>They remained like that for a few seconds, just long
>>>>enough to show me a good look, then they put it back
>>>>and put on their underwear.
>>>>WOW!
>>>
>>>That's a great experience for a young girl. One on
>the
>>>reverse standard. As a young boy, my aunt cousin and
>>>her friend would take me to the park. If they had to
>>>use the bathroom, they'd go into the women's room.
>>>They would ask me if I had to use it. This was a
>>>single stall bathroom. We'd all go in at once to use
>>>it. My cousin a girl 3 years older, objected to me
>>>being in there but they used the same phrase " he's
>>>just a boy!". The friend looked hesitant as well but
>>>the aunt rolled her eyes and dropped her pants. I got
>>>to watch 3 ladies pee! A real special thing for a
>>>young boy.
>>
>>Dave, you're right, it was a great experience for a
>>10-11 year old. It remained in my mind after so many
>>years as if it happened yesterday…
>>I didn't think they'd finally give in and let me see
>>it. But they did it! OMG!
>>But I was so eager to see him again, more time and
>>more closely after the first time at the pediatrician,
>>that I think I was a little pushy and just exhausted
>>them… lol…
>>
>>My brother, poor thing, has never had any reverse
>>experiences… I think he would have liked to be in
>>your place at the park. How old were you when it
>>happened? Was your cousin's friend three years older
>>than you as your cousin?
>>I guess you looked carefully... lol... I would have
>>looked carefully in the situation with three guys…
>>lol…
>>How did your cousin's friend react or what did she say
>>when your aunt pulled down her pants?
>
>I was about 9. Hadn't started puberty but right on the
>cusp. I had seen my sisters vagina when we were very
>small so I knew what I was expecting but when my aunt
>pulled her pants down and I saw the hair and lips I
>was pretty shocked. I was also fascinated as I always
>wondered how girls peed. Did you ever see boys pee?
>
>My cousin was kind of incredulous when my aunt whipped
>down her pants and then when she finished she told my
>cousin to go because we won't have another bathroom
>for several hours. That's when she objected to me
>being there and my aunt chastised her. " it's a little
>boy and your cousin he doesn't care!". Oh how wrong
>she was lol. Her friend after just shrugged and pulled
>down her pants as well so I got to see all 3!
>
>Both were the same age in school together.
I totally understand. I was shocked too the first time I saw my brother (and then my cousin) with pubic hair, even though it wasn't the first time I'd ever seen their penises.
Did her friend have pubic hair, too?
Yes, I saw my brother pee and my friend's brother too. Fascinating... very different from how I used to do it; they were standing...
Date Posted:09:25:51 11/16/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 174.236.39.58
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, I have managed to use both my
>first
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>middle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name on this forum. I will probably
>stick
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Burton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or Burt going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>After finding this forum and posting the
>>>>>>>tomboy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thread, I started thinking about similar
>>>>>>>>>>>situations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>might have experienced or heard about.
>>>This
>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>told to me by my wife years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When she was 9 or 10, she was across the
>>>>>>>street
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing at a friend's house a girl of
>the
>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>>>>>age.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The family was beginning the packing
>>>>process
>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>trip and the mom was scurrying about
>>>making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>preparations. The two girls were
>>engrossed
>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing Barbies. After a time, her
>friend
>>>>>>>asked
>>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wanted a popsicle. They then went
>>looking
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl's mother, hearing her voice coming
>>>>from
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brothers room who was 14 or 15 at the
>>>time.
>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wandered in to the room to find the
>>mother
>>>>>>>>>having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>son try on the previous years swimsuits
>>to
>>>>>>see
>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>still fit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The boy who was naked at the time,
>>>>exclaimed
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mother that the girls should leave. His
>>>>>>>>mother's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. " oh, they are just little girls, it
>>>>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>matter." The boy had to continue trying
>>on
>>>>>>>>>>bathing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suits at the mothers insistence while
>the
>>>>>two
>>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stood there begging for popsicles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I thought about that and remembered
>being
>>>>>>told
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>same thing by my mother about my sister
>>>and
>>>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So, my question is as a boy or young
>man,
>>>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ever told this? Or for you ladies, were
>>>you
>>>>>>>>ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lucky little girls who were "far to
>>young"
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>understand what you were seeing (lol)
>and
>>>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stick around?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The "don't be silly, she's just a little
>>>>>girl"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>comment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brings to mind various experiences I had
>>as
>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>child.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Both with my brother (who is three years
>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>me) and with my male cousin, who is four
>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than me, as well as with my classmate's
>>>>>>brother
>>>>>>>>>>>(two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>years older than us). They were both very
>>>>shy
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ashamed and complained to my mother and
>my
>>>>>>>aunt,
>>>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>their answer was always "don't be silly,
>>>>>she's
>>>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>little girl".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And while this was true when I was 5 or 6
>>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>old,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and I have very vague memories of those
>>>>>>>episodes
>>>>>>>>>>>(my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother and cousin recalled them years
>>>>later,
>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>evening at dinner, all three of us with
>>our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>respective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spouses, we talked about childhood
>>>>>nudity…),
>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other hand, I do have very clear memories
>>>of
>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was 9 or 10 or 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I assure you, the phrase "don't be silly,
>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just little girls, they don't notice
>these
>>>>>>>>>things"
>>>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not true! We notice them! At least after
>>>the
>>>>>>>age
>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>7/8…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This post could also be under "The Double
>>>>>>>>>>Standard"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but I published it here because this
>>>>sentence
>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>remained imprinted in my mind (and
>>>>especially
>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>minds of my brother and cousin… lol…
>>).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Anna i for one would love to hear the
>>>details
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you saw them nude. Under what
>circumstances
>>>>>did
>>>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>occur?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nothing particularly different from what
>>>>you've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>already partially described. But for a
>>>>>>>>>9-11-year-old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl, it was great.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I saw my brother naked a few times during
>>his
>>>>>>>bath
>>>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>his annual physical (as you said), or two
>or
>>>>>>>three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>times while he was being spanked, and once
>>in
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>river.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin while he was changing after his
>>>bath
>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>was at his house, and once (unfortunately
>>>only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>once...) during his annual physical, and in
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>river,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the same time as my brother.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>My sister's brother a few times when I was
>>>>>doing
>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>homework at his house (he changed after
>>>>playing
>>>>>>>>>>>soccer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>to go to take a bath).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Did you have a favorite boy to see among the
>>>3?
>>>>>>>How
>>>>>>>>>>>>did the physicals go? Did they have to face
>>>you
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>drop their pants one i did? Were you mainly
>>>>>>>>>>interested
>>>>>>>>>>>>to see their penises or did other areas
>>>>interest
>>>>>>>>>you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>Did your friend and you discuss seeing her
>>>>>>>brother?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin, because he was the oldest (I think
>>I
>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>crush on him as a child).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>The annual physical were, I think, similar to
>>>>>>>yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>They were in their underwear for the first
>>>part,
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>then they had to lower them for the
>testicular
>>>>>>exam
>>>>>>>>>>>for a hernia (they explained it to me later;
>>at
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>time, I didn't know why the pediatrician did
>>>>>>that).
>>>>>>>>>>>The last time with my brother I was 11 and he
>>>>was
>>>>>>>>14,
>>>>>>>>>>>with my cousin I was 9 and he was 13. With my
>>>>>>>female
>>>>>>>>>>>friend we were 9 so he was 11. My brother had
>>a
>>>>>>lot
>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>pubic hair last time and begged our mom not
>to
>>>>>let
>>>>>>>>me
>>>>>>>>>>>watch or to wait outside... but she responded
>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>usual phrase "Don't be silly, she's your
>>sister
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>little girl!" and the pediatrician continued
>>>her
>>>>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin also had some pubic hair at 13, but
>>>>>much
>>>>>>>>>>>less than my brother, but it was the first
>>time
>>>>I
>>>>>>>>saw
>>>>>>>>>>>him with hair, the other times he was
>>>hairless.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>I was also interested in their butts, but I
>>was
>>>>>>>>>mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>attracted to their penises (I must admit).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, she and I talked about this several
>>times.
>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>envied her because I only saw my brother or
>>>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>>>>naked occasionally, while she told me it
>>>>happened
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>her every day... It wasn't much different
>from
>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>brother at the same age, but it was a new
>>>penis,
>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>was interesting... lol...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the details Anna. I don't blame you
>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>being interested. I can remember every girls
>>>>>parts
>>>>>>>>>>that I saw in childhood and loved it. What
>>were
>>>>>>>some
>>>>>>>>>>of the differences in their penises? Anything
>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>noted?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My friend's brother's was the most childish,
>>>>>>>>>obviously. He hadn't even started puberty yet
>at
>>>>>11,
>>>>>>>>>so he was hairless, and his balls didn't sag
>>>much.
>>>>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>penis, however, was nice and fairly long.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My brother's was almost adult-sized, at least
>in
>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>memory. Thick and long, with lots of dark hair.
>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>balls were quite large, filling his sac well
>and
>>>>>>>>>sagging quite a bit.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My cousin's was almost as long as my brother's,
>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>less thick. His balls were slightly smaller,
>and
>>>>he
>>>>>>>>>only had pubic hair at the base of his penis on
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>left and right, not in the middle, and the hair
>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>shorter. He had just entered puberty. His hair
>>>was
>>>>>>>>>light brown.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Circumcision isn't very common here in Italy,
>so
>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>three were uncircumcised, with intact
>foreskins.
>>>>>>>When,
>>>>>>>>>at the end of the visit, the pediatrician
>>checked
>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>the foreskin was loose and that there was no
>>>>>redness
>>>>>>>>>at the tip, they both had the beginnings of
>>>>>>>>>erections... wow! omg!
>>>>>>>>>On the way back, they were embarrassed in the
>>car
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>remained silent the whole time...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Did you get to see them retracted? My cousin
>from
>>>>>>>>Germany was visiting and saw my penis. She kept
>>>>>>saying
>>>>>>>>how she loved are could see the end of it (her
>>>>>words)
>>>>>>>>all the time!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>During the visit, I saw the pediatrician
>>completely
>>>>>>>retract their foreskins and the pink tip
>emerge...
>>>>>>>lol...
>>>>>>>Once we got home, I asked both my brother and
>>>cousin
>>>>>>>if they'd let me see "the magic" again... I
>>>actually
>>>>>>>used that word...
>>>>>>>My little slit didn't do any of that; I was
>>jealous
>>>>>of
>>>>>>>their male parts, which were elongating,
>>hardening,
>>>>>>>and with the tip disappearing and appearing...
>>what
>>>>>an
>>>>>>>innocent, silly girl...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Lol that's great. What was their reaction when
>you
>>>>>>asked?
>>>>>
>>>>>They immediately replied, "Absolutely not! How
>>>>>embarrassing!"
>>>>>Then, after much persistence, they said yes, but I
>>>had
>>>>>to show my kitty (something I would never have
>>>>>done...).
>>>>>Finally, after much persuasion, I convinced them,
>>and
>>>>>they both showed me their covered penises, then
>>>slowly
>>>>>pulled back the foreskin, exposing the tip
>>>completely.
>>>>>They remained like that for a few seconds, just
>long
>>>>>enough to show me a good look, then they put it
>back
>>>>>and put on their underwear.
>>>>>WOW!
>>>>
>>>>That's a great experience for a young girl. One on
>>the
>>>>reverse standard. As a young boy, my aunt cousin
>and
>>>>her friend would take me to the park. If they had to
>>>>use the bathroom, they'd go into the women's room.
>>>>They would ask me if I had to use it. This was a
>>>>single stall bathroom. We'd all go in at once to use
>>>>it. My cousin a girl 3 years older, objected to me
>>>>being in there but they used the same phrase " he's
>>>>just a boy!". The friend looked hesitant as well but
>>>>the aunt rolled her eyes and dropped her pants. I
>got
>>>>to watch 3 ladies pee! A real special thing for a
>>>>young boy.
>>>
>>>Dave, you're right, it was a great experience for a
>>>10-11 year old. It remained in my mind after so many
>>>years as if it happened yesterday…
>>>I didn't think they'd finally give in and let me see
>>>it. But they did it! OMG!
>>>But I was so eager to see him again, more time and
>>>more closely after the first time at the
>pediatrician,
>>>that I think I was a little pushy and just exhausted
>>>them… lol…
>>>
>>>My brother, poor thing, has never had any reverse
>>>experiences… I think he would have liked to be in
>>>your place at the park. How old were you when it
>>>happened? Was your cousin's friend three years older
>>>than you as your cousin?
>>>I guess you looked carefully... lol... I would have
>>>looked carefully in the situation with three guys…
>>>lol…
>>>How did your cousin's friend react or what did she
>say
>>>when your aunt pulled down her pants?
>>
>>I was about 9. Hadn't started puberty but right on the
>>cusp. I had seen my sisters vagina when we were very
>>small so I knew what I was expecting but when my aunt
>>pulled her pants down and I saw the hair and lips I
>>was pretty shocked. I was also fascinated as I always
>>wondered how girls peed. Did you ever see boys pee?
>>
>>My cousin was kind of incredulous when my aunt whipped
>>down her pants and then when she finished she told my
>>cousin to go because we won't have another bathroom
>>for several hours. That's when she objected to me
>>being there and my aunt chastised her. " it's a little
>>boy and your cousin he doesn't care!". Oh how wrong
>>she was lol. Her friend after just shrugged and pulled
>>down her pants as well so I got to see all 3!
>>
>>Both were the same age in school together.
>
>
>I totally understand. I was shocked too the first time
>I saw my brother (and then my cousin) with pubic hair,
>even though it wasn't the first time I'd ever seen
>their penises.
>Did her friend have pubic hair, too?
>
>Yes, I saw my brother pee and my friend's brother too.
>Fascinating... very different from how I used to do
>it; they were standing...
How did you see them? Outside or in?
Both the girls had the beginning of pubic hair growth. My cousin had much darker hair.
Date Posted:09:50:13 11/16/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 149.22.84.153
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, I have managed to use both my
>>first
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>middle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name on this forum. I will probably
>>stick
>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Burton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or Burt going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>After finding this forum and posting
>the
>>>>>>>>tomboy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thread, I started thinking about
>similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>situations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>might have experienced or heard about.
>>>>This
>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>told to me by my wife years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When she was 9 or 10, she was across
>the
>>>>>>>>street
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing at a friend's house a girl of
>>the
>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>>>>>>age.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The family was beginning the packing
>>>>>process
>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>trip and the mom was scurrying about
>>>>making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>preparations. The two girls were
>>>engrossed
>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing Barbies. After a time, her
>>friend
>>>>>>>>asked
>>>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wanted a popsicle. They then went
>>>looking
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl's mother, hearing her voice coming
>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brothers room who was 14 or 15 at the
>>>>time.
>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wandered in to the room to find the
>>>mother
>>>>>>>>>>having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>son try on the previous years swimsuits
>>>to
>>>>>>>see
>>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>still fit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The boy who was naked at the time,
>>>>>exclaimed
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mother that the girls should leave. His
>>>>>>>>>mother's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. " oh, they are just little girls, it
>>>>>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>matter." The boy had to continue trying
>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>bathing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suits at the mothers insistence while
>>the
>>>>>>two
>>>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stood there begging for popsicles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I thought about that and remembered
>>being
>>>>>>>told
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>same thing by my mother about my sister
>>>>and
>>>>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So, my question is as a boy or young
>>man,
>>>>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ever told this? Or for you ladies, were
>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lucky little girls who were "far to
>>>young"
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>understand what you were seeing (lol)
>>and
>>>>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stick around?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The "don't be silly, she's just a little
>>>>>>girl"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>comment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brings to mind various experiences I had
>>>as
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>child.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Both with my brother (who is three years
>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>me) and with my male cousin, who is four
>>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than me, as well as with my classmate's
>>>>>>>brother
>>>>>>>>>>>>(two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>years older than us). They were both
>very
>>>>>shy
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ashamed and complained to my mother and
>>my
>>>>>>>>aunt,
>>>>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>their answer was always "don't be silly,
>>>>>>she's
>>>>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>little girl".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And while this was true when I was 5 or
>6
>>>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>>old,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and I have very vague memories of those
>>>>>>>>episodes
>>>>>>>>>>>>(my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother and cousin recalled them years
>>>>>later,
>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>evening at dinner, all three of us with
>>>our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>respective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spouses, we talked about childhood
>>>>>>nudity…),
>>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other hand, I do have very clear
>memories
>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was 9 or 10 or 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I assure you, the phrase "don't be
>silly,
>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just little girls, they don't notice
>>these
>>>>>>>>>>things"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not true! We notice them! At least after
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>age
>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>7/8…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This post could also be under "The
>Double
>>>>>>>>>>>Standard"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but I published it here because this
>>>>>sentence
>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>remained imprinted in my mind (and
>>>>>especially
>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>minds of my brother and cousin… lol…
>>>).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Anna i for one would love to hear the
>>>>details
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you saw them nude. Under what
>>circumstances
>>>>>>did
>>>>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>occur?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nothing particularly different from what
>>>>>you've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>already partially described. But for a
>>>>>>>>>>9-11-year-old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl, it was great.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I saw my brother naked a few times during
>>>his
>>>>>>>>bath
>>>>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his annual physical (as you said), or two
>>or
>>>>>>>>three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>times while he was being spanked, and once
>>>in
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>river.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin while he was changing after his
>>>>bath
>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was at his house, and once (unfortunately
>>>>only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>once...) during his annual physical, and
>in
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>river,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the same time as my brother.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My sister's brother a few times when I was
>>>>>>doing
>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>homework at his house (he changed after
>>>>>playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>soccer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to go to take a bath).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did you have a favorite boy to see among
>the
>>>>3?
>>>>>>>>How
>>>>>>>>>>>>>did the physicals go? Did they have to face
>>>>you
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>drop their pants one i did? Were you mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>interested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>to see their penises or did other areas
>>>>>interest
>>>>>>>>>>you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did your friend and you discuss seeing her
>>>>>>>>brother?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin, because he was the oldest (I
>think
>>>I
>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>crush on him as a child).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>The annual physical were, I think, similar
>to
>>>>>>>>yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>They were in their underwear for the first
>>>>part,
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>then they had to lower them for the
>>testicular
>>>>>>>exam
>>>>>>>>>>>>for a hernia (they explained it to me later;
>>>at
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>time, I didn't know why the pediatrician did
>>>>>>>that).
>>>>>>>>>>>>The last time with my brother I was 11 and
>he
>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>14,
>>>>>>>>>>>>with my cousin I was 9 and he was 13. With
>my
>>>>>>>>female
>>>>>>>>>>>>friend we were 9 so he was 11. My brother
>had
>>>a
>>>>>>>lot
>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>pubic hair last time and begged our mom not
>>to
>>>>>>let
>>>>>>>>>me
>>>>>>>>>>>>watch or to wait outside... but she
>responded
>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>usual phrase "Don't be silly, she's your
>>>sister
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>little girl!" and the pediatrician continued
>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin also had some pubic hair at 13,
>but
>>>>>>much
>>>>>>>>>>>>less than my brother, but it was the first
>>>time
>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>saw
>>>>>>>>>>>>him with hair, the other times he was
>>>>hairless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I was also interested in their butts, but I
>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>attracted to their penises (I must admit).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, she and I talked about this several
>>>times.
>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>envied her because I only saw my brother or
>>>>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>>>>>naked occasionally, while she told me it
>>>>>happened
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>her every day... It wasn't much different
>>from
>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>brother at the same age, but it was a new
>>>>penis,
>>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>>was interesting... lol...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the details Anna. I don't blame
>you
>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>being interested. I can remember every girls
>>>>>>parts
>>>>>>>>>>>that I saw in childhood and loved it. What
>>>were
>>>>>>>>some
>>>>>>>>>>>of the differences in their penises? Anything
>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>noted?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My friend's brother's was the most childish,
>>>>>>>>>>obviously. He hadn't even started puberty yet
>>at
>>>>>>11,
>>>>>>>>>>so he was hairless, and his balls didn't sag
>>>>much.
>>>>>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>>penis, however, was nice and fairly long.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My brother's was almost adult-sized, at least
>>in
>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>memory. Thick and long, with lots of dark
>hair.
>>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>>balls were quite large, filling his sac well
>>and
>>>>>>>>>>sagging quite a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My cousin's was almost as long as my
>brother's,
>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>less thick. His balls were slightly smaller,
>>and
>>>>>he
>>>>>>>>>>only had pubic hair at the base of his penis
>on
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>left and right, not in the middle, and the
>hair
>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>shorter. He had just entered puberty. His hair
>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>light brown.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Circumcision isn't very common here in Italy,
>>so
>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>>three were uncircumcised, with intact
>>foreskins.
>>>>>>>>When,
>>>>>>>>>>at the end of the visit, the pediatrician
>>>checked
>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>the foreskin was loose and that there was no
>>>>>>redness
>>>>>>>>>>at the tip, they both had the beginnings of
>>>>>>>>>>erections... wow! omg!
>>>>>>>>>>On the way back, they were embarrassed in the
>>>car
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>remained silent the whole time...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Did you get to see them retracted? My cousin
>>from
>>>>>>>>>Germany was visiting and saw my penis. She kept
>>>>>>>saying
>>>>>>>>>how she loved are could see the end of it (her
>>>>>>words)
>>>>>>>>>all the time!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>During the visit, I saw the pediatrician
>>>completely
>>>>>>>>retract their foreskins and the pink tip
>>emerge...
>>>>>>>>lol...
>>>>>>>>Once we got home, I asked both my brother and
>>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>if they'd let me see "the magic" again... I
>>>>actually
>>>>>>>>used that word...
>>>>>>>>My little slit didn't do any of that; I was
>>>jealous
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>their male parts, which were elongating,
>>>hardening,
>>>>>>>>and with the tip disappearing and appearing...
>>>what
>>>>>>an
>>>>>>>>innocent, silly girl...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Lol that's great. What was their reaction when
>>you
>>>>>>>asked?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>They immediately replied, "Absolutely not! How
>>>>>>embarrassing!"
>>>>>>Then, after much persistence, they said yes, but I
>>>>had
>>>>>>to show my kitty (something I would never have
>>>>>>done...).
>>>>>>Finally, after much persuasion, I convinced them,
>>>and
>>>>>>they both showed me their covered penises, then
>>>>slowly
>>>>>>pulled back the foreskin, exposing the tip
>>>>completely.
>>>>>>They remained like that for a few seconds, just
>>long
>>>>>>enough to show me a good look, then they put it
>>back
>>>>>>and put on their underwear.
>>>>>>WOW!
>>>>>
>>>>>That's a great experience for a young girl. One on
>>>the
>>>>>reverse standard. As a young boy, my aunt cousin
>>and
>>>>>her friend would take me to the park. If they had
>to
>>>>>use the bathroom, they'd go into the women's room.
>>>>>They would ask me if I had to use it. This was a
>>>>>single stall bathroom. We'd all go in at once to
>use
>>>>>it. My cousin a girl 3 years older, objected to me
>>>>>being in there but they used the same phrase " he's
>>>>>just a boy!". The friend looked hesitant as well
>but
>>>>>the aunt rolled her eyes and dropped her pants. I
>>got
>>>>>to watch 3 ladies pee! A real special thing for a
>>>>>young boy.
>>>>
>>>>Dave, you're right, it was a great experience for a
>>>>10-11 year old. It remained in my mind after so many
>>>>years as if it happened yesterday…
>>>>I didn't think they'd finally give in and let me see
>>>>it. But they did it! OMG!
>>>>But I was so eager to see him again, more time and
>>>>more closely after the first time at the
>>pediatrician,
>>>>that I think I was a little pushy and just exhausted
>>>>them… lol…
>>>>
>>>>My brother, poor thing, has never had any reverse
>>>>experiences… I think he would have liked to be in
>>>>your place at the park. How old were you when it
>>>>happened? Was your cousin's friend three years older
>>>>than you as your cousin?
>>>>I guess you looked carefully... lol... I would have
>>>>looked carefully in the situation with three guys…
>>>>lol…
>>>>How did your cousin's friend react or what did she
>>say
>>>>when your aunt pulled down her pants?
>>>
>>>I was about 9. Hadn't started puberty but right on
>the
>>>cusp. I had seen my sisters vagina when we were very
>>>small so I knew what I was expecting but when my aunt
>>>pulled her pants down and I saw the hair and lips I
>>>was pretty shocked. I was also fascinated as I always
>>>wondered how girls peed. Did you ever see boys pee?
>>>
>>>My cousin was kind of incredulous when my aunt
>whipped
>>>down her pants and then when she finished she told my
>>>cousin to go because we won't have another bathroom
>>>for several hours. That's when she objected to me
>>>being there and my aunt chastised her. " it's a
>little
>>>boy and your cousin he doesn't care!". Oh how wrong
>>>she was lol. Her friend after just shrugged and
>pulled
>>>down her pants as well so I got to see all 3!
>>>
>>>Both were the same age in school together.
>>
>>
>>I totally understand. I was shocked too the first time
>>I saw my brother (and then my cousin) with pubic hair,
>>even though it wasn't the first time I'd ever seen
>>their penises.
>>Did her friend have pubic hair, too?
>>
>>Yes, I saw my brother pee and my friend's brother too.
>>Fascinating... very different from how I used to do
>>it; they were standing...
>
>How did you see them? Outside or in?
>
>Both the girls had the beginning of pubic hair growth.
>My cousin had much darker hair.
My friend's brother at his house. My friend and I had finished our homework and went to her room to play. In the hallway, we passed the bathroom where her brother was peeing with the door partially open, probably because he was in a hurry or because he was used to it and hadn't considered my presence that day. My friend said, "Let's go," and we went into the bathroom. He protested, saying I could see him, but my friend told him we needed to wash our hands because we had to eat our snack (a lie... lol...). He was halfway through and couldn't stop himself from peeing and hiding his penis in his underwear. So all he could do was finish his business while his sister and I watched from less than a meter away. OMG! How exciting.
My brother twice. Once at our house and once at the river. At the river he was probably 9 or 10 years old, while at our house he was older, I'd say 11 or 12.
At 12, I also already had pubic hair. Not like a fully grown girl, obviously, but I already had some on my pubic area, a nice tuft, but not yet on my lips. Very dark, black, like my brother's. He and I have black hair (on our heads), and the hair down there is black too. My male cousin on the other hand has light brown, almost blonde hair.
Date Posted:11:15:40 11/16/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 174.236.39.58
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, I have managed to use both my
>>>first
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>middle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name on this forum. I will probably
>>>stick
>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Burton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or Burt going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>After finding this forum and posting
>>the
>>>>>>>>>tomboy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thread, I started thinking about
>>similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>situations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>might have experienced or heard about.
>>>>>This
>>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>told to me by my wife years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When she was 9 or 10, she was across
>>the
>>>>>>>>>street
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing at a friend's house a girl of
>>>the
>>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>age.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The family was beginning the packing
>>>>>>process
>>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>trip and the mom was scurrying about
>>>>>making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>preparations. The two girls were
>>>>engrossed
>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing Barbies. After a time, her
>>>friend
>>>>>>>>>asked
>>>>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wanted a popsicle. They then went
>>>>looking
>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl's mother, hearing her voice
>coming
>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brothers room who was 14 or 15 at the
>>>>>time.
>>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wandered in to the room to find the
>>>>mother
>>>>>>>>>>>having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>son try on the previous years
>swimsuits
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>see
>>>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>still fit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The boy who was naked at the time,
>>>>>>exclaimed
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mother that the girls should leave.
>His
>>>>>>>>>>mother's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. " oh, they are just little girls,
>it
>>>>>>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>matter." The boy had to continue
>trying
>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>>bathing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suits at the mothers insistence while
>>>the
>>>>>>>two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stood there begging for popsicles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I thought about that and remembered
>>>being
>>>>>>>>told
>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>same thing by my mother about my
>sister
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So, my question is as a boy or young
>>>man,
>>>>>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ever told this? Or for you ladies,
>were
>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lucky little girls who were "far to
>>>>young"
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>understand what you were seeing (lol)
>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stick around?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The "don't be silly, she's just a
>little
>>>>>>>girl"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>comment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brings to mind various experiences I
>had
>>>>as
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>child.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Both with my brother (who is three
>years
>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>me) and with my male cousin, who is
>four
>>>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than me, as well as with my classmate's
>>>>>>>>brother
>>>>>>>>>>>>>(two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>years older than us). They were both
>>very
>>>>>>shy
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ashamed and complained to my mother and
>>>my
>>>>>>>>>aunt,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>their answer was always "don't be
>silly,
>>>>>>>she's
>>>>>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>little girl".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And while this was true when I was 5 or
>>6
>>>>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>old,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and I have very vague memories of those
>>>>>>>>>episodes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>(my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother and cousin recalled them years
>>>>>>later,
>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>evening at dinner, all three of us with
>>>>our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>respective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spouses, we talked about childhood
>>>>>>>nudity…),
>>>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other hand, I do have very clear
>>memories
>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was 9 or 10 or 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I assure you, the phrase "don't be
>>silly,
>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just little girls, they don't notice
>>>these
>>>>>>>>>>>things"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not true! We notice them! At least
>after
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>age
>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>7/8…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This post could also be under "The
>>Double
>>>>>>>>>>>>Standard"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but I published it here because this
>>>>>>sentence
>>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>remained imprinted in my mind (and
>>>>>>especially
>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>minds of my brother and cousin…
>lol…
>>>>).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Anna i for one would love to hear the
>>>>>details
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you saw them nude. Under what
>>>circumstances
>>>>>>>did
>>>>>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>occur?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nothing particularly different from what
>>>>>>you've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>already partially described. But for a
>>>>>>>>>>>9-11-year-old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl, it was great.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I saw my brother naked a few times during
>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>bath
>>>>>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his annual physical (as you said), or two
>>>or
>>>>>>>>>three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>times while he was being spanked, and
>once
>>>>in
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>river.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin while he was changing after his
>>>>>bath
>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was at his house, and once (unfortunately
>>>>>only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>once...) during his annual physical, and
>>in
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>river,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the same time as my brother.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My sister's brother a few times when I
>was
>>>>>>>doing
>>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>homework at his house (he changed after
>>>>>>playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>soccer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to go to take a bath).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did you have a favorite boy to see among
>>the
>>>>>3?
>>>>>>>>>How
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>did the physicals go? Did they have to
>face
>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>drop their pants one i did? Were you
>mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>interested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to see their penises or did other areas
>>>>>>interest
>>>>>>>>>>>you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did your friend and you discuss seeing her
>>>>>>>>>brother?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin, because he was the oldest (I
>>think
>>>>I
>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>crush on him as a child).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>The annual physical were, I think, similar
>>to
>>>>>>>>>yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>They were in their underwear for the first
>>>>>part,
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>then they had to lower them for the
>>>testicular
>>>>>>>>exam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>for a hernia (they explained it to me
>later;
>>>>at
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>time, I didn't know why the pediatrician
>did
>>>>>>>>that).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>The last time with my brother I was 11 and
>>he
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>14,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>with my cousin I was 9 and he was 13. With
>>my
>>>>>>>>>female
>>>>>>>>>>>>>friend we were 9 so he was 11. My brother
>>had
>>>>a
>>>>>>>>lot
>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>pubic hair last time and begged our mom not
>>>to
>>>>>>>let
>>>>>>>>>>me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>watch or to wait outside... but she
>>responded
>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>usual phrase "Don't be silly, she's your
>>>>sister
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>little girl!" and the pediatrician
>continued
>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin also had some pubic hair at 13,
>>but
>>>>>>>much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>less than my brother, but it was the first
>>>>time
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>saw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>him with hair, the other times he was
>>>>>hairless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I was also interested in their butts, but I
>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>attracted to their penises (I must admit).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, she and I talked about this several
>>>>times.
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>envied her because I only saw my brother or
>>>>>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>naked occasionally, while she told me it
>>>>>>happened
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>her every day... It wasn't much different
>>>from
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother at the same age, but it was a new
>>>>>penis,
>>>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>was interesting... lol...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the details Anna. I don't blame
>>you
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>being interested. I can remember every
>girls
>>>>>>>parts
>>>>>>>>>>>>that I saw in childhood and loved it. What
>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>some
>>>>>>>>>>>>of the differences in their penises?
>Anything
>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>noted?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>My friend's brother's was the most childish,
>>>>>>>>>>>obviously. He hadn't even started puberty yet
>>>at
>>>>>>>11,
>>>>>>>>>>>so he was hairless, and his balls didn't sag
>>>>>much.
>>>>>>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>>>penis, however, was nice and fairly long.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>My brother's was almost adult-sized, at least
>>>in
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>memory. Thick and long, with lots of dark
>>hair.
>>>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>>>balls were quite large, filling his sac well
>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>sagging quite a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin's was almost as long as my
>>brother's,
>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>less thick. His balls were slightly smaller,
>>>and
>>>>>>he
>>>>>>>>>>>only had pubic hair at the base of his penis
>>on
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>left and right, not in the middle, and the
>>hair
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>shorter. He had just entered puberty. His
>hair
>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>light brown.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Circumcision isn't very common here in Italy,
>>>so
>>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>>>three were uncircumcised, with intact
>>>foreskins.
>>>>>>>>>When,
>>>>>>>>>>>at the end of the visit, the pediatrician
>>>>checked
>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>>the foreskin was loose and that there was no
>>>>>>>redness
>>>>>>>>>>>at the tip, they both had the beginnings of
>>>>>>>>>>>erections... wow! omg!
>>>>>>>>>>>On the way back, they were embarrassed in the
>>>>car
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>remained silent the whole time...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Did you get to see them retracted? My cousin
>>>from
>>>>>>>>>>Germany was visiting and saw my penis. She
>kept
>>>>>>>>saying
>>>>>>>>>>how she loved are could see the end of it (her
>>>>>>>words)
>>>>>>>>>>all the time!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>During the visit, I saw the pediatrician
>>>>completely
>>>>>>>>>retract their foreskins and the pink tip
>>>emerge...
>>>>>>>>>lol...
>>>>>>>>>Once we got home, I asked both my brother and
>>>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>>if they'd let me see "the magic" again... I
>>>>>actually
>>>>>>>>>used that word...
>>>>>>>>>My little slit didn't do any of that; I was
>>>>jealous
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>their male parts, which were elongating,
>>>>hardening,
>>>>>>>>>and with the tip disappearing and appearing...
>>>>what
>>>>>>>an
>>>>>>>>>innocent, silly girl...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Lol that's great. What was their reaction when
>>>you
>>>>>>>>asked?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>They immediately replied, "Absolutely not! How
>>>>>>>embarrassing!"
>>>>>>>Then, after much persistence, they said yes, but
>I
>>>>>had
>>>>>>>to show my kitty (something I would never have
>>>>>>>done...).
>>>>>>>Finally, after much persuasion, I convinced them,
>>>>and
>>>>>>>they both showed me their covered penises, then
>>>>>slowly
>>>>>>>pulled back the foreskin, exposing the tip
>>>>>completely.
>>>>>>>They remained like that for a few seconds, just
>>>long
>>>>>>>enough to show me a good look, then they put it
>>>back
>>>>>>>and put on their underwear.
>>>>>>>WOW!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's a great experience for a young girl. One on
>>>>the
>>>>>>reverse standard. As a young boy, my aunt cousin
>>>and
>>>>>>her friend would take me to the park. If they had
>>to
>>>>>>use the bathroom, they'd go into the women's
>room.
>>>>>>They would ask me if I had to use it. This was a
>>>>>>single stall bathroom. We'd all go in at once to
>>use
>>>>>>it. My cousin a girl 3 years older, objected to
>me
>>>>>>being in there but they used the same phrase "
>he's
>>>>>>just a boy!". The friend looked hesitant as well
>>but
>>>>>>the aunt rolled her eyes and dropped her pants. I
>>>got
>>>>>>to watch 3 ladies pee! A real special thing for a
>>>>>>young boy.
>>>>>
>>>>>Dave, you're right, it was a great experience for a
>>>>>10-11 year old. It remained in my mind after so
>many
>>>>>years as if it happened yesterday…
>>>>>I didn't think they'd finally give in and let me
>see
>>>>>it. But they did it! OMG!
>>>>>But I was so eager to see him again, more time and
>>>>>more closely after the first time at the
>>>pediatrician,
>>>>>that I think I was a little pushy and just
>exhausted
>>>>>them… lol…
>>>>>
>>>>>My brother, poor thing, has never had any reverse
>>>>>experiences… I think he would have liked to be in
>>>>>your place at the park. How old were you when it
>>>>>happened? Was your cousin's friend three years
>older
>>>>>than you as your cousin?
>>>>>I guess you looked carefully... lol... I would have
>>>>>looked carefully in the situation with three
>guys…
>>>>>lol…
>>>>>How did your cousin's friend react or what did she
>>>say
>>>>>when your aunt pulled down her pants?
>>>>
>>>>I was about 9. Hadn't started puberty but right on
>>the
>>>>cusp. I had seen my sisters vagina when we were very
>>>>small so I knew what I was expecting but when my
>aunt
>>>>pulled her pants down and I saw the hair and lips I
>>>>was pretty shocked. I was also fascinated as I
>always
>>>>wondered how girls peed. Did you ever see boys pee?
>>>>
>>>>My cousin was kind of incredulous when my aunt
>>whipped
>>>>down her pants and then when she finished she told
>my
>>>>cousin to go because we won't have another bathroom
>>>>for several hours. That's when she objected to me
>>>>being there and my aunt chastised her. " it's a
>>little
>>>>boy and your cousin he doesn't care!". Oh how wrong
>>>>she was lol. Her friend after just shrugged and
>>pulled
>>>>down her pants as well so I got to see all 3!
>>>>
>>>>Both were the same age in school together.
>>>
>>>
>>>I totally understand. I was shocked too the first
>time
>>>I saw my brother (and then my cousin) with pubic
>hair,
>>>even though it wasn't the first time I'd ever seen
>>>their penises.
>>>Did her friend have pubic hair, too?
>>>
>>>Yes, I saw my brother pee and my friend's brother
>too.
>>>Fascinating... very different from how I used to do
>>>it; they were standing...
>>
>>How did you see them? Outside or in?
>>
>>Both the girls had the beginning of pubic hair growth.
>>My cousin had much darker hair.
>
>
>My friend's brother at his house. My friend and I had
>finished our homework and went to her room to play. In
>the hallway, we passed the bathroom where her brother
>was peeing with the door partially open, probably
>because he was in a hurry or because he was used to it
>and hadn't considered my presence that day. My friend
>said, "Let's go," and we went into the bathroom. He
>protested, saying I could see him, but my friend told
>him we needed to wash our hands because we had to eat
>our snack (a lie... lol...). He was halfway through
>and couldn't stop himself from peeing and hiding his
>penis in his underwear. So all he could do was finish
>his business while his sister and I watched from less
>than a meter away. OMG! How exciting.
>
>My brother twice. Once at our house and once at the
>river. At the river he was probably 9 or 10 years old,
>while at our house he was older, I'd say 11 or 12.
>
>At 12, I also already had pubic hair. Not like a fully
>grown girl, obviously, but I already had some on my
>pubic area, a nice tuft, but not yet on my lips. Very
>dark, black, like my brother's. He and I have black
>hair (on our heads), and the hair down there is black
>too. My male cousin on the other hand has light brown,
>almost blonde hair.
Very daring of you to walk right in lol. I have many experiences where girls watched me pee in my childhood.
Date Posted:12:57:11 11/16/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 149.36.51.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, I have managed to use both my
>>>>first
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>middle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name on this forum. I will probably
>>>>stick
>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Burton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or Burt going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>After finding this forum and posting
>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>tomboy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thread, I started thinking about
>>>similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>situations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>might have experienced or heard
>about.
>>>>>>This
>>>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>told to me by my wife years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When she was 9 or 10, she was across
>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>street
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing at a friend's house a girl of
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>age.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The family was beginning the packing
>>>>>>>process
>>>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>trip and the mom was scurrying about
>>>>>>making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>preparations. The two girls were
>>>>>engrossed
>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing Barbies. After a time, her
>>>>friend
>>>>>>>>>>asked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wanted a popsicle. They then went
>>>>>looking
>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl's mother, hearing her voice
>>coming
>>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brothers room who was 14 or 15 at the
>>>>>>time.
>>>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wandered in to the room to find the
>>>>>mother
>>>>>>>>>>>>having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>son try on the previous years
>>swimsuits
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>see
>>>>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>still fit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The boy who was naked at the time,
>>>>>>>exclaimed
>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mother that the girls should leave.
>>His
>>>>>>>>>>>mother's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. " oh, they are just little girls,
>>it
>>>>>>>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>matter." The boy had to continue
>>trying
>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>bathing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suits at the mothers insistence while
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stood there begging for popsicles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I thought about that and remembered
>>>>being
>>>>>>>>>told
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>same thing by my mother about my
>>sister
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So, my question is as a boy or young
>>>>man,
>>>>>>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ever told this? Or for you ladies,
>>were
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lucky little girls who were "far to
>>>>>young"
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>understand what you were seeing (lol)
>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stick around?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The "don't be silly, she's just a
>>little
>>>>>>>>girl"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>comment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brings to mind various experiences I
>>had
>>>>>as
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>child.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Both with my brother (who is three
>>years
>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>me) and with my male cousin, who is
>>four
>>>>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than me, as well as with my
>classmate's
>>>>>>>>>brother
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>years older than us). They were both
>>>very
>>>>>>>shy
>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ashamed and complained to my mother
>and
>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>aunt,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>their answer was always "don't be
>>silly,
>>>>>>>>she's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>little girl".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And while this was true when I was 5
>or
>>>6
>>>>>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>old,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and I have very vague memories of
>those
>>>>>>>>>>episodes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother and cousin recalled them years
>>>>>>>later,
>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>evening at dinner, all three of us
>with
>>>>>our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>respective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spouses, we talked about childhood
>>>>>>>>nudity…),
>>>>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other hand, I do have very clear
>>>memories
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was 9 or 10 or 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I assure you, the phrase "don't be
>>>silly,
>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just little girls, they don't notice
>>>>these
>>>>>>>>>>>>things"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not true! We notice them! At least
>>after
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>7/8…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This post could also be under "The
>>>Double
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Standard"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but I published it here because this
>>>>>>>sentence
>>>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>remained imprinted in my mind (and
>>>>>>>especially
>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>minds of my brother and cousin…
>>lol…
>>>>>).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Anna i for one would love to hear the
>>>>>>details
>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you saw them nude. Under what
>>>>circumstances
>>>>>>>>did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>occur?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nothing particularly different from what
>>>>>>>you've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>already partially described. But for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>9-11-year-old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl, it was great.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I saw my brother naked a few times
>during
>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>>bath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his annual physical (as you said), or
>two
>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>times while he was being spanked, and
>>once
>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>river.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin while he was changing after
>his
>>>>>>bath
>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was at his house, and once
>(unfortunately
>>>>>>only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>once...) during his annual physical, and
>>>in
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>river,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the same time as my brother.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My sister's brother a few times when I
>>was
>>>>>>>>doing
>>>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>homework at his house (he changed after
>>>>>>>playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>soccer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to go to take a bath).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did you have a favorite boy to see among
>>>the
>>>>>>3?
>>>>>>>>>>How
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>did the physicals go? Did they have to
>>face
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>drop their pants one i did? Were you
>>mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>interested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to see their penises or did other areas
>>>>>>>interest
>>>>>>>>>>>>you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did your friend and you discuss seeing
>her
>>>>>>>>>>brother?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin, because he was the oldest (I
>>>think
>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>crush on him as a child).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The annual physical were, I think, similar
>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>They were in their underwear for the first
>>>>>>part,
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>then they had to lower them for the
>>>>testicular
>>>>>>>>>exam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for a hernia (they explained it to me
>>later;
>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>time, I didn't know why the pediatrician
>>did
>>>>>>>>>that).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The last time with my brother I was 11 and
>>>he
>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>14,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with my cousin I was 9 and he was 13. With
>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>female
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friend we were 9 so he was 11. My brother
>>>had
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pubic hair last time and begged our mom
>not
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>let
>>>>>>>>>>>me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>watch or to wait outside... but she
>>>responded
>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>usual phrase "Don't be silly, she's your
>>>>>sister
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>little girl!" and the pediatrician
>>continued
>>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin also had some pubic hair at 13,
>>>but
>>>>>>>>much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>less than my brother, but it was the first
>>>>>time
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>saw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>him with hair, the other times he was
>>>>>>hairless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I was also interested in their butts, but
>I
>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>attracted to their penises (I must admit).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, she and I talked about this several
>>>>>times.
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>envied her because I only saw my brother
>or
>>>>>>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>naked occasionally, while she told me it
>>>>>>>happened
>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>her every day... It wasn't much different
>>>>from
>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother at the same age, but it was a new
>>>>>>penis,
>>>>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was interesting... lol...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the details Anna. I don't blame
>>>you
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>being interested. I can remember every
>>girls
>>>>>>>>parts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>that I saw in childhood and loved it. What
>>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>>some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>of the differences in their penises?
>>Anything
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>noted?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>My friend's brother's was the most childish,
>>>>>>>>>>>>obviously. He hadn't even started puberty
>yet
>>>>at
>>>>>>>>11,
>>>>>>>>>>>>so he was hairless, and his balls didn't sag
>>>>>>much.
>>>>>>>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>>>>penis, however, was nice and fairly long.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>My brother's was almost adult-sized, at
>least
>>>>in
>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>memory. Thick and long, with lots of dark
>>>hair.
>>>>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>>>>balls were quite large, filling his sac well
>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>sagging quite a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin's was almost as long as my
>>>brother's,
>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>less thick. His balls were slightly smaller,
>>>>and
>>>>>>>he
>>>>>>>>>>>>only had pubic hair at the base of his penis
>>>on
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>left and right, not in the middle, and the
>>>hair
>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>shorter. He had just entered puberty. His
>>hair
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>light brown.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Circumcision isn't very common here in
>Italy,
>>>>so
>>>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>>>>three were uncircumcised, with intact
>>>>foreskins.
>>>>>>>>>>When,
>>>>>>>>>>>>at the end of the visit, the pediatrician
>>>>>checked
>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>>>the foreskin was loose and that there was no
>>>>>>>>redness
>>>>>>>>>>>>at the tip, they both had the beginnings of
>>>>>>>>>>>>erections... wow! omg!
>>>>>>>>>>>>On the way back, they were embarrassed in
>the
>>>>>car
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>remained silent the whole time...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Did you get to see them retracted? My cousin
>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>>>Germany was visiting and saw my penis. She
>>kept
>>>>>>>>>saying
>>>>>>>>>>>how she loved are could see the end of it
>(her
>>>>>>>>words)
>>>>>>>>>>>all the time!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>During the visit, I saw the pediatrician
>>>>>completely
>>>>>>>>>>retract their foreskins and the pink tip
>>>>emerge...
>>>>>>>>>>lol...
>>>>>>>>>>Once we got home, I asked both my brother and
>>>>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>>>if they'd let me see "the magic" again... I
>>>>>>actually
>>>>>>>>>>used that word...
>>>>>>>>>>My little slit didn't do any of that; I was
>>>>>jealous
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>their male parts, which were elongating,
>>>>>hardening,
>>>>>>>>>>and with the tip disappearing and appearing...
>>>>>what
>>>>>>>>an
>>>>>>>>>>innocent, silly girl...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Lol that's great. What was their reaction when
>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>asked?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>They immediately replied, "Absolutely not! How
>>>>>>>>embarrassing!"
>>>>>>>>Then, after much persistence, they said yes, but
>>I
>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>to show my kitty (something I would never have
>>>>>>>>done...).
>>>>>>>>Finally, after much persuasion, I convinced
>them,
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>they both showed me their covered penises, then
>>>>>>slowly
>>>>>>>>pulled back the foreskin, exposing the tip
>>>>>>completely.
>>>>>>>>They remained like that for a few seconds, just
>>>>long
>>>>>>>>enough to show me a good look, then they put it
>>>>back
>>>>>>>>and put on their underwear.
>>>>>>>>WOW!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>That's a great experience for a young girl. One
>on
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>reverse standard. As a young boy, my aunt cousin
>>>>and
>>>>>>>her friend would take me to the park. If they had
>>>to
>>>>>>>use the bathroom, they'd go into the women's
>>room.
>>>>>>>They would ask me if I had to use it. This was a
>>>>>>>single stall bathroom. We'd all go in at once to
>>>use
>>>>>>>it. My cousin a girl 3 years older, objected to
>>me
>>>>>>>being in there but they used the same phrase "
>>he's
>>>>>>>just a boy!". The friend looked hesitant as well
>>>but
>>>>>>>the aunt rolled her eyes and dropped her pants. I
>>>>got
>>>>>>>to watch 3 ladies pee! A real special thing for a
>>>>>>>young boy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Dave, you're right, it was a great experience for
>a
>>>>>>10-11 year old. It remained in my mind after so
>>many
>>>>>>years as if it happened yesterday…
>>>>>>I didn't think they'd finally give in and let me
>>see
>>>>>>it. But they did it! OMG!
>>>>>>But I was so eager to see him again, more time and
>>>>>>more closely after the first time at the
>>>>pediatrician,
>>>>>>that I think I was a little pushy and just
>>exhausted
>>>>>>them… lol…
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My brother, poor thing, has never had any reverse
>>>>>>experiences… I think he would have liked to be
>in
>>>>>>your place at the park. How old were you when it
>>>>>>happened? Was your cousin's friend three years
>>older
>>>>>>than you as your cousin?
>>>>>>I guess you looked carefully... lol... I would
>have
>>>>>>looked carefully in the situation with three
>>guys…
>>>>>>lol…
>>>>>>How did your cousin's friend react or what did she
>>>>say
>>>>>>when your aunt pulled down her pants?
>>>>>
>>>>>I was about 9. Hadn't started puberty but right on
>>>the
>>>>>cusp. I had seen my sisters vagina when we were
>very
>>>>>small so I knew what I was expecting but when my
>>aunt
>>>>>pulled her pants down and I saw the hair and lips I
>>>>>was pretty shocked. I was also fascinated as I
>>always
>>>>>wondered how girls peed. Did you ever see boys pee?
>>>>>
>>>>>My cousin was kind of incredulous when my aunt
>>>whipped
>>>>>down her pants and then when she finished she told
>>my
>>>>>cousin to go because we won't have another bathroom
>>>>>for several hours. That's when she objected to me
>>>>>being there and my aunt chastised her. " it's a
>>>little
>>>>>boy and your cousin he doesn't care!". Oh how wrong
>>>>>she was lol. Her friend after just shrugged and
>>>pulled
>>>>>down her pants as well so I got to see all 3!
>>>>>
>>>>>Both were the same age in school together.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I totally understand. I was shocked too the first
>>time
>>>>I saw my brother (and then my cousin) with pubic
>>hair,
>>>>even though it wasn't the first time I'd ever seen
>>>>their penises.
>>>>Did her friend have pubic hair, too?
>>>>
>>>>Yes, I saw my brother pee and my friend's brother
>>too.
>>>>Fascinating... very different from how I used to do
>>>>it; they were standing...
>>>
>>>How did you see them? Outside or in?
>>>
>>>Both the girls had the beginning of pubic hair
>growth.
>>>My cousin had much darker hair.
>>
>>
>>My friend's brother at his house. My friend and I had
>>finished our homework and went to her room to play. In
>>the hallway, we passed the bathroom where her brother
>>was peeing with the door partially open, probably
>>because he was in a hurry or because he was used to it
>>and hadn't considered my presence that day. My friend
>>said, "Let's go," and we went into the bathroom. He
>>protested, saying I could see him, but my friend told
>>him we needed to wash our hands because we had to eat
>>our snack (a lie... lol...). He was halfway through
>>and couldn't stop himself from peeing and hiding his
>>penis in his underwear. So all he could do was finish
>>his business while his sister and I watched from less
>>than a meter away. OMG! How exciting.
>>
>>My brother twice. Once at our house and once at the
>>river. At the river he was probably 9 or 10 years old,
>>while at our house he was older, I'd say 11 or 12.
>>
>>At 12, I also already had pubic hair. Not like a fully
>>grown girl, obviously, but I already had some on my
>>pubic area, a nice tuft, but not yet on my lips. Very
>>dark, black, like my brother's. He and I have black
>>hair (on our heads), and the hair down there is black
>>too. My male cousin on the other hand has light brown,
>>almost blonde hair.
>
>Very daring of you to walk right in lol. I have many
>experiences where girls watched me pee in my childhood.
Actually, I just followed my classmate... It was her idea... I would never have done it on my own (even though I would have liked to, but I wouldn't have had the courage to do it)
Wow, Dave... now I'm really curious...
Would you like to share some of these experiences?
If you'd like, we can chat (www.chatcrypt.com or trillian)... or we can continue here... whatever you prefer.
Date Posted:13:34:51 11/16/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 107.147.197.99
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, I have managed to use both my
>>>>>first
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>middle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name on this forum. I will probably
>>>>>stick
>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Burton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or Burt going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>After finding this forum and posting
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>tomboy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thread, I started thinking about
>>>>similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>situations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>might have experienced or heard
>>about.
>>>>>>>This
>>>>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>told to me by my wife years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When she was 9 or 10, she was across
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>street
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing at a friend's house a girl
>of
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>age.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The family was beginning the packing
>>>>>>>>process
>>>>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>trip and the mom was scurrying about
>>>>>>>making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>preparations. The two girls were
>>>>>>engrossed
>>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing Barbies. After a time, her
>>>>>friend
>>>>>>>>>>>asked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wanted a popsicle. They then went
>>>>>>looking
>>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl's mother, hearing her voice
>>>coming
>>>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brothers room who was 14 or 15 at
>the
>>>>>>>time.
>>>>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wandered in to the room to find the
>>>>>>mother
>>>>>>>>>>>>>having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>son try on the previous years
>>>swimsuits
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>still fit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The boy who was naked at the time,
>>>>>>>>exclaimed
>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mother that the girls should leave.
>>>His
>>>>>>>>>>>>mother's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. " oh, they are just little girls,
>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>matter." The boy had to continue
>>>trying
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bathing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suits at the mothers insistence
>while
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stood there begging for popsicles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I thought about that and remembered
>>>>>being
>>>>>>>>>>told
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>same thing by my mother about my
>>>sister
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So, my question is as a boy or young
>>>>>man,
>>>>>>>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ever told this? Or for you ladies,
>>>were
>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lucky little girls who were "far to
>>>>>>young"
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>understand what you were seeing
>(lol)
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stick around?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The "don't be silly, she's just a
>>>little
>>>>>>>>>girl"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>comment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brings to mind various experiences I
>>>had
>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>child.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Both with my brother (who is three
>>>years
>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>me) and with my male cousin, who is
>>>four
>>>>>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than me, as well as with my
>>classmate's
>>>>>>>>>>brother
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>years older than us). They were both
>>>>very
>>>>>>>>shy
>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ashamed and complained to my mother
>>and
>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>aunt,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>their answer was always "don't be
>>>silly,
>>>>>>>>>she's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>little girl".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And while this was true when I was 5
>>or
>>>>6
>>>>>>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>old,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and I have very vague memories of
>>those
>>>>>>>>>>>episodes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother and cousin recalled them
>years
>>>>>>>>later,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>evening at dinner, all three of us
>>with
>>>>>>our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>respective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spouses, we talked about childhood
>>>>>>>>>nudity…),
>>>>>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other hand, I do have very clear
>>>>memories
>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was 9 or 10 or 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I assure you, the phrase "don't be
>>>>silly,
>>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just little girls, they don't notice
>>>>>these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>things"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not true! We notice them! At least
>>>after
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>7/8…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This post could also be under "The
>>>>Double
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Standard"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but I published it here because this
>>>>>>>>sentence
>>>>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>remained imprinted in my mind (and
>>>>>>>>especially
>>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>minds of my brother and cousin…
>>>lol…
>>>>>>).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Anna i for one would love to hear the
>>>>>>>details
>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you saw them nude. Under what
>>>>>circumstances
>>>>>>>>>did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>occur?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nothing particularly different from
>what
>>>>>>>>you've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>already partially described. But for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>9-11-year-old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl, it was great.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I saw my brother naked a few times
>>during
>>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>>>bath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his annual physical (as you said), or
>>two
>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>times while he was being spanked, and
>>>once
>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>river.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin while he was changing after
>>his
>>>>>>>bath
>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was at his house, and once
>>(unfortunately
>>>>>>>only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>once...) during his annual physical,
>and
>>>>in
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>river,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the same time as my brother.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My sister's brother a few times when I
>>>was
>>>>>>>>>doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>homework at his house (he changed after
>>>>>>>>playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>soccer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to go to take a bath).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did you have a favorite boy to see among
>>>>the
>>>>>>>3?
>>>>>>>>>>>How
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>did the physicals go? Did they have to
>>>face
>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>drop their pants one i did? Were you
>>>mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>interested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to see their penises or did other areas
>>>>>>>>interest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did your friend and you discuss seeing
>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>brother?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin, because he was the oldest (I
>>>>think
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>crush on him as a child).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The annual physical were, I think,
>similar
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>They were in their underwear for the
>first
>>>>>>>part,
>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>then they had to lower them for the
>>>>>testicular
>>>>>>>>>>exam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for a hernia (they explained it to me
>>>later;
>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>time, I didn't know why the pediatrician
>>>did
>>>>>>>>>>that).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The last time with my brother I was 11
>and
>>>>he
>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>14,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with my cousin I was 9 and he was 13.
>With
>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>female
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friend we were 9 so he was 11. My brother
>>>>had
>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pubic hair last time and begged our mom
>>not
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>let
>>>>>>>>>>>>me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>watch or to wait outside... but she
>>>>responded
>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>usual phrase "Don't be silly, she's your
>>>>>>sister
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>little girl!" and the pediatrician
>>>continued
>>>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin also had some pubic hair at 13,
>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>less than my brother, but it was the
>first
>>>>>>time
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>saw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>him with hair, the other times he was
>>>>>>>hairless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I was also interested in their butts, but
>>I
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>attracted to their penises (I must
>admit).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, she and I talked about this several
>>>>>>times.
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>envied her because I only saw my brother
>>or
>>>>>>>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>naked occasionally, while she told me it
>>>>>>>>happened
>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>her every day... It wasn't much different
>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother at the same age, but it was a new
>>>>>>>penis,
>>>>>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was interesting... lol...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the details Anna. I don't blame
>>>>you
>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>being interested. I can remember every
>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>parts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that I saw in childhood and loved it.
>What
>>>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>>>some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of the differences in their penises?
>>>Anything
>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>noted?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>My friend's brother's was the most
>childish,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>obviously. He hadn't even started puberty
>>yet
>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>>11,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>so he was hairless, and his balls didn't
>sag
>>>>>>>much.
>>>>>>>>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>>>>>penis, however, was nice and fairly long.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>My brother's was almost adult-sized, at
>>least
>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>memory. Thick and long, with lots of dark
>>>>hair.
>>>>>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>>>>>balls were quite large, filling his sac
>well
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>sagging quite a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin's was almost as long as my
>>>>brother's,
>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>less thick. His balls were slightly
>smaller,
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>only had pubic hair at the base of his
>penis
>>>>on
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>left and right, not in the middle, and the
>>>>hair
>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>shorter. He had just entered puberty. His
>>>hair
>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>light brown.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Circumcision isn't very common here in
>>Italy,
>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>three were uncircumcised, with intact
>>>>>foreskins.
>>>>>>>>>>>When,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>at the end of the visit, the pediatrician
>>>>>>checked
>>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the foreskin was loose and that there was
>no
>>>>>>>>>redness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>at the tip, they both had the beginnings of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>erections... wow! omg!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>On the way back, they were embarrassed in
>>the
>>>>>>car
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>remained silent the whole time...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Did you get to see them retracted? My cousin
>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>>>>Germany was visiting and saw my penis. She
>>>kept
>>>>>>>>>>saying
>>>>>>>>>>>>how she loved are could see the end of it
>>(her
>>>>>>>>>words)
>>>>>>>>>>>>all the time!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>During the visit, I saw the pediatrician
>>>>>>completely
>>>>>>>>>>>retract their foreskins and the pink tip
>>>>>emerge...
>>>>>>>>>>>lol...
>>>>>>>>>>>Once we got home, I asked both my brother and
>>>>>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>>>>if they'd let me see "the magic" again... I
>>>>>>>actually
>>>>>>>>>>>used that word...
>>>>>>>>>>>My little slit didn't do any of that; I was
>>>>>>jealous
>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>their male parts, which were elongating,
>>>>>>hardening,
>>>>>>>>>>>and with the tip disappearing and
>appearing...
>>>>>>what
>>>>>>>>>an
>>>>>>>>>>>innocent, silly girl...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Lol that's great. What was their reaction
>when
>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>asked?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>They immediately replied, "Absolutely not! How
>>>>>>>>>embarrassing!"
>>>>>>>>>Then, after much persistence, they said yes,
>but
>>>I
>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>to show my kitty (something I would never have
>>>>>>>>>done...).
>>>>>>>>>Finally, after much persuasion, I convinced
>>them,
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>they both showed me their covered penises, then
>>>>>>>slowly
>>>>>>>>>pulled back the foreskin, exposing the tip
>>>>>>>completely.
>>>>>>>>>They remained like that for a few seconds, just
>>>>>long
>>>>>>>>>enough to show me a good look, then they put it
>>>>>back
>>>>>>>>>and put on their underwear.
>>>>>>>>>WOW!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>That's a great experience for a young girl. One
>>on
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>reverse standard. As a young boy, my aunt
>cousin
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>her friend would take me to the park. If they
>had
>>>>to
>>>>>>>>use the bathroom, they'd go into the women's
>>>room.
>>>>>>>>They would ask me if I had to use it. This was
>a
>>>>>>>>single stall bathroom. We'd all go in at once to
>>>>use
>>>>>>>>it. My cousin a girl 3 years older, objected to
>>>me
>>>>>>>>being in there but they used the same phrase "
>>>he's
>>>>>>>>just a boy!". The friend looked hesitant as well
>>>>but
>>>>>>>>the aunt rolled her eyes and dropped her pants.
>I
>>>>>got
>>>>>>>>to watch 3 ladies pee! A real special thing for
>a
>>>>>>>>young boy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Dave, you're right, it was a great experience for
>>a
>>>>>>>10-11 year old. It remained in my mind after so
>>>many
>>>>>>>years as if it happened yesterday…
>>>>>>>I didn't think they'd finally give in and let me
>>>see
>>>>>>>it. But they did it! OMG!
>>>>>>>But I was so eager to see him again, more time
>and
>>>>>>>more closely after the first time at the
>>>>>pediatrician,
>>>>>>>that I think I was a little pushy and just
>>>exhausted
>>>>>>>them… lol…
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My brother, poor thing, has never had any reverse
>>>>>>>experiences… I think he would have liked to be
>>in
>>>>>>>your place at the park. How old were you when it
>>>>>>>happened? Was your cousin's friend three years
>>>older
>>>>>>>than you as your cousin?
>>>>>>>I guess you looked carefully... lol... I would
>>have
>>>>>>>looked carefully in the situation with three
>>>guys…
>>>>>>>lol…
>>>>>>>How did your cousin's friend react or what did
>she
>>>>>say
>>>>>>>when your aunt pulled down her pants?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I was about 9. Hadn't started puberty but right on
>>>>the
>>>>>>cusp. I had seen my sisters vagina when we were
>>very
>>>>>>small so I knew what I was expecting but when my
>>>aunt
>>>>>>pulled her pants down and I saw the hair and lips
>I
>>>>>>was pretty shocked. I was also fascinated as I
>>>always
>>>>>>wondered how girls peed. Did you ever see boys
>pee?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My cousin was kind of incredulous when my aunt
>>>>whipped
>>>>>>down her pants and then when she finished she told
>>>my
>>>>>>cousin to go because we won't have another
>bathroom
>>>>>>for several hours. That's when she objected to me
>>>>>>being there and my aunt chastised her. " it's a
>>>>little
>>>>>>boy and your cousin he doesn't care!". Oh how
>wrong
>>>>>>she was lol. Her friend after just shrugged and
>>>>pulled
>>>>>>down her pants as well so I got to see all 3!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Both were the same age in school together.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>I totally understand. I was shocked too the first
>>>time
>>>>>I saw my brother (and then my cousin) with pubic
>>>hair,
>>>>>even though it wasn't the first time I'd ever seen
>>>>>their penises.
>>>>>Did her friend have pubic hair, too?
>>>>>
>>>>>Yes, I saw my brother pee and my friend's brother
>>>too.
>>>>>Fascinating... very different from how I used to do
>>>>>it; they were standing...
>>>>
>>>>How did you see them? Outside or in?
>>>>
>>>>Both the girls had the beginning of pubic hair
>>growth.
>>>>My cousin had much darker hair.
>>>
>>>
>>>My friend's brother at his house. My friend and I had
>>>finished our homework and went to her room to play.
>In
>>>the hallway, we passed the bathroom where her brother
>>>was peeing with the door partially open, probably
>>>because he was in a hurry or because he was used to
>it
>>>and hadn't considered my presence that day. My friend
>>>said, "Let's go," and we went into the bathroom. He
>>>protested, saying I could see him, but my friend told
>>>him we needed to wash our hands because we had to eat
>>>our snack (a lie... lol...). He was halfway through
>>>and couldn't stop himself from peeing and hiding his
>>>penis in his underwear. So all he could do was finish
>>>his business while his sister and I watched from less
>>>than a meter away. OMG! How exciting.
>>>
>>>My brother twice. Once at our house and once at the
>>>river. At the river he was probably 9 or 10 years
>old,
>>>while at our house he was older, I'd say 11 or 12.
>>>
>>>At 12, I also already had pubic hair. Not like a
>fully
>>>grown girl, obviously, but I already had some on my
>>>pubic area, a nice tuft, but not yet on my lips. Very
>>>dark, black, like my brother's. He and I have black
>>>hair (on our heads), and the hair down there is black
>>>too. My male cousin on the other hand has light
>brown,
>>>almost blonde hair.
>>
>>Very daring of you to walk right in lol. I have many
>>experiences where girls watched me pee in my
>childhood.
>
>
>Actually, I just followed my classmate... It was her
>idea... I would never have done it on my own (even
>though I would have liked to, but I wouldn't have had
>the courage to do it)
>
>Wow, Dave... now I'm really curious...
>Would you like to share some of these experiences?
>If you'd like, we can chat (www.chatcrypt.com or
>trillian)... or we can continue here... whatever you
>prefer.
Date Posted:13:40:26 11/16/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 149.36.51.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, I have managed to use both my
>>>>>>first
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>middle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name on this forum. I will probably
>>>>>>stick
>>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Burton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or Burt going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>After finding this forum and
>posting
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>tomboy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thread, I started thinking about
>>>>>similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>situations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>might have experienced or heard
>>>about.
>>>>>>>>This
>>>>>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>told to me by my wife years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When she was 9 or 10, she was
>across
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>street
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing at a friend's house a girl
>>of
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>age.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The family was beginning the
>packing
>>>>>>>>>process
>>>>>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>trip and the mom was scurrying
>about
>>>>>>>>making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>preparations. The two girls were
>>>>>>>engrossed
>>>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing Barbies. After a time, her
>>>>>>friend
>>>>>>>>>>>>asked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wanted a popsicle. They then went
>>>>>>>looking
>>>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl's mother, hearing her voice
>>>>coming
>>>>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brothers room who was 14 or 15 at
>>the
>>>>>>>>time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wandered in to the room to find the
>>>>>>>mother
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>son try on the previous years
>>>>swimsuits
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>still fit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The boy who was naked at the time,
>>>>>>>>>exclaimed
>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mother that the girls should leave.
>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>>>>>mother's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. " oh, they are just little
>girls,
>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>matter." The boy had to continue
>>>>trying
>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bathing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suits at the mothers insistence
>>while
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stood there begging for popsicles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I thought about that and remembered
>>>>>>being
>>>>>>>>>>>told
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>same thing by my mother about my
>>>>sister
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So, my question is as a boy or
>young
>>>>>>man,
>>>>>>>>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ever told this? Or for you ladies,
>>>>were
>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lucky little girls who were "far to
>>>>>>>young"
>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>understand what you were seeing
>>(lol)
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stick around?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The "don't be silly, she's just a
>>>>little
>>>>>>>>>>girl"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>comment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brings to mind various experiences I
>>>>had
>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>child.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Both with my brother (who is three
>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>me) and with my male cousin, who is
>>>>four
>>>>>>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than me, as well as with my
>>>classmate's
>>>>>>>>>>>brother
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>years older than us). They were both
>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>shy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ashamed and complained to my mother
>>>and
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>aunt,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>their answer was always "don't be
>>>>silly,
>>>>>>>>>>she's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>little girl".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And while this was true when I was 5
>>>or
>>>>>6
>>>>>>>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>old,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and I have very vague memories of
>>>those
>>>>>>>>>>>>episodes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother and cousin recalled them
>>years
>>>>>>>>>later,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>evening at dinner, all three of us
>>>with
>>>>>>>our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>respective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spouses, we talked about childhood
>>>>>>>>>>nudity…),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other hand, I do have very clear
>>>>>memories
>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was 9 or 10 or 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I assure you, the phrase "don't be
>>>>>silly,
>>>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just little girls, they don't notice
>>>>>>these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>things"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not true! We notice them! At least
>>>>after
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>7/8…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This post could also be under "The
>>>>>Double
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Standard"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but I published it here because this
>>>>>>>>>sentence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>remained imprinted in my mind (and
>>>>>>>>>especially
>>>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>minds of my brother and cousin…
>>>>lol…
>>>>>>>).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Anna i for one would love to hear the
>>>>>>>>details
>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you saw them nude. Under what
>>>>>>circumstances
>>>>>>>>>>did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>occur?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nothing particularly different from
>>what
>>>>>>>>>you've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>already partially described. But for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>9-11-year-old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl, it was great.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I saw my brother naked a few times
>>>during
>>>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>>>>bath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his annual physical (as you said), or
>>>two
>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>>three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>times while he was being spanked, and
>>>>once
>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>river.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin while he was changing after
>>>his
>>>>>>>>bath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was at his house, and once
>>>(unfortunately
>>>>>>>>only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>once...) during his annual physical,
>>and
>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>river,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the same time as my brother.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My sister's brother a few times when I
>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>homework at his house (he changed
>after
>>>>>>>>>playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>soccer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to go to take a bath).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did you have a favorite boy to see
>among
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>3?
>>>>>>>>>>>>How
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>did the physicals go? Did they have to
>>>>face
>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>drop their pants one i did? Were you
>>>>mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>interested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to see their penises or did other areas
>>>>>>>>>interest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did your friend and you discuss seeing
>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>brother?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin, because he was the oldest (I
>>>>>think
>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>crush on him as a child).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The annual physical were, I think,
>>similar
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>They were in their underwear for the
>>first
>>>>>>>>part,
>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>then they had to lower them for the
>>>>>>testicular
>>>>>>>>>>>exam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for a hernia (they explained it to me
>>>>later;
>>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>time, I didn't know why the pediatrician
>>>>did
>>>>>>>>>>>that).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The last time with my brother I was 11
>>and
>>>>>he
>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>14,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with my cousin I was 9 and he was 13.
>>With
>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>female
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friend we were 9 so he was 11. My
>brother
>>>>>had
>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pubic hair last time and begged our mom
>>>not
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>let
>>>>>>>>>>>>>me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>watch or to wait outside... but she
>>>>>responded
>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>usual phrase "Don't be silly, she's your
>>>>>>>sister
>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>little girl!" and the pediatrician
>>>>continued
>>>>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin also had some pubic hair at
>13,
>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>less than my brother, but it was the
>>first
>>>>>>>time
>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>saw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>him with hair, the other times he was
>>>>>>>>hairless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I was also interested in their butts,
>but
>>>I
>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>attracted to their penises (I must
>>admit).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, she and I talked about this several
>>>>>>>times.
>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>envied her because I only saw my brother
>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>naked occasionally, while she told me it
>>>>>>>>>happened
>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>her every day... It wasn't much
>different
>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother at the same age, but it was a
>new
>>>>>>>>penis,
>>>>>>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was interesting... lol...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the details Anna. I don't
>blame
>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>being interested. I can remember every
>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>parts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that I saw in childhood and loved it.
>>What
>>>>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>>>>some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of the differences in their penises?
>>>>Anything
>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>noted?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My friend's brother's was the most
>>childish,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>obviously. He hadn't even started puberty
>>>yet
>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>>>11,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>so he was hairless, and his balls didn't
>>sag
>>>>>>>>much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>penis, however, was nice and fairly long.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My brother's was almost adult-sized, at
>>>least
>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>memory. Thick and long, with lots of dark
>>>>>hair.
>>>>>>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>balls were quite large, filling his sac
>>well
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sagging quite a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin's was almost as long as my
>>>>>brother's,
>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>less thick. His balls were slightly
>>smaller,
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>only had pubic hair at the base of his
>>penis
>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>left and right, not in the middle, and the
>>>>>hair
>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shorter. He had just entered puberty. His
>>>>hair
>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>light brown.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Circumcision isn't very common here in
>>>Italy,
>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>three were uncircumcised, with intact
>>>>>>foreskins.
>>>>>>>>>>>>When,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>at the end of the visit, the pediatrician
>>>>>>>checked
>>>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the foreskin was loose and that there was
>>no
>>>>>>>>>>redness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>at the tip, they both had the beginnings
>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>erections... wow! omg!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On the way back, they were embarrassed in
>>>the
>>>>>>>car
>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>remained silent the whole time...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did you get to see them retracted? My
>cousin
>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Germany was visiting and saw my penis. She
>>>>kept
>>>>>>>>>>>saying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>how she loved are could see the end of it
>>>(her
>>>>>>>>>>words)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>all the time!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>During the visit, I saw the pediatrician
>>>>>>>completely
>>>>>>>>>>>>retract their foreskins and the pink tip
>>>>>>emerge...
>>>>>>>>>>>>lol...
>>>>>>>>>>>>Once we got home, I asked both my brother
>and
>>>>>>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>>>>>if they'd let me see "the magic" again... I
>>>>>>>>actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>used that word...
>>>>>>>>>>>>My little slit didn't do any of that; I was
>>>>>>>jealous
>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>their male parts, which were elongating,
>>>>>>>hardening,
>>>>>>>>>>>>and with the tip disappearing and
>>appearing...
>>>>>>>what
>>>>>>>>>>an
>>>>>>>>>>>>innocent, silly girl...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Lol that's great. What was their reaction
>>when
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>asked?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>They immediately replied, "Absolutely not! How
>>>>>>>>>>embarrassing!"
>>>>>>>>>>Then, after much persistence, they said yes,
>>but
>>>>I
>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>to show my kitty (something I would never have
>>>>>>>>>>done...).
>>>>>>>>>>Finally, after much persuasion, I convinced
>>>them,
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>they both showed me their covered penises,
>then
>>>>>>>>slowly
>>>>>>>>>>pulled back the foreskin, exposing the tip
>>>>>>>>completely.
>>>>>>>>>>They remained like that for a few seconds,
>just
>>>>>>long
>>>>>>>>>>enough to show me a good look, then they put
>it
>>>>>>back
>>>>>>>>>>and put on their underwear.
>>>>>>>>>>WOW!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>That's a great experience for a young girl. One
>>>on
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>reverse standard. As a young boy, my aunt
>>cousin
>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>her friend would take me to the park. If they
>>had
>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>use the bathroom, they'd go into the women's
>>>>room.
>>>>>>>>>They would ask me if I had to use it. This was
>>a
>>>>>>>>>single stall bathroom. We'd all go in at once
>to
>>>>>use
>>>>>>>>>it. My cousin a girl 3 years older, objected
>to
>>>>me
>>>>>>>>>being in there but they used the same phrase "
>>>>he's
>>>>>>>>>just a boy!". The friend looked hesitant as
>well
>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>the aunt rolled her eyes and dropped her pants.
>>I
>>>>>>got
>>>>>>>>>to watch 3 ladies pee! A real special thing for
>>a
>>>>>>>>>young boy.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Dave, you're right, it was a great experience
>for
>>>a
>>>>>>>>10-11 year old. It remained in my mind after so
>>>>many
>>>>>>>>years as if it happened yesterday…
>>>>>>>>I didn't think they'd finally give in and let me
>>>>see
>>>>>>>>it. But they did it! OMG!
>>>>>>>>But I was so eager to see him again, more time
>>and
>>>>>>>>more closely after the first time at the
>>>>>>pediatrician,
>>>>>>>>that I think I was a little pushy and just
>>>>exhausted
>>>>>>>>them… lol…
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My brother, poor thing, has never had any
>reverse
>>>>>>>>experiences… I think he would have liked to be
>>>in
>>>>>>>>your place at the park. How old were you when it
>>>>>>>>happened? Was your cousin's friend three years
>>>>older
>>>>>>>>than you as your cousin?
>>>>>>>>I guess you looked carefully... lol... I would
>>>have
>>>>>>>>looked carefully in the situation with three
>>>>guys…
>>>>>>>>lol…
>>>>>>>>How did your cousin's friend react or what did
>>she
>>>>>>say
>>>>>>>>when your aunt pulled down her pants?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I was about 9. Hadn't started puberty but right
>on
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>cusp. I had seen my sisters vagina when we were
>>>very
>>>>>>>small so I knew what I was expecting but when my
>>>>aunt
>>>>>>>pulled her pants down and I saw the hair and lips
>>I
>>>>>>>was pretty shocked. I was also fascinated as I
>>>>always
>>>>>>>wondered how girls peed. Did you ever see boys
>>pee?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>My cousin was kind of incredulous when my aunt
>>>>>whipped
>>>>>>>down her pants and then when she finished she
>told
>>>>my
>>>>>>>cousin to go because we won't have another
>>bathroom
>>>>>>>for several hours. That's when she objected to me
>>>>>>>being there and my aunt chastised her. " it's a
>>>>>little
>>>>>>>boy and your cousin he doesn't care!". Oh how
>>wrong
>>>>>>>she was lol. Her friend after just shrugged and
>>>>>pulled
>>>>>>>down her pants as well so I got to see all 3!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Both were the same age in school together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I totally understand. I was shocked too the first
>>>>time
>>>>>>I saw my brother (and then my cousin) with pubic
>>>>hair,
>>>>>>even though it wasn't the first time I'd ever seen
>>>>>>their penises.
>>>>>>Did her friend have pubic hair, too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes, I saw my brother pee and my friend's brother
>>>>too.
>>>>>>Fascinating... very different from how I used to
>do
>>>>>>it; they were standing...
>>>>>
>>>>>How did you see them? Outside or in?
>>>>>
>>>>>Both the girls had the beginning of pubic hair
>>>growth.
>>>>>My cousin had much darker hair.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>My friend's brother at his house. My friend and I
>had
>>>>finished our homework and went to her room to play.
>>In
>>>>the hallway, we passed the bathroom where her
>brother
>>>>was peeing with the door partially open, probably
>>>>because he was in a hurry or because he was used to
>>it
>>>>and hadn't considered my presence that day. My
>friend
>>>>said, "Let's go," and we went into the bathroom. He
>>>>protested, saying I could see him, but my friend
>told
>>>>him we needed to wash our hands because we had to
>eat
>>>>our snack (a lie... lol...). He was halfway through
>>>>and couldn't stop himself from peeing and hiding his
>>>>penis in his underwear. So all he could do was
>finish
>>>>his business while his sister and I watched from
>less
>>>>than a meter away. OMG! How exciting.
>>>>
>>>>My brother twice. Once at our house and once at the
>>>>river. At the river he was probably 9 or 10 years
>>old,
>>>>while at our house he was older, I'd say 11 or 12.
>>>>
>>>>At 12, I also already had pubic hair. Not like a
>>fully
>>>>grown girl, obviously, but I already had some on my
>>>>pubic area, a nice tuft, but not yet on my lips.
>Very
>>>>dark, black, like my brother's. He and I have black
>>>>hair (on our heads), and the hair down there is
>black
>>>>too. My male cousin on the other hand has light
>>brown,
>>>>almost blonde hair.
>>>
>>>Very daring of you to walk right in lol. I have many
>>>experiences where girls watched me pee in my
>>childhood.
>>
>>
>>Actually, I just followed my classmate... It was her
>>idea... I would never have done it on my own (even
>>though I would have liked to, but I wouldn't have had
>>the courage to do it)
>>
>>Wow, Dave... now I'm really curious...
>>Would you like to share some of these experiences?
>>If you'd like, we can chat (www.chatcrypt.com or
>>trillian)... or we can continue here... whatever you
>>prefer.
>
>Love to chat. What's the best way?
I was thinking about chat because I see we're monopolizing the post... it's almost just you and me writing.
If you have a Trillian account, we can use that. I have one.
Otherwise, www.chatcrypt.com doesn't require registration or installation on your PC. It's an online address; the chat is deleted as soon as it ends, and there's no history.
The only difference is that if you send messages in Trillian when the other person isn't online, they can read the message when they log in later. Not on www.chatcrypt.com. Both must be logged in at the time.
Date Posted:13:52:36 11/16/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 149.36.51.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, I have managed to use both
>my
>>>>>>>first
>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>middle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name on this forum. I will
>probably
>>>>>>>stick
>>>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Burton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or Burt going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>After finding this forum and
>>posting
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>tomboy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thread, I started thinking about
>>>>>>similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>situations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>might have experienced or heard
>>>>about.
>>>>>>>>>This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>told to me by my wife years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When she was 9 or 10, she was
>>across
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>street
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing at a friend's house a girl
>>>of
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>age.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The family was beginning the
>>packing
>>>>>>>>>>process
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>trip and the mom was scurrying
>>about
>>>>>>>>>making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>preparations. The two girls were
>>>>>>>>engrossed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing Barbies. After a time, her
>>>>>>>friend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>asked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wanted a popsicle. They then went
>>>>>>>>looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl's mother, hearing her voice
>>>>>coming
>>>>>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brothers room who was 14 or 15 at
>>>the
>>>>>>>>>time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wandered in to the room to find
>the
>>>>>>>>mother
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>son try on the previous years
>>>>>swimsuits
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>still fit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The boy who was naked at the time,
>>>>>>>>>>exclaimed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mother that the girls should
>leave.
>>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mother's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. " oh, they are just little
>>girls,
>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>matter." The boy had to continue
>>>>>trying
>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bathing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suits at the mothers insistence
>>>while
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stood there begging for popsicles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I thought about that and
>remembered
>>>>>>>being
>>>>>>>>>>>>told
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>same thing by my mother about my
>>>>>sister
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So, my question is as a boy or
>>young
>>>>>>>man,
>>>>>>>>>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ever told this? Or for you ladies,
>>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lucky little girls who were "far
>to
>>>>>>>>young"
>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>understand what you were seeing
>>>(lol)
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stick around?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The "don't be silly, she's just a
>>>>>little
>>>>>>>>>>>girl"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>comment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brings to mind various experiences
>I
>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>child.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Both with my brother (who is three
>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>me) and with my male cousin, who is
>>>>>four
>>>>>>>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than me, as well as with my
>>>>classmate's
>>>>>>>>>>>>brother
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>years older than us). They were
>both
>>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>shy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ashamed and complained to my mother
>>>>and
>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>aunt,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>their answer was always "don't be
>>>>>silly,
>>>>>>>>>>>she's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>little girl".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And while this was true when I was
>5
>>>>or
>>>>>>6
>>>>>>>>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>old,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and I have very vague memories of
>>>>those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>episodes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother and cousin recalled them
>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>later,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>evening at dinner, all three of us
>>>>with
>>>>>>>>our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>respective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spouses, we talked about childhood
>>>>>>>>>>>nudity…),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other hand, I do have very clear
>>>>>>memories
>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was 9 or 10 or 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I assure you, the phrase "don't be
>>>>>>silly,
>>>>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just little girls, they don't
>notice
>>>>>>>these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>things"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not true! We notice them! At least
>>>>>after
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>7/8…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This post could also be under "The
>>>>>>Double
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Standard"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but I published it here because
>this
>>>>>>>>>>sentence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>remained imprinted in my mind (and
>>>>>>>>>>especially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>minds of my brother and cousin…
>>>>>lol…
>>>>>>>>).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Anna i for one would love to hear
>the
>>>>>>>>>details
>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you saw them nude. Under what
>>>>>>>circumstances
>>>>>>>>>>>did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>occur?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nothing particularly different from
>>>what
>>>>>>>>>>you've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>already partially described. But for
>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>9-11-year-old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl, it was great.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I saw my brother naked a few times
>>>>during
>>>>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>bath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his annual physical (as you said), or
>>>>two
>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>times while he was being spanked, and
>>>>>once
>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>river.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin while he was changing after
>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>bath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was at his house, and once
>>>>(unfortunately
>>>>>>>>>only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>once...) during his annual physical,
>>>and
>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>river,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the same time as my brother.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My sister's brother a few times when
>I
>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>homework at his house (he changed
>>after
>>>>>>>>>>playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>soccer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to go to take a bath).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did you have a favorite boy to see
>>among
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>3?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>How
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>did the physicals go? Did they have to
>>>>>face
>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>drop their pants one i did? Were you
>>>>>mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>interested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to see their penises or did other
>areas
>>>>>>>>>>interest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did your friend and you discuss seeing
>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin, because he was the oldest (I
>>>>>>think
>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>crush on him as a child).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The annual physical were, I think,
>>>similar
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>They were in their underwear for the
>>>first
>>>>>>>>>part,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>then they had to lower them for the
>>>>>>>testicular
>>>>>>>>>>>>exam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for a hernia (they explained it to me
>>>>>later;
>>>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>time, I didn't know why the
>pediatrician
>>>>>did
>>>>>>>>>>>>that).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The last time with my brother I was 11
>>>and
>>>>>>he
>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>14,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with my cousin I was 9 and he was 13.
>>>With
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>female
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friend we were 9 so he was 11. My
>>brother
>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pubic hair last time and begged our mom
>>>>not
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>let
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>watch or to wait outside... but she
>>>>>>responded
>>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>usual phrase "Don't be silly, she's
>your
>>>>>>>>sister
>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>little girl!" and the pediatrician
>>>>>continued
>>>>>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin also had some pubic hair at
>>13,
>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>less than my brother, but it was the
>>>first
>>>>>>>>time
>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>saw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>him with hair, the other times he was
>>>>>>>>>hairless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I was also interested in their butts,
>>but
>>>>I
>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>attracted to their penises (I must
>>>admit).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, she and I talked about this
>several
>>>>>>>>times.
>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>envied her because I only saw my
>brother
>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>naked occasionally, while she told me
>it
>>>>>>>>>>happened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>her every day... It wasn't much
>>different
>>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother at the same age, but it was a
>>new
>>>>>>>>>penis,
>>>>>>>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was interesting... lol...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the details Anna. I don't
>>blame
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>being interested. I can remember every
>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>parts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that I saw in childhood and loved it.
>>>What
>>>>>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of the differences in their penises?
>>>>>Anything
>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>noted?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My friend's brother's was the most
>>>childish,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>obviously. He hadn't even started puberty
>>>>yet
>>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>>>>11,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>so he was hairless, and his balls didn't
>>>sag
>>>>>>>>>much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>penis, however, was nice and fairly long.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My brother's was almost adult-sized, at
>>>>least
>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>memory. Thick and long, with lots of dark
>>>>>>hair.
>>>>>>>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>balls were quite large, filling his sac
>>>well
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sagging quite a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin's was almost as long as my
>>>>>>brother's,
>>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>less thick. His balls were slightly
>>>smaller,
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>only had pubic hair at the base of his
>>>penis
>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>left and right, not in the middle, and
>the
>>>>>>hair
>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shorter. He had just entered puberty. His
>>>>>hair
>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>light brown.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Circumcision isn't very common here in
>>>>Italy,
>>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>three were uncircumcised, with intact
>>>>>>>foreskins.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>When,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>at the end of the visit, the pediatrician
>>>>>>>>checked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the foreskin was loose and that there was
>>>no
>>>>>>>>>>>redness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>at the tip, they both had the beginnings
>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>erections... wow! omg!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On the way back, they were embarrassed in
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>car
>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>remained silent the whole time...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did you get to see them retracted? My
>>cousin
>>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Germany was visiting and saw my penis. She
>>>>>kept
>>>>>>>>>>>>saying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>how she loved are could see the end of it
>>>>(her
>>>>>>>>>>>words)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all the time!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>During the visit, I saw the pediatrician
>>>>>>>>completely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>retract their foreskins and the pink tip
>>>>>>>emerge...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>lol...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Once we got home, I asked both my brother
>>and
>>>>>>>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>if they'd let me see "the magic" again... I
>>>>>>>>>actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>used that word...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>My little slit didn't do any of that; I was
>>>>>>>>jealous
>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>their male parts, which were elongating,
>>>>>>>>hardening,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>and with the tip disappearing and
>>>appearing...
>>>>>>>>what
>>>>>>>>>>>an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>innocent, silly girl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Lol that's great. What was their reaction
>>>when
>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>asked?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>They immediately replied, "Absolutely not!
>How
>>>>>>>>>>>embarrassing!"
>>>>>>>>>>>Then, after much persistence, they said yes,
>>>but
>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>>to show my kitty (something I would never
>have
>>>>>>>>>>>done...).
>>>>>>>>>>>Finally, after much persuasion, I convinced
>>>>them,
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>they both showed me their covered penises,
>>then
>>>>>>>>>slowly
>>>>>>>>>>>pulled back the foreskin, exposing the tip
>>>>>>>>>completely.
>>>>>>>>>>>They remained like that for a few seconds,
>>just
>>>>>>>long
>>>>>>>>>>>enough to show me a good look, then they put
>>it
>>>>>>>back
>>>>>>>>>>>and put on their underwear.
>>>>>>>>>>>WOW!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>That's a great experience for a young girl.
>One
>>>>on
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>reverse standard. As a young boy, my aunt
>>>cousin
>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>her friend would take me to the park. If they
>>>had
>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>use the bathroom, they'd go into the women's
>>>>>room.
>>>>>>>>>>They would ask me if I had to use it. This
>was
>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>single stall bathroom. We'd all go in at once
>>to
>>>>>>use
>>>>>>>>>>it. My cousin a girl 3 years older, objected
>>to
>>>>>me
>>>>>>>>>>being in there but they used the same phrase "
>>>>>he's
>>>>>>>>>>just a boy!". The friend looked hesitant as
>>well
>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>the aunt rolled her eyes and dropped her
>pants.
>>>I
>>>>>>>got
>>>>>>>>>>to watch 3 ladies pee! A real special thing
>for
>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>young boy.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Dave, you're right, it was a great experience
>>for
>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>10-11 year old. It remained in my mind after so
>>>>>many
>>>>>>>>>years as if it happened yesterday…
>>>>>>>>>I didn't think they'd finally give in and let
>me
>>>>>see
>>>>>>>>>it. But they did it! OMG!
>>>>>>>>>But I was so eager to see him again, more time
>>>and
>>>>>>>>>more closely after the first time at the
>>>>>>>pediatrician,
>>>>>>>>>that I think I was a little pushy and just
>>>>>exhausted
>>>>>>>>>them… lol…
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My brother, poor thing, has never had any
>>reverse
>>>>>>>>>experiences… I think he would have liked to
>be
>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>your place at the park. How old were you when
>it
>>>>>>>>>happened? Was your cousin's friend three years
>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>than you as your cousin?
>>>>>>>>>I guess you looked carefully... lol... I would
>>>>have
>>>>>>>>>looked carefully in the situation with three
>>>>>guys…
>>>>>>>>>lol…
>>>>>>>>>How did your cousin's friend react or what did
>>>she
>>>>>>>say
>>>>>>>>>when your aunt pulled down her pants?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I was about 9. Hadn't started puberty but right
>>on
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>cusp. I had seen my sisters vagina when we were
>>>>very
>>>>>>>>small so I knew what I was expecting but when my
>>>>>aunt
>>>>>>>>pulled her pants down and I saw the hair and
>lips
>>>I
>>>>>>>>was pretty shocked. I was also fascinated as I
>>>>>always
>>>>>>>>wondered how girls peed. Did you ever see boys
>>>pee?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My cousin was kind of incredulous when my aunt
>>>>>>whipped
>>>>>>>>down her pants and then when she finished she
>>told
>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>cousin to go because we won't have another
>>>bathroom
>>>>>>>>for several hours. That's when she objected to
>me
>>>>>>>>being there and my aunt chastised her. " it's a
>>>>>>little
>>>>>>>>boy and your cousin he doesn't care!". Oh how
>>>wrong
>>>>>>>>she was lol. Her friend after just shrugged and
>>>>>>pulled
>>>>>>>>down her pants as well so I got to see all 3!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Both were the same age in school together.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I totally understand. I was shocked too the first
>>>>>time
>>>>>>>I saw my brother (and then my cousin) with pubic
>>>>>hair,
>>>>>>>even though it wasn't the first time I'd ever
>seen
>>>>>>>their penises.
>>>>>>>Did her friend have pubic hair, too?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Yes, I saw my brother pee and my friend's brother
>>>>>too.
>>>>>>>Fascinating... very different from how I used to
>>do
>>>>>>>it; they were standing...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How did you see them? Outside or in?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Both the girls had the beginning of pubic hair
>>>>growth.
>>>>>>My cousin had much darker hair.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>My friend's brother at his house. My friend and I
>>had
>>>>>finished our homework and went to her room to play.
>>>In
>>>>>the hallway, we passed the bathroom where her
>>brother
>>>>>was peeing with the door partially open, probably
>>>>>because he was in a hurry or because he was used to
>>>it
>>>>>and hadn't considered my presence that day. My
>>friend
>>>>>said, "Let's go," and we went into the bathroom. He
>>>>>protested, saying I could see him, but my friend
>>told
>>>>>him we needed to wash our hands because we had to
>>eat
>>>>>our snack (a lie... lol...). He was halfway through
>>>>>and couldn't stop himself from peeing and hiding
>his
>>>>>penis in his underwear. So all he could do was
>>finish
>>>>>his business while his sister and I watched from
>>less
>>>>>than a meter away. OMG! How exciting.
>>>>>
>>>>>My brother twice. Once at our house and once at the
>>>>>river. At the river he was probably 9 or 10 years
>>>old,
>>>>>while at our house he was older, I'd say 11 or 12.
>>>>>
>>>>>At 12, I also already had pubic hair. Not like a
>>>fully
>>>>>grown girl, obviously, but I already had some on my
>>>>>pubic area, a nice tuft, but not yet on my lips.
>>Very
>>>>>dark, black, like my brother's. He and I have black
>>>>>hair (on our heads), and the hair down there is
>>black
>>>>>too. My male cousin on the other hand has light
>>>brown,
>>>>>almost blonde hair.
>>>>
>>>>Very daring of you to walk right in lol. I have many
>>>>experiences where girls watched me pee in my
>>>childhood.
>>>
>>>
>>>Actually, I just followed my classmate... It was her
>>>idea... I would never have done it on my own (even
>>>though I would have liked to, but I wouldn't have had
>>>the courage to do it)
>>>
>>>Wow, Dave... now I'm really curious...
>>>Would you like to share some of these experiences?
>>>If you'd like, we can chat (www.chatcrypt.com or
>>>trillian)... or we can continue here... whatever you
>>>prefer.
>>
>>Love to chat. What's the best way?
>
>
>I was thinking about chat because I see we're
>monopolizing the post... it's almost just you and me
>writing.
>If you have a Trillian account, we can use that. I
>have one.
>Otherwise, www.chatcrypt.com doesn't require
>registration or installation on your PC. It's an
>online address; the chat is deleted as soon as it
>ends, and there's no history.
>The only difference is that if you send messages in
>Trillian when the other person isn't online, they can
>read the message when they log in later. Not on
>www.chatcrypt.com. Both must be logged in at the time.
If you want, we can chat this evening on www.chatcrypt.com to get it done faster, then we'll think about it more for next time.
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Box one Dave (your name)
Box two Dave-Anna
Box three Anna-Dave
Date Posted:14:20:21 11/16/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 149.36.51.6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Well, I have managed to use both
>>my
>>>>>>>>first
>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>middle
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>name on this forum. I will
>>probably
>>>>>>>>stick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Burton
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or Burt going forward.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>After finding this forum and
>>>posting
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tomboy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thread, I started thinking about
>>>>>>>similar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>situations
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>might have experienced or heard
>>>>>about.
>>>>>>>>>>This
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>told to me by my wife years ago.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When she was 9 or 10, she was
>>>across
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>street
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing at a friend's house a
>girl
>>>>of
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>age.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The family was beginning the
>>>packing
>>>>>>>>>>>process
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>trip and the mom was scurrying
>>>about
>>>>>>>>>>making
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>preparations. The two girls were
>>>>>>>>>engrossed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>playing Barbies. After a time,
>her
>>>>>>>>friend
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>asked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>she
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wanted a popsicle. They then
>went
>>>>>>>>>looking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl's mother, hearing her voice
>>>>>>coming
>>>>>>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brothers room who was 14 or 15 at
>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>wandered in to the room to find
>>the
>>>>>>>>>mother
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>having
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>son try on the previous years
>>>>>>swimsuits
>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>still fit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The boy who was naked at the
>time,
>>>>>>>>>>>exclaimed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mother that the girls should
>>leave.
>>>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mother's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>reply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. " oh, they are just little
>>>girls,
>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>matter." The boy had to continue
>>>>>>trying
>>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bathing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>suits at the mothers insistence
>>>>while
>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stood there begging for
>popsicles.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I thought about that and
>>remembered
>>>>>>>>being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>told
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>same thing by my mother about my
>>>>>>sister
>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friends.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>So, my question is as a boy or
>>>young
>>>>>>>>man,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ever told this? Or for you
>ladies,
>>>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ever
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lucky little girls who were "far
>>to
>>>>>>>>>young"
>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>understand what you were seeing
>>>>(lol)
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>allowed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>stick around?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The "don't be silly, she's just a
>>>>>>little
>>>>>>>>>>>>girl"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>comment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brings to mind various experiences
>>I
>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>as
>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>child.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Both with my brother (who is three
>>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>me) and with my male cousin, who
>is
>>>>>>four
>>>>>>>>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>than me, as well as with my
>>>>>classmate's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>years older than us). They were
>>both
>>>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>>shy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ashamed and complained to my
>mother
>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>aunt,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>their answer was always "don't be
>>>>>>silly,
>>>>>>>>>>>>she's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>little girl".
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And while this was true when I was
>>5
>>>>>or
>>>>>>>6
>>>>>>>>>>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>old,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and I have very vague memories of
>>>>>those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>episodes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>(my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother and cousin recalled them
>>>>years
>>>>>>>>>>>later,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>evening at dinner, all three of us
>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>respective
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>spouses, we talked about childhood
>>>>>>>>>>>>nudity…),
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>other hand, I do have very clear
>>>>>>>memories
>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was 9 or 10 or 11.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I assure you, the phrase "don't be
>>>>>>>silly,
>>>>>>>>>>>>they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>just little girls, they don't
>>notice
>>>>>>>>these
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>things"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>not true! We notice them! At least
>>>>>>after
>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>age
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>7/8…
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>This post could also be under "The
>>>>>>>Double
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Standard"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>but I published it here because
>>this
>>>>>>>>>>>sentence
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>remained imprinted in my mind (and
>>>>>>>>>>>especially
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>minds of my brother and cousin…
>>>>>>lol…
>>>>>>>>>).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Anna i for one would love to hear
>>the
>>>>>>>>>>details
>>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you saw them nude. Under what
>>>>>>>>circumstances
>>>>>>>>>>>>did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>occur?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Dave,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Nothing particularly different from
>>>>what
>>>>>>>>>>>you've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>already partially described. But for
>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>9-11-year-old
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>girl, it was great.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I saw my brother naked a few times
>>>>>during
>>>>>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>bath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>his annual physical (as you said),
>or
>>>>>two
>>>>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>three
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>times while he was being spanked,
>and
>>>>>>once
>>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>river.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin while he was changing
>after
>>>>>his
>>>>>>>>>>bath
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was at his house, and once
>>>>>(unfortunately
>>>>>>>>>>only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>once...) during his annual physical,
>>>>and
>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>river,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the same time as my brother.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My sister's brother a few times when
>>I
>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>homework at his house (he changed
>>>after
>>>>>>>>>>>playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>soccer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to go to take a bath).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did you have a favorite boy to see
>>>among
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>3?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>How
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>did the physicals go? Did they have
>to
>>>>>>face
>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>drop their pants one i did? Were you
>>>>>>mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>interested
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to see their penises or did other
>>areas
>>>>>>>>>>>interest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>you?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did your friend and you discuss
>seeing
>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin, because he was the oldest
>(I
>>>>>>>think
>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>crush on him as a child).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The annual physical were, I think,
>>>>similar
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>yours.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>They were in their underwear for the
>>>>first
>>>>>>>>>>part,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>then they had to lower them for the
>>>>>>>>testicular
>>>>>>>>>>>>>exam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for a hernia (they explained it to me
>>>>>>later;
>>>>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>time, I didn't know why the
>>pediatrician
>>>>>>did
>>>>>>>>>>>>>that).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>The last time with my brother I was 11
>>>>and
>>>>>>>he
>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>14,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with my cousin I was 9 and he was 13.
>>>>With
>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>female
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>friend we were 9 so he was 11. My
>>>brother
>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>pubic hair last time and begged our
>mom
>>>>>not
>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>let
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>watch or to wait outside... but she
>>>>>>>responded
>>>>>>>>>>>>with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>usual phrase "Don't be silly, she's
>>your
>>>>>>>>>sister
>>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>little girl!" and the pediatrician
>>>>>>continued
>>>>>>>>>>her
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>work.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin also had some pubic hair at
>>>13,
>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>much
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>less than my brother, but it was the
>>>>first
>>>>>>>>>time
>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>saw
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>him with hair, the other times he was
>>>>>>>>>>hairless.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I was also interested in their butts,
>>>but
>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mainly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>attracted to their penises (I must
>>>>admit).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Yes, she and I talked about this
>>several
>>>>>>>>>times.
>>>>>>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>envied her because I only saw my
>>brother
>>>>>or
>>>>>>>>>>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>naked occasionally, while she told me
>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>happened
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>her every day... It wasn't much
>>>different
>>>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>brother at the same age, but it was a
>>>new
>>>>>>>>>>penis,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>was interesting... lol...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks for the details Anna. I don't
>>>blame
>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>being interested. I can remember every
>>>>>>girls
>>>>>>>>>>>>parts
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that I saw in childhood and loved it.
>>>>What
>>>>>>>>>were
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of the differences in their penises?
>>>>>>Anything
>>>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>noted?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My friend's brother's was the most
>>>>childish,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>obviously. He hadn't even started
>puberty
>>>>>yet
>>>>>>>>at
>>>>>>>>>>>>11,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>so he was hairless, and his balls didn't
>>>>sag
>>>>>>>>>>much.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>penis, however, was nice and fairly
>long.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My brother's was almost adult-sized, at
>>>>>least
>>>>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>memory. Thick and long, with lots of
>dark
>>>>>>>hair.
>>>>>>>>>>>His
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>balls were quite large, filling his sac
>>>>well
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>sagging quite a bit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My cousin's was almost as long as my
>>>>>>>brother's,
>>>>>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>less thick. His balls were slightly
>>>>smaller,
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>he
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>only had pubic hair at the base of his
>>>>penis
>>>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>left and right, not in the middle, and
>>the
>>>>>>>hair
>>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>shorter. He had just entered puberty.
>His
>>>>>>hair
>>>>>>>>>>was
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>light brown.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Circumcision isn't very common here in
>>>>>Italy,
>>>>>>>>so
>>>>>>>>>>>>all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>three were uncircumcised, with intact
>>>>>>>>foreskins.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>When,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>at the end of the visit, the
>pediatrician
>>>>>>>>>checked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the foreskin was loose and that there
>was
>>>>no
>>>>>>>>>>>>redness
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>at the tip, they both had the beginnings
>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>erections... wow! omg!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>On the way back, they were embarrassed
>in
>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>car
>>>>>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>remained silent the whole time...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Did you get to see them retracted? My
>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Germany was visiting and saw my penis.
>She
>>>>>>kept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>saying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>how she loved are could see the end of it
>>>>>(her
>>>>>>>>>>>>words)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>all the time!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>During the visit, I saw the pediatrician
>>>>>>>>>completely
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>retract their foreskins and the pink tip
>>>>>>>>emerge...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lol...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Once we got home, I asked both my brother
>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>if they'd let me see "the magic" again...
>I
>>>>>>>>>>actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>used that word...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My little slit didn't do any of that; I
>was
>>>>>>>>>jealous
>>>>>>>>>>>>of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>their male parts, which were elongating,
>>>>>>>>>hardening,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and with the tip disappearing and
>>>>appearing...
>>>>>>>>>what
>>>>>>>>>>>>an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>innocent, silly girl...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Lol that's great. What was their reaction
>>>>when
>>>>>>>>you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>asked?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>They immediately replied, "Absolutely not!
>>How
>>>>>>>>>>>>embarrassing!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>Then, after much persistence, they said yes,
>>>>but
>>>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>>had
>>>>>>>>>>>>to show my kitty (something I would never
>>have
>>>>>>>>>>>>done...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>Finally, after much persuasion, I convinced
>>>>>them,
>>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>>they both showed me their covered penises,
>>>then
>>>>>>>>>>slowly
>>>>>>>>>>>>pulled back the foreskin, exposing the tip
>>>>>>>>>>completely.
>>>>>>>>>>>>They remained like that for a few seconds,
>>>just
>>>>>>>>long
>>>>>>>>>>>>enough to show me a good look, then they put
>>>it
>>>>>>>>back
>>>>>>>>>>>>and put on their underwear.
>>>>>>>>>>>>WOW!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>That's a great experience for a young girl.
>>One
>>>>>on
>>>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>>>reverse standard. As a young boy, my aunt
>>>>cousin
>>>>>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>>her friend would take me to the park. If they
>>>>had
>>>>>>>to
>>>>>>>>>>>use the bathroom, they'd go into the women's
>>>>>>room.
>>>>>>>>>>>They would ask me if I had to use it. This
>>was
>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>single stall bathroom. We'd all go in at once
>>>to
>>>>>>>use
>>>>>>>>>>>it. My cousin a girl 3 years older, objected
>>>to
>>>>>>me
>>>>>>>>>>>being in there but they used the same phrase
>"
>>>>>>he's
>>>>>>>>>>>just a boy!". The friend looked hesitant as
>>>well
>>>>>>>but
>>>>>>>>>>>the aunt rolled her eyes and dropped her
>>pants.
>>>>I
>>>>>>>>got
>>>>>>>>>>>to watch 3 ladies pee! A real special thing
>>for
>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>>young boy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Dave, you're right, it was a great experience
>>>for
>>>>>a
>>>>>>>>>>10-11 year old. It remained in my mind after
>so
>>>>>>many
>>>>>>>>>>years as if it happened yesterday…
>>>>>>>>>>I didn't think they'd finally give in and let
>>me
>>>>>>see
>>>>>>>>>>it. But they did it! OMG!
>>>>>>>>>>But I was so eager to see him again, more time
>>>>and
>>>>>>>>>>more closely after the first time at the
>>>>>>>>pediatrician,
>>>>>>>>>>that I think I was a little pushy and just
>>>>>>exhausted
>>>>>>>>>>them… lol…
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>My brother, poor thing, has never had any
>>>reverse
>>>>>>>>>>experiences… I think he would have liked to
>>be
>>>>>in
>>>>>>>>>>your place at the park. How old were you when
>>it
>>>>>>>>>>happened? Was your cousin's friend three years
>>>>>>older
>>>>>>>>>>than you as your cousin?
>>>>>>>>>>I guess you looked carefully... lol... I would
>>>>>have
>>>>>>>>>>looked carefully in the situation with three
>>>>>>guys…
>>>>>>>>>>lol…
>>>>>>>>>>How did your cousin's friend react or what did
>>>>she
>>>>>>>>say
>>>>>>>>>>when your aunt pulled down her pants?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I was about 9. Hadn't started puberty but right
>>>on
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>>>cusp. I had seen my sisters vagina when we were
>>>>>very
>>>>>>>>>small so I knew what I was expecting but when
>my
>>>>>>aunt
>>>>>>>>>pulled her pants down and I saw the hair and
>>lips
>>>>I
>>>>>>>>>was pretty shocked. I was also fascinated as I
>>>>>>always
>>>>>>>>>wondered how girls peed. Did you ever see boys
>>>>pee?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>My cousin was kind of incredulous when my aunt
>>>>>>>whipped
>>>>>>>>>down her pants and then when she finished she
>>>told
>>>>>>my
>>>>>>>>>cousin to go because we won't have another
>>>>bathroom
>>>>>>>>>for several hours. That's when she objected to
>>me
>>>>>>>>>being there and my aunt chastised her. " it's a
>>>>>>>little
>>>>>>>>>boy and your cousin he doesn't care!". Oh how
>>>>wrong
>>>>>>>>>she was lol. Her friend after just shrugged and
>>>>>>>pulled
>>>>>>>>>down her pants as well so I got to see all 3!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Both were the same age in school together.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I totally understand. I was shocked too the
>first
>>>>>>time
>>>>>>>>I saw my brother (and then my cousin) with pubic
>>>>>>hair,
>>>>>>>>even though it wasn't the first time I'd ever
>>seen
>>>>>>>>their penises.
>>>>>>>>Did her friend have pubic hair, too?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Yes, I saw my brother pee and my friend's
>brother
>>>>>>too.
>>>>>>>>Fascinating... very different from how I used to
>>>do
>>>>>>>>it; they were standing...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How did you see them? Outside or in?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Both the girls had the beginning of pubic hair
>>>>>growth.
>>>>>>>My cousin had much darker hair.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My friend's brother at his house. My friend and I
>>>had
>>>>>>finished our homework and went to her room to
>play.
>>>>In
>>>>>>the hallway, we passed the bathroom where her
>>>brother
>>>>>>was peeing with the door partially open, probably
>>>>>>because he was in a hurry or because he was used
>to
>>>>it
>>>>>>and hadn't considered my presence that day. My
>>>friend
>>>>>>said, "Let's go," and we went into the bathroom.
>He
>>>>>>protested, saying I could see him, but my friend
>>>told
>>>>>>him we needed to wash our hands because we had to
>>>eat
>>>>>>our snack (a lie... lol...). He was halfway
>through
>>>>>>and couldn't stop himself from peeing and hiding
>>his
>>>>>>penis in his underwear. So all he could do was
>>>finish
>>>>>>his business while his sister and I watched from
>>>less
>>>>>>than a meter away. OMG! How exciting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My brother twice. Once at our house and once at
>the
>>>>>>river. At the river he was probably 9 or 10 years
>>>>old,
>>>>>>while at our house he was older, I'd say 11 or 12.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>At 12, I also already had pubic hair. Not like a
>>>>fully
>>>>>>grown girl, obviously, but I already had some on
>my
>>>>>>pubic area, a nice tuft, but not yet on my lips.
>>>Very
>>>>>>dark, black, like my brother's. He and I have
>black
>>>>>>hair (on our heads), and the hair down there is
>>>black
>>>>>>too. My male cousin on the other hand has light
>>>>brown,
>>>>>>almost blonde hair.
>>>>>
>>>>>Very daring of you to walk right in lol. I have
>many
>>>>>experiences where girls watched me pee in my
>>>>childhood.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Actually, I just followed my classmate... It was her
>>>>idea... I would never have done it on my own (even
>>>>though I would have liked to, but I wouldn't have
>had
>>>>the courage to do it)
>>>>
>>>>Wow, Dave... now I'm really curious...
>>>>Would you like to share some of these experiences?
>>>>If you'd like, we can chat (www.chatcrypt.com or
>>>>trillian)... or we can continue here... whatever you
>>>>prefer.
>>>
>>>Love to chat. What's the best way?
>>
>>
>>I was thinking about chat because I see we're
>>monopolizing the post... it's almost just you and me
>>writing.
>>If you have a Trillian account, we can use that. I
>>have one.
>>Otherwise, www.chatcrypt.com doesn't require
>>registration or installation on your PC. It's an
>>online address; the chat is deleted as soon as it
>>ends, and there's no history.
>>The only difference is that if you send messages in
>>Trillian when the other person isn't online, they can
>>read the message when they log in later. Not on
>>www.chatcrypt.com. Both must be logged in at the time.
>
>If you want, we can chat this evening on
>www.chatcrypt.com to get it done faster, then we'll
>think about it more for next time.
>
>www.chatcrypt.com
>Box one Dave (your name)
>Box two Dave-Anna
>Box three Anna-Dave
Unfortunately, I have to go now.
I see you're busy because you haven't responded.
I'll talk to you tomorrow or in the next few days.
Bye, Dave.