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Subject: Re: Penis envy: fact or fiction!

Author:
Anna
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Date Posted: 14:00:50 11/16/25 Sun
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In reply to: spelvin 's message, "Penis envy: fact or fiction!" on 07:29:58 11/16/25 Sun

>On November 15, Anna wrote that she was impressed from
>seeing her brother’s and her cousin’s genitals at
>the doctor’s office.
>
>When they arrived home, she asked for a repeat
>performance, but felt apologetic because her “little
>slit didn’t do any of that. She “was jealous of
>their male parts.”
>
>In 2018, Thelma wrote to the 223876 forum with a
>similar message:
>
>“Girls don’t have much showing. A slit (I used to
>call it my tiny bum!). After seeing my first penis I
>thought my ‘coochie’ was ugly. It was just a slit!
>I was very embarrassed about it and never would have
>shown it to a boy!”
>But let’s be cautious about making generalizations.
>There are some members of the gender who don’t
>provide much validation.
>
>But there have been some dissenting votes.
>Here is one (Rush 1980:143):
>
>“When my daughter saw her infant brother’s penis
>for the first time, rather than envy she thought
>something was wrong and asked in alarm, ‘What’s
>that stuff between his legs?’ She had to be
>reassured that there was nothing wrong with him.”
>
>Here is another (Hall 2019):
>
>“I never wished for the actual male organs; in fact,
>I thought those dangly bits might be rather
>inconvenient.”
>We have heard CFNM decried for injustice both ways.
>It is allegedly preferential to the girls in that the
>girls get to look and the boys don’t.
>
>It is allegedly preferential to the boys in that the
>boys get to show and the girls don’t.
>Besides, we have Title IX to contend with.
>So let’s make all the children go naked, shall we?
>If only it were that simple!
>A NFNM policy might not go over big with Anna and
>Thelma’s party.
>It’s hard to say how it would go over with Florence
>Rush or with Harriet Hall.
>
>At any rate, those of us in the male gender have our
>problems, too.
>According to Karen Horney ([1950] 1991), we suffer
>from “womb envy.”
>We wish we could not only raise children, but bear
>children.
>In case you wondered why there are more great male
>novelists, composers, and artists than great female
>novelists, composers, and artists, it is not because
>we are better or smarter.
>Rather, it is because we are compensating for our
>barren state.
>
>When a novel is first published, the novelist says,
>“That’s my baby!”
>When a composition is first performed, the composer
>says, “That’s my baby!”
>When a work of visual art is first unveiled, the
>artist says, “That’s my baby!”
>
>Hall, H. 2019. Science envy in alternative medicine.
>Skeptical Inquirer 43, 4 (July): 21-23.
>
>Horney, K. [1950] 1991. Karen Horney on work, art,
>creativity, and neurosis. American Journal of
>Psychoanalysis 51, 3: 245-247.
>
>Rush, F. 1980. The best kept secret: Sexual abuse of
>children. Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice-Hall.

Thanks, Spelvin, for mentioning me in your post...

I stand by what I wrote last time: at that age, I envied my brother's and my cousin's penises.
They grew longer or shorter, they hardened and softened, they changed size, the foreskin could hide or reveal the tip... Then there was the sack with the balls... For me, it was much more beautiful and interesting than my simple, narrow slit... (I didn't yet know about the clitoris and the opening of the vagina)...

Sorry if I was blunt and forward.

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Author:
Walter
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Date Posted: 05:29:41 12/06/25 Sat
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I have heard girls say they felt cheated or something was missing when they saw a boys penis. When you boys will pee in woods right in front of girls and they have to pee away modestly and they mention they are annoyed by it.

I have also seen girls say I did not know it did that when erect at campground showers with mom when I was 8. I would always shower with mom and at campground some girls saw erect penis in shower.

I think it is a bit true

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>>On November 15, Anna wrote that she was impressed from >>seeing her brother’s and her cousin’s genitals at >>the doctor’s office. >> >>When they arrived home, she asked for a repeat >>performance, but felt apologetic because her “little >>slit didn’t do any of that. She “was jealous of >>their male parts.” >> >>In 2018, Thelma wrote to the 223876 forum with a >>similar message: >> >>“Girls don’t have much showing. A slit (I used to >>call it my tiny bum!). After seeing my first penis I >>thought my ‘coochie’ was ugly. It was just a slit! >>I was very embarrassed about it and never would have >>shown it to a boy!” >>But let’s be cautious about making generalizations. >>There are some members of the gender who don’t >>provide much validation. >> >>But there have been some dissenting votes. >>Here is one (Rush 1980:143): >> >>“When my daughter saw her infant brother’s penis >>for the first time, rather than envy she thought >>something was wrong and asked in alarm, ‘What’s >>that stuff between his legs?’ She had to be >>reassured that there was nothing wrong with him.” >> >>Here is another (Hall 2019): >> >>“I never wished for the actual male organs; in fact, >>I thought those dangly bits might be rather >>inconvenient.” >>We have heard CFNM decried for injustice both ways. >>It is allegedly preferential to the girls in that the >>girls get to look and the boys don’t. >> >>It is allegedly preferential to the boys in that the >>boys get to show and the girls don’t. >>Besides, we have Title IX to contend with. >>So let’s make all the children go naked, shall we? >>If only it were that simple! >>A NFNM policy might not go over big with Anna and >>Thelma’s party. >>It’s hard to say how it would go over with Florence >>Rush or with Harriet Hall. >> >>At any rate, those of us in the male gender have our >>problems, too. >>According to Karen Horney ([1950] 1991), we suffer >>from “womb envy.” >>We wish we could not only raise children, but bear >>children. >>In case you wondered why there are more great male >>novelists, composers, and artists than great female >>novelists, composers, and artists, it is not because >>we are better or smarter. >>Rather, it is because we are compensating for our >>barren state. >> >>When a novel is first published, the novelist says, >>“That’s my baby!” >>When a composition is first performed, the composer >>says, “That’s my baby!” >>When a work of visual art is first unveiled, the >>artist says, “That’s my baby!” >> >>Hall, H. 2019. Science envy in alternative medicine. >>Skeptical Inquirer 43, 4 (July): 21-23. >> >>Horney, K. [1950] 1991. Karen Horney on work, art, >>creativity, and neurosis. American Journal of >>Psychoanalysis 51, 3: 245-247. >> >>Rush, F. 1980. The best kept secret: Sexual abuse of >>children. Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice-Hall. > > >Thanks, Spelvin, for mentioning me in your post... > >I stand by what I wrote last time: at that age, I >envied my brother's and my cousin's penises. >They grew longer or shorter, they hardened and >softened, they changed size, the foreskin could hide >or reveal the tip... Then there was the sack with the >balls... For me, it was much more beautiful and >interesting than my simple, narrow slit... (I didn't >yet know about the clitoris and the opening of the >vagina)... > >Sorry if I was blunt and forward.
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