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Subject: Re: Boys nude in front of girls / women during swims or medical exams Author: spelvin (to .) [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 11:17:36 01/26/26 Mon Author Host/IP: 72.78.201.247 In reply to: . 's message, "Re: Boys nude in front of girls / women during swims or medical exams" on 00:33:04 01/26/26 Mon Hello, .! And thank you for sharing your opinion! Last July, I started a thread on the reasons for boy nudity. I invite you to check this out: https://www.voy.com/250988/1569.html I admit that I said a lot about why boys should but not much about why girls shouldn't. Someone else started a great big thread on the double standard: https://www.voy.com/250988/1569.html I started to wonder what experts in psychology and psychiatry thought about modesty training. I did a google search, hoping to find professional journal articles on the subject. The only sites I found on the subject were written by religiously motivated parents. Even there, modesty training for boys comes only as an overthought. Apparently, it went without saying that girls should be modesty trained. Here I explain my google search in greater detail: https://www.voy.com/250988/1373.html I am far from taking a firm stand on the dichotomy between CFNM and egalitarian nudity. I guess I would approve of women and girls going nude if they wanted to, but they don't seem to want to. In the community where I live, there is an annual nude event. The men at that event always outnumber the women by at least 10 to 1. Here is a study conducted by a zealous advocate of nudism. Despite the author's bias, she found that home-based nudism and recreational nudism benefitted boys, but had no significant effect on girls: Story, M. D. 1979. Factors associated with more positive body self-concepts in preschool children. Journal of Social Psychology 108: 49-56. CFNM seems to be a human instinct. In Japan, boys perform in drum ensembles for jam-packed auditoriums, wearing loincloths that cover the genitals and nothing else. In the Embera tribe of Panama and Colombia, boys go naked until they show signs of modesty. Girls are covered up from the very beginning. I can't escape, however, from the argument that CFNM is unjust. In 2012, Drew wrote to the 223876 forum: "My sisters, older girlfriends would get a chuckle out of seeing a few boys run around naked in summer but the chuckle did wear off quickly. They mentioned they would run around too if they had a ding ding and were allowed to do that too." In 2022, melanie wrote to the 223876 forum: "As you said, we were all used to it, it was normal to us so nothing seemed out of the ordinary at the time. In a way I wish I had questioned it, said why not us girls go naked too? But I was just a kid, it was just the way thing were." Likewise for the double standard for toplessness. On January 2, 2022, Claire wrote to this forum: https://www.historyworld.co.uk/photo.php?id=1607&we=0&sort=0&3=Childhood&l2= "Boys doing PE, and other exercise, topless has always seemed to be a good idea to me, Back when i was at school, I was always envious of my brother being allowed to take his top off for PE , while I had to endure a clingy polo-shirt - not even the luxury of a sleeveless vest, and still less the freedom of a sports bra, for us girls. i should add that topless was optional for the boys, generally with 100% uptake!" If you have any further thoughts on the subject, I shall be interested to hear them. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Boys nude in front of girls / women during swims or medical exams Author: spelvin (to . again) [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:35:58 01/26/26 Mon Author Host/IP: 72.78.201.247 From the stories I've collected from the yellow and blue forums, I can give you a little bit of consolation. If the girls have one guy outnumbered, a very confident NFCM situation can result. After junior high baseball practice, the coach asked Joseph (2023, Voy 206801) to take the bases to the equipment room. The only route to the equipment room was through the girls’ locker room. He was unabashedly watched by the cheerleaders, who were fresh out of the shower. All twelve cheerleaders rushed to Joseph’s aid when he slipped and fell. Some of the girls helped him back up while some helped him gather up the bases, “not even concerned about their nudity.” The girls could get especially uninhibited if the one guy is a socially awkward geek. When Patrick (2023, Voy 206801) attended high school, he was so girl-shy that he could not even talk to a girl without stuttering. “I think girls thought I was kind of cute, because of how harmless I was to them.” One day during the volleyball season, Patrick stayed after school to tend to some scholastic matters. A girl came to his desk and requested help. She led the way, which was past the girls' locker door. At that [point, another girl came out and joined the first girl in pushing him inside. There he was greeted by a very moist, very feminine, and very underclad volleyball team. “Don’t be shy.” “Do you like what you see?” Patrick concludes, “They knew I was not a threat so they felt empowered.” [ Post a Reply to This Message ]