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>Ginger, > >That was a great "novel"! I agree with everything you >say. > >We had a similar incident to the grapefruit. M Dad had >picked up a box of apples at a fruit stand in Eastern >Washington and brought them home (near Seattle in the >Western part of the state). The apples were left in >the garage and one of my younger brothers took a bite >out of each one. > >Mom had him count the apples"so she would know how >many spanks to give." I felt at the time it was >justified for sure, and was not sorry for him one bit. > >You are absolutely right about spanking alone not >being the answer. It's just that, in general, parents >who spank care about responsibility and discipline in >a way non-spanking parents often do not. Astoundingly, >for a lot of "experts" even the timeout is out. They >believe there should be no punishments at all. In the >adult criminal justice world we are seeing this same >insane dynamic. > >Two other points you made ring with me. I too >felt--disappointing Mom and the catharsis of the >spanking. Mom was a confirmed spanker, but I always >knew it was done out of love. > >Taylor

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