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Date Posted: 10:27:53 02/07/03 Fri
Author: JoeStag
Subject: CollegeRPI
In reply to:
STAGAL
's message, "Current RPI" on 10:11:22 02/07/03 Fri
Stagal, did you post the Sagarin RPI?????? Here is the CollegeRPI.... which is the formula that the NCAA goes by. Manhattan 57 and Stags at 81. I think you need to be in the 50's to be considered for an at-Large.
I read that the NCAA might alter this formula for this year to give extra points for Road wins. They feel that this will motivate High Majors to play more away games at Mid Majors, because they will get more RPI points. NCAA is looking down upon the high majors that schedule most of their OOC at home. Stags are currently 6-3 as a road team so that will benefit them if instituted this year.
School W L Pct W L Pct W L Pct RPI Rank
Manhattan 11 1 0.917 18 3 0.857 18 3 0.857 0.5748 57
Fairfield 9 2 0.818 13 7 0.650 13 7 0.650 0.5518 81
Iona 6 4 0.600 11 8 0.579 11 8 0.579 0.4934 168
Niagara 6 4 0.600 10 9 0.526 10 9 0.526 0.4993 161
Siena 7 5 0.583 13 8 0.619 13 8 0.619 0.5108 142
Rider 4 7 0.364 9 11 0.450 9 11 0.450 0.4814 187
Marist 4 7 0.364 8 12 0.400 8 12 0.400 0.4900 178
Canisius 4 8 0.333 8 13 0.381 8 13 0.381 0.4679 218
St. Peter's 3 8 0.273 6 13 0.316 6 13 0.316 0.4490 246
Loyola-Maryland 1 9 0.100 4 15 0.211 4 15 0.211 0.4003 294
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At Large -- Stagman, 10:55:56 02/07/03 Fri
I think you have to be at least in the 35-40 range to get an at-large. At least that has pretty much been the cutoff the past couple of years.
For a MAAC team to get into that range, they would have to have a phenomenal record and probably at least one big name victim.
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Re: At Large - a Mathematical look -- JoeStag, 11:29:00 02/07/03 Fri
There are about 30 Automatic bids. 15 go to the Top Conferences and that team is usually in the top 50. The other 15 automatic bids go to mid majors like the MAAC and low majors (not in the top 50). That accounts for 30 of the 65.... that leaves 35 at large bids..... and when you add that to the original 15 top bids, that gives you the top 50 from RPI. So I kinda agree with you:
< 40 ==> you got an At Large
40-50 ==> looks good
50-60 ==> on the bubble
Other factors: W-L record, Quality wins, Road wins, Record in last 10 games, Record against teams already in the NCAA, Record in Conference Tourney, Conference RPI.
Manhattan is the only MAAC team with a chance at an at-Large.
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Re: At Large - a Mathematical look -- Stagman, 11:56:35 02/07/03 Fri
As of today, arguably, the only mid-majors who could get considered for an at-large, if they didn't win their conference tournaments, would be:
Butler
Manhattan
Creighton
Southern Illinois
Gonzaga
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Re: At Large - a Mathematical look -- Fan, 12:15:35 02/07/03 Fri
If Manhattan is on the bubble, it will get the benefit of the doubt. Don't underestimate the NCAA's desire to have an NYC presence in the tournament. St. John's probably isn't going to make it. The last time Manhattan got an at-large, in 1995, its RPI was in the mid-50s.
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Re: At Large - a Mathematical look -- jasper93, 12:38:23 02/07/03 Fri
You are forgetting Kent St. with a rpi of 30.
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I would also add UNCW and HC -- JoeStag, 12:45:45 02/07/03 Fri
UNCW is currently 14-5, and its very possible they could rin the table and lose in their conference finaland end 24-6. Thet are currently ranked 70th and could end in the 50's. Since they had a very good NCAA they could be on the Bubble.
Holy Cross is a long shot but they could finish 25-5 under the same scenario as UNCW. Not as likely as their RPI would probably end in the 60's - 70's. And they played well in last years NCAA but did not win.
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POMEROY COLLEGE BB RATINGS -- STAGAL, 18:10:30 02/07/03 Fri
Went back to where I found #'s from above, was the Pomeroy rating. From there I went to college RPI as you mentioned, MC at 57 and FF at 81.
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