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Subject: Should Niagara Drop Basketball, period ? Author: NUSuperfan [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: Wednesday, April 03, 07:38:59pm Author Host/IP: fl-67-233-140-154.dhcp.embarqhsd.net/67.233.140.154 As we all know many institutions of higher learning are closing every day. We all saw St. Francis, NY forced to end its basketball tradition before this past season began. The reason was a matter of financial survival for the Frankies. The question is whether or not Niagara can exist with the financial burdens in today's market to continue its tradition of college basketball ? Purp1 , on the one hand, makes a lot of sense as per his reasoning to drop basketball at NU. My question to the rest of YOU is whether or not you agree with Purp1 on that issue. Should NU sustain or drop college basketball, period, in order to guaranty its solvency ? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> Subject: Re: Should Niagara Drop Basketball, period ? Author: Eagle [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, April 03, 07:53:27pm Author Host/IP: 067-248-227-222.res.spectrum.com/67.248.227.222 If NU were to cut basketball it might as well close. The key, always the key, is management. They has mismanaged the athletic program for decades, with no indication of an epiphany on the horizon. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Should Niagara Drop Basketball, period ? Author: Hnk373431 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, April 03, 09:08:13pm Author Host/IP: 098-004-082-135.res.spectrum.com/98.4.82.135 Niagara should be doing exactly what they are doing. The MAAC is a perfect conference for the program and no they should not be investing tons of money into basketball. AJ Storr (Wisconsin portal entrant) reportedly wants $1,000,000. Kansas countered offered $750,000 and he turned them down. That is not NIL it is play for pay. Little 3 schools are not going to be able to match those resources nor will the vast majority of D1 programs. Why make any kind of jump to a lower division when the structure of college athletics is so hazy. Obviously LeMoyne, Stonehill, and St Thomas felt there was benefit in moving up. At some point the P5 may break away but Niagara would still be aligned with 280 other colleges. Or maybe the P6 decides that they don’t want to change the basketball tourney and things stay the same (though with the rich getting richer). In 3-5 years we will know where things are headed. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Should Niagara Drop Basketball, period ? Author: PurplePig63 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, April 03, 10:08:19pm Author Host/IP: NoHost/47.155.10.60 Hnk is exactly right. Stop all this drop bball nonsense. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Re: Should Niagara Drop Basketball, period ? Author: Maldez [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, April 03, 09:53:50pm Author Host/IP: 024-059-042-147.res.spectrum.com/24.59.42.147 No need for Niagara to drop basketball now or in the near future. You doom and gloomers are overreacting. As Hnk pointed out "Niagara should be doing exactly what they are doing. The MAAC is a perfect conference for the program and no they should not be investing tons of money into basketball"....well said. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Should Niagara Drop Basketball, period ? Author: Purp 1 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, April 03, 10:57:08pm Author Host/IP: 074-070-140-050.res.spectrum.com/74.70.140.50 You guys all suffer from BAD reading comprehension. I said two things: 1) I made a case for the advantages of not having a group that won anything stick around. Also you have to pick a brand new team almost every year. You guys catch that part? 2) I made a case for NU dropping the whole thing. I will never give a dime to put in a players pocket. I have no dog in the fight. I also purchase tickets although I haven't been in the GC for two seasons, but I pay to watch them from home on ESPN+ which also allows me to watch EVERY game on the schedule. Do I want them to drop basketball? No to the reading challenged. Would I understand if they did? With the numbers I cited I would absolutely understand. People in Olean are wondering if Schmidt is going to be worth having to find the whales to keep him employed. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> Subject: Hockey Author: Wcpurple [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, April 03, 10:59:03pm Author Host/IP: 071-080-194-159.res.spectrum.com/71.80.194.159 Why do we have hockey still? No one cares, I’m former season ticket holder. Seriously, the place should be packed but it isn’t. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> Subject: Re: Hockey Author: Eagle [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Wednesday, April 03, 11:43:06pm Author Host/IP: 067-248-227-222.res.spectrum.com/67.248.227.222 NU let Frank go... NU let the soccer coach in late 60" go. NU let Blaise go in hockey... NU let the girls volley ball coach go about 6-6 years ago. NU has no desire to grow their programs or how to conduct an IRR. With Frank we would have been in the BE. With Blaise we would have a couple of National Champs banners...they ran then all off! . [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Mike, please... Author: Purp 1 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, April 04, 12:14:42am Author Host/IP: 074-070-140-050.res.spectrum.com/74.70.140.50 One person doesn't do anything. Look no further than Siena College. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Mercyhurst Author: Hnk373431 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, April 04, 05:22:06am Author Host/IP: 098-004-082-135.res.spectrum.com/98.4.82.135 To NEC. Moving up to Division 1 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Mike, please... Author: Monte2014 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, April 04, 08:30:11am Author Host/IP: NoHost/161.11.160.104 Don't bad mouth Siena to him. They can do no wrong. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Hockey Author: Monte2014 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, April 04, 08:29:48am Author Host/IP: NoHost/161.11.160.104 Ahh, yes. NU let Frank Layden go to the NBA. Soccer coach in the late 60's? Really? What did Blaise do after he left NU? Nothing. He was under .500 at UMass-Lowell. The volleyball coach left to go to Siena, who then fired him. The only coach who accomplished ANYTHING after the left Niagara was Frank Layden, and that was in the NBA. Give me a break. Your precious Siena can't get out of their own way. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Neither Iona or Siena Rule The MAAC Author: NUSuperfan [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, April 04, 08:18:16pm Author Host/IP: fl-67-233-140-154.dhcp.embarqhsd.net/67.233.140.154 It appears to me that the MAAC is a wide open conference. Any MAAC coach can win it . The MAAC coach who recruits the portal the best , in any given season, will have a real shot at winning the league. Iona no longer has a name coach to recruit at a high level AND Siena's glory days are over. If Paulus can somehow successfully use his magic plunger in the portal, Niagara just might catch a few diamond in the roughs to get to the NCAA tournament. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> Subject: Re: Hockey Author: Eagle [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, April 04, 09:29:21am Author Host/IP: 067-248-227-222.res.spectrum.com/67.248.227.222 Some inconvenient facts: - Frank quit NU when they wouldn't extend his contract to include college tuition for his son, Scotty. Frank quit without a job and that night he went home and received a call from Hubie Brown to be his assistant for the New Orleans Jazz, the rest is histoy... NU had a great soccer coach in the late 60's and they punched way over their wait...his name was Al and let go...go figure... Blasise took the cover off the ball for NU hockey and he was run out of town due to his success. NU was the right place for Blaise and Blaise was the right guy for NU guiding them to #8 in the nation from nothing. Bonas and Siena run their programs far, far better than NU and the proof is in the pudd'n....they both have a loyal and large following due to their success at managing their program. https://www.facebook.com/watch?v=1156063745419915 [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hockey Author: Eagle [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, April 04, 09:31:08am Author Host/IP: 067-248-227-222.res.spectrum.com/67.248.227.222 Oh, and the women's V-ball coach about 10-12 years ago I was referring to went somewhere in the mid west, not Siena. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hockey Author: Monte2014 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, April 04, 11:08:09am Author Host/IP: NoHost/161.11.160.104 You're referring to Susan Clements...who is now an ASSISTANT coach at Coastal Carolina. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hockey Author: Monte2014 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, April 04, 11:12:14am Author Host/IP: NoHost/161.11.160.104 Again, what did Blaise do after NU? Nothing. Wouldn't a bigger program have gone after him? Siena literally just had a 4 win season. They haven't been any good since Fran McCaffery. They managed their program so well that they promoted Mitch Buonaguro who was 72-103 at Fairfield. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> Subject: Re: Hockey Author: Purp 1 [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: Thursday, April 04, 03:22:33pm Author Host/IP: 074-070-140-050.res.spectrum.com/74.70.140.50 It takes enormous nuts to pontificate and bring up ancient history when your own school went from prominence to the outhouse while NU was having some of it's best seasons. Eagle's MO is always, "here's what to do, but don't count on me. I just give the orders." [ Post a Reply to This Message ]