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Date Posted: 07:51:01 01/10/10 Sun
Author: Ryan (Enthusiastic)
Subject: Re: Proof The Bible Is False
In reply to: MARS Attacks! 's message, "Re: Proof The Bible Is False" on 20:02:35 03/18/03 Tue

Well im impressed with the accuracy of all of your age calculations down to Jacob (Israel)...but that particular Jacob (Israel) is not the Jacob who fathered Joseph the husband of Mary...he was the father of Judah and eleven other sons making the 12 tribes of Israel, one son also named Joseph, but NOT the same Joseph that was married to Mary, the virgin. This was the Joseph who was sold into slavery by his brothers in Genesis 37 beginning in verse 12....My point is that if you want an accurate timeline, you are missing about 2000 years (give or take a few) of lineage in the Davidic line leading up to the Joseph who married the virgin Mary. You left off with Jacob (Israel) who was the father of Judah the father of Perez the father of Hezron, the father of Ram, the father of Amminadab, the father of Nahshon, the father of Obed, the father of Jesse, the father of King David (hence the Davidic line), the father of Solomon, the father of Rehoboam, the father of Abijah, the father of Asa, the father of Jehoshaphat, the father of Jehoram, the father of Uzziah, the father of Jotham, the father of Ahaz, the father of Hezekiah, the father of Manesseh, the father of Amon, the father of Josiah, the father of Jeconiah, the father of Shealtiel, the father of Zerubbabel, the father of Abiud, the father of Eliakim, the father of Azor, the father of Zadok, the father of Akim, the father of Eliud, the father of Eleazar, the father of Matthan who is finally the father of Joseph, the Joseph who married the virgin Mary who bore a son to be called Immanuel. Jesus. And to verify that I didn't make all these names up, you can find all of them listed in order in Matthew 1:2-16; and you can find information pertaining to the lives of several of those that were the sons and grandsons of Solomon in the books of 1 and 2 Kings and 1 and 2 Chronicles. However there is much more substantial proof verifying the Bible's claims as absolute truth that can be found in the prophecies listed in the major and minor prophetic books of the Old Testament and those prophecies coming true in the synoptic gospels of the new testament (Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John).....also see the works of Flavius Josephus and Tacitus and the writings of the Talmud, all of these are extrabiblical sources that verify such things as the birth and existence of Christ, and the death and resurrection of Christ without any bias in favor of or against the Bible. They are purely historical writings that prove the existence, death, and resurrection of Christ as historical fact. Also see the Dead Sea Scrolls which prove the prophecies proclaiming the coming of Christ and His death in the Old Testament existed long before Christ. So honestly, how could prophets such as Isaiah, Ezekiel, Malachi, Micah, and Zechariah (to name just a few) have predicted such specific things like a King born of a virgin, and from the Davidic line would come from the town of Bethelem (a tiny insignificant town) (prophesied Micah 5:2 - revealed Luke 2:4)? The fact is, the couldn't, without true divine inspiration by God, thus proving the Bible as truth...and that prophecy is just one of several. If you really want to know if the Bible is true of not, do some research, and I know you will find that the amount of proof out there supporting the Bible is overwhelmingly more than that against it.

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