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Date Posted: 09:17:52 05/04/01 Fri
Author: David R.W. Wadsworth
Subject: SAUL OF TARSUS' "CONVERSION" CONTRADICTIONS

SUBJECT: SAUL OF TARSUS' "CONVERSION" CONTRADICTIONS
NAME: David R.W. Wadsworth (drww@home.com)

Saul�s 4 Contradictory Versions of his Conversion

VERSION 1:

Acts 9:3-29

3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest (sic) thou me?

5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest (sic): [it is] hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord [said] unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

8 And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought [him] into Damascus.

9 And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink.

10 � And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I [am here], Lord.

11 And the Lord [said] unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire (sic) in the house of Judas for [one] called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,

12 And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting [his] hand on him, that he might receive his sight.

13 Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:

14 And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.

15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

16 For I will shew (sic) him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.

17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, [even] Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest (sic), hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.

18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.

19 And when he had received meat, he was strengthened. Then was Saul certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus.

20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

21 But all that heard [him] were amazed, and said; Is not this he that destroyed them which called on this name in Jerusalem, and came hither for that intent, that he might bring them bound unto the chief priests?

22 But Saul increased the more in strength, and confounded the Jews which dwelt at Damascus, proving that this is very Christ.

23 � And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him:

24 But their laying await was known of Saul. And they watched the gates day and night to kill him.

25 Then the disciples took him by night, and let [him] down by the wall in a basket.

26 And when Saul was come to Jerusalem, he assayed to join himself to the disciples: but they were all afraid of him, and believed not that he was a disciple.

27 But Barnabas took him, and brought [him] to the apostles, and declared unto them how he had seen the Lord in the way, and that he had spoken to him, and how he had preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Jesus.

28 And he was with them coming in and going out at Jerusalem.

29 And he spake boldly in the name of the Lord Jesus, and disputed against the Grecians: but they went about to slay him.

VERSION #2:

Acts 22:6-16

6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.

7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutest (sic) thou me?

8 And I answered, Who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecutest (sic).

9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

10 And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.

11 And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus.

12 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt [there],

13 Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.

14 And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest (sic) know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest (sic) hear the voice of his mouth.

15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.

16 And now why tarriest (sic) thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

VERSION #3:

Acts 26:12-18

12 � Whereupon as I went to Damascus with authority and commission from the chief priests,

13 At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me.

14 And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, Saul, Saul, why persecutest (sic) thou me? [it is] hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

15 And I said, Who art thou, Lord? And he said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest (sic).

16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;

17 Delivering thee from the people, and [from] the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee,

18 To open their eyes, [and] to turn [them] from darkness to light, and [from] the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.

VERSION #4:

Galatians 1:17-22

17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.

18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.

19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother.

20 Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not.

21 Afterwards I came into the regions of Syria and Cilicia;

22 And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ:

CONTRADICTIONS: CLASSIC CASE OF DECEPTION:

Not remembering what you told someone else or embellishing for sensational value

QUESTIONS:

1.

Act 9:7

7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

QUESTION #1: Who traveled with an aristocratic Pharisee persecuting Christians? A Christian or a Pharisaic entourage and body guard(s)?

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2.

Acts 9:8-9

8 And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought [him] into Damascus.

9 And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink.

QUESTION #2: Were his eyes open after "seeing the vision?" Then why did he claim to be without sight for three days. More evidence of a fraud!

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Acts 26:11

11 And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus.
QUESTION #3: Were his eyes opened or couldn�t he see for the glory of the light? Can�t keep his story straight, �...his eyes were opened...� or �...he was three days without sight...�

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3.

Acts 9:10-18

10 � And there was a certain disciple at Damascus, named Ananias; and to him said the Lord in a vision, Ananias. And he said, Behold, I [am here], Lord.

11 And the Lord [said] unto him, Arise, and go into the street which is called Straight, and enquire (sic) in the house of Judas for [one] called Saul, of Tarsus: for, behold, he prayeth,

12 And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting [his] hand on him, that he might receive his sight.

13 Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem:

14 And here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind all that call on thy name.

15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

16 For I will shew (sic) him how great things he must suffer for my name's sake.

17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, [even] Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest (sic), hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.

18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.

QUESTION #4:Was this the Ananias who in Acts 5:5 and Acts 5:10, together with his wife, lied to the Apostles and the Holy Ghost so he �gave up the ghost.� Ananias was miraculously risen from the dead and absolved of his sin just to perform this baptism! Further proof Saul of Tarsus was not who he claimed to be. What authority did the late Ananias have to baptize anyone?

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4.

Acts 9:23-24

23� And after that many days were fulfilled, the Jews took counsel to kill him:

24 But their laying await was known of Saul. And they watched the gates day and night to kill him.

QUESTION: Might this not have been part of the plot to deflect doubt and criticism and give Saul of Tarsus credibility? A very common practice in undercover work!

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5.

Acts 9:27

27 But Barnabas took him, and brought [him] to the apostles, and declared unto them how he had seen the Lord in the way, and that he had spoken to him, and how he had preached boldly at Damascus in the name of Jesus.

Who was Barnabas? What was his credentials?

QUESTION: Was he part of the conspiracy?

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6.

Acts 22:13

13 Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him.

QUESTION: Does it take God an hour to heal someone?

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7.

Acts 9:12

12 And hath seen in a vision a man named Ananias coming in, and putting [his] hand on him, that he might receive his sight.

QUESTION: What authority did Ananias have to heal let alone baptize anyone?

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CONTRADICTIONS:

1.

Acts 5:3-5

3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back [part] of the price of the land?

4 Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

5 And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Acts 22:12

12 And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt [there],

CONTRADICTION: How many members of Christ's Church were there?

Was Ananias a common name like John or uncommon?

What was the probability out of a few hundred members, you would have two people with the name Ananias?

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2.

Acts 9:8-9

8 And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought [him] into Damascus.

9 And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Acts 22:11

11 And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus.

CONTRADICTION: Were Saul's eyes open after the "vision" or was "without sight for 3 days?

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3.

Acts 9:7

7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Acts 22:9

9 And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me.

CONTRADICTION: In one version Saul's Pharisaic entourage hears a voice and in the other version, they don't hear a voice! Which is it?

CONTRADICTION: In one version, they say they saw a "light" but in the other version, Saul doesn't even mention it.

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4.

Acts 9:3-29

3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why and

Acts 22:6-16

6 And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me.

7 And I fell unto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Acts 26:14

14 And when we were all fallen to the earth,....

In one version, Saul falls to the ground yet in other version, everybody falls to the ground. Saul can't keep from embellishing an already lie!

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5.

Acts 9:15

15 But the Lord said unto him, Go thy way: for he is a chosen vessel unto me, to bear my name before the Gentiles, and kings, and the children of Israel:

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Acts 22:10

10 And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.

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6.

Acts 22:10

10 And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Acts 26:16

16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;

CONTRADICTION:In one version, Saul says he is told to go to Damascus and he will be "told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do." However, in another version, Saul says Christ tells him what he's to do!

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7.

Acts 22:10

10 And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise,
and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Galatians 1:17-22

17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.

CONTRADICTION: In on version, Saul is told to go to Damascus and in another version, he goes to Arabia then Damascus.

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7.

Acts 9:19-20

19 And when he had received meat, he was strengthened. Then was
Saul certain days with the disciples which were at Damascus.

20 And straightway he preached Christ in the synagogues, that he is the Son of God.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Galatians 1:17-18

17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.

18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days.

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9.

Acts 9:3-5

3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:

4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest (sic) thou me?

5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest (sic): [it is] hard for thee to kick against the pricks.

Saul was not an Apostle or a prophet. God said,

�I will do nothing except I reveal my secrets to my servants the prophets.�

But the Saulists want true Christians to believe Christ's bonafide ordained Apostles knew nothing of the supposed "vision/conversion" of Saul and even after the so-called "vision" Christ to an unclean murderer, Jesus Christ supposedly refused to advise His duly ordained Servants making God out to be a liar. Did God lie or was Saul of Tarsus lying and defrauding the people to, as he was commissioned by the Sanhedrin, undermine the "cult" Christianity as man does today?

RHETORICAL QUESTIONS TO PONDER AND ANSWER FOR YOURSELF:

#1: Hearing a voice verse not hearing a voice

Acts 9:7
"...hearing a voice, but seeing no man."

Acts 22:9
saw light but heard no voice

#2: Sight

Acts 9:9
Without sight for three days

Acts 9:8
8 And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought [him] into Damascus.

#3: Falling

Acts 9:4
4 And he fell to the earth,...

When Saul fell...

Acts 22:7
7 And I fell unto the ground,...

When Saul fell...

Acts 26:14
14 And when we were all fallen to the earth,...."

When they all fell

#4 Did Saul go to Damascus or Arabia first

Acts 9:8
They led him by the hand into Damascus

Galatians 1:17

17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem...but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus.

In one version, his Pharisaic body guard and entourage led Saul to Damascus and in another version he goes to Arabia first!

#5: Saul to receive instructions what to do then he doesn't wait for instructions

Acts 22:10
10 And I said, What shall I do, Lord? And the Lord said unto me, Arise, and go into Damascus; and there it shall be told thee of all things which are appointed for thee to do.

Acts 26:16
16 But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee;

These are but a few of the gross contradictions to be found. God nor His servants, do not contradict themselves. I encourage all the study and post their own observations of the antichrist's lies and contradictions!

David R.W. Wadsworth
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