Re: CHOSEN VESSEL -- SAUL OF TARSUS, THE ANTICHRIST

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Date Posted: 11:28:10 08/24/02 Sat
Author: Julian
Subject: Re: CHOSEN VESSEL
In reply to: DAVID HEATH 's message, "CHOSEN VESSEL" on 20:26:11 04/12/02 Fri

(The first story of Paul doesn't match the second one)

the first story:
(Paul with the lord)

{And in his journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round him a light from heaven: And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him:
SAUL (means Paul) WHY YOU PERSECUTES ME?

Paul said, who art you, Lord? And the Lord said, I AM JESUS WHOM YOU PERSECUTES: IT IS HARD FOR YOU TO KICK AGAINST THE PRICKS.
And he trembling and astonished said, Lord what will you have me to do? And the Lord said unto him,

ARISE AND GO INTO THE CITY, AND IT SHALL BE TOLD YOU WHAT YOU MUST DO.

And the men that journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man, and Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were open, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought him into Damascus. And he was three days without sight, and neither did eat nor drink.
Act 9: 3 to 9}.

(The second story of Paul)

(Paul with the Lord)

At midday, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shinning round about them and, me, which journeyed with me. And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto me, and saying in the Hebrew tongue, SAUL, SAUL, �means Paul, Paul� WHY PERSECUTE YOU ME? IT IS HARD FOR YOU TO KICK AGAINST THE PRICKS. And I said, who art you, Lord? And he said, I AM JESUS WHOM YOU PERSECUTE. BUT RISE, AND STAND UPON YOUR FEET FOR I HAVE APPEARED UNTO YOU FOR THIS PURPOSE. TO MAKE YOU A MINISTER AND A WITNESS BOTH OF THESES THINGS WHICH YOU HAS SEEN, AND OF THOSE THINGS IN THAT WHICH I WILL APPEAR UNTO YOU DELIVERING YOU FROM THE PEOPLE, AND FROM THE GENTILES, UNTO WHOM NOW I SEND YOU. TO OPEN THEIR EYES, AND TO TURN THEM FROM DARKNESS TO LIGHT, AND FROM THE POWER OF SATAN UNTO GOD. THAT THEY �MAY RECEIVE FORGIVENESS OF SINS�, AND INHERITANCE AMONG THEM �WHICH ARE SANCTIFIED BY FAITH� THAT IS IN ME. Acts 26: 13 to 18}.

The conclusion of Paul�s stories with the lord Jesus

Paul�s first story in (Acts 9: 3 to 9) does not match with (Acts 26: 13 to 16).
As Paul said in his first story: the lord did tell him only about (persecuting the lord Jesus. Then he said to him, ARISE AND GO INTO THE CITY, AND IT SHALL BE TOLD YOU WHAT YOU MUST DO).

So the lord did not tell (Saul) Paul in this scripture for what he supposes to do as a minister, the Lord told him to go to the city for someone would tell him what he supposes to do.

But Paul CAHNGED THE VERSION OF THE EVENT in his second story he said that the lord told him to preach the gospel AND TO TURN THEM FROM DARKNESS TO LIGHT, AND FROM THE POWER OF SATAN UNTO GOD. THAT THEY (MAY RECEIVE FORGIVENESS OF SINS), AND INHERITANCE AMONG THEM (WHICH ARE SANCTIFIED BY FAITH) THAT IS IN ME. Acts 26: 13 to 18}.

Paul believed that God�s law must be abolished, he said (by faith man is sanctified but not with his works). Also he claims that the faith (is in him). He said, WHICH IS SANCTIFIED BY FAITH THAT is in me.

The sanctification is by the blood of the lamb, but not by the faith that is in Paul.
Well, Jesus told us all about salvation, I do not think Jesus forgot to tell us about the faith. All what Jesus said is to love all the peoples including the enemies, and to keep the laws and the Commandments.

***********************
David Heath Wrote

>When Saul was on the road to Damacus and Jesus
>appeared unto him and said
> { ACTS 9:4-6 }
>SAUL, SAUL, WHY PERSECUTEST THOU ME? And he {Saul}
>said Who art thou LORD? And the LORD said, I AM JESUS
>WHOM THOU PERSECUTEST: IT IS HARD FOR THEE TO KICK
>AGAINST THE PRICKS. and he {Saul} trembling and
>astonished said, LORD, what wilt thou have me to do?
>And the LORD said unto him, ARISE AND GO INTO THE
>CITY, AND IT SHALL BE TOLD THEE WHAT THOU MUST DO.
>
>While Saul was in the city, the LORD appeared unto
>Ananias
> { ACTS 9:11-14 }
>And the LORD said unto him {Ananias}, ARISE, AND GO
>INTO THE STREET WHICH IS CALLED STRAIGHT, AND INQUIRE
>IN THE HOUSE OF JUDAS FOR ONE CALLED SAUL, OF TARSUS:
>FOR, BEHOLD, HE PRAYETH, AND HATH SEEN IN A VISION A
>MAN NAMED ANANIAS COMING IN, AND PUTTING HIS HAND ON
>HIM, THAT HE MIGHT RECEIVE HIS SIGHT. Then Ananias
>answered, LORD, I have heard by many of this man, how
>much evil he hath done to thy saints at Jerusalem: and
>here he hath authority from the chief priests to bind
>all that call on thy name.
>
>YES Ananias was afraid, YES Ananias questioned GOD,
>BUT was GOD wrong? NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
>What did GOD say to Ananias?
> {ACTS 9:15-16}
>But the LORD said unto him, GO THY WAY: FOR HE IS A
>CHOSEN VESSEL UNTO ME, TO BEAR MY NAME BEFORE THE
>GENTILES, AND THE KINGS, AND THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL:
>FOR I WILL SHOW HIM HOW GREAT THINGS HE MUST SUFFER
>FOR MY NAME'S SAKE.
>
>GOD choose Saul to do exactly what what he wanted Saul
>to do PREACH THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST, INFILLING OF
>THE HOLY GHOST WITH EVIDENCE OF SPEAKING IN OTHER
>TONGUES, AND BAPTISM IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST. READ
>ACTS 19:2-6

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