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Date Posted: 23:54:07 11/30/03 Sun
Author: Chris
Subject: Re: Hood scoops for the 2004 Pontiac GTO
In reply to: RAMairGTO72 's message, "Re: Hood scoops for the 2004 Pontiac GTO" on 05:04:32 11/21/03 Fri

Stop your whining you old hack, you have no true argument other than the fact that you're clinging to the old ways when Chevy and Pontiac used much funds to make two different engines but kept similar performance numbers. It makes no sense for two GM companies to make and/or use completely different engines. GM always has a sister car to every one of its models other than the Corvette and those cars are assembled in the same plants to minimize cost. So instead of bitching about how NEW and REVOLUTIONARY the 2004 GTO is why don't you go dry hump your classic until you forget this is the 21st century and not the 1970s.

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Re: Hood scoops for the 2004 Pontiac GTO -- RAMairGTO72, 07:44:06 01/25/04 Sun

Hey Chris whast wrong did you order that POS? guess what i'm 30, and from what you wrote you sound 19! The GTO was born in 64, it was made to do battle with everyone, even the GM cars, if you did know anything you would know that even today Chevy and Pontiac are allways trying one up the other in the muck of the company. At one time GM got sued for putting an Olds sticker on an air cleaner of a Chevy engine, in an Olds. People are brand loyal, and when you bought a Pontiac GTO you got a pontiac engine, and engine that had more Net HP then a SBC in most of the 60s and into the 70s, infact the Pontiac T/A was the fastest car you could buy in the late 70s in GM out side the vette that was only 1 second quicker. Chevy didnt have a car besides the vette that could run with a Pontiac engine.

And i guess i'm holding on to old ways, and a hell of alot of other people are. 1979 was the last time they cast a Pontiac engine, 3 months ago they started casting Alm. Block pontiacs, not a chevy, a pontiac block, and the New castings of the Iron blocks have been out since 1996, and since 1990 5 new alum. heads have been cast, in Jan 03 they came out with yet another Alm head.

Your problem is that you have never been part of anything, your a class punk that jumps on the band wagon of whos winning at the time. The new GTO is and has nothing that the creator of orignal GTO had in mind for it. Its over priced, its lacking style, the first run had single exaust, and not one place on that car is the word PONTIAC, and its not even build in the US! its a dam import.

You are a cookie cutter lover, you could have 100 cars in a row that look different, and love it or hate the looks, but you dont care that they all have the same engine.

ITS A CHEVY ENGINE IT WAS MADE FOR A CHEVY WHEN YOU ASK WHAT KINDA ENGINE IT IS, THEY SAY ITS A CHEVY.

You are a want to be car guy,You would get you lily but kicked at a local track or cruz, your they guy who brags about your car, but has never done any work on it "store bought HP" And if you knew anything you would know that a true car guy spends good money on good stuff, and he/she doesnt put the cheapest part or engine in a car.

Yes GM did what they did with the engines because they might have gone under if they didnt. The new GTO is only a way for GM to make some money off a car that died along time ago, and alot of people are not happy about it, just goto any pontiac web-page. And i just may dry hump my car, cuz she is one fine car with less then 5,000 of them made in 72 my car will allways be better then and new GTO or bu that fact better then any GTO with a chevy engine in it of any year.

Oh yea, my car uses 2004 computer Tec in it, with more CNC parts you will find on any new car,and i have State of the art DFI . I'm paying less insurance, i can work on my car with no trick GM dealer tools, give or take a few O2 and 1/4 sensor sockets. Also my car can be made to go faster then that new chevy GTO could ever go.

So Dick you can remove your foot form your mouth at any time....See you on the streets in your new car, Oh to bad, your going to have to work 2 jobs to afford insurance and car payments, and with no money to buy "fast parts" you will never make it to the streets, but incase you do, jump on 79 north in PA, that will take you to Erie PA, i cruz State Street look for the Green 1972 GTO, JACKASS

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Hood scoops for the 2004 Pontiac GTO -- MARCUS, 22:29:57 12/05/04 Sun

NOW LETS BE NICE, FIRST OF ALL YOUR RIGHT OLD GTO'S WILL ALWAYS BE COOLER THAN NEW GTO'S, BUT DONT GET TOO WRAPPED AROUND THE AXLE ABOUT CHEVY AND PONTIAC ENGINE DIFFERENCES, DO YOU KNOW THE ACTUAL DISPLACEMENT OF A BIG BLOCK 400? HOW ABOUT 396CI, SOUND FAMILLIAR? HOW ABOUT THE BOLT PATTERN FOR THE BELL HOUSEING? WHAT KIND OF TRANNY DOES THAT GTO HAVE? OOPS! GM. IN TRUTH THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE IN PONTIAC VS. GM IS THE CYLENDER HEADS AND INTAKE MANIFOLD, ALL OTHE DIFFERENCES ARE VERY SUBTLE AND INSIGNIFFICANT WHEN IT COMES TO PERFORMANCE. THE NEW GTO IS A GREAT CAR. AND I'M SURE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WHO DIDNT KNOW HOW TO TURN A WRENCH BOUGHT A GTO NEW IN THE 60'S AND 70'S. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH SOMBODY BUYING A NEW CAR IF THEY CAN AFFORD IT. SOMEBODY BOUGHT YOUR GTO NEW, OTHERWISE IT WOULDNT EXIST. I'M JUST CURIOUS HAVE YOU BAD MOUTHED EVERY PONTIAC BUILT FOR SAY....THE LAST 15 YEARS? IF YOU HAVE WHAT KIND OF PONTIAC MAN ARE YOU? THE CARS OF THE 60'S AND 70'S ARE NEVER GOING TO BE BUILT AGAIN, IF AUTO MANUFACTURES ARE STILL WILLING TO BUILD FAST CARS WE NEED TO BE HAPPY ABOUT IT, BECAUSE IT WONT LAST MUCH LONGER. BY THE WAY MY DAD OWNS A 1970 GTO (WHICH I LOVE) ITS THE YEAR I WAS BORN, AND I TEST DROVE A NEW 2004 MODEL A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO,I STILL CAN'T AFFORD ONE BUT IS WAS A REALLY NICE FAST CAR. AND IT IS CURRENTLY THE FASTEST PRODUCTION GTO EVER BUILT. NEXT YEAR IT WILL BE FASTER AND THEIR ADDING HOOD SCOOPS AND A JUDGE PACKAGE! I KNOW THIS PISSES YOU OFF, BUT GET OVER IT, GM IS NOT GOING TO INVENT TIME TRAVEL JUST SO YOU CAN LIVE IN THE PAST.