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Date Posted: 14:23:32 04/24/02 Wed
Author: FrazLS1
Subject: Re: A few Facts
In reply to: Jim Tracy 's message, "Re: A few Facts" on 00:16:52 04/17/02 Wed

>>Aussie, with all due respect, I grew up in the era of
>the GTO and when you were on the road at a stop light
>and a GTO came rolling up beside you the first thing
>you noticed was the styling that set it apart from
>every other muscle car of that era. It looked like an
>animal ready to attack. The next thing you noticed
>was the gutteral sound of the engine even at idle.
>The next thing you noticed was the apprehension you
>felt at being next to the beast before the light
>changed. As the light changed you felt an
>exhilaration as the combination of beauty, sound and
>power left you and all the other drivers at the stop
>light in it's tail lights. Based on what I've seen of
>the Monaro on various sites unless GM does a major
>overhaul from a styling standpoint this will be just a
>case where GM has found a low cost platform that will
>enable it to slap a GTO label on and sell 20 to 30,000
>cars for one year. The people like me who never owned
>one but always wanted to will see this as an easy way
>for GM to make a quick buck and again tarnish the name
>of a great car like they did in the early 1970s. I
>would love to see the GTO come back and now that I can
>afford one, I would surely buy one if GM comes out
>with the real thing.

Theres already quite a few Monaros and factory holden GTS coupes that are sporting the usual modifications around sydney area and sound like caged animal so my gf says. I'll step on people to have my deposit in first for the GTO. Keep going on about your ethics of GTOs by time you have it figured out aussie know about real cars they will be powered by a fuel cell :)

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Re: A few Facts -- Wait and see, 15:47:25 05/31/02 Fri

...if GM comes out with the "Real Thing" ... Interesting concept.
What was the "Real Thing" that made a GTO. Seams like back in '64 someone took a tempest coupe, and under the table slid a freakin big old V8 engine into it and made history. There was no GTO style (it was a tempest with a badge) what there was was raw power, V8, rwd, manual trans avail, in a contemporary coupe.
Flash forward a few decades ... GM has now found a "new" idea ... Take the best contemporary coupe you can find, and slam in a big old North American V8 engine, to give you raw power, RWD, manual trans avail, in a coupe. Pretty close to the original idea.
What isn't like the old days is this car will reportedly outhandle and outbrake anything from the past ... and with the LS1 engine it will probably outrun em in a staight away too.
As far as who takes credit (or blame) for the car ... lets see ... North American Engine, Australian engineering, based off an Opel architecture ...Sounds like everybody plays here.
And for all the "american" made snobs .... those F-bodies start their lives now-a-days in the land of the great white north, labbats, and hockey (as do a fair share of LS1 engines).

If you can't see the facts ... you may lived in the time of the origanl GTO, but it doesn't sound like you "Grew Up" much at all.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Re: A few Facts -- JoeMustang, 10:00:30 01/07/04 Wed

Concerned about buying American. Stick with the Mustang, they're built in Michigan and they still look like a Mustang (not a Cavalier)