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Date Posted: 12:08:58 11/14/02 Thu
Author: Matthew Burns
Subject: Re: Camaro and Firebird gone be glad to have the new GTO
In reply to: GM Sucks 's message, "Re: Camaro and Firebird gone be glad to have the new GTO" on 16:02:57 11/12/02 Tue

yeah, f-bods are too heavy, but they arent all that slow.

and yes, i have seen some slow puss-tangs, (and some mighty fast ones too).

the point is: a car is nice, a fast car is better.

i have a 79 firebird with a 301.... 4000 lbs, 3 inch stroke, 3.08s and a low stall converter doesn't exactly make for a ball of fire. but it sure as hell could be fast if it had a real motor in it.

so, what? are you a mustang/ford guy or what. bashing f-bodies on a site called "c6 FIREBIRD" screams ill thought out to me.

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Re: Camaro and Firebird gone be glad to have the new GTO -- Arrrrgh, 07:06:12 11/19/02 Tue

>It's a good thing too because F-bodies were sucky cars
>anyway. Too heavy, too slow etc. GM failed to innovate
>for so long the cars had to be ousted. And no,
>Mustangs aren't slow. And what about the new Ford GT
>40?

All I can say is the US is missing out big time, since Ford Australia has stepped up to Holden with it's new BA Falcon range, and has started up is Performance arm again (Tickford put together the tweaked Falcons XR6 & XR8 designs, now they do the Mustung right hand drive re-engineering).

This is the specs for the new Ford Perfance Vehicles (FPV) the new HSV equivelent for Ford. And its in both the GT & GT-P models & the ute.
Engine Type Boss 290 - High Performance 5.4L DOHC V8 4V
Max. Power 290kW@5,500rpm
Max. Torque 520Nm@4,500rpm

This is only the start of a new power war in Australia.
Ford vs Holden comparison.
Standard 6 - Ford (Staright6) 182kW(up 30+) & 380Nm, Holden(V6) 152kW & 305Nm.
Mod 6 - Ford (Turbo 6 in XR6) 240kW, Holden (Supercharged 6) 171kW
Std V8 - Ford 220kW & 470Nm, Holden 235kW & 465Nm
Perf V8 - Ford (XR8) 260kW & 500Nm, FPV-(TS-250) 250kW & 500Nm, Holden(HSV) 260kW & 475Nm.
Top V8 - FPV (GT/GT-P) 290kW & 520Nm, HSV (GTSmodels) 300kW & 510Nm.

And there there is that HRT427 that has gone well over the top if it gets a commercial buid run. (The last power war ended when Ford started getting stupid, only now both have gone past those levels of around 30 years ago)

Note these are the new Falcon range specs Holden has yet to come out with their new engines only a body update really occured with the new VY serries, but they are bound to boost the power of the supercharged V6 and maybe the V6 as well to meet Ford.

Australia is the only country that is making low volume large RWD cars so don't be surprised if you see more of them since GM has now dropped large RWD family cars, and most US Fords are now FWD.

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[> [> [> Re: Camaro and Firebird gone be glad to have the new GTO -- ASEtech, 04:42:25 03/30/03 Sun

Last I checked Commodore was 1 in sales, how is that low volume??? How do you explain the BOSS 290 powered Falcon GTP barley being competitive with the Clubsport even? The HRT 427 has gone to limited production..... FORD will always follow holden, why give a company loyalty when they cut their V8 program? Holden has built the only australian V8 engine and won bathurst with it many times against the american imported trans am syle engines.

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[> [> [> [> Re: Camaro and Firebird gone be glad to have the new GTO -- I HATE HOLDENS!!!!!!, 05:28:16 09/20/03 Sat

FUK U HOLDEN FANS. FORDS ARE WAY BETTER IN FACT IM WEARING A FORD RACING T-shirt RIGHT NOW. FORDS ARE WAY BETTER LOOKING AND IN performance holden just does not compare I JUST WANNA SAY 1 THING: "FUK U HOLDEN AND UR WANKER FRENDS" ford is gonna win the AUSTRALIAN V* CHAMPIONSHIP and BATHURST.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: Camaro and Firebird gone be glad to have the new GTO -- steven, 23:19:07 11/13/03 Thu

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