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Date Posted: 19:52:42 03/13/11 Sun
Author: George
Subject: Re: Already determined the outcome?
In reply to: Lois 's message, "Re: Already determined the outcome?" on 17:20:10 03/13/11 Sun

>> >>href="http://www.cofchrist.org/usaconf/journey.asp">ht
>t
>>p://www.cofchrist.org/usaconf/journey.asp
>>Journeying Toward a USA National Conference
>>BY THE USA APOSTOLIC TEAM
>>
>>Q: Has church leadership already determined the
>>outcome on issues of same-gender marriage and
>>ordaining people in same-gender relationships?
>>
>>A: No, church leadership is committed to discernment
>>leading to the USA National Conference. This process
>>will include spiritual practices, dialogue, scripture
>>reflection, and study of credible resources that
>>provide multiple perspectives on human sexuality and
>>healthy, faithful, and committed relationships.
>>--------
>>
>>I don't believe that. Does anybody reading this
>>believe that?
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>
> >href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gail_E._Mengel">http
>://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gail_E._Mengel
>
>Gail E. Mengel was an apostle and member of the
>Council of Twelve Apostles of the Community of Christ
>from 1998 to 2005
>
> >href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Women_United"
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Women_United
>
>Gail E. Mengel, president from 2004 to 2008 [of
>Church Women United]
>
> >href="http://www.episcopalchurch.org/8020_61662_ENG_HTM
>.htm">http://www.episcopalchurch.org/8020_61662_ENG_HTM
>.htm
>
>Gender & Sexuality
>
>The Episcopal Church acknowledges that the issues
>surrounding human sexuality, especially homosexuality,
>are complicated and unresolved. The following
>groups are united by gender or issues surrounding
>lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT)
>people.
>
>[one of those groups] Church Women United
>
>This racially, culturally, theologically inclusive
>Christian women�s movement, celebrates unity in
>diversity and working for a world of peace and
>justice. Founded in 1941, Church Women United (CWU) is
>a movement representing 25 million Protestant, Roman
>Catholic, Orthodox and other Christian women and
>recognized as a non-governmental organization by the
>United Nations.
>------
>
>submitted by Lois

I know what you mean, Lois. Why give any credence to the suggestion that the leadership is very delicately approaching the matter of including homosexuals and lesbians in the church, when it started an all out, aggressive (though secret) campaign to recruit both them and those whose sympathies toward them exceed the definition of bias to church posts twenty years ago.

The die was cast when the leadership decided to recruit homosexuals to decide if homosexuals should be recruited. That's the kind of logic that the leadership pretends to exhibit.

I guess when its time to include pedophiles in the life of the church, we will find that some have been serving in the governing boards for twenty years, and that they have been invited to participate in discussions on whether or not pedophiles should serve on the governing boards of the church.

I'm starting to believe what Glenn said about liberalism being a form of insanity. If the liberals believe what they say, they are crazy. If they don't believe it, but think we believe what they say, then they think we are crazy. That's why dialogue is impossible. How does one have any dialogue with entities who give every indication that they think one has the intelligence of a retarded dachshund?

George

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