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Date Posted: 20:05:29 11/22/11 Tue
Author: George
Subject: Re: Agape Meals and Shacking Up Ceremonies
In reply to: Lois 's message, "Re: Agape Meals and Shacking Up Ceremonies" on 10:04:56 11/22/11 Tue

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>>>
>>>The Gala Newsletter November 2011
>>>Volume 22 Issue 4 page 3
>>>
>>>A Place at the Table by Charlie Robison
>>>
>>>(Report by Lois)
>>>
>>>At this point many of us know that the Community of
>>>Christ is in no way the body of Christ. In the past
>>>they have mocked marriage ceremonies, �uniting and
>>>blessing� same sex relationships. One poster
>>>accurately dubbed those �shacking up ceremonies�.
>>>
>>>Now they have �an Agape meal� rather than the Lord�s
>>>sacrament. Here is how it came about. An openly
>>>bisexual �evangelist� planned the service. He wanted
>a
>>>certain LGBT person to serve the bread. But, oh no, a
>>>problem, this person is not a priesthood member. So,
>>>with the assistance and permission of Apostle Ron
>>>Harmon, they served the bread and wine and called it
>>>an Agape meal.
>>>
>>>Of course we have all heard of Agape meals. In my
>>>opinion an agape meal should not be bread and wine.
>It
>>>should be a potluck with everyone�s signature dish.
>>>
>>>Submitted by Lois
>>>
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>>>February 2011
>>>Volume 22 Issue 1
>>>page 6-7 (Bisexual "evangelist")
>>
>>Well, Lois, Matt and John say that every complaint I
>>have about the church is sexual.
>>
>>I have so many problems with the above post, that I
>>don't know where to begin.
>>
>>For starters, how can anyone be "openly" bisexual.
>>Sexual behavior is just that -- behavior. You may be
>>very surprised to learn that most bisexual men are
>>known as bisexual only by their male partners. Their
>>female partners do not know of their bisexuality,
>>because 99.9% of all women, even those who approve of
>>homosexuality, are unwilling to sleep with a man who
>>is having sex with anybody else -- especially with
>>another man. It's o.k. for men to sleep with other men
>>-- just not for her man to do it. A man who is
>>"openly" bisexual is, for all practical purposes,
>>homosexual, because almost no woman is going to help
>>him practice bisexuality. The term for this is "on the
>>down low," I guess because it's low down.
>>
>>Having an unordained homosexual serving the sacraments
>>for the Lord's supper -- for no other reason than to
>>celebrate the fact that homosexuality has taken over
>>the church -- is like antiSemites insisting that pork
>>be served at the Seder. Many who would accurately
>>identify the latter act as a hate crime against Jews
>>can't fathom why Christians would be upset about the
>>former act. That's because they have been educated to
>>believe that Christians who have any scruples
>>whatsoever are "not real Christians."
>>
>>Many remember that after the defeat of France in WWII,
>>Der Fuehrere hauled out the same railroad car in which
>>the Germans had surrendered to the French 23 years
>>before, and made them sign a surrender to the Germans.
>>This was to rub the noses of the French people in the
>>fact of their ignominious defeat. Going out of the
>>way to have an avowed homsexual serve the Lord's
>>Supper is pretty much the same thing. It's a
>>celebration of the defeat of orthodoxy and decency.
>>And like hauling out the same railroad car, it
>>has to be done in the same church (not a newly
>>orgnnized one) to make the celebration complete.
>>
>>I think the desire to deliberately have someone who
>>admittedly practices bisexuality to serve the Lord's
>>supper, and then settling for calling it an "Agape
>>meal" is getting eros mixed up with agape. Surely all
>>the deemphasis of the Inspired Version would have led
>>the leadership to study enough Greek that it would
>>know that erotic love and agape love aren't the same
>>thing.
>>
>>But when a liberal is obsessed with introducing a
>>deviant sexual element into every church ritual, that
>>is ocnsidered normal, but anyone who complains about
>>the blatant intrusion of sexual politics into church
>>services is told that he has an unhealthy obsession
>>with sex.
>>
>>But how did the letter above get printing in the GALA
>>newsletter? There is no such thing, really, as a
>>"bisexual evangelist." Church rules prohibit anyone
>>not celibate, or not in an exclusive heterosexual
>>marriage from being in the priesthood. The dismal
>>failure of the First Presidency to take care of the
>>problem and defrock him, instead, knowingly promoting
>>him, does not change the fact that he simply cannot be
>>a priest at all.
>>
>>It is amazing that any dissent in the church is very
>>strictly prosecuted under church laws with no
>>exceptions to the rules, but any heresy or sexual
>>misconduct supported by the First Presidency gets a
>>free pass. That's why congregations who have knowingly
>>ordained homosexuals haven't been locked out of their
>>buildings.
>>
>>That's not justice. And its not "What Jesus Would Do."
>>
>>George
>
>George,
>
>You didn't miss the fact that there was a "apostle"
>involved in this, did you?
>
>Lois

That's why the CofC has such terrible trouble with virtually everything that St. Paul wrote. I think that despite the CofC's discomfort with the apparent lack of historical background for the Book of Mormon, the CofC prefer it over the New Testament -- for no other reason than that most of what Paul wrote is not in the Book of Mormon. Paul and the original apostles of Jesus Christ, the divine Son of God would call these men, "Those who say they are apostles, but are not, but are the minions of Satan."

A Pustule is a minion of the Devil who claims to be an Apostle.

George

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Re: Agape Meals and Shacking Up Ceremonies -- George, 20:57:08 11/22/11 Tue