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Date Posted: 18:51:31 08/25/11 Thu
Author: Lois
Subject: Re: This is what's next on the liberal agenda.
In reply to: john 's message, "Re: This is what's next on the liberal agenda." on 18:18:45 08/25/11 Thu

>>>and yet statistics show that the vast majority of
>>>pedophiles are straight... go figure...
>>>
>>>john
>>>
>>
>>Well, John, if you are still alive by the time the
>>same tactics used to convince you to buy into same sex
>>marraige get turned on you by the pedophiles, are you
>>going to bowl over as easily as you did the first
>time?
>>
>>Morality is morality, John. It can't be subdivided and
>>remodeled piece-meal.
>>
>>Acceptance of fornication leads to acceptance of
>>adultery. Acceptance of adultery leads to acceptance
>>of same-sex marriage (which, like the other two, is
>>just another nail in the coffin of Christian
>>marriage.) The only question here is whether
>>pedophiles or polygamists are going to be the next to
>>jump on the bandwagon.
>>
>>Since you are a priest of the CofC, and the CofC has
>>official ceremonies for "blessing" the sexual
>>cohabitation of unmarried couples, married (but not to
>>each other couples), and same sex couples, you are
>>already to the next fork in the road.
>>
>>Of course, when you reach it, you can always break
>>down in uncontrollable laughter.
>>
>>George

>George;
>
>the community of christ has no such ceremonies for
>sexual cohabitation of unmarried couples, nor for same
>sex couples. as a matter of fact, as joanne chapman
>has already stated, our ministers are no longer
>allowed to even perform a blessing on a same sex
>couple.
>
>lets keep with the program george...
>
>john

john,

Are you trying to tell us that at the moment they are following their own rules? Do you really expect us to believe that? Grant McMurray admitted to not following the rules in 2002. Maybe, but I don't think so, the real reason Grant McMurray had to resign was because he let the cat out of the bag. On again, off again, on again, off again.

Lois

http://www.cofchrist.org/wc2002/sermons/Grant2002.asp No longer there.

Called to Discipleship: Coming Home in Search of the Path
W. Grant McMurray 2002 World Conference Address April 7, 2002

�I am not in the habit of telling our delegates how they should vote, but I am about to make an exception. I request the delegates to this World Conference to table or refer all pending legislation on homosexuality so that we can avoid actions that will be divisive and shape a process by which a broader understanding and consensus can be built. I will ask the Standing High Council to participate with others in looking anew at this matter, seeking issues on which we can surely agree (God's love of all people, fidelity, the value of family, the sacredness of sexuality as part of creation) and shaping dialogue in areas where we do not agree (the blessing of same-sex relationships, standards for ordination, the interpretation and authority of scripture).

In the meantime, I ask the Community of Christ to be willing to live with us on the boundary for a while. To do this means that we may not have a policy that guides every decision, but we will have to trust the Holy Spirit to accompany us in our choices. It means that some parts of the church may function differently from other parts of the church and there will be distinctions that are occasionally unsettling but representative of the diversity of our body, both in terms of viewpoints and cultures. We recognize that certain national governments have requirements that our local church leaders in those nations will need to respect and interpret in accordance with their own cultural understandings.

Because of these many differences, our church stands in the midst of much ambiguity and inconsistency. We have a twenty-year-old statement from the Standing High Council that serves as official guidance, but has not been universally adhered to throughout the church. I will be totally honest and acknowledge that I have myself participated in situations where its provisions were not honored. I have been present in conferences where persons I knew to be in long-term, committed homosexual relationships were approved for priesthood in jurisdictions where their lifestyle was known and their ministry was accepted. The conflict within me was between lawgiver and pastor. To enforce the policy would have required me to intervene and prevent the ordination of someone whose call to ministry I could not deny. This I could not do. This I will not do.�

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Re: This is what's next on the liberal agenda. -- George, 21:00:44 08/25/11 Thu