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Date Posted: 21:29:51 10/14/11 Fri
Author: john
Subject: Re: Who was the First?
In reply to: George 's message, "Re: Who was the First?" on 16:32:06 10/14/11 Fri

i think you need to go back and read over the posts again george...

john


>>George...
>>
>>there is nothing in your post for me to respond to...
>>it is all either speculation, rumour or innudendo...
>>i don't see anything that i can place my finger on as
>>a "fact"...
>>
>>john
>>
>
>John, you are the one who connected your proposition
>that the church had unknowingly ordained homosexuals
>in the past with the supposed fact that more than a
>few church officials over the last 180 years had been
>"confirmed bachelors." If there is any insinuation or
>innuendo in this, it's yours. But, then again, you
>know it is, so should I have to tell you?
>
>This is the same kind of circus that Matt used to
>enjoy setting up.
>
>All this stuff about who may or may not have been a
>closet homosexual in 1875 or whatever is just a red
>herring to distract from the real issue. The CofC
>claims that it doesn't ordain homosexuals, and then
>does. Then it lies about it later to cover it up. And
>these are the leaders who are supposed to be in charge
>of identifying "God's will for the church." They are
>such liars, could they be trusted to deliver the
>message, even if God stooped low enough to tell them
>what it was?
>
>Trying to switch the issue to whether or not the
>leadership unknowingly ordained closet
>homosexuals in the past simply throws serious doubt on
>their status as "inspired" prophets of God. Annanias
>and Sapphira could run rings around these guys.
>
>Have fun denying the fact that the CofC leadership of
>the past twenty years had knowingly ordained avowed
>homosexuals in defiance of its own church laws, and in
>secret, so that the membership won't find out.
>
>A bit of advice, though -- since W. Grant McMurray
>took the podium ten years ago and announced publicly
>that he had personally been a part of the process of
>actively ordaining avowed homosexuals to the CofC
>priesthood, you can't call this "rumor" or "innuendo"
>without making Mr. McMurray look like an idiot, or
>worse.
>
>George

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