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Date Posted: 12:50:19 10/15/11 Sat
Author: George
Subject: Re: Who was the First?
In reply to: Lois 's message, "Re: Who was the First?" on 12:27:40 10/15/11 Sat

>>>>>George...
>>>>>
>>>>>there is nothing in your post for me to respond
>>>to...
>>>>>it is all either speculation, rumour or
>>innudendo...
>>>>>i don't see anything that i can place my finger on
>>as
>>>>>a "fact"...
>>>>>
>>>>>john
>>>
>>> >>>href="http://www.galaweb.org/content/newsletters/GALA
>2
>>2
>>>1.pdf">http://www.galaweb.org/content/newsletters/GAL
>A
>>2
>>>21.pdf
>>>
>>>page 7
>>>
>>>The GALA Nominating Committee for 2011 was appointed
>>>at the January 2011 Board Retreat and is composed of
>>>three (3) Board members: Clyde Frey, Chairperson,
>>>Chuck Hewitt, and Erin Cavanaugh and two GALA
>members:
>>>**** **** and Arthur Butler.
>>>
>>> >>>href="http://www.welcomingcommunitynetwork.org/wcnnew
>s
>>2
>>>00904.pdf">http://www.welcomingcommunitynetwork.org/w
>c
>>n
>>>news200904.pdf
>>>
>>>page 1
>>>
>>>**** ****, a gay member of the Community of Christ -
>>>Walnut Creek, California congregation, reports that
>>>since it became a WCN congregation, there have been
>>>several ways it has shown support of the LGBT
>>>community.
>>>
>>> >>>href="http://www.sierrapacificmission.org/uploads/doc
>u
>>m
>>>ents/SPMC_March_newsletter.pdf">http://www.sierrapaci
>f
>>i
>>>cmission.org/uploads/documents/SPMC_March_newsletter.
>p
>>d
>>>f
>>>
>>>Volume 6, No. 2 April-May-June 2010
>>>SIERRA PACIFIC USA MISSION CENTER
>>>MISSION NEWS
>>>
>>>Page 5
>>>
>>>ORDINATIONS
>>>
>>>Walnut Creek congregation: March 21st - Judy Howe and
>>>**** **** to the office of Elder.
>>>------
>>>
>>>Submitted by Lois
>>
>>
>>I notice you didn't comment on the main point of my
>>post, Lois. Am I the only one that noticed that any
>>member of the Community of Christ priesthood, whenever
>>asked about the deliberate ordination of avowed
>>homosexuals (in direct contradiction of public
>>proclamations that this doesn't happen) always waffles
>>around and starts talking about how it isn't always
>>possible to know if an ordainee is a closet
>>homosexual. A total non sequitur, as our
>>former logician-in-residence might say.
>>
>>It is almost as if they are trained to do this. I have
>>never yet discussed this with a liberal priesthood
>>member who didn't immediately shift to this
>>nonexplanation.
>>
>>Yo noto usted no coment� sobre el punto principal de
>>mi correo, Lois. � Se nota Yo la �nica que esto?
>>Cuando que el tema surja de la ordenaci�n deliberada
>>de homosexuales declarados (en la contradicci�n
>>directa de anuncios p�blicos al contrario,) el
>>sacerdote de la Comunidad de Cristo siempre llega a
>>ser deshonesto y comienzos que habla de la dificultad
>>de saber si un candidato es en secreto homosexual. Un
>>non sequitur total, como nuestro
>>l�gico-en-residencia podr�a decir.
>>
>>Es casi como si ellos se entrenan para hacer esto. Yo
>>he nunca a�n discutido esto con un miembro liberal de
>>sacerdocio quien no cambi� inmediatamente a este
>>nonexplanation.
>>
>>George
>
>George,
>
>No, I didn't miss that point. That is the normal
>response, that they didn't know, blah blah blah. But
>my post is that sometimes we can PROVE that they DID
>know. You see, the community-not-of-Christ is so full
>of lies they don't even know what they have said or
>not said, what they have deliberately kept hidden and
>what they have inadvertantly revealed. Of course don't
>forget, they are speaking to different audiences. To
>one audience they brag about what they are actually
>doing. To another audience they "waffle and
>prevaricate". They just don't dream that the audience
>they are trying to dupe might get hold of the truth.
>
>Lois

Lois, that's why, on Nov 20th, the FCC is going to take control of the internet. Any site that posts any "inconvenient truths" will be declared a "hate site" and shut down.

Mind control doesn't work very well, unless the one doing the controlling can control all input. I saw a Spnaish language site touting the fact that the Community of Christ accepts as scripture the Bible, the Book of Mormon, and the Doctrine and Covenants. The poor guy who set it up apparently doesn't know that the leadership has been trying to throw the Restoratiion scriptures in the closet for the last 40 years. The language barrier is the problem, and the CofC has a field day with it. That's why I post many of my comments both in English and in Spanish -- to give the poor folks who have been tricked and lied to the opportunity to find out the same things that the English speaking members of the church already know.

English is the ecclesiastical language of the Community of Christ, just as Latin is the ecclesiastical language of the Roman Catholic Church. Since most of the increase in membership comes in third world countries where English is not spoken, these new converts are, in effect, buying a "pig-in-a-poke." I can't read Latin, so I really don't know most of what the Roman Catholic leadership has to say about redemption, atonement, salvation, and about the divinity of Jesus Christ. And folks in Central America and Africa may have even less of an idea as to what the Community of Christ leadership has to say on the same topics. After all, Latin American converts have seen roman Catholic priests kneeling in front of an idol of the "Queen of Heaven," but I seriously doubt many of them have witnessed a Community of Christ priest ordaining homosexuals and performing "shacking up" ceremonies.

Lois, que es por qu�, sobre el Nov 20th, el FCC va para tomar el gobierno del internet. Cualquier sitio que pega cualquier " las verdades inconvenientes" se declarar�n un "sitio de las odiadas" y cerr�.

El control sobre la mente trabaja pobremente, a menos que que el controlador controle todo el aporte. Yo vi un sitio de idioma Espa�ol predic� que la Comunidad de Cristo acepta la Biblia, el Libro de Morm�n, y la Doctrina y Pactos. El tipo pobre quien coloca lo arriba parece ser inconsciente que el liderazgo ha tratado de ocultar las escrituras del Restauraci�n en el armario para los durado 40 a�os. La barrera de idioma es el problema, y el CofC hace la la mayor�a de esta barrera. Que es por qu� Yo pego muchos de mis comentarios ambos en el Ingl�s y en Espa�ol - - para dar las gentes pobres quien se han burlada y yacidas a la oportunidad de averiguar el mismo cosas que el Ingl�s hablando miembros de la iglesia ya sabidas.

El ingl�s es el idioma ecleci�stico de la Comunidad de Cristo, as� como Latino es el idioma ecleci�stico de la Iglesia Cat�lica Romana. Desde la mayor�a del aumento en miembros entra terceros pa�ses mundiales donde Ingl�s no es hablado, estos nuevos conversos son, en el efecto, comprar un producto sin mirar a lo primero. Yo no puedo leer Latino, tan Yo realmente no s� la mayor�a de qu� el liderazgo Cat�lico Romano tenga que decir sobre de rescate, expiaci�n, salvaci�n, y sobre la divinidad de Jesucristo. Y las gentes en Centroam�rica y Africa pueden tienen igualan menos de una idea con respecto a qu� la Comunidad de liderazgo de Cristo tiene que decir sobre los mismos temas. Despu�s que todos, los conversos latinoamericanos han visto sacerdotes Cat�licos Romanos que arrodillan en la frente de un �dolo de la "Reina de Cielo," pero yo seriamente dudo que muchos de ellos hayan testificado una Comunidad de sacerdote de Cristo que ordena homosexuales y desempe�ando

George

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