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Date Posted: 20:09:53 09/07/11 Wed
Author: George
Subject: Re: General Denominational (Dis)Information
In reply to: john 's message, "Re: General Denominational (Dis)Information" on 08:09:45 09/07/11 Wed

>George says: "After all, the CofC's stated agenda,
>straight from the lips of Steve Veazey, is that Sodomy
>Is Job One."
>
>john says: care to provide some references?
>
>john
>
>
>

John, the first item on the agenda is legitimitization of homosexuality. Lois has posted the pertinent documents here time after time.

Do you not read her posts?

George
>
>
>>>>SECTION 111
>>>>This section on marriage is not a revelation. It was
>>>>prepared while the Book of Doctrine and
>>>>Covenants was being compiled and was read by W. W.
>>>>Phelps at the general assembly of August 17,
>>>>1835. It was adopted unanimously by that assembly as
>>>>part of the Book of Doctrine and Covenants. It
>>>>has been retained in every edition of the book
>>>>published by the Reorganization, and the church
>knows
>>>>no other law of marriage than that which is set
>forth
>>>>here.
>>>>
>>>>111:1a According to the custom of all civilized
>>>>nations, marriage is regulated by laws and
>>ceremonies:
>>>>111:1b therefore we believe, that all marriages in
>>>>this Church of Christ of Latter Day Saints should be
>>>>solemnized in a public meeting, or feast, prepared
>>for
>>>>that purpose:
>>>>111:1c and that the solemnization should be
>performed
>>>>by a presiding high priest, high priest,bishop,
>>elder,
>>>>or priest, not even prohibiting those persons who
>are
>>>>desirous to get married, of being married by other
>>>>authority.
>>>>111:1d We believe that it is not right to prohibit
>>>>members of this church from marrying out of the
>>>>church, if it be their determination so to do, but
>>>>such persons will be considered weak in the faith of
>>>>our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
>>>>
>>>>111:2a Marriage should be celebrated with prayer and
>>>>thanksgiving; and at the solemnization, the persons
>>to
>>>>be married, standing together, the man on the right,
>>>>and the woman on the left, shall be addressed, by
>the
>>>>person officiating, as he shall be directed by the
>>>>Holy Spirit; and if there be no legal objections, he
>>>>shall say, calling each by their names:
>>>>111:2b "You both mutually agree to be each other's
>>>>companion, husband and wife, observing the legal
>>>>rights belonging to this condition; that is, keeping
>>>>yourselves wholly for each other, and from all
>>others,
>>>>during your lives?"
>>>>111:2c And when they have answered "Yes," he shall
>>>>pronounce them "husband and wife" in the name of the
>>>>Lord Jesus Christ, and by virtue of the laws of the
>>>>country and authority vested in him:
>>>>111:2d "May God add his blessings and keep you to
>>>>fulfill your covenants from henceforth and for
>>>>ever. Amen."
>>>>
>>>>111:3 The clerk of every church should keep a record
>>>>of all marriages solemnized in his branch.
>>>>
>>>>111:4a All legal contracts of marriage made before a
>>>>person is baptized into this church, should be
>>>>held sacred and fulfilled.
>>>>
>>>>111:4b Inasmuch as this Church of Christ has been
>>>>reproached with the crime of fornication, and
>>>>polygamy: we declare that we believe that one man
>>>>should have one wife; and one woman but one husband,
>>>>except in case of death, when either is at liberty
>to
>>>>marry again.
>>>>
>>>Yes john,
>>>
>>>We know it wasn't a revelation since God had already
>>>made it very plain centuries ago. Christians simply
>>>reiterated that they believe and practice what God
>has
>>>already revealed.
>>>
>>>Lois
>>
>>I understand your remarks perfectly, Lois. John says
>>that it had become so obvious to the surrounding
>>population that Joseph Smith, Jr. and the founding 5
>>apostles were perverts that it was necessary to add a
>>section to the Restoration scriptures to convince
>>people otherwise.
>>
>>Now that the CofC is big in areas like California,
>>which have a surplus of other types of perverts, it
>>supposes that the surrounding population is not
>>concerned if it chooses to be as bad as they are.
>>After all, the CofC's stated agenda, straight from the
>>lips of Steve Veazey, is that Sodomy Is Job One.
>>
>>But it's going to have to go either way. Either the
>>CofC god is going to have to stop being so timid, and
>>come out and say that Sodom and Gomorrah are more
>>righteous than Bethelehem the day Jesus was born
>>there, or add a section stating that "in accordance
>>with the customs of all civilized countries," the CofC
>>rejects same-sex marriage. If it tries to remain on
>>the fence from an official standpoint (which in actual
>>fact, of course, it does not) both sides will get
>>bored, and just leave.
>>
>>George

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