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Date Posted: 13:14:49 08/13/11 Sat
Author: George
Subject: Re: And Another RLDS congregation bites the dust
In reply to: Lois 's message, "Re: And Another RLDS congregation bites the dust" on 10:53:51 08/13/11 Sat

>>>
>>>>
>>>>I really feel sorry for people like Lois who after
>>>>twenty plus years are still hurting and can't seem
>to
>>>>move on in their spiritual life. You are all in my
>>>>prayers.
>>>>
>>>>Joanne
>>>
>>>Joanne,
>>>
>>>Thanks. You let me know that my posts are having some
>>>impact.
>>>
>>>Lois
>>>
>>>What this all means is that the church
>>>started in 1860 by Joseph Smith, III (As the
>>>Communitarian leadership now claims it began) no
>>>longer believes that a man can be born designated by
>>>God as a prophet, and has switched to believing that
>a
>>>man can be born designated by God to be a homosexual.
>>>(George)
>>
>>How true.
>>
>>A child doesn't ask to be born. The parents are
>>responsible for that. When two women deliberately
>>choose to have a child by nonnatural means, they are
>>forcing the child to participate in a relationship
>>that they participate in voluntarily.
>>
>>Western civilization has pretty much gone insane.
>>Most nations outside the west, such as Japan, cannot
>>even believe that here, a single woman can go and get
>>herself artificially inseminated. They cannot believe
>>the degree to which antisocial behavior is promoted in
>>the U.S.
>>
>>But, never fear. After the coming collapse and the
>>ensuing Dark Ages, the Renaissance will blossom again.
>>It won't help the people who suffer a repeat of the
>>Medieval period, but evil can't triumph. It can only
>>rule the hearts and minds of those who voluntarily
>>submit to it. It's rather brutal on their bodies,
>>though.
>>
>>George
>
>Moroni Chapter 8
>
>13 But little children are alive in Christ, even from
>the foundation of the world; . . .
>
>It is truly hypocritical to gush over the artificial
>insemination of a lesbian while at the same time
>endorsing abortion for a mother's convenience. And
>please Joanne, don't insult us by claiming that you
>disagree with anything the c-not-of-c endorses.
>-------
>
> >href="http://www.religiousinstitute.org/statement/from-
>appendix-4-of-the-church-administrators-handbook">http:
>//www.religiousinstitute.org/statement/from-appendix-4-
>of-the-church-administrators-handbook
>
>from Appendix 4 of the Church Administrator's Handbook
>in
>Abortion
>Community of Christ
>Date: Thu, 03/19/1998
>
>6. We affirm that there is an inadequacy in simplistic
>answers that regard all abortions as murder, or, on
>the other hand, regard abortion only as a medical
>procedure without moral significance.
>
>7. We affirm the right of the woman to make her own
>decision regarding the continuation or termination of
>problem pregnancies. it is our recommendation that
>this decision be made with the support of family and
>in consultation with medical, ministerial, and
>professional counseling services.
>
>8. We affirm that jurisdictional leaders need to be
>cognizant of competent counseling resources and
>available women's health care services in the areas to
>which our members may be referred both during the
>process of decision and following.
>
>The church is aware that there are occasions which
>make it necessary, because of the conditions of the
>conception or pregnancy, to terminate a particular
>pregnancy. While we recognize a woman's basic
>right to self-determination, we are also committed to
>placing a high value on the preservation of life as a
>principle of moral behavior. In its teaching and
>caring ministries, the church seeks to provide
>premarital preparation and to nurture faithful
>marriage relationships. There are, however, ethical
>choices in which the church, while emphasizing basic
>Christian principles, is called to support individuals
>in exercising their free moral agency as they engage
>in responsible decision.
>-------
>
>Submitted by Lois
>

Note, Lois, the elasticity of the term "problem pregnancy." Sometimes the "problem" is that the person who is pregnant simply doesn't want anyone to know what she's been doing.

I used to work with an Egyptian colleague who was staunchly opposed to abortion. He said, "They always come at you with the standpoint that occasionally a woman may find herself in a bad position, like pregnant after rape, or with a Downs Syndrome child, but in the end, it always ends up as wholesale slaughter of any baby that is just a tad bit inconvenient."

There is a shortage of children to adopt, because the woman who isn't on crack, or otherwise diseased, can afford an abortion. So most of the babies who are killed are killed because their mother is in a socioeconomic stratum that can actually afford to raise a child. It's cheaper to put a few hundred into an abortion so that the rest of the money can go to the other trappings of the middle-class life.

Part of the plan to destroy Christianity, and subsequently, Western civilization has been the constant preaching that immorality is not only not sinful, but a desirable necessity for a happy and well-balanced life, and that anything interfering with it, such as an unwanted baby, or a prune-faced puritannical priest, has to be got rid of. The notion that every human being over the age of puberty has the right to have sex regardless of what the clergy, or their parents think is already being taught in schools. The Communitarians pretty much openly endorse this by winking at sexual immorality and trying to accomodate it as "inevitable."

But, as I said earlier, this all comes to an end when the system crashes, due to the fact that an advanced, technological society cannot exist with rampant indulgence of the ego.

Someone has to be sober enough to go to work and pay taxes to float the health insurance and the rent checks. The movie "Rise of the Planet of the Apes" is pretty prophetic of what is going to happen in the next few years. Those of us who have been taught that they need not work, educate themselves, or exercise any self-control or responsibility will riot and burn most of the place down when the welfare checks stop coming. Thanks to evolutionary teachings in school, most of us think that they are nothing more than hairless apes, entitled to do whatever they please, as apes do in the wild. What they fail to realize is that simians in the wild are primarily vegetarians, and live in the middle of what can only be described as an environmental salad. I am not sure what hairless apes in Los Vegas and Washinton, D.C. are going to eat, unless it be each other. It's always one unthinkable thing after another.

But the subversives always planned to serve the unthinkable up in small doses, so that no one would retch before becoming conditioned to it.

From Section 156 to Section 186, to Section 216, it's going to be one thing after another, twnty-five years apart -- until the roof caves in, of course.

George

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